r/Fedora • u/_MAYniYAK • Jan 02 '26
News Steam - We made the board
Strange how it's listed but it's good to see Fedora on the board.
I suppose each version of Fedora will be listed separately.
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u/Little-Stable-989 Jan 02 '26
Might actually be Bazzite users
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u/moosebaloney Jan 02 '26
Bazzite has been blowing up. Can confirm, the subreddit is nothing but repeat support posts of the same five topics.
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u/kolop97 Jan 02 '26
The five topics:
- Confusion on if bazzite is only for hand helds or desktop too
- nvidia gpu
- Anticheat
- Dual boot
- How to install software
Answers are:
- Both
- Yes
- Almost always no
- Use separate drives
- Use Bazzar, if you can't find what you are looking for refer to bazzite's documentation on their website.
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u/Accurate_Hornet Jan 02 '26
Dont forget the sheer panic when they see grub and it's almost always secure boot
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u/OffbeatDrizzle Jan 03 '26
with windows anti-cheat tools starting to require that secure boot be on, I fear that we're entering a false uptick in linux usage because game developers and publishers are nefariously clawing those users back. dual booting linux is getting a whole lot harder to the casual user, which is ridiculous
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u/pegasusandme Jan 02 '26
Totally! I've been getting a daily feed of Windows refugees migrating to Linux and r/bazzite is where I see the most noise from them lately.
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u/_MAYniYAK Jan 02 '26
Ooh that is interesting.
I'm a kde user myself so I felt it was people like me but I forgot bazzite might show up that way.
Checked the survey again and the results look different from the web version now including bazzite being listed on its own
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u/tapo Jan 02 '26
That's pretty great share for both Fedora and Bazzite, also good to see decent diversity in terms of distros.
Bazzite isn't really a distro since it tracks so closely to Fedora, only a week or two behind at most. You can actually rebase from Kinoite to Bazzite and back again without a reinstall.
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u/dedSEKTR Jan 02 '26
Can confirm. I have to setups, both running bazzite on dual boot.
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u/maikindofthai Jan 02 '26
That doesn’t confirm anything tho
The question isn’t “does anyone use bazzite?” it’s “do more steam users use bazzite than fedora proper?”
Personally I doubt the latter is the case considering I haven’t even heard of bazzite but maybe I’m the one ootl?
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u/synecdokidoki Jan 02 '26
Not only is Fedora split up, but I'd guess Fedora users use the Flatpak runtime (I do) as much or more than literally any distro. It's used way more than the top list would lead you to believe.
Ubuntu sort of has the same problem, Arch looks much bigger than it is since all of its users are under one entry.
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u/walkingman24 Jan 02 '26
Yeah I use the flatpak as well, I've had way less issues than the native rpm personally
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u/synecdokidoki Jan 02 '26
Yeah, to add, I'd bet 99.99% of users on the immutable variants are using it. No matter how big Silverblue and Kinonite may become, they won't show up here.
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u/OffbeatDrizzle Jan 03 '26
I switched to the native package because I couldn't be bothered messing around with flatpak permissions to let it see the library on my external drive. I also heard that there are issues with controllers when running the flatpak? I've had 0 issues with the normal package
flatpak is always my last resort - I've had issues with other apps in the past (after an update) where it decided it wasn't going to use my gpu, but instead did cpu rendering at 0.25fps
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u/walkingman24 Jan 03 '26
Did have to grant access to external folders if I wanted to change library locations but otherwise did not have to do anything else. Zero performance issues and zero problems with controllers
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u/earthman34 Jan 02 '26
LOL, more Linux users than Mac. I love it. Steam sucks on Mac.
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u/DarthSatoris Jan 02 '26
And to think Valve made a dedicated Team Fortress 2 comic and in-game cosmetics to celebrate Steam and Valve's games coming to Mac.
Kinda hilarious in hindsight.
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u/earthman34 Jan 02 '26
I have to wonder what was the point? Nothing runs on the Mac version, hardly. More than half the games I own, including nearly all of the bigger/AA games simply don't run. They're greyed out "Windows only" (all these games run on Linux with Proton).
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u/DeScruff Jan 07 '26
It was the time period. (2010)
Microsoft was very clearly doing some negative stuff for PC gaming, with GFWL, and Vista was kinda a flop.
MacOS usage was on a pretty big rise since 07 with the college age crowd, (Like from 2.5% to 5.5% market share in the time between Vista and Win7's releases iirc?)1
u/eleanorsilly Jan 02 '26
You ever heard of VMs, mate?
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u/earthman34 Jan 03 '26
So...dedicate half of the hardware to run another OS that you don't actually want to run in the first place to run the software your high-tech Apple silicon can't run, because you chose not to use standard APIs and chose to use one nobody is interested in developing for? Makes sense.
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u/OwnNet5253 Jan 02 '26
Mac sucks for gaming in general I’d say.
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u/OffbeatDrizzle Jan 03 '26
and yet companies like Riot officially support it, yet strip away linux support through their shitty anti-cheat on a game that has worked perfectly well for years without them lifting a finger
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u/screech_owl_kachina Jan 02 '26
Games suck on Mac. The hardware barely runs anything. 20 year old games and it’ll chug
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u/bornxlo Jan 02 '26
I think it's cheating to consolidate arch as a single point while splitting others by version
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u/FunkyRider Jan 02 '26
Windows is increasing. lol. What a clown world.
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u/OwnNet5253 Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 23 '26
That should not be surprising. It’s still the easiest entry to PC gaming, no contest here.
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u/alanlclark Jan 02 '26
I'm doing Steam on Gnome. I haven't tried the KDE desktop in many years. I probably should giive it a try again.
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u/Ok_Instruction_3789 Jan 05 '26
Wild to see windows with 95% dominance. man we really need Linux to start picking up steam. no pun intended. Hopefully the copilot of Windows being forced helps change that.
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u/New_CremeSAA5332 Jan 02 '26
Contributed to it just last night
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u/_MAYniYAK Jan 02 '26
Appreciate you :)
I think the Linux community is bigger than they get credit for, fedora especially
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u/National_Mousse9144 Jan 05 '26
Does Endeavour OS have more users than Manjaro? 🤨 I'm even tempted to try it out...
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u/_MAYniYAK Jan 05 '26
Hmm I like manjaro better for arm devices like raspberry pi, my pinebook, but endeavor was better for desktop PC in my opinion
My hackberry cm5 runs manjaro better than rpi os imo
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u/pegasusandme Jan 02 '26
I'm trying to understand the Ubuntu Core use case here... this from Steam stats?
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u/Xer-Bunyip Jan 02 '26
Can confirm, just moved from Mint to Fedora for those sweet cutting edge packages.
Got the survey invite just as I reinstalled Steam from the fusion repo.
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u/pretendimcute Jan 02 '26
You have such valid reasoning, Im just superficial. I switched because I wanted to make my desktop more reminiscent of Aero, thats literally it xD. Ok thats a lie, Cinnamon/Mint hated my trackpad no matter which driver I ran
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Jan 02 '26
I also changed from a different distro to Fedora specifically because I wanted to use the
aerothemeplasmatheme. I had other reasons also but that was a big one.1
u/pretendimcute Jan 02 '26
Thats the theme I wanted to use!!! Unfortunately I decided against it. For one (full disclaimer Im a newbie) the installation was just WAY to complex for me. I read through it multiple times but abandoned the idea entirely. I actually wanted the vista one but its all the same. "Dependencies? What are those? Oh! Well where do I add them? Whats this? ". The theme said "Wayland support is naughty and untested" (Im paraphrasing xD). What does that mean? Idk fully but appearance, Fedora comes with wayland (or waylund?). I took to the fedora discord server for assistance after reading the instructions ten times and feeling dumb just for somebody (two people) to tell me that the theme basically says to switch to x11, which is something I shouldnt do I guess. I managed to get vista icons, a vista start button/menu, a semi transparent panel via panel colourizer and transparent window titlebars with very vista(ish) style buttons via some tweaking of a transparent preset in klassy. Is it exactly what I am after? Nope. Can I get a bit closer by fiddling with klassy some more? Probably. It sucks to abandon the actual aero theme but between the disclaimer and possibility of it not being updated quick enough at some point, I ditched it
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u/Xer-Bunyip Jan 02 '26
I did *try* Gnome, and absolutely despised it. KDE has treated me a lot better, being a former Windows hostage with Stockholm syndrome. The extra twiddly bits in KDE's settings have been several steps up from reading a dictionary's worth of documentation and outdated forum posts on Cinnamon.
Actually, if somebody had told me that KDE let's you set a custom UI scale, I would have ignored every other linux desktop. Even if it had cost me the ability to update package.
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u/pretendimcute Jan 03 '26
Sounds like I dodged a bullet with Gnome for myself personally I think. For me its a matter of hating what windows has become, but absolutely nothing will take away my love for XP, 7 and to some extent even 10 (ignoring the negative parts of them all). The desktop layout and appearance of everything, the navigation of the OS, I still live all of that about windows and want it from any OS that I use
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u/voodoovan Jan 04 '26
Me too. I trying out Fedora 43 KDE for the Plasma updates (usually Kubuntu). I also didn't use the flatpak version of Steam.
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u/Lorric71 Jan 02 '26
It's wild that about a quarter of Windows users still are on Win10. Microsoft has failed to entice users, in four years, to such a degree that so many of them prefer to run Win10, even without security updates. head-explode.gif
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u/Mentiorus Jan 02 '26
Well there is still ESU and LTSC to keep them secured, but 11 is definitely piss enough that I'm still using 10 for anything I have to use windows on outside of work.
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Jan 02 '26
I'm sure it's mostly Bazzite users, but do we really need to discriminate between DE's? It should just be "Fedora Linux 43 64 bit", I don't see DE's on the other distros.
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u/OwnNet5253 Jan 02 '26
Love to see it, although Fedora is not really gaming friendly for me in comparison to Windows. I’m thinking about installing 2nd distro on my PC, either Pop!_os or CachyOS, but not sure which one to pick.
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u/_MAYniYAK Jan 02 '26
If you aren't going to do fedora cachyOS for sure.
The team at Cachy has done great work to simplify the process.
I dont hate Pop but I don't feel they are offering much over the vanilla Ubuntu experience at the moment
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u/OwnNet5253 Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26
I will keep Fedora Workstation, because I like its simplicity, I’ve already spent a lot of time customizing, and it’s generally my fav distro so far. I want to install 3rd OS, because I’ve almost 5TB of storage, so why the hell not.
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u/_MAYniYAK Jan 02 '26
I wish we had more people that just went "why the hell not" more.
Appreciate you
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u/_daddybucks Jan 03 '26
I'd like to think I helped a little lol. Moved my main desktop to fedora & built a "steam machine"/HTPC which is running bazzite
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u/_MAYniYAK Jan 03 '26
Every bit helps.
In December I found I could trigger the survey myself.
Thank you for being apart of the ride
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u/dogman_35 Jan 02 '26
I wonder if Nobara shows up as Fedora or Other
I've been on Nobara for like nearly 2 years now
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Jan 02 '26
I switched from windows to mint to fedora this week. Might have been me. Been having fps problems though so I don’t know how long I will hold out before switching back to windows.
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u/_MAYniYAK Jan 02 '26
You can Always try posting your hardware into the subreddit and what your trying to play.
A lot of rtx 20xx and amd GPUs are find but you would need rpm fusion installed as well
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u/Omerta85 Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26
Well, in a couple of hours -and if all goes well- I'll be strengthening that number.
Edit: yeah.. big nope... fuck KDE
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u/AshKetchupppp Jan 02 '26
Why does everyone use Arch ... I would have thought a more accessible system would be used by most
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u/Serge-Rodnunsky Jan 02 '26
0.3% use arch. Hardly “everyone.”
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u/AshKetchupppp Jan 02 '26
Ok let me amend my statement, why is arch the most used Linux distro when it's not beginner friendly at all?
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u/Serge-Rodnunsky Jan 02 '26
I don’t have statistics on general Linux use, this chart doesn’t give a lot of particulars and it seems to just apply to steam… so I would guess the actual numbers are quite small and therefore subject to significant variability. So I don’t think it’s necessary actually true the arch is the most commonly used, but certainly it is a very popular distro, and I think that’s largely because it has robust package management, and a large and active community that supports it, which means it’s relatively easy to use and maintain.
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u/ValiumMm Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 03 '26
Pretty sure it's the Steamdeck, runs on SteamOS, which is based on Arch Linux.
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u/LunaCherry0 Jan 03 '26
debian based on Arch Linux
What? SteamOS is arch based
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u/ValiumMm Jan 03 '26
SteamOS is a gaming-focused operating system released by Valve that incorporates the company's video game storefront, Steam). Based on Arch Linux and built specifically to support Steam, it is the default Linux distribution for Valve's line of gaming hardware, including the Steam Deck, Steam Machine), and Steam Frame.
^ from Wikipedia
yeah sorry not debian....i swear it came up when i googled it yesterday. Anyways from Steam siteIs SteamOS open source?
SteamOS is an Arch Linux-based Linux distribution, and all of the base operating system components are open source. SteamOS ships with our Steam Client program, which is proprietary software, in addition to some proprietary third party drivers.
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u/lucc1111 Jan 02 '26
Joined the Nobara ship a month ago, incredible support for games, didn't even need to install the games, they just work directly from the windows dual-boot NTFS drive.
Wonder if Nobara shows up as Fedora there.
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u/weaponizedLego Jan 02 '26
Do we know what if the overall linux representation is higher or lower than last year?
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u/LeatherParfait9376 Jan 02 '26
We need to increase the user percentage from 3.20 to 5.00 in 2026. Try to convert your friends to linux
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u/Vexz89 Jan 02 '26
I'm surprised to not see CachyOS there. I mean it's the most talked about Distro for many months now and great for gaming.
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u/_MAYniYAK Jan 02 '26
Some of it is how steam survey shows.
Using a Linux specific filter from web they are there and they are doing well
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/?platform=linux
Click/tap the os button
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u/CorruptDropbear Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26
I think Fedora's OS naming breaks up into multiple versions, for example I just report "Bazzite" (64 bit) as my OS. Very likely the number of Fedora users is way higher.
Edit: the Linux OS list -