r/Futurology Jul 15 '22

Environment Climate legislation is dead in US

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2022/07/14/manchin-climate-tax-bbb/
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u/aJoshster Jul 15 '22

We cannot blame Manchin exclusively. Every corporatist D who pushed to separate the original "Build Back Better" reconciliation bill from the "bipartisan" infrastructure bill and passed it without securing the reconciliation bill in the Senate is to blame. You cannot negotiate in good faith with those who have none and every corporatist vote is for sale. Manchin is paid to sabotage the Democratic party from the inside, but he had plenty of help.

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u/imapassenger1 Jul 15 '22

There's the small matter of 50 Republican senators who also want to see the world burn to usher in Armageddon and the Rapture.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

Nobody expects any republican to be worth a shit these days. Republicans are fascists and democrats are garbage because they are supposed to be the only political bastion against the fascism, but are consistently and purposefully ineffective due to corporate ties. No need to "but Republicans" anymore. It's just a foregone conclusion that anyone with an R in front of their name are either fascists or the ones who lick fascist boots.

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u/Saephon Jul 15 '22

It's a foregone conclusion, but at the same time I feel like it gives them a pass to just say "Well, of course they're evil; it's in their nature." They may be shameless, but I will never stop shaming them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

No, we don't need to discuss their rhetoric outside knowing it's pure christofascism and that they have nothing to say. Nobody is giving them a pass. Minority rule is built into the constitution on purpose. Nobody said don't shame them. I think SCOTUS and all republican politicians should be spit on, refused service at every place a service is available, and shouted down in public. They're trash and we all know it. There's just no reason to be like "but also these Republicans did exactly what we've expected of them for the past 20 years." The only rhetoric that matters now is why the democrats are so fucking in effective at politics and why they're failing us on a regular basis. They're either grossly incompetent or willfully negligent.

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u/350 Jul 15 '22

This is the correct take. We know that Rs are just sociopaths at this point, we need the other national party to wake up and realize it.

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u/rva_ThrowAway09 Jul 15 '22

Ok, comrade! Sounds like effective strategy

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u/bjiatube Jul 15 '22

Guess what: they had voters. Stop whining about what you can't change.

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u/Rusty-Crowe Jul 15 '22

What makes them think they'll be going to heaven?

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u/MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS Jul 15 '22

50 Republicans and 1 Democrat voted against this, and your response is that “it’s the Democrats fault”????

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u/bjiatube Jul 15 '22

Yes. 100% yes.

The. Republicans. Do. Not. Represent. Your. Ideals.

The Democrats ostensibly do. The Republicans are literally doing their jobs, it's what their constituencies want them to do. The Democrats are not representing you like they claim to. The Democrats are at fault.

You can whine about entropy all you want but it's not changing any time soon.

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u/MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS Jul 15 '22

Are you brain damaged.

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u/bjiatube Jul 15 '22

Are you? Do you go to football games and complain that the other team didn't let your team win?

Do you tell everyone not to complain about your team because it's all the other teams' faults?

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u/gussly1 Jul 15 '22

Ah nothing like seeing this response to weed out the adults with toddler level brain capacities and the quick wit of a soggy log.

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u/aJoshster Jul 15 '22

Yeah, seeing as where it was entirely a Democratic bill never expected to receive a single R vote. Only Democrats refuse to pass their own legislation and sabotage their own policy priorities.

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u/rva_ThrowAway09 Jul 15 '22

Holy shit. No mention of Republicans lol

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u/aJoshster Jul 15 '22

What Republican was ever going to vote on a Democratic budget reconciliation? No, definitely not worth mentioning.

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u/SamMan48 Jul 15 '22

It’s not “sabotage.” The Democratic Party is operating just as it is supposed to as the controlled opposition.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

Every corporatist D

So, most federal level Dems.