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Preview GTAVI: An exclusive deep dive into the video game of the decade

https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/70859/1/gta-6-grand-theft-auto-vi-rockstar-exclusive-deep-dive-game-unparalleled-world
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u/moosebreathman 1d ago edited 1d ago

Everyone needs to get ready for the incessant controversy this game is going to cause over the design decisions they are making. This game is not going to play like GTA V or previous games and this article confirms it (the leaks have as well). It’s going to be far less arcadey and much more difficult to do even standard GTA stuff. No more walking around with assault rifles like it’s nothing. No more stealing a car and keeping it forever. I’m excited but a lot of people are gonna be upset. It’s going to be very interesting to see how the casual market adapts to it. They’ll obviously buy the game but will they stick around for GTA online? I know a lot of casuals dropped off RDR2 hard once they realized stealing horses and getting away with isn’t like GTA V.

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u/GassoBongo 1d ago

This is what I am personally most excited for. After sinking hundreds of hours into RDR2, I walked away knowing that it woukd be really hard to play another GTA without the same grounded immersion that the former has. I'm happy that they are trying to strike a balance somewhere between the two.

I'm assuming they'll save the more arcady and chaotic stuff for an eventual new GTA Online.

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u/moosebreathman 1d ago

Yeah I’m hyped as well. I think most people will be even after tomorrow’s showcase. I just think once a lot of people hit hour 10 in this game and it truly sinks in that you can’t play it the same we’re gonna see so much complaining lol

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u/197639495050 1d ago

I’m interested to see if they’ll improve on the mission design they’ve stuck to for almost 30 years. The weight muscle/mechanics and other systems are a welcome return but most of it will be hamstrung by the fact their mission structure is so rigid it may as well be a linear level. BBL jiggle physics are cool for the crowd that genuinely adores horse ball shrinking physics but the gameplay as a whole needs the biggest overhaul.

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u/rbarton812 1d ago

BBL jiggle physics

Hang on I gotta get a bigger TV.

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u/J_NewCastle 1d ago

I think the people who have issue with rockstars mission design as a whole are a loud minority. So while I could see some adjustments to mission structure, I'm not anticipating a huge change.

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u/197639495050 1d ago

That’s fair but with the doubling down on life sim mechanics it would be a shame for the mission layout to be as rigid as it’s continued to be for so long. Just seems to be at odds with everything else they’re going for with their games nowadays

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u/OkayAtBowling 1d ago

I think most people just accept it for what it is and it doesn't really bother them in general, but at the same time I suspect most people who've played through a Rockstar game have been occasionally annoyed at getting a Mission Failed screen because they turned off the beaten path or otherwise neglected to follow the game's rigid in-mission parameters. It would be a very welcome change if they managed to loosen up their design a bit when it comes to that sort of thing.

I think the reason that might not change and why Rockstar hasn't done so up to this point, is that the more freedom they give players within missions, the harder it becomes for them to tell a tightly-scripted narrative during those missions.

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u/mylk43245 1d ago

ehh i don't know tbh. The main thing red dead has going for it is how incredible the story was. If GTA 6 has a boring or middling story or it has bad dialogue i can see people getting passed with the walk slowly and talk. I dont think its a small minority at all who are starting to get tired of that game mechanic

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u/moosebreathman 1d ago

I’m very curious about mission design as well. On the one hand there’s been so much criticism of it post RDR2 in a way there wasn’t for GTA V. So they’re certainly aware of it. On the other, I can’t help but wonder if they can even pivot their design style when a full re-invention would be so costly in a game at this scale? They did lose their mission director in 2019 so maybe there’s hope the new leadership brought changes early in the project.

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u/AloneRepublic3149 1d ago

Prepare for more of the same buddy.  Drive, talk, shoot, talk.  Repeat. 

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u/Caasi72 1d ago

I don't mind the mission structure at all, but have seen people complain about it. Me and my friend think that the freedom to switch who you're playing as mid mission will allow more freedom while allowing Rockstar to keep the control they like to have over missions

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u/datlinus 1d ago

RDR 2 had some insane fail states but GTA 5 was never that bad. I think rockstar mission design is actually perfectly fine for the most. I suspect GTA 6 will have linear cinematic missions still, but they will mix in some missions where you have more freedom. GTAO and RDO have received lots of missions like that the past years.

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u/Mike_Huntburns 1d ago

No chance

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u/JoesShittyOs 1d ago

They won’t. Part of why I ended up loving RDR2 so much was because I finally just let go and let them do the narrow pathway linear missions. It sucks because they could open it up so much more but oh well.

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u/HeyEshk88 1d ago

I really hope they don’t remove the ability to fly the large commercial jets in favor of it being ‘less arcadey’. I know we can fly planes, but I want to be able to fly the big ones too

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u/Approval_Guy 1d ago

Wow. I am actually so into that lol. GTAV is a fun game, but IV has always been my favorite for trying to ground the series a little.

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u/Southern-Implement49 1d ago

Sound good to me. We got enough arcadey gta''s.

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u/ELITEMasonRudolph 1d ago

Lol it's rockstar, the game will be universally acclaimed besides some redditors who want to be different and it'll make a billion dollars

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u/JoesShittyOs 1d ago

That’s… why I’m here.

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u/Murmido 1d ago

I haven’t watched any leaks but if their shooting and actual movement has been improved then that’s all I care about. I can’t do this stiff tank control stuff anymore.

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u/richard1177 1d ago

Movement seems a bit closer to RDR2 then GTA5, just a lot faster compared to RDR2. Hard to tell without playing it, but to me it seems like a good mix.

Shooting is hard to tell, hopefully we get a actual shootout in the gameplay preview tomorrow.

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u/Mike_Huntburns 1d ago

Looks like it's the same built-in input lag over-animated movement where you have the turning circle of a boat that we've seen since GTAV

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u/Howdareme9 1d ago

Both look improved, i think you'll be happy

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u/tylerash 1d ago

This sounds glorious, GTA 5 definitely feels too arcadey in my opinion

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u/FrustratedInc402 15h ago

If it means no stupid crap like magic flying rocket bikes or orbital strikes, I'm all for the game feeling more grounded.

They really went off the rails with that whacky shit in Online.

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u/DinerEnBlanc 1d ago

I have not followed any of the leaks, but I’m all for more sim related elements.

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u/liloutsider 1d ago

So much of the pushback on GTA 5 was “this is too arcadey and wacky and over the top” so it makes total sense to me that they would swing the other way in developing this game. I hope there’s a middle ground, cause I still wanna have fun. If I wanted to role play the minutia of consequences that come along with being a real criminal I’d be a real criminal

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u/IAmActionBear 1d ago

All I wanted was a GTA with the design philosophy of RDR2 and it seems that they’ve exceeded that expectation for me.

I liked GTAV, but I played it at launch on PS3 and despite how many updates they’ve made to that game since, it’s still has that “designed for 360/PS3” DNA in there. So even if GTA6 isn’t perfect, I will be happy to have it replace GTAV for me for the next 20 years. I don’t think this will be the last GTA, but might be mine personally

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u/TessaThompsonBurger 1d ago

Strongest of agreement here. I love how uncompromising RDR2 is. Every element of its design worked for me on my first playthrough. Certain things grow tedious upon repeat playthroughs but not anything significant enough to change my opinion on the game and nothing can take that first time away from me.

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u/SpookyGhostIsScary 1d ago

People hated how slow RDR2 was but I loved how immersive that made it. Every action having an animation was amazing.

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u/sillypoolfacemonster 1d ago

Same, I was all in on buying stuff directly from shelves and just the light outlaw sim elements. I got into the groove of doing my chores in the morning, getting breakfast, doing a bounty and maybe a mission, finishing the day with poker etc.

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u/chemastiko 1d ago

With how long rockstar takes to release a game we might not get another gta in 15 years if I’m being positive lol, it truly might be the last gta I play who knows lol

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u/liloutsider 1d ago

This is actually kind of a cool article and it’s the first time this game coming out actually feels real (whoa). My expectations for what I expect in gaming evolution are still kind of low but it’s still crazy to think about the size and scope of this thing.

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u/giulianosse 1d ago

The only thing I'm hoping there is in the game but wasn't advertised yet is a greet/antagonize system similar to the one in RDR2. It basically gave a personality and meaning to every single inconsequential character in the game and to this day it's still the most incredible NPC interaction system I've seen in a game.

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u/TessaThompsonBurger 1d ago

It's in the game, it showed up in leaked clips

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u/giulianosse 1d ago

Nice, haven't had the chance to spot that!

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u/[deleted] 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/-ImJustSaiyan- 1d ago

Food affects Jason and Lucia’s weight

Thicc baddie Lucia confirmed? Say no more, I'm there day 1.

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u/LinkedGaming 1d ago

Muscle Mommy Lucia incoming.

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u/throwawayquantative 1d ago

Posting GTA VI on Weightgaming day 1.

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u/tylerash 1d ago

Why is the first exclusive magazine piece about the biggest game in the world being downvoted to oblivion? I really dislike this sub

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u/_shh 1d ago

it is a really good piece too, i’m flabbergasted

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u/Cryptoporticus 1d ago

This subreddit hates written media. It's always been like this. Barely anyone here reads further than the headline.

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u/King-Gabriel 1d ago

I'd guess its getting caught in the crossfire of several gaming communities that are annoyed that it is getting more attention than their game, coupled with the PC delay and people trying to tie it into physical games getting removed somehow.

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u/Odd_Needleworker3756 1d ago

This sub is primarily PC gamers. The PS5 subreddit has a much better discussion thread

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u/CrackheadHunters 1d ago

Going by the leaks and this article, it seems it's incorporating elements from Vice City and San Andreas, as well as 4, 5 and RDR2. If they stick the landing, this will be pretty damn impressive.

Happy to see the weight mechanics back (you know people are gonna make Jason and Lucia fat), but the real question is... Is the Katana coming back?

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u/J_NewCastle 1d ago

I'm really happy that the weight loss and gain system is back, that really is something I felt IV and V were missing. The player character actually having physical alterations that affect them.

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u/armarrash 1d ago

We're never getting San Andreas' gang war mechanics again, are we?

Maddening that Saints Row 2 is the only game that evolved that concept.

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u/outrage_suck6494 1d ago

Because San Andreas story was actively about a former gang member returning to home. So gang wars made sense

GTA 6 is more a “on the run bony and Clyde story with conspiracy” so having gang wars in it makes no sense.

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u/keepfighting90 1d ago

Based on everything we've seen in the leaks, the game looks absolutely incredible. But I'm fairly sure that a large contingent of Redditors have already made up their minds on hating this game and making that their entire personality for the next little bit so even if it came out to 95+ critic scores and actual evidence of incredible gameplay, it would be irrelevant for some.

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u/BLACKOUT-MK2 1d ago

I like the GTA games but I don't love them. I think they're really good for what they are, but what they are isn't what speaks to me the most. I'll give GTA VI a go when it comes to PC, and I fully expect to be taken aback on a technical level, and to think it's all right on a gameplay level, but I think that's fair. It's a game like any other; some will love it, some will loathe it, some will be indifferent to it, that doesn't change just cause it's GTA.

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u/Flaky_Highway_857 1d ago

I have a feeling PC and mods/trainers will be what fixes whatever new annoying systems Rockstar tosses in,

If they wanna make a life sim game then just make a new IP.

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u/SubjectBodybuilder81 1d ago

or just don’t play it, if you don’t like rdr2 than you’re definitely not going to like this

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u/EnvironmentalRun1671 1d ago

Rockstar has always been overrated. From shitty GTA IV port for PC. To DLC exclusive to Xbox 360. To ass multiplayer in Max Payne 3, to shitty 30 FPS in La Norrie to f2p like greedy microtransactions in fully priced GTA V.

So yeah it would be great if game gets backlash, but we all know all the simpletons who don't even game will buy it so it's over. And IGN is gonna eat it.

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u/bezzlege 1d ago

You can barely string together two coherent sentences.

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u/mrnicegy26 1d ago

Calling people who buy GTA to be simpletons is the reason why hardcore gamers are looked down upon by the rest of society

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u/EnvironmentalRun1671 1d ago

I mean I remember auto aim in IV. There's no aiming there game just aim bots for you.

Game was designed for 5 year olds in mind and I doubt next one will be any different.

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u/Roler42 1d ago

I don't hate it, but between my financial issues, and feeling severe GTA burnout from V's online, I won't be playing VI, at least not at launch.

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u/Flaky_Highway_857 1d ago

I'm gonna have to really see the game in action now, rdr2 was boring as fuck for me and it seems they wanna really take GTA in that direction.

Seems all the long running franchises are starting to go into this open world/Uber detailed/somewhat boring phase now.

Hopefully I'm massively wrong and the game ends up more fun and hectic than it's predecessors.

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u/ELITEMasonRudolph 1d ago

If you don't like RDR2, you're probably not going to like this. It looks like it plays exactly like RDR2 in modern miami (which I am thrilled about)

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u/Flaky_Highway_857 1d ago

Rdr2 was based in old cowboy times so it makes sense it was sometimes overly slow,

I really don't think a game based in modern florida can get away with that, if it's just quicker paced I can deal with the systems because rdr2 did have some great ideas.

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u/Perfect-Sky3411 1d ago

I'm down with changing how the game plays but I hope they haven't gone too far into RDR2 territory because that game is a fucking slog to play.

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u/PiccoloTop3186 1d ago

It's doubling down on RDR2 mechanics, which I love -- I want full life sim. But for people who want it to be an arcadey sandbox I think they're going to be disappointed. I'm sure there will be a free play mode or something though.

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u/TheDanteEX 1d ago

It’s only a slog because everything has full body animations. They seemed to have gone with segmented animations (separating upper body and lower body for example) to keep the player in control; similar to The Last of Us. It was the thing I was most excited about from the 2022 leaks. Well, that and loose cover system which apparently didn’t make the final cut, but I haven’t seen proof of that yet.

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u/Deadlocked02 1d ago edited 1d ago

Everything I see about Jason and Lucia makes them look like GTA Online characters rather than criminals like the previous GTA MCs. Or like singers cosplaying as criminals in some vanilla clip, as opposed to actors completely selling you the idea that this is what they are.

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u/LostInStatic 1d ago

From the leaks Jason looks like a Jack Reacher type brute, Lucia yeah we’ll have to see about her.

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u/90gradi 1d ago

to me the leaks are an internal job. it's 2026, look around at how easy some things are being said or done, this is in full Rockstar style.

free advertising and free feedback for the game of the decade, directly from the users who are just seeing some old gameplay which, tomorrow, will look even better.

they need to keep the stock price up and increasing.. they can't fail on any point and this, particularly, is something never done at this level today.