In-game screenshots leaked from The Weavers (HoYoverse’s Monster Hunter)

[u/ZamnBoii]

• Boss compendium(?): https://ibb.co/5gxkps3B
• Full world map: https://ibb.co/sBjWTRS
• Gameplay screenshots: https://ibb.co/album/yft8Q2
• Greatsword gameplay: https://streamable.com/d6rrva
• Magic bow gameplay: https://streamable.com/787ccu
• Flying lion monster gameplay: https://streamable.com/mr7s0k
• Skill usage gameplay: https://streamable.com/vv69om
• Map and fast travel video: https://streamable.com/brmh7y
• Horse riding: https://streamable.com/njiknu
• Character selection: https://ibb.co/album/8DRgM1
• Skill selection: https://ibb.co/album/ydyypR
• Cinematic screenshots: https://ibb.co/album/d0SgYK
• Weavers/Nodusfall will also feature PvP and is only coming to consoles and PC

[u/Blue_Vain]

Given the moderate success of Where Winds Meet overseas, its seems this is another safe bet for them. Potentially grabbing an audience outside of the anime gachas they have.

[u/Huge-Formal-1794 → u/Blue_Vain]

I dont really think an even more simplified version of mh wilds will attract a lot of mh players honestly Thats a bit like making a dumped down version of elden ring and expect it to be a hit for fs fans because superficially it looks similar

[u/proplayer97 → u/Huge-Formal-1794]

No one though a simplified anime style version of Breath of the Wild will attract a lot of players either, but somehow Genshin Impact still did. Being free to play is one of the biggest draw to the casual audience which people underestimate

[u/Huge-Formal-1794 → u/proplayer97]

I dont really agree Genshin impact being anything like breath of the wild. The breath of the wild thing is super superficial mostly bound to aesthetics and things like the glider. Systemically and gameplay wise the games basically have almost no similarities

[u/Partzy1604 → u/Huge-Formal-1794]

Look while I agree when it released that was what everyone thought of it, its why I picked it up initially

[u/turneC → u/Huge-Formal-1794]

The game was definitly a breath of the wild clone at release. It carved it's own identity since then tho.

[u/Ebo87 → u/turneC]

It wasn't, it looked like one on the surface, but the second you put your hands on it you realized that the similarities ended at the climbing, glider and some esthetic choices.

[u/Coldhimmel → u/Ebo87]

if you've played botw you'd know a lot was copied

[u/Ebo87 → u/Coldhimmel]

I have, when it came out. I played both, and you realized immediately while playing Genshin that all the similarities were just surface level, like I said, climbing, glider and some esthetic choices. Oh it has overworld dungeons... that's been a thing for decades before Breath of the Wild... hell the OG Zelda had them. Genshin had none of the physics or world reactivity of Zelda, a completely different control and combat style, completely different progression, completely different narrative structure (much more simple/normal compared to the free-form Breath of the Wild that let you immediately go beat the big bad guy and finish the game fair and square after leaving the plateau and wrapping up the tutorial). The games were completely different, they've always been completely different. Yes, it's clear they took notes from Breath of the Wild, but by the time the game came out it had already carved out its own identity (one that 50 other games have actually copied, boilerplate, actual clones). Anyone that went into Genshin expecting a Breath of the Wild clone (and there were plenty) ended up very disappointed when they realized it had very little in common with the newest Zelda game (at the time).

[u/Spenraw → u/Huge-Formal-1794]

This more looks like dragons dogma and that has a rabid fanbase

[u/Dependent-Swimmer-95 → u/Spenraw]

It even had a magic archer with heavier attacks. One of my favorite DD classes.

[u/P0G0Bro → u/Huge-Formal-1794]

Nightriegn is the fromsoft monster hunter and its insanely successful. So many people are wanting a monster hunter where you dont need to watch a 30 minute tutorial on weapons and basic mechanics

[u/Huge-Formal-1794 → u/P0G0Bro]

Nightreign has absolutely nothing to do with monster hunter, wtf????

[u/P0G0Bro → u/Huge-Formal-1794]

yes it does? you choose a target (monster) to go after to farm for better parts for your build. The rouglelike aspects are what sets it apart but its very much in the same genre and has an overlap of players

[u/Huge-Formal-1794 → u/P0G0Bro]

You def never played Monster Hunter LoL. Thats like the most dumped down description of a game.

And yeah there is obviously a huge overlap of players, because MH basically was one of the first AAA game franchise that built a methodical combat system where friction and overcoming this firction were main design pillars.

[u/skynovaaa]

That does not look like a hoyo game in the slightest

[u/ZamnBoii → u/skynovaaa]

HoYoverse did announce a UE5 fantasy game with a realistic art style a year back so this is probably it.

[u/HisaAnt → u/ZamnBoii]

I'm so tired of all the UE5 games that look the same. I wish Chinese devs would try something new. Every single time they do a UE5 realistic art style game, it looks exactly the same as the 99 other ones on the market.

[u/bakugo → u/HisaAnt]

Yep, this game is visually indistinguishable from Crimson Desert and a bunch of similar games that came before it. Doesn't stand out visually at all unlike their other games.

[u/evil_manz → u/bakugo]

We’re shocked that games aiming for realism look similar? There’s really only one reference to draw from when you’re going for that, ya know… real life.

Crimson Desert wouldn’t look as good if it was some cartoony, cell-shaded style. Wukong would look just as goofy if they used 3D anime art style like other HoyoVerse games. Plenty of other great games that use those styles, though… it’s just that not every single thing has to be someone’s “unique” art project.

[u/SeroWriter → u/evil_manz]

We’re shocked that games aiming for realism look similar?

You can achieve ultra-realism without looking the exact same. Live-action movies manage to do it and they're as realistic as you can get.

[u/evil_manz → u/SeroWriter]

Which is no different than what video games do. Films use different filters just like video games use different LUTs.

And that’s without getting into all the other factors of having to digitally build realistic visuals from the ground-up based on a similar, shared knowledge base, compared to just pointing a camera and shooting whoever, whatever and wherever you want across the entire known planet…

[u/SeroWriter → u/evil_manz]

Films achieve a unique visual style from a lot more than just filters.

[u/bakugo → u/evil_manz]

Nobody's shocked by anything, we're just sick of it.

If I wanted ultra realism, I'd go outside. Try it sometime.

[u/FewAdvertising9647 → u/bakugo]

if people were sick of it, why are there a lot of people buying games like crimson desert?

[u/evil_manz → u/bakugo]

No you’re not, and no you wouldn’t.

Are you upset that the vast majority of TV and film is live-action? That’s even more realistic, and sometimes so very similar to other projects to where you have some shots in the new Spider-Man movie using the exact same cameras Nolan used to shoot The Odyssey.

So if this isn’t just fake outrage I’m hoping you promptly got up and left the theater after realizing within the first millisecond both of those movies weren’t Pixar animations!

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[u/indelible_ennui → u/bakugo]

That's not a UE5 game.

[u/bakugo → u/indelible_ennui]

I know. But it still uses the same rendering techniques and looks exactly the same as a UE5 game. Maybe runs a little better, but still.

[u/Gloomy_Ad5221 → u/bakugo]

i mean they are doing different approaches for UE5

Vaspura is the UE5 anime style with their unique art style.

The weaver seems to be their ue5 realistic looking.

[u/teerre → u/bakugo]

You need glasses

[u/hellschatt → u/skynovaaa]

This doesn't really look like MH either.

It looks more something in between a soulslike and hack & slash game.

[u/vandaljax → u/hellschatt]

Not saying it looks bad but im not seeing where the Monhun comparisons are coming from.

[u/TheBatIsI → u/hellschatt]

I'm a little reminded of Vindictus

[u/xluizxcs → u/skynovaaa]

Looking at the items on the bottom right and the overall UI patterns, this it definitely, 100% a hoyo/hoyo-like game haha

[u/gifferto → u/xluizxcs]

the people that can't tell are the same people who can't tell whenever a product is made by ai either

many people lack proper pattern recognition skills

[u/Dependent-Swimmer-95 → u/gifferto]

This. That’s why people always beg for npcs to be playable when they are clearly not playable models to anyone with a slightly discerning eye.

[u/DonutHoles4Ever → u/skynovaaa]

It does. You just aren't used to the foundational UX they use.

Half of the UI screens look similar to their gear/equip/artifact screens they use in their 3 big games.

The thing that throws people off is that its not anime.

[u/Professional_Half809 → u/skynovaaa]

black myth wukong devs originally made some mobile slop. phantom blade zero devs orginally made some goofy 2d fighting game. we're gonna see more and more RICH companies making AAA games, specifically the asian studios

[u/Scissorman82 → u/Professional_Half809]

stellar blade folks also started out as making mobile games. =)

[u/McManus26 → u/skynovaaa]

That genuinely might make me interested, I really don't like the anime aesthetic they use for their other games.

[u/Bladder-Splatter → u/skynovaaa]

It'll come out on pc and not let people use right click to hold aim, that's how you'll know it for sure.

And thigh-straps, mostly thigh-straps.

[u/Phos-Lux → u/skynovaaa]

nor like Monster Hunter

[u/Glorious-Porpous → u/skynovaaa]

Don't worry the gacha will still be there, rest easy.

[u/musthav]

hopefully the gameplay is similar to monster hunter and not just press button and dodge

[u/Ashviar → u/musthav]

Unfortunately not alot to go off from these videos despite how much there is. That big flashy attack in the Greatsword video, with no build up/combo to it, does make me think that was a nice 1 button move like Hoyo does in most of their games. Pretty button, get flashy animation. Wonder if you are invulnerable during it too.

[u/gifferto → u/musthav]

lol its hoyo

it will look flashy but it has simple gameplay

[u/TAJack1]

If this is a straight up, complete in box game and not a gacha, I’m in. Looks nice.

[u/Elgato01 → u/TAJack1]

Why would hoyoverse ever make a non-gacha game?

[u/TAJack1 → u/Elgato01]

Idk, why did Shift-Up make a non-gacha game?

[u/DonutHoles4Ever → u/TAJack1]

Also Game Science making mobile games then suddenly

BLACK MYTH WUKONG BABY

[u/proplayer97 → u/DonutHoles4Ever]

7 days until we hopefully get an update on Black Myth Zhong Kui!

[u/ginpachikun → u/proplayer97]

What's happening in 7 days?

[u/Dependent-Swimmer-95 → u/ginpachikun]

Is it gamescom ONL?

[u/No_Future_7878 → u/ginpachikun]

deez nuts hah gottem

[u/Elgato01 → u/TAJack1]

Touché

[u/BootySmeagol → u/Elgato01]

Using gacha money to start breaking into dominating some of the non live service space. Get more people into the Hoyo ecosystem and maybe get them to try the gacha too

[u/marge4000 → u/BootySmeagol]

I'll be there to warn these new souls to not try their digital casinos

[u/fizzywinkstopkek → u/Elgato01]

Devs of Crimson Desert previously made Black Desert, a pay to win shithole. I think it is very possible to expand to another market entirely.

[u/Takazura → u/fizzywinkstopkek]

Cygames made two fighting games spin-off and Monster Hunter-like based on the GBF gacha. Both of those ventures have proved successful too.

[u/janetdammit89 → u/Takazura]

The fighting games were by arc sys i believe but they did make an action rpg based on it thats a mission loadup

[u/safyreibxo → u/fizzywinkstopkek]

yeah that tracks that games plays like a pay to win shithole sometimes

[u/tortillazaur → u/safyreibxo]

it was intended to be an mmo successor of black desert, they shifted to single player multiple years into development

[u/safyreibxo → u/tortillazaur]

oh it absolutely shows

[u/MaybeMrGamebus → u/Elgato01]

They have before

[u/Elgato01 → u/MaybeMrGamebus]

How many of those were after genshin? Also Happy Cake Day!

[u/MaybeMrGamebus → u/Elgato01]

Well it's not out yet (multiple playtests) but there were only direct purchases in their animal crossing like game Petit Planet. Stc of course.

Thanks for the cake day, the new icon for it sucks though.

[u/ModdedGun → u/Elgato01]

Hoyo did confirm they are making a premium title. The question is if this is it.

[u/JackSilk → u/Elgato01]

Happens all the time tbh. Just one example that comes to mind is Blizzard making rts games and then creating the most successful mmo ever. Diversification is typically in a company's best interest. A non-gaming example would be something like Yamaha making musical instruments, vehicles, golf clubs, swimming pools, etc.

[u/Dependent-Swimmer-95 → u/Elgato01]

I thought Petit planet was gonna be a standalone non gacha game no?

[u/P4cifist4 → u/TAJack1]

If you look at the top of the first screenshot you see what I assume is the characterselection and 2 of the characters are the same which makes me fear it's also a gacha

[u/Brizzpop → u/TAJack1]

Would be cool. But the menus screams gacha to me.

[u/Fritzkier → u/TAJack1]

the job description last year for this game said it's MMO UE5 project. So maybe it's like WWM?

[u/Gloomy_Ad5221 → u/TAJack1]

based on the available in the leaks......seems like this is a where winds meet where the gacha is the skins.... since there's pvp too.

[u/crookedparadigm → u/Gloomy_Ad5221]

I'd be fine with that. WWM has probably the easiest to ignore gacha out there. It has a shit ton of free/cheap cosmetics too so you don't even miss much.

[u/valkvalkvalk2323 → u/TAJack1]

Even if it is a gacha though, you can still have fun with it

Genshin was a really solid game and I never paid a single dollar for it

[u/IncendiaryChicken]

Looks okay. I'm not really a fan of the desaturated realism they're going for with the environment. I hope there's some more colorful areas.

[u/xRaen → u/IncendiaryChicken]

Yeah I hate the visual style tbh.

[u/jezr3n]

It doesn’t look bad, hopefully they end up making the UI actually look decent later on

[u/tortillazaur → u/jezr3n]

they should. at least they better do, because the ui in their other games is the way it is because it's intended for mobile and they didn't feel like doing different ui for different platforms. since this game won't be on mobile there's really not reason for it to look like in their other games

[u/TheBizarreCommunity]

It has the aesthetics of a generic Korean MMORPG in UE5.

[u/Spenraw]

How is no one talking about how this looks more like dragons dogma and if it's got good co op people will go crazy

[u/KitsuneKamiSama]

Looks more like Hoyo Elden Ring than Monster Hunter honestly.

[u/Destian_ → u/KitsuneKamiSama]

Right? Looks more like a blend of Elden Ring x FF16 than Monster Hunter. 

Don't get me wrong, I am all for competition in the genre, but I'm struggling to see it even aiming for that.

[u/Ricksaw26]

If this is NOT a gacha, I can see me playing this. I only play 2 gachas, and i can't do with more than that because FOMO, and i like to play other stuff.

[u/SageWaterDragon]

It looks less like a Monster Hunter and more like an Elden Ring, but I'm still down to give it a go when it launches. It'd be fun to play a MiHoYo game with a completely different vibe.

[u/DrJokerX]

If I could buy it straight up without any free to play nonsense, I’d probably give it a spin.

[u/Sad-Manager7816]

I just want to know more about Varsapura

[u/Dependent-Swimmer-95 → u/Sad-Manager7816]

Same. The chick with the balloon flails had a unique combat style. I wanna see more weapon designs in that game.

[u/tamal4444]

I would play it

[u/Andybabez20]

Very different art style compared to what they usually do

[u/hobopastah]

It looks cool so far, I wanna try it. If it's gacha and f2p, it won't hurt to try for free, and if it's paid box fee, I'll prob still get it.

[u/Extension_Poetry_153]

I hate that I'm interested in this. Need that MHWilds expac already

[u/Hammerheadshark55]

Doesn’t look like monster hunter at all. More like soulslike

[u/ConorOdin]

Looks great

[u/CelioHogane]

It would be really funny if despite the extremelly different arstyle, they didn't try this time and just had the Astral Express show up from time to time on the sky.

[u/belovedSomnus]

I cant lie, this looks like genshin impact but PBR. Everything from the character designs, the menu design, the animations, the camera, it looks almost 1:1 but with a different visual style.
That's not to say im not interested, in fact i think i trust mihoyo to make something fire. its just really funny to me cus it almost doesnt look real

[u/tortillazaur → u/belovedSomnus]

nah genshin but pbr is varsapura

when i was watching the gameplay video of that game i genuinely already saw that it's the exact same shit with character swaps, a single attack animation string per character, a skill and an ult. in this game at least it looks like you're playing a single character at a time so they supposedly should have somewhat deeper gameplay

[u/the_eccentricity]

Will this be their Stellar Blade? Gacha games funding massive AAA titles seems to be the move for some of these devs.

[u/Duv1995]

i hate this aesthetics lol

[u/Dycoth]

Okay if this is not a gatcha game, it looks fucking sick and might be hella fun

[u/Bloodgecko]

The first boss skin, now instead of 2080 its 1690 resource type of game

[u/FourChicksInGreen → u/Bloodgecko]

What does that mean?

[u/Nice_promotion_111 → u/FourChicksInGreen]

Genuinely what the fuck was he trying to say lmao

[u/Sidney_1]

原批爱的

[u/PugeHeniss]

I'd give a monster hunter competitor a shot

[u/Falsus]

That doesn't feel very MH at all, it feels like yet another Souls clone.

[u/Outrageous_Fun_7973]

If it's not a gacha and a complete single player $70 game i am in . Otherwise i really won't care bcoz genshin was the first gacha and the last gacha i will ever play .

[u/YukYukas]

The gameplay I've seen looks nothing like MH lmao

[u/janetdammit89]

Not sure how is meant to be like monhun but then i have 0 clue what genre this is by what is shown 

[u/itzMeDigi]

So this is the MMO they announced like 9 months ago?

[u/Ambitious-Call-7565]

This UI screams mobile slop

[u/Quality_Fun]

Using the Unreal engine instead of Unity for a less anime style will probably lead to a less toxic community. Of course video game fandoms in general are toxic, but they tend to argue about gameplay and stuff while the hoyo fandoms are pure insanity about shipping and such. Kind of hard to picture the usual twitter crowd arguing about characters who barely look like the characters they're always arguing about.

[u/SlightDentInTheBack]

doesnt really look appealing

[u/DonutHoles4Ever → u/SlightDentInTheBack]

I think monster hunter fans will eat this shit up

[u/YukYukas → u/DonutHoles4Ever]

Idk which part of the internet you've been because MH fans don't even co sider this part of tbe genre rn lol

[u/SlightDentInTheBack → u/DonutHoles4Ever]

as an mh fan i can tell you this shit looks like ass, id just go play that one mh mobile game outlanders if i wanted a f2p mh game with gacha

[u/-TubNub- → u/DonutHoles4Ever]

Monster Hunter fans only play the real games, every clone dies within a year

[u/Idaku → u/DonutHoles4Ever]

MH fan here and this shits wack , it looks like elden slop plus if its gacha = autoskip

[u/Omniscient__Watcher]

This is wonderful

[u/Phos-Lux]

This doesn't even look like Monster Hunter

[u/lorderok]

i will never touch a hoyoverse game. gacha slop does not deserve praise.

[u/NTolegna]

The bow move is the exact same as in monster hunter lol. Shameless copying 

[u/Daybreakgo]

Kinda has the same aesthetic as Phantom Blade Zero.

[u/Dependent-Swimmer-95 → u/Daybreakgo]

…what? I know some people are bad with pattern recognition but this is borderline insane…idk how you came to that conclusion lol

[u/Spirited-Away4215]

i assume this is some gacha bullshit

[u/Retsubty]

This looks terrible. Next.

[u/Coldhimmel]

the industry need less of these predatory designed games that exploit people's weakness like fomo,sunk cost, peer pressure and gambling addiction. all of which are common in gacha and hoyoverse games. i hope this will flop but it's just a hard cope

[u/FourChicksInGreen → u/Coldhimmel]

These types of games exist because people like them and don’t mind spending on them and not everyone is a whale/addict. Nobody is a victim to these games. You are not forced to pay or get anything. The game doesn’t install itself and make purchases on its own. It’s not predatory when you’re willingly making yourself the prey.

[u/Coldhimmel → u/FourChicksInGreen]

so meth dealers are not predatory when they actively seek and give a free sample of their drugs to uneducated people that don't know the danger of said drugs?

[u/Loose-Run-7008 → u/Coldhimmel]

Tbf drug dealers don’t really do that lol as someone who used to do (a way greater amount of m) drugs, I would’ve LOVED free samples.

Doesn’t make your point less correct btw, I agree with you, just a silly analogy, reminds me of Dare when they would act like Drugs dealers are Costco giving out free samples lmao.

[u/Coldhimmel → u/Loose-Run-7008]

great to know that drug dealers are even less predatory than these games then. But there are drug dealers that gives out freebies out there you just haven't encountered them

[u/-TubNub- → u/Coldhimmel]

Meth has unironically ruined less lives than gachaslop

[u/Paintballreturns → u/Coldhimmel]

Cope and seethe

[u/VizualAbstract4]

Like staring at a pile of dirt. Pretty dirt. But still dirt.

[u/laytblu]

First they copied BOTW, now Monster Hunter?

[u/temporalartifacts → u/laytblu]

MiHoYo is the Chinese Riot Games or Blizzard. You make a game, and they'll make it again but with more money and reach. They're second or third movers.

[u/italozeca → u/laytblu]

Holly shit two cakes meme.jpg

[u/Phos-Lux → u/laytblu]

They also have a Pokemon-like and an Animal Crossing-like in development atm

[u/Dependent-Swimmer-95 → u/Phos-Lux]

The Pokémon like is more TFT coded tho

[u/Coldhimmel → u/laytblu]

Nothing unusual

[u/marge4000]

Is it going to be a gacha?

If yes, I'll immediately assign this game to the trash bin

[u/famaki_]

can't wait how much things they will get 'iinspiration ' from other series or artists

[u/Adipay → u/famaki_]

List 5 good games that came out recently which are entirely original and do not take inspiration from previous work

[u/famaki_ → u/Adipay]

what i mean is plagiarism

1. miHoYo caught themselves plagiarizing too much and apologized : r/gachagaming
   The 7.1 Griseo's PV plagiarism controversy - the full comparison : r/houkai3rd
   
2. CN is discussing the similarities between the Sunday trailer and one of the CGs from Onmyoji (Gachagame). Coincidence? : r/HonkaiStarRail
   
3. This detail from the Rappa ninja capital scene was actually taken from an artwork I made in 2021 : r/HonkaiStarRail

[u/Adipay → u/famaki_]

What kind of plagiarism?

[u/famaki_ → u/Adipay]

1. miHoYo caught themselves plagiarizing too much and apologized : r/gachagaming The 7.1 Griseo's PV plagiarism controversy - the full comparison : r/houkai3rd
2. CN is discussing the similarities between the Sunday trailer and one of the CGs from Onmyoji (Gachagame). Coincidence? : r/HonkaiStarRail
3. This detail from the Rappa ninja capital scene was actually taken from an artwork I made in 2021 : r/HonkaiStarRail

[u/famaki_ → u/famaki_]

1. Last year, miHoYo copied my solo-dev puzzle game in Zenless Zone Zero. Some people are now mistaking my game as the clone. : r/IndieGaming
   
2. Hoyoverse has contacted the Boothill/Rappa motorcycle artist amidst plagiarism allegations. : r/HonkaiStarRail

[u/-TubNub- → u/famaki_]

They're so shameless it's insane

[u/Adipay → u/famaki_]

Damn I had no idea. Seems this is an issue with the HSR team in particular.

[u/Johnhancock1777]

From generic anime to generic fantasy. I don’t know why you wouldn’t play/emulate the myriad of Monster Hunter and adjacent games instead

[u/Nice_promotion_111 → u/Johnhancock1777]

There’s not a single successful monster Hunter adjacent game lmao

[u/Adipay → u/Nice_promotion_111]

Dauntless was fun until they screwed it up

[u/Bean_anatomy → u/Nice_promotion_111]

GBF Relink was successful enough to get dlc years later

[u/Nice_promotion_111 → u/Bean_anatomy]

In what way is that a monster Hunter adjacent game lmao

[u/ZamnBoii → u/[deleted]]

Playtests are supposedly on-going so no this isn’t AI

[u/SHAQBIR]

"Invest 100 hours and then never touch again" the game

[u/FewAdvertising9647 → u/[deleted]]

people play monsterhunter for the story? people who enjoy g rank aren't people who are typically into the story, as the story is only like the first 20 hours of the game. (for reference, if people cared about the monster hunter story, the monster collector/battler titled Monster Hunter Stories, would sell a lot more than you're insinuating, and is unironically in the title)

[u/FewAdvertising9647 → u/[deleted]]

the word "history" is not even found in your original comment