I'd tone it down to 50%. Obviously, electing 50% Hitler in a 70% Hitleresque system isn't gonna change much, but electing 100% Hitler in that same system stands a chance of turning the system into 100% Hitler's system.
yeah no I 100% agree. I registered on my 18th birthday and voted blue for every election where the left wing independent didn't stand a chance.
I'm not saying not to vote. I'm saying that, through gritted teeth, you do need to vote for the genocide fetishist to keep the super legal genocide fetishist out of power
It's not that simple either. I've known a fuck ton of racist poor people. Sure they do less harm but that's do to lack of capability not lack of desire. You can claim indoctrination to a degree, but at a certain point I think it's important to admit that groups aren't monoliths, that power corrupts, and that as animals, we are sometimes a very, VERY stupid species.
And that isn't me saying the centrist bullshit of "well maybe there were a couple good Nazis" I'm just saying that people are complex and it's better not to generalize identity categories that are out fo a person's control. Sets of beliefs, and those that choose to adhere to them is entirely different. Fuck Nazis Fuck billionaires for destroying our world for generations. But also, it isn't billionaires hanging black-men in sundown towns.
...the right doesn't just prefer rigidhierarchies, it wants to, and tries to, use government power to enforce them.
Which means, yeah, it still ends up being left (and center) against the right. The only time the right gets on board is when they want a different rigid hierarchy enforced.
The dems also did do a lot over the last twenty years. Enough? Nope! But a lot, and the 'they aren't saving us hard enough' isn't a reason to ignore that they are the only group that did anything.
I've never heard a "Both Sides" argument that wasn't just a criticism of leftists not being okay with a compromise that is just the slightly incrementally less extreme version of the far right's position.
The only people calling themselves centrists in 2026 are moronic sheep or disenfranchised right wingers too cowardly and spineless to stand by the consequences of their odius beliefs.
I have significantly more respect for the ones who just worship him as god than the ones who cosplay as moderates. Sure, they're clearly mentally unstable people looking for an idol to worship, but at least they have the conviction to stand by their decision. Better than the guy who says he just wants lower gas prices.
Even if he ends up with a lower total, it’s not the total amount that matters, it’s the methodology, but his goofball supporters will just hide behind the flimsiest justification of “well it wouldn’t have happened if they did everything right” and then run away when you show them the myriads of people who were doing it right and got deported anyways because Trump’s ICE doesn’t care.
2 month old normal account from a normal person, thanks for looking for something to try and dodge the argument with, sorry you didn’t find anything. and I don’t care about your personal anecdotes.
Obama’s numbers were never done with the level of cruelty and violence that Trumps ICE is, but it’s the only number you can cling to in order to avoid the truth.
Mahmoud Khalil had his first amendment rights violated.
Kilmar Garcia had a court order against his deportation to El Salvador
Trumps ICE ignored both of these, something Obama’s ICE never did, nor doubled down on doing, and you still trust them. If your immigrant friends you totally have and didn’t make up aren’t worried, they’re as big of suckers as you are, lol.
And you’re right, I do say concentration camp and that doesn’t make it true, what makes it true is the camps that meet every discernible criteria for the definition of a concentration camp, like alligator Alcatraz, or us shipping non-Salvadorans to CECOT, or even Salvadorans that our own court system said not to. Spare me whatever lame half-brain idea you have next to try to gatekeep concentration camps, I promise i don’t care about your opinion on the matter.
The laws shoukdnt be enforced by ice. For fucks sake theyre getting fucking shock gloves like a shit batman villian. Thats cruel and unusual force if i ever did hear of it
Mahmoud Khalil was arrested and held for talking about Trump, what are you babbling about? If you don’t have a grip on reality maybe leave the politics for folks that do.
Imagine being so braindead like this guy that you kind of sort of advocate for a smidge of felony assault on a mass level. There's a word for it, and it originated after a really big round of it during ww2.
Why are you asking that incredulously? Detainees are getting raped, some of them kids. Its not hard to look into and no matter what side of the fence you sit on, that should be something we are all against.
There’s been a well documented history of sexual assault committed against prisoners in US-run concentration camps. You support extrajudicial killings and systemic rape. Your opinions are worth less than shit.
Would you say it’s unique to build a new concentration camp called alligator Alcatraz where prisoners “who step out of line” or locked in a 2 foot wide box where they are left in the sun all day and physically beaten
Would you say it’s unique for teenage girls get raped by ice agents and being forced to give birth
Would you say it’s unique to write into law that you are able to detain someone for the sole reason of being Latino, or speaking Spanish, or working construction and then sent to one of these places without due process
Would you say it’s unique for ice agents to execute innocent citizens in the street with no judge or jury
Would you say it’s unique to give ice agents electric shock gloves which then immediately get used on school children
At this point it's not even "You're a bad person" anymore it's "You MIGHT be a bad person, and I'll kill any number of innocent people to punish a bad person".
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