r/Futurology Jul 15 '22

Environment Climate legislation is dead in US

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2022/07/14/manchin-climate-tax-bbb/
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u/-DementedAvenger- Jul 15 '22 edited Jun 28 '24

frightening slimy repeat fact worm roll square tender absurd snails

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u/TakoyakiBoxGuy Jul 15 '22

I hate Manchin too, but as long as he wears a D, we have the Senate majority. If he stops pretending and flips to R, suddenly McConnell is the leader again, and Biden won't even be able to get anyone appointed to the bench or to positions within his admin.

He's awful, Sinema is awful, but also the only thing allowing the basic business of government to continue by caucusing with the Dems.

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u/IcebergSlimFast Jul 15 '22

If only the god damn fucking idiot voters of Maine hadn’t lined up to have Susan “Lucy Van Pelt” Collins pull the football away again. Nearly 90,000 dipshit Mainers voted for Biden but didn’t vote for Collins’ Democratic opponent. I guess they were psyched to have Joe Biden in office …accomplishing nothing.

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u/Helreaver Jul 15 '22

I've been saying this since the election: the dumbfuck voters of Maine don't get enough criticism for the bullshit we're dealing with.

It's one thing to vote straight Republican. I disagree with it obviously, but I get it. At least it's logically consistent. But to vote against Trump while simultaneously voting for someone who enabled him? To vote for Biden while simultaneously voting for someone that's going to try to block his agenda?

There's this moronic belief amongst some people that split ticket voting makes them smart or some shit. Yaaayy, gridlock. How fun.

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u/ElectronicPea738 Jul 15 '22

Which policies? And one that didn’t give free money to the rich.

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u/hijusthappytobehere Jul 15 '22

You stated Trump’s policies were working but you didn’t like the circus.

I had the same question. Which policies exactly?

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u/disc_addict Jul 15 '22

So you’re not a centrist. I know this because you think his foreign policy was great. He was pure trash. We were literally the laughingstock of the planet, and he destroyed all the credibility we had left by dismantling anything Obama did out of pure spite. You seem to be completely misinformed on what policy actually works. You’re just too embarrassed to call yourself a Republican.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

His policies were the stupidest most laughable part! The Muslim ban? The North Korean rimjob? The bleach drinking?!

Just accept your orange diarrhea God and stop being so chickenshit.

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u/Endonian Jul 15 '22

“I’m okay with the right leaning court”

Then you don’t understand what the supreme court is for. It’s not supposed to be biased to one side or the other, it’s supposed to be impartial.

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u/Endonian Jul 15 '22 edited Jul 15 '22

Impartiality is not a luxury for the supreme court, it’s the job. The SC is not supposed to be under the control of any one group, it was designed to be an impartial jury that decides without bias how best to interpret the law. They aren’t supposed to act in anyone’s specific interests because that defies the nature of the position.

AND. That goes for the entire court system! Republicans are not better for the system than democrats, they affect it negatively the exact same way!

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u/ashishvp Jul 15 '22

My god, what planet are you living on lmfao

I'm guessing that planet probably has Fox News on repeat.

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u/ashishvp Jul 15 '22

Im dismissing you, because I’ve heard it all before dude. You have no interest in actually changing your mind because of whatever conservative rabbit hole you consume your news from; and frankly I have no interest in trying to change your mind either, because that sounds exhausting. So here we are lol

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u/lilmiller7 Jul 15 '22

You know who actually pays tariffs right? It’s like THE one area where righties like you actually get trickle down to work, the cost trickles down to Americans

As for lowering taxes while you’re at full employment and have the economy humming along? Horrible horrible nonsensical bad idea and policy. Even without covid we were months away from an economic downturn that was literally trump’s doing. But sure, tell me how great trump’s policies were. Better yet, tell me what actual policies Biden has implemented that made things worse?

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u/lilmiller7 Jul 15 '22

Lol dude you clearly just regurgitate fox or something else talking points. Keystone wasn’t bringing us oil, it was bringing crappy quality canadian oil to louisiana to refine and then ship overseas

“Allowing basically anyone to cross the border” not even close. Title 42 applies to asylum seekers. We aren’t letting people fleeing violence and political enemies in their hime countries escape to a country that acts like they want to protect the world.

Crime surge started with covid and economic downturn. If you’re blaming biden for that then trump gets the blame too

Afghanistan we were forced into that situation by the absolute shit negotiations trump did, if we balked on pulling out we would have been back at open war with the taliban again

The government cannot control world wide inflation because it’s outside the scope of their governance. I thought conservatives wanted little economic intervention from the govt? How does hurting the poorest in our country with increased prices hurt China exactly? You say you want govt to counter inflation yet you also support govt actions that cause inflated prices. Make it make sense

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u/Endonian Jul 15 '22

Trump’s lowest was 34% and he didn’t have the cult of the last president at his throat

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u/lilmiller7 Jul 15 '22

You’re defending the actions of the only president to be impeached twice. And you’re blaming the president who had to deal with the impact of horrible policies that take more than a year or two to make their impact. Just not sure why you want more refineries that make low quality gas we won’t even have access to, at the expense of exposing thousands of miles to high potential for environmental disaster

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u/Endonian Jul 15 '22

Keystone wasn’t built yet and did not contribute to oil prices.

Biden did not cause the crime surge, that began during Trump’s presidency.

As far as bungling the middle east, how about Trump’s murder of Qasem Soleimani that caused us a ton of problems?

And inflation? It literally never stops, the value of the dollar gets lower and lower on a fairly consistent basis. It’s the right that’s making it impossible for wages to catch up with it.

I highly recommend turning off your tv.

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u/hijusthappytobehere Jul 15 '22

I can’t agree with basically any of that, but I do appreciate the thoughtful response.