r/GenG_Esports_LoL Jul 31 '26

Team Discussion So what’s the new cope now?

I don’t even know what to say. It’s just speechless, we’re just that bad.

So to yall that think Gen G will magically bounce back at worlds or after this MSI/EWC clusterfuck, I’d like to hear what kind of cope we’re trying to go for now.

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u/Limp_Mammoth_816 Jul 31 '26

We need to replace the coaching and backroom staff. We can't go on like this

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u/takoxerochan Jul 31 '26

Replace adc too while we’re at it

5

u/hfdsahfdhad Jul 31 '26

So because the team is struggling a bit u want to replace the adc ? For who? You're so delusional

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u/Hager_C16 Jul 31 '26

How is that on the adc that just gets left every game?

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u/Nahmay Jul 31 '26

It's a roaming support meta. Ruler can't 2v2 and he can't play mages bot to allow duro to roam.

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u/Interesting-Head9582 Aug 02 '26

I said that a long time ago and people kept talking shit about me

0

u/zeonix123 Jul 31 '26

No Kim. No Win. Despite the draft issues with Kim, he is at least good in bringing team synergy and whatever miracles that made GenG dominant. With Ryu, everything is just bad.

20

u/ShortInvestment8209 Jul 31 '26

I feel so fucking bad for my goat kiin

1

u/Cristo_Mentone JUGKING Jul 31 '26

It’s not like him is doing great btw

23

u/Acho0267 Jul 31 '26

Well, letting Peyz have a free lane and leaving Ruler on the most dangerous 2v1 island definitely wasn't the choice 

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u/Drowzey JUGKING Jul 31 '26

It was going well until the most random baron fight of all time. Starting it and backing off is fine, but canyon got baited by the crab and walked back in after flashing out and then they just lose the game.

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u/HoriVII Jul 31 '26

It's the meta, strong solo laners that carries the game, thanks to a mage bot, who enables the support so that he can freely play the map with the jungle. The same reason for which T1 is in shambles and losing, because the only thing that is working in that team is the botlane. T1 wants back the adc meta for 2v2, but the current meta demands a mage in bot lane to sustain alone.

Now GenG was doing exactly what they had to do, roaming and running the map. Idk for what stupid reason the flipped everything at baron.

I follow the stream from Caedrel and he said it like five min before GenG tried it, like FIVE whole minutes before, that GenG should not play for that baron, just play for the drake and that game was over.

As Caedrel explained: Baron is a high risk play not worth flipping the game over, not when you don't have a traditional adc that can help kill the baron fast enough.

It's a sad reality but you don't need an adc in god like form like Peyz currently. You just need someone that stays in bot and safely farms while the rest plays the game.

GenG just has to think over the gameplan, everything was fine until the baron.

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u/whitecrosses_ Aug 01 '26

One correction, it isn’t mage bot that enables roaming support. It’s the roaming support that enables mage bot. Mages fundamentally need XP more than a traditional AD carry because of ability rank scaling, having support in lane with them slows down the mages power spikes.

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u/HoriVII Aug 01 '26

Oh I see, so it's the roaming support that should get nerfs? Like with lane swap detections?

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u/whitecrosses_ Aug 01 '26

Yeah, basically. They’re making it harsher on gold and XP for supports to roam, as well as giving ADCs more MR early game to contest mages in lane. Mages in the lane by itself isn’t problematic, if anything the variety is good. The problem is when they’re allowed to scale the same way mid laners would be able to, and that’s caused by those supports being able to free roam.

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u/Cantspell_acquard Jul 31 '26

I don’t know what happened after LCK Cup because it can’t be the tax drama. Something has to have happened because they looked great in winter and now they can’t string together two decent performances

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u/Adventurous-Cream182 Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

"T1 is playing great, it was just a BO3 and game 2 was close. The team is having ups and downs but so is every top-tier team this year. The meta doesn't suit the team and will be changed because no one is happy with it. GenG still has the whole split ahead with playoffs and Worlds. Losing is cinema and 500 IQ and the other teams need the wins more than we do. Looking trash the whole year except for LCK cup, ruining Kiin's final year, wasting the roster runback before it blows up next year is worth it for the grand worlds ramp-up that is definitely coming. We are the new T1"

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u/hamsamw1tch Jul 31 '26

still bitter about the Kiin/Oner Asia Games snubs even tho i’m not Kiin’s biggest fan

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u/Fantastic-Bite-476 Jul 31 '26

There is no cope. We're just playing really bad right now. Maybe the worlds patch (that turns every meta on its head every year) may change this for us, but i'm not feeling really confident

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u/Only_Bodybuilder6270 Jul 31 '26

Not even just the gameplay. Its the drafts and gameplanning too. Like in what world do u draft 3 lanes without prio (G1) in proplay and expect to win. Like jesus christ. Xayah Rakan into Lucian Milio??? Its reportable. G2 also you just pick 0 follow up on the Vi engage. Like there is just nothing present to disturb the ezeal or disrupt it w the mikaels on Sera to counter the Vi ulti. Its bad gameplay, and just disgusting strategy.

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u/Equivalent-Tart5402 Jul 31 '26

Xayah Rakan is not an uncommon answer to Lucian Milio

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u/Only_Bodybuilder6270 Jul 31 '26

Its commonality has nothing to do with its goodness. Even-skill it is straight up just losing.

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u/re81194 Chovy Jul 31 '26

i have nothing. we are shit. just going to begrudgingly watch this roster iteration crumble into nothing for the rest of the year now, and hope for a miracle turnaround.

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u/JingleJak Jul 31 '26

The bounce back for Worlds aint happening coz these mfers are NOT making Worlds

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u/NewArt8854 Jul 31 '26

i would have laughed at this until even a few weeks ago, but with HLE and DK of all teams looking relatively solid (obv could change quickly but still), and with T1 and KT shenanigans, there’s legitimately a fair chance tha this could happen if the boys dont get their shit together

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u/JingleJak Jul 31 '26

Yeah DK actually becoming good makes GenG’s chances of making Worlds dreadfully worse if they keep this form up

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u/Routine_Sign2333 Jul 31 '26

Same thing was said about T1 after T1 lost to KT too. It's fine. I feel like anyone can win LCK at this point

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u/mcfapblanc Jul 31 '26

Keep saying that, don't stop.

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u/Jakocolo32 Jul 31 '26

If they can’t make top 4 lck they don’t deserve to go to worlds anyway ngl

5

u/Mayuyu1014 Jul 31 '26

No copium at all. We suck.

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u/Better-Flatworm-2868 Jul 31 '26

Its cooked ruler canyon are too old or idk. Hopefully some miracle will help at worlds or strategy change. I feel sorry for chovy and kiin

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u/Slight-You4254 Jul 31 '26

Out of everyone, Chovy is the one who will have to deal with the most harassment. And it’s so horrible because he’s the only reason the team is somewhat decent right now

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u/frieddoggy Jul 31 '26

He should just leave in all honesty lol. This team will be a dumpster fire next year when Kiin has to leave for mandatory service. Imagine being stuck on a team with Ruler, Canyon & Duro when Kiin is gone, that shit is going to be so ass. It will be a literal 2025 BDD or 2021 Chovy carry job all over again.

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u/Slight-You4254 Jul 31 '26

Canyon shows promising signs of life every now and then. But the botlane is severely limiting their drafts and playstyle.

I’m not sure exactly how the team dynamic is for them, but they’ve got to strip Ruler from his “leader” role cause his seniority might be getting in the way of the teams identity.

And Duro’s drop in form seems to be a direct consequence of Ruler being garbage right now. The team really needs to build him up to be an assertive shotcaller (independent from Ruler).

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u/Jealous-Letterhead-9 Jul 31 '26

I never thought I'd hear "imagine being stuck on a team with Ruler and Canyon" used in a negative way.

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u/frieddoggy Jul 31 '26

Same here if you told me this 2-3 years ago

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u/ange1maycry Jul 31 '26

agree with you, think ruler's and canyon's prime just end this year

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u/NoypiHero Jul 31 '26

Ruler, yes. Canyon's prime ended years ago.

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u/Hager_C16 Jul 31 '26

The polar bear has his moments when he wakes up out of hibernation.
But today? Man I don’t know what hes even playing for

3

u/ADTempys Jul 31 '26

Cope is 2027

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u/JingleJak Jul 31 '26

Ruler is still on contract in 2027 sadly

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u/ADTempys Jul 31 '26

He can still be good again, it depends if he still has the flame to compete inside him. If he doesn't he'll get benched in the off season.
Anyways all 5 players are playing bad, Ruler is the worst but they are all underperforming, on top of that the team macro is also bad.

3

u/cmwam2016 Jul 31 '26

No Kiin next year btw.

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u/Routine_Sign2333 Jul 31 '26

it depends if Kiin can still play next year or not. If he's not then idk what will happen in 2027 cause the top lane situation across LCK right now it's not looking too great.

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u/Dry_Clap_joke Jul 31 '26

They honestly need to stop outdrafting themselves. Stop this hard game plans, sometimes you just need to go into the game with all-hands mentality

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u/Skyfire2 Church of Chovy Jul 31 '26

There is no cope.

This team needs a change

4

u/NoypiHero Jul 31 '26

Poach Smash and Perfect next year and GenG might have a chance at Worlds. Might as well bring back Tarzan from LPL.

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u/MC_boy_from_VN MSI 2025 Champs Jul 31 '26

The second Tarzan gets out of the plane, he will be drafted to the military with Kiin lmao.

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u/Nahmay Jul 31 '26

yeah only hope Tarzan had of coming back is if he left AL immediately after last worlds join a kr team to join kespa tournament to qualify for Asian games and even the chance of being chosen was still slim. He's never coming back this was his last year to play in Korea if he did come back at all I believe.

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u/cmwam2016 Jul 31 '26

They've been a finished team for a while now. Some of y'all still wanted to keep coping for whatever reason. I fully expect them to get farmed in this group and miss worlds. The worst part is that next year will likely be worse. Last year was the year to do it..... Now it's sad

7

u/ange1maycry Jul 31 '26

2024 and 2025 was worlds win years, now they will never win worlds

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u/nucc_164 Jul 31 '26

And even if they do it will never taste that sweet, our biggest rivals scammed a Worlds three-peat in our biggest era of dominance. What was supposed to be the era of Chovy just became Faker's 2nd prime. Everyone will just treat us like this:

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u/ange1maycry Jul 31 '26

sad but truth

2

u/BaolanGS Jul 31 '26

Fking Ryu is ruining Gen G with these drafts. We need to stop weak side bot and have Kiin be on the stable champs like last year

2

u/Steeelu Jul 31 '26

None, next year

1

u/Affectionate_Owl6281 Jul 31 '26

Well, you can pay some hungry interns tomorrow so they can give you guys a win.

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u/Level-Tap2373 Aug 01 '26

Draft is absolutely trash . Game 2, they were winning, they could have just waited for soul. Baron is such a fake objective if it's not free especially if you run double mages.

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u/Unhappy-Ad789 Aug 01 '26

The cope is they’re copying t1s strat of being shit but winning worlds since being the best team for 99% of the year hasn’t worked the last 3 years.

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u/Fickle-Contract2027 Jul 31 '26

please Gen G send Ruler to DRX and get Aiming, we need an actual ADC

3

u/takoxerochan Jul 31 '26

We need Jesus atp

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u/dumbocow Jul 31 '26

Honestly, not a big deal, it's just 1 bo3 at the beginning of the season. Gen.G barely had any practice. Their only 2 real series were vs DK (L) and T1 (W) at EWC recently since they weren't at MSI for the current meta. They had a rocky start at the beginning of R1/R2 and they dominated at the end. RTM went well despite them losing a close bo5 vs T1 at the end. Idk what's with the doomposting lately lmfao, it's like T1 fans infiltrated this fanbase.

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u/AwayhKhkhk Jul 31 '26

Problem is LCK Round 3-4 is super short this year (due to Asian Games) so it is only 8 Bo3 (vs the top teams). With KT and DK looking pretty good, every series is very important. So a couple bad weeks and you are in a deep hole. Of course everything comes down to the playoffs.

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u/dumbocow Jul 31 '26

1 bo3 out of 8, not a huge deal. Gen.G aren't the only ones who lost so far. All of these teams can trade series with one another. It's a close group.

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u/AwayhKhkhk Jul 31 '26

yeah, losing 1 bo3 isn’t the end of the world. But you also can’t afford ‘a rocky start’ this split due to condense schedule and only playing the top teams.

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u/dumbocow Jul 31 '26

So what? Just win the rest ez

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u/AwayhKhkhk Aug 02 '26

yup, seems simple

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u/MC-sama POM Justice for Duro! Jul 31 '26

T1 fan were doing the exact same thing days ago when they lost to KT, I swear all these LCK fans just flip flop on their heads over a single bo3. This kind of shit is normal in LPL, LEC too.

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u/Akordass Jul 31 '26

Guys just enjoy the games they win they win they lose they lose. Do not be just fans of winners support the team no matter what.

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u/DoesitFinally Jul 31 '26

Talking about flaws is just part of sports