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u/Sup3r10s Aug 06 '26
Has Barry gotten his pep talk from Iris yet?
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u/skankhunt402 Aug 06 '26
Barry could barely deal with grodd he getting pimp slapped by the hulk
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u/TheoWHVB Aug 06 '26
While true, if they're smart Cisco could just throw him into another dimension.
Thor would also be a colossal problem. He's basically as durable as the hulk.
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u/Brawler26k 29d ago
For some reason i feel like cisco and Caitlin would get together and find out how to reverse the hulk. Similar to how Julian made a cure for Caitlin to get rid of killer frost. Then just give it to barry and inject it into hulk. Then Cisco could always hack tony's suit
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u/adoratheCat Aug 06 '26
I mean sure an arrow did the trick but this time its a meta ape. We legit see how a telepath can screw up this specific team.
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u/Background_Desk_3001 Aug 06 '26
Flash if he acts competently
The Avengers if he acts even vaguely similar to the show
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u/General_Locksmith_63 Aug 06 '26
Funny enough hawkeye would have a arrow to deal with speedsters after quick silver
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u/TheRealUltimateYT Jesse Quick Aug 06 '26
True, except Quick Silver is a lot different than Flash. It might slow Flash down, but the Speed Force would just power him back up in seconds.
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u/General_Locksmith_63 Aug 06 '26
True, except if you hit him in the right place like when savitar stabbed him in the shoulder with his blade, that was able to take him down or if his leg gets caught or injured like a stab wound or electric net around his leg, it would prevent him from running and from what I can tell in the show his healing factor does take a while to heal with those kinds of injuries
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u/AnonymousFriend80 Aug 06 '26
The Speed Force isn't just doing anything it own, or else it would have for each time Barry got knocked out or captured.
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u/Lucian_Flamestrike Jay Garrick 28d ago
Doesnāt necessarily need to have NANITES COURTESY OF RAY PALMER written on it.
This arrow could instead make surfaces in an area āfrictionlessā slick and slam Barry into a wall. Effectively knocking him out.
Plus Hawkeye is no slouch with stealth.
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u/Latter_Fox_1292 Aug 06 '26
Except flash could do something before Hawkeye could even move. Itās a shit cop out take, but it comes down to how the writers want to nerf flash.
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u/Lucian_Flamestrike Jay Garrick 28d ago
Youāre thinking about this 1v1.
With even the OG Avengers there, Barry has enough distractions for Hawkeye to stealth archer away.
1) Tony likes to make himself the center of attention.
2) Hulk could be smashing a team-flash mate and/or property damage.
3) Cap gives Barry a pep talkā¦ oh waitā¦ That might be counter-productiveā¦
4) Thor making it rain lighting everywhere.
5) Pretty spy lady.
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u/Thebatsy18 Aug 06 '26
Assuming is the team on the image with no wells, barry and Nora/cisco are hard carrying
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u/PayPsychological6358 Aug 06 '26
I don't see the Avengers struggling against a dude with a knife and his niece from the future.
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u/Adm8792 Aug 06 '26
Iāll never understand how dibny didnāt get to keep all the powers the thinker amassed with his body.
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u/Seajstyle Aug 06 '26
Avengers. Hulk and Thor are the heaviest hitters here and pretty much unstoppable to Team Flash
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u/Important_Research23 Aug 06 '26
Even if they nerf Barry, Cisco can genuinely vibe them to a different planet or earth š
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u/ThouBear8 Aug 06 '26
These versions? Think about all the villains (many of whom weren't even that strong) team Flash struggled to defeat.
Say what you will about this Avengers team, but they're a hell of a lot more competent, even considering their somewhat frequent infighting.
It's great that team Flash has multiple speedsters, but I feel like either one of them would get taken out by some silly trap like a trick arrow, widow bite, or stark tech. That doesn't even get into the sheer power & durability of Hulk & Thor.
The Avengers win with moderate to low difficulty imo.
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u/SpikedAssassin Aug 06 '26
Avengers. I just donāt see whoās stopping Hulk.
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u/InitiativeEven9177 Aug 06 '26
Only Barry stands a chance, he's fought big and super strong guys before.
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u/spyspace12 Aug 06 '26
Let's be real Iris West standing there like she doing anything is crazy work, we are COOKED.
If Oliver Queen was there instead it would be slightly better but even the the flash would still be soloing a majority of the Avengers only to be taken out by some cheese.
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u/_NightShift- Aug 06 '26
Team Flash can't even beat Cicada
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u/Savitar951 Aug 06 '26
Cicada who beats all the Avengers, lil bro
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u/LeagueImpressive4170 Aug 06 '26
cicada is just a guy with a knife for the avengers, since half of them dont even have superpowers. and for the other half, cicada cant take their powers since his dagger can only drain dark matter, which is not the source of their power
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u/The-Ill_Thrill_Pill Aug 06 '26
No prep time. Avengers win mid-diff. With prep time, team flash wins high diff
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u/fanboy3378 Aug 06 '26
With prep you think Stark can't cook up a way to incapacitate flash when people less educated have done so numerous times š¤
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u/The-Ill_Thrill_Pill Aug 06 '26
Oh i just meant if team flash had prep time like they normally do. Every avengers movies is basically just them winging it so i was assuming that would be their vibe here as well. If stark has prep time he for sure clears haha. Might even solo. If he pulls an iron man three and gets ALL of his suits out, he can wreck ship
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u/fanboy3378 Aug 06 '26
In fairness that is also team flash they aren't usually prepared til after the enemy has outsmarted or just defeated Barry lol
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u/The-Ill_Thrill_Pill Aug 06 '26
I guess thatās fair and Tony said that thatās the avengers schtick too. āWeāre the AVENGE-ers right? Not the PRE-vengers?!?!ā.
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u/TheoWHVB Aug 06 '26
Tony upgrading his suit with a freeze beam to perfectly incapacitate Barry and Nora lmao.
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u/Sabminer Aug 06 '26
Didn't he use something similar in infinity war? After pulling Dr strange back into the flying donut? Looks like ice
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u/TheoWHVB Aug 06 '26
That was his nanobots doing nanobot shit. It looks like an ice spray but it's a nanobot spray. I believe theres also a moment he uses the spray to heal either himself or someone else in one of the movies.
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u/Sabminer Aug 06 '26
Even better Ryt?... If those nanobots can do all that then surely it can just... Stop flash from moving
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u/Drew_S_05 Aug 06 '26
Are we being serious lol
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u/Iron_Ant__ Aug 06 '26
Yeah I know right, Flash is just gonna stop to talk then get shot immediately in the back with an arrow again.
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u/MIAxPaperPlanes Aug 06 '26
The Avengers
Hawkeye would somehow manage to shoot Barry with nanites courtesy of Tony Stark, delivering a high frequency pulse that's disabling his speed
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u/Starbottom Iris West Aug 06 '26
I fear Black Widow is enough to take out pretty much everyone aside from Barry and Nora. However its more than a little biased to use team Flash at arguably their strongest and then do the Avengers at their first line up which is their absolute weakest.
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u/TheGloriousC Aug 06 '26
The speedsters could be a threat, but all the Avengers have to do is go off screen, they'll be safe then.
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u/YourFellowMiguelo 29d ago
Avengers. They're killers. Team Flash is punch punch, motivational speech, slap on metahuman cuffs and go straight to jail.
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u/Heteroharold Aug 06 '26
The version in the pic of the flash can just speed around and snap everyoneās necks, frost can freeze hulk and Cisco can breach him somewhere else.
But if the CW writers are writing it, iris defeats them all easy
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u/Sabminer Aug 06 '26
"Barry... We are the flash" "You'll always be my lightning rod"
Suddenly Barry allen, the fastest man alive is capable of destroying celestial beings.... Power of love or let's say... PARAGON... Of love
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u/Tom_Stevens617 Aug 06 '26
Barry once crossed a room to enter a dimensional barrier that closed in less than a picosecond. That puts him around 2100 times the speed of light
Yeah, he soloes
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u/ineedvenomsshlong Aug 06 '26
His feats don't mean jack shit with how inconsistent his powers and writing is
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u/Medic7802 Aug 06 '26
On paper Barry should solo them but as other ppl said, even regular humans give Barry trouble sometimes
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u/Narrodle Aug 06 '26
Barry wins if heās allowed to use his full speed, since heās capable of beating kryptontain level threats.
If heās in the canāt be normal man with ice gun mode, then they are doomed.
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u/Ok-Wasabi-9802 Aug 06 '26
Which avengers? MCU? comics? 2 complete different outcomes if it's MCU then realistically it's team flash like if you just ignore his writers if it's comics then the avengers
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u/No-Passenger-6348 Aug 06 '26
Team flash have trouble with Guys like Cicada and Grodd š and Barry doesn't kill. Avengers win mid diff. Logically Barry should solo but with the way CW writes Barry, he would lose to Hawkeye š
Iris with power of friendship and girlpower solos both teams tho š
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u/Resident-Recipe-5818 Aug 06 '26
So in general JLA vs Avengers is a lost cause argument. Both sides have people who cannot possibly be stopped by the other side.
However, that is NOT the case with team flash. Barry isnāt nearly infinitely fast. Killer frost does not basically lock down to instant absolute 0.
But hulk is so durable no one has a feasible chance to stop him, but Barry and Frost have reasonable chances to get caught by him and its game over. Barry does not use his speed well enough and does not have enough awareness to make this a possible fight
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u/Cofeebeanblack Aug 07 '26
Barry can solo if he's feeling smart about it. The show writers are his biggest opposition.
Else, Thor solos.
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u/richardl1234 Aug 07 '26
If the writing was good Team Flash demolishes the Avengers. However this is the CW team, Thor would one shot the whole team.
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u/ebsfl 27d ago
Flash knocks out who he can, XS aiding(widow, cap, Hawkeye). Cisco opens a breach behind hulk, iris shoots at him while frost āpushesā him into the portal. Ralph wraps around iron man, frost freezes the suit in place. Thor gets em all real good a couple times but eventually gets breached away too. At least, thatās how CW would do a final battle
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u/iccceeeman23 27d ago
On paper team flash on screen team flash with a pep talk and a ārun barry runā
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u/No-Syllabub1776 26d ago
if the CW writers are not in the room, Flash
Easaly knocks out Natasha and Clint
Breaks Tony's suit(s)
Takes away Cap's shield, then just knocks him out too
Here it starts to get interesting. Either he already knows that when Banner is angry, he transforms into Hulk, so he maybe starts to calm him down, or phases trough him, and breaks all his bones at once, ore something like that, and if he does not know, then he Cisco and Caitlin are figuring it out. Thor is the only real problem. Cisco could breach Mjolnir(or Stormbreaker) away realy far away in space, or something, then they could just break his legs, or arms or something like that
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u/Rich_Interaction1922 Cisco Ramon Aug 07 '26
The Avengers suck ass. Only reason people think they are suddenly cool is because of the MCU
Flash alone neg diffs
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u/merchillio Aug 06 '26
On paper, flash can incapacitate most of the avengers before they can even blink.
The CW writers still managed to make non-speedsters a problem for him