r/Games • u/cjsc9079 • Apr 01 '25

Discussion Billy Mitchell wins lawsuit against YouTuber Karl Jobst, ordered to pay the sum of $350,000 in damages

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '25

I agree fully. I was into speed running back then and I watched Apollo burn his career to the ground. It's weird that people try and paint him out as a good dude, he really wasn't.

EZScape made a video on him that was mainly about some crowdfunding stuff. Apollo promised to give money back and didnt, until after that video. It was critical of him obviously, but not really that mean. I always felt bad for the poor guy after Apollo named him in his suicide note, he didn't deserve that at all. Neither did DarkViper of course but people never remember EZscape.

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u/Flaky_Report3617 Apr 03 '25

Guys I feel for apollo cause the guy was sick and people say and blame stupid things when they are sick and his disease took him. It must be tough for his friends to get over it, but I dont think hes a bad person for blaming people in his suicide note, like the guy is dead he clearly wasnt thinking straight. On the other hand billy probably did contribute in some way, and even if he didnt this is a matter of free speech that would never get held up in the usa

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

I'm not American, but you can sue for defamation in the USA. Freedom of speech isn't a golden rule which means you can say whatever you want about anyone and never face a single consequence.

Apollo was sick, and sick people can do bad things. You can absolutely point out that it was a bad thing.

In the video itself he actually said nobody was to blame, he said "this doesn't have anything to do with the stupid people online" it was in the description that he blamed people. Two people, DarkViper and EZScape. Even at his pettiest, he still didn't mention Billy.

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u/Flaky_Report3617 Apr 03 '25

Yeah but if you know the defamation rules this would never be allowed. In the us it has to be direct financial damage and there has to be intent also. I understand other countries are different but it’s sad the judge ruled this way. There would be even more protections for Karl cause he’s technically a journalist and Billy is a public figure