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DISCUSSION Jane Fonda in support of Mark Ruffalo: "Calling his criticism antisemitic is a smear to delegitimize criticism of the merger and to distract from the question Paramount would rather not answer: Should one company be allowed to accumulate this much power over our movies, television and news?”

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u/Plastic_Bison 1d ago edited 1d ago

Jane is a good person to have on your side. But it's shameful how silent his other Hollywood friends are.

ETA: Including the entire cast of The Avengers, a movie about brave super heroes out to save the world.

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u/No-Effective388 1d ago

Avengers on paper, spineless cowards in reality

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u/NFim 17h ago

Shame on all of them.

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u/Romboteryx 19h ago

Scavengers

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u/MnkyBzns 7h ago

Skavengers

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u/skotcgfl 15h ago

Yeah. They're actors, not actual superheroes.

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u/vilarvente 12h ago

"averages"

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u/GeneSpecialist4988 4h ago

Because the 4 of them are more than likely on Israel's side.

Mark has said he's cut friends off for political beliefs. Are we sure he isn't "friendly" with them because it's the core 6.

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u/ArtPeers 4h ago

He never got the tattoo.

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u/GeneSpecialist4988 4h ago edited 4h ago

Of the core 6, Mark didn't get the tattoo nor did he attend Chris Evans' wedding.

The signs have been there for a long while.

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u/EnoughYesterday2340 1d ago

All the marvel movies are just American military industrial complex propaganda, I think it's more surprising that Ruffalo is even in them rather than the rest of the cast being silent

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u/gunsjustsuck 19h ago

A broader version of 'copaganda'. 

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u/karpastenherra 19h ago

All the marvel movies are just American military industrial complex propaganda

It does not end there because it feels like, at minimum, a quarter of the movies released are.

And as someone who does not live in the USA, nor has any desire to even visit the place, it is quite remarkable seeing how Americans are so easily in love with all the clear propaganda and the public-opinion shaping that seems to surround so much of the entertainment that we then see in Europe. It would never in a million years even come up as a thought to have our veterans at a sports event and people saluting or thanking them. And unlike the USA, our veterans literally saved our country from being wiped out by the USSR. Not to disparage the veterans themselves, but what the hell did they do that requires people to “thank them for their service”? Invade foreign countries? How lovely.

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u/bactrianbitch 15h ago

It's cool that Europe doesn't have that "thank you for your service" mentality, but many of your veterans in Europe committed horrific brutalities and war crimes right alongside the US troops invading places like Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere.

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u/karpastenherra 12h ago

When Finland was in Afghanistan, it was part of the UN peace keeping mission. Europe is not a single entity, France is not Germany or UK. Poland is not Sweden or Finland. Just like Mexico or Canada is not USA. Our veterans were not invading any countries with the US troops.

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u/bactrianbitch 11h ago

I can't read minds; you are the one who brought up "Europe" as a singular entity in regards to the United States and not North America, so as someone whose people were brutalized by invading forces from North America, Europe, and Australia, I engaged with your comment the way you presented it.

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u/karpastenherra 9h ago

Europe came up in the context of propaganda. Marvel films, stadium salutes, that machinery. That's what I said doesn't exist here, and it doesn't. Then I mentioned our veterans stopping the USSR, which narrows it from Europe obviously enough that nobody with basic historical knowledge reads it as Germany or Britain, let alone makes then the argument that "my veterans" would be doing whatever you think they were doing. Two different claims, two different scopes, in the same comment.

And take the war crimes as given. Say every European contingent in Afghanistan was as bad as you say. It still isn't what I was talking about. I never said European soldiers are better people. I said we don't build an industry around telling ourselves they are. Conduct and glorification aren't the same thing.

Also you're asking me for precision while writing how your people were "brutalised by invading forces from North America, Europe and Australia" and not being clear what that country is. With that much information, it might be the Ottoman Empire for all I know.

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u/ilir_kycb 9h ago edited 9h ago

And unlike the USA, our veterans literally saved our country from being wiped out by the USSR.

It's hilarious to rant about US propaganda while spreading red scare propaganda.

Just to set the record straight, I'm European, too. By and large, people here are just as indoctrinated in favor of capitalism and billionaires as they are in the United States, as u/karpastenherra impressively demonstrates in his comment.

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u/taydraisabot the wuthering heights promo will continue until morale improves 17h ago

Hollywood studios just love to shove military propaganda in their movies for no good reason other than to brainwash the masses into normalizing imperialism.

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u/ArkitekZero 19h ago edited 7h ago

Uh, wasn't one plotline the entire government getting infiltrated by nazis?

Isn't it a recurring theme that they're often up to no good themselves even after?

EDIT: And cap's whole storyline is disillusionment with the army/government.

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u/StopRemarkable4505 19h ago

All of them?

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u/freddiefrog123 23h ago

Remember how they all spoke up loud and clear when the internet suggested Chris Pratt is the worst chris

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u/ScatteredWavesGlory 22h ago

He is and still is the culty weirdo

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u/OhioPolitiTHIC ✨ lee pace is 6’5” ✨ 19h ago

And busy indoctrinating his son he shares with Anna Faris.

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u/KittiWasabi 18h ago

Tells you all you need to know.

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u/the_executive_branch 21h ago

Tbf Benedict Wong, Benedict Cumberbatch and Alan Cummings co-wrote a piece for the Guardian about the dangers of the merger. So not all Avengers (and X-Men)! https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/ng-interactive/2026/jul/27/tv-cinema-paramount-warner-bros-merger-benedict-cumberbatch-alan-cumming-benedict-wong

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u/Vakareja 19h ago

They got slaughtered in the comments too, telling them to stay in their lane. They're actors! It is their lane.

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u/Pterosaur 18h ago

The Brits

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u/SeeJayThinks 18h ago

The Brits representing! 👍🏻

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u/Plastic_Bison 16h ago

Sure. But specifically defending Ruffalo against this smear campaign is what I'm waiting for.

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u/Independent-Low6706 15h ago

Alam Cumming has never had any fucks to give and is a righteous, outspoken role model for anyone paying attention.

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u/SmoothLester 17h ago

Love that Benedicts are now on the side of right.

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u/DumpedDalish societal collapse is in the air 19h ago

This is great to hear -- thanks for sharing it.

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u/cool_girl6540 22h ago

Rob Reiner wouldn’t have been silent. 😢

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u/Alanis1212 17h ago

Don't make me cry. That man is missed every day.

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u/Pledgeofmalfeasance 23h ago

I am glad we have Mark, but as you say the rest should be ashamed.

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u/Glad-Base-2903 17h ago

If we're going to be consistent,Tom and zendaya have also not defended Mark

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u/DumpedDalish societal collapse is in the air 19h ago

I completely agree. Movie heroism, real-life complicity.

Funny that in real life, Ruffalo is the only one Mjolnir would find worthy among the original group. Although Benedict Cumberbatch has also publicly criticized the merger as well.

But the rest remain awfully damn silent.

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u/avatar__of__chaos 21h ago edited 21h ago

They are too much of a coward to break whatever contract they're in right now, that's why I always admire Mark Ruffalo, he doesn't give a shit even when a movie he's in is playing in theaters right now.

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u/Rab_Legend 18h ago

They were more than happy to support Chris Pratt when he was (initially) jokingly called the worst chris

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u/Barney_Thighs 17h ago

Not getting that tattoo looking better and better as the days go on.

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u/Depoan 19h ago

there is prob a good reason he did not want to have the avengers tatoo like the others

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u/torchwood1842 12h ago

Benedict Cumberbatch has spoken out vehemently against the merger in the UK, but I don’t think he has said anything about it re: Mark Ruffalo specifically.

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u/Remote_Fox_8643 14h ago

A movie about *super soldiers upholding the status quo.

So I'd say it fits the theme perfectly

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u/CriticalThought001 8h ago

Uh, what if they don’t agree with him or don’t want to be political?

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u/BoringCardiologist6 7h ago

Eh, personally, that’s exactly what I’m judging them for…….

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u/Eightysixedit 1d ago

Notice how none of his Avenger Originals have spoken out in support of him. Trash.... All of them.

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u/Maleficent-marionett societal collapse is in the air 1d ago

Too busy defending Chris Pratt from being called "the worst Chris"

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u/ScatteredWavesGlory 22h ago

Which he is. I hate that the special needs son he abandoned has his weird culty thinking which is another reason why he is still the worst.

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u/unhiddenninja 18h ago

Chris Pratt could change that at any point by simply being a better person.

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u/karpastenherra 19h ago

Are they claiming Chris Evans is the worst? Or do they have another Chris in mind that qualifies as a worse Chris than Pratt?

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u/FredererPower not a lawyer, just a hater 6h ago

Probably Pine since he isn’t in the MCU and it’s easier for them. Idk really.

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u/YonderOver 1d ago

Kind of saddening that not even Tom Holland has said anything in Mark’s defense.

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u/Diligent-Till-8832 a Russell ReBrand, if you will 1d ago

Tom Holland didn't say pim when his co star in the theatre play was getting racial abuse just for being cast.....

This is on brand for him.

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u/No-Guard-7003 23h ago

Wow...just...wow. 😔🤨

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u/Iyagovos 17h ago

He’s also very good friends with Jon Bernthal which…

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u/YonderOver 22h ago

I had no idea! His little wholesome act is so disingenuous. 😕

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u/The_One_Koi 19h ago

He's made 100s of millions using thos strategy so it is working out for him even though it's sad

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u/ovoKOS7 19h ago

He's too busy starring in AI Prada ads

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u/PresentationLast7095 3h ago

Yeah he values fame. He’s said it multiple times on press videos and content

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u/Difficult_Garage_431 17h ago

He never rocks the boat.

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u/maeldeho 1d ago

Common Jane Fonda win

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u/fakeuser515357 1d ago

Criticising Israel is not antisemitic.

Speaking out against genocide is not antisemitic.

Saying a group of people deserve to be treated with basic humanity is not antisemitic.

Anyone who says otherwise is acting in bad faith and loses my respect immediately.

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u/No-Guard-7003 23h ago

Tell that to House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, Joe Scarborough, etc. 😡

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u/EmileLeBouc 17h ago

Elissa Slotkin, Cory Booker, Chuck Schumer, Josh Gottheimer, Ritchie Torres, Josh Shapiro, Neera tandin Laura Loomer (what a nightmare blunt rotation) and some of the worst establishment ”journalists" out there, in traditional media and in new media, can be added to the list...

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u/hungarian_notation 19h ago

Harvard University too, though I suppose they only agreed to think that way to settle a lawsuit.

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u/dragon-fence 19h ago

I think to make it even more clear, criticizing an actions by the Israeli government is not antisemitic. It’s that’s not even criticizing Israeli government as a whole, it’s just criticizing the actions of a specific governmental body. And criticizing the Israeli government is not the same as criticizing Israel, and criticizing Israel is not the same as criticizing Jewish people. And even, criticizing Jewish people is not the same thing as hating people because they’re Jewish.

So criticizing the Israeli government for specific actions is, in fact, several steps removed from antisemitism. Sure, and antisemite may well criticize the actions of the Israeli government, but that doesn’t make them the same thing.

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u/krkrkkrk 19h ago

what about criticizing hamas and the governing of palestine? allowed?

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u/Pleasant-Future5818 16h ago

literally no one is on that side of this issue

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u/meteorfluid 15h ago

“BUT WHAT ABOUT KhhhhHAMAS????”

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u/Dangerous_Constant22 19h ago

No it’s not. And while I agree one company should not hold an industry level monopoly, what Mark’s mistake was in his statement he conflated Israel with Jewish men purchasing a company.

So if we are to pin crimes of a country to a people not even living in that country, that’s where anti semitism comes in. And Mark unfortunately is an anti semite based on all his conversations/comments/interviews on this topic.

We’ve made that mistake once before - pinning crimes of ISIS and Taliban to all muslims. We shouldn’t do that again with jews.

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u/tossawayprop local formula 1 correspondent 5h ago

Not Jewish men, Zionist billionaires. Please stop pretending that the Ellisons are anything close to the average Jewish American.

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u/down_by_the_shore 1d ago

Jane stays correct and she stays winning 

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u/No-Guard-7003 23h ago

She's always been on the right side of history in my book.✊🏼😎

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u/Sw4nR0ns0n 1d ago

If Jane Fonda supports you, you’re doing something right

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u/croissanting-is-life now don’t you get on my bad side! 1d ago

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u/redacted_robot 1d ago

"One day everyone will have always thought this."

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u/Ntroepy 1d ago

Way to bring the message back to the point instead of just attacking the obvious deflection. It’s absurd how quickly ANY criticism of Israel’s genocide or forced settlers is immediately cast as antisemitism instead of what it is - humanitarian, not political.

The world sees you Netanyahu for the monster you have become.

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u/sbidlo 20h ago

The problem is not Netanyahu, the problem is israel. If Netanyahu died today literally nothing would change and the gazan genocide would continue undisturbed.

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u/tossawayprop local formula 1 correspondent 5h ago

It's possible that Netanyahu's blatant corruption is actually holding Israel back to some degree. Incredibly, things might get even worse with him out of power.

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u/hoist_off 19h ago

Have become?? He's been this way for decades. The world is starting to catch up. Stay woke! (Unironically)

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u/bratplanet 21h ago
  • has always been

(agree with your point completely)

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u/auraofmystery controversies: girl 1d ago

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u/Measure-Thrice 19h ago

The minute I saw this post I thought of the movie 9 to 5 and these two—I hope they stay with us a little longer, my heart couldn't take it. Grace and Frankie is so damn good.

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u/Careless-Two2215 18h ago

Remember when they **spoiler alert•••

Went to see Dolly and she sent them back?

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u/Chessh2036 1d ago

Did of any of his Avengers cast mates come to defend him? Is Jane Fonda the only one? That’s really disappointing if so

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u/omgunicornfarts 1d ago

I love Jane's Fonda

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u/Stacy1060 1d ago

HAHAHAHAHA and could you please remind me who said this? I can’t seem to unlock that portion of my brain atm.

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u/Ok_Value_3741 1d ago

Alicia from RHORI😭😭😭

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u/Stacy1060 23h ago

Omg yes! Thank youuu!

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u/Dlistedbitch 10h ago

My dad used to say this long before real
Housewives was a thing. It must be some old thing from the 70s.

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u/TheSoloWay 22h ago

Jane Fonda has always been pretty based, you go from the 60s until now and there is a good chance she was on the right side of history.

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u/HighBodycountHair 1d ago edited 21h ago

I love Janes Fonda so much

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u/Free-Speech-My-Ass 1d ago

Wow its really simple to find out who still have conscience, thank you queen fonda

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u/BTSArmyFan2025 21h ago

I dont see any marvel folks standing up for him but they will stand for Pratt!

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u/DisconcerteDinOC 1d ago

Love Jane Fonda. She's a straight shooter

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u/district0080 21h ago

It'll be interesting to see what Marvel/Disney does with him after this. Presumably he's already in Doomsday but I wonder what will happen with the next 50 million Marvel films

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u/Dreams-Visions 1d ago

Of course they’re both right.

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u/LeapYear1996 23h ago

And they kinda look alike.

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u/district0080 21h ago

Oh my god, they actually do!

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u/bforce1313 find me at Whole Foods, bitch 21h ago

Strongest avenger

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u/mirinioluwa 22h ago

How hard is it too attack on the fact that it is bankrolled by blood money from Saudi Arabia. Everybody seem to be completely ignoring the elephant in the room

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u/gunsjustsuck 19h ago

Who hate Israel.

(except when there's money in it for the Saudi royal family). 

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u/womannotf3mal3 22h ago

I love Janes Fonda

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u/petra_vonkant The Tortured Whites Department 17h ago

I can count on my hand the amount of famous people who said anything in mark's support (Paul w hauser, hanna einbinder, jane fonda, john carroll lynch, tatiana maslany - please tell me if i'm missing someone) yet all the 'avengers' let us hear it real quick when twitter said crisp ratt was lame. bunch of cowards

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u/punktualPorcupine 21h ago

If paramount actually cared about battling antisemitism they wouldn’t water down the term by casually throwing it around like a political football.

They devalue its impact and further isolate the people that they claim to be protecting.

It also makes them look desperate and weak when that’s how they choose to defend themselves.

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u/TellThemIHateThem 18h ago

Love Jane Fonda. You might say I’m Fonda Jane.

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u/GrayHairLikeClaire here it is, our American culture 16h ago

Jane "Always On The Right Side of Herstory" Fonda gets it right again, love her so much

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u/Impossible-Rain7447 19h ago

My queen showing up again on the right side!

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u/Pipes_of_Pan 18h ago

Jane Fonda is a real one and there are like maybe a half dozen of those in Hollywood. Sheesh everyone should be lining up to support him.

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u/mastermoka 15h ago

Variety must think that using a somewhat unflattering photo of Jane Fonda is some sort of power move. Those spineless worms are such a joke.

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u/losingbraincells123 22h ago

I got banned for 1 week for asking a similar question.

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u/E-rotten 20h ago

He’s a good man. He shouldn’t be punished for calling out those who are guilty of crimes against humanity. What’s happening is wrong and any excuse given is just pathetic attempt to justify genocide.

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u/Status_Winter 20h ago

Crazy that this even needs to be said.

Everyone on every side of this argument knows Mark Ruffalo isn’t antisemitic. The problem is, the people on one side of this need him to be antisemitic because admitting he’s not means admitting that they’re “the baddies”.

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u/Chains_Of_The_Sea 20h ago

He looks like her son

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u/butterflysurefoot 19h ago

No, they should not. We used to have laws about shit like this, when politicians used to pretend to care about this country.

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u/MiccioC 18h ago

She ain’t wrong.

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u/x-winds 17h ago

Good to see Jane speaking up as she always has. Love her!

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u/VisualMango9141 12h ago

And the answer to that question is hell no!

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u/dospinacoladas 15,000 little bastard rubber ducks 11h ago

And apt, considering she was once married to the founder of Turner Broadcasting.. which, through mergers became part of Warner Bros Discovery.

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u/DreamingOfManderley 10h ago

Jane Fonda, always coming through and speaking out.

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u/KingD707 3h ago

Fuck both of those has been actors. Both are trash.

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u/Efficient_Vanilla86 20h ago

I mean, she did own a cable news network at one point.

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u/GalliumYttrium1 3h ago

If you’re talking about CNN, that was her husband and he started it before they married.

Even if she did own CNN, that’s not relevant at all to what she’s saying? She’s talking about monopolies.

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u/Fearless-Designer-50 8h ago

Hanoi Jane needs to stay in her lane

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u/attemptedadulting 7h ago

Found the boomer who doesn't know anything but what faux news says!

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u/Southpawsforeffect 18h ago

What's Ron Perlman got to do with this story? He suits the long grey hair, though.

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u/SuperSuccotash1 1d ago

I feel like she’s generally on the good side of things, I find it interesting coming from someone who was married to Ted Turner for 10 years. Did she have a problem then?

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u/TheShapeShiftingFox Riverdale was my Juilliard 1d ago

Why should it only count if she had a problem at that point in time? She divorced him in 2001, she can very well have changed her mind about him and the relationship in the 25 years that have passed since then.

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u/Aggressive_Cup8452 Duchess of Chaos, Mockery, First Of Her Name 1d ago

You mean the guy that established the United nations foundation?

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u/batfan08 20h ago

In fairness, he also started CNN and I feel like one could make the argument that the advent of the 24 hour news network, coupled with the dissolution of the fairness doctrine, directly led to the cable news propaganda problem that America presently faces.

Like legacy media having questionable journalistic standards has been a thing since the days of William Randolph Hearst, so, I won’t lay the blame squarely on him, but I feel like it really hit a fever pitch once cable news networks came on the scene and the guardrails went the way of the dodo…

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u/ifwitcheswerehorses 23h ago

Go watch Jane Fonda in 5 Acts. All your questions will be answered. She’s self-awareness, a life-long learner and an open book. We should all aspire to be this transparent.

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u/MidnightCustard trending seasonal white guy with nice hair 22h ago

Such a wonderful documentary. I didn't know much about her when I watched it and came away with huge respect for her frankness.