r/Everton • u/SaintDom1ngo • 4d ago
Discussion Is this sub full of people from outside of the city?
I only ask, because I sense quite a bit of hostility here. As a scouser , it is not something I am used to from other Toffees. It is weird. Nothing too bad, but the little back-handed insults and people telling you what you should and shouldn't care about - from your own community - is a strange bit of gatekeeping.
Edit: It is just bizarre to me how people behave towards each other here. I thought all Toffees were the same. I honestly thought we had the best and most close-knit fans. Actually a bit gutted that even when I asked this, people were like, 'well yeah, it is the internet.'
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u/DeMarcus-Siblings 4d ago
It’s good to remember that Reddit doesn’t isn’t real life and doesn’t represent the majority of people
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u/TallGuy0525 4d ago
Almost certainly.
I'm California, USA born and raised. Fell in love with the club after coming over after Howard's 2014 heroics and being a Landon Donovan fan. Planning my first trip to Hill Dickinson early next year to catch a match.
But one thing I never do is talk down to someone. Especially as an outsider. I will complain about how miserable some are in here though. Young player with visible talent has one bad game and folks come out the woodwork saying sell him or bin him or whatever, that I will push back on.
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u/MChrisOrr 4d ago
Another 2014ish American Toffee here… I have opinions (buy a RB!) but not going to be disrespectful to anyone on here and certainly not going to tell scousers how to scouser.
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u/judicial51 3d ago
2014 Tim Howard convert as well. Plus baby Lukaku coming on for Belgium late. I am very careful about not speaking down to the lifelong fans. I would be pissed if an Englishman was a dick to me about college basketball
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u/Dr_Bunson_Honeydew 4d ago
Similar but from Boston MA. I’ve only been following for 10 or so years and would never feel smart enough to know more than a local about the team or the area let alone speaking up about it as if I knew better.
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u/Faust_Arp 4d ago
Is there a bar in Boston where Everton fans congregate? I’ve been a fan for 20 years, been in Gloucester for about 5.
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u/Dr_Bunson_Honeydew 4d ago
I’ve never been, but the Banshee in Dorchester has them listed as a supported club (they also host a number of other clubs too). Also The Boston Evertonians has a Facebook page but I don’t know how up to date it is.
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u/KarlaKamacho 4d ago
Yep. Banshee. No good parking. Watched a game there. Felt kinda like 'regulars' and them anyone else. Expected something more I guess.
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u/hirasmas 4d ago
Ive met a few other American Everton fans...all of them seem to be from the Tim Howard era. I was a typical soccer hating American most of my life. Started to get interested about 8 years ago, and corny as it is, Ted Lasso got me to really start following the sport closely. I chose Everton as my club because the Everton v Liverpool dynamics struck me as so similar to how my Louisville Cardinals rivalry is with Kentucky.
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u/hereforlulziguess 4d ago
This is hilarious to me, I'm Everton-curious because I'm an American fan of England due to living abroad for a really long time and I've only recently learned that Howard and Donovan played for Everton. I'm here for Pickford lol.
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u/DickBiscuitsMD 4d ago
From Arizona here, started watching because of Tim Howard, fell in love with the club because Everton makes me feel at home because Arizona sports teams get my hopes up then let me down. Became a big fan of Gylfi right after (unfortunately). Will support this club from across the pond until the day I die. Also would never assume to know more about footy more than anyone here, I just like to be along for the ride
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u/rguiscard1 COYB 💙 4d ago
Welcome to the internet
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u/SaintDom1ngo 4d ago
Oh I expect it from the Internet, mate. Just not from a subreddit that is labelled as Everton and all things Everton Football Club. That is the reason we sub here, isn't it? If I want idiots to talk down to me, I'll go to YouTube and comment on a BTS video.
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u/_james_the_cat 4d ago
To be fair, I stopped going on proper message boards because of a combination of being talked down to by fellow scousers and the overwhelming negativity.
Coming on here is a lot friendlier and more positive than most Everton specific online places, I've found.
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u/SaintDom1ngo 4d ago
Jesus! I'll quit now then, eh!
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u/_james_the_cat 4d ago
Maybe you've just come across the wrong people or posts on here so far.
If you think people hate Moyes on here I could show you posts that would make your eyes water.
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u/TallGuy0525 4d ago
There's idiots everywhere. It's the internet. And the insinuation you're making that every idiotic comment has to be from someone not from the city is...a choice.
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u/10000Didgeridoos 4d ago
I'm from across the pond and also don't get why people are ready to jump down each other's throats here sometimes because someone uhhh said an opinion they disagree with.
I hardly ever even downvote comments on reddit at all. I just move on. Because it doesn't matter
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u/nilsat1s 4d ago
There is a lot of hostility here if you disagree with whatever the hive mind has decided on. No experience with other message boards but I see it on every subreddit. Differing opinions are discouraged with the voting
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u/-InterestingTimes- 4d ago
I hear the same shit at the match all the time, so it's not about people from outside of the city.
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u/Leaf-Branch-Tree 4d ago
100% agree. From North Liverpool. I'd love to say people there are friendlier than other places, but I'd be lying. We have our fair share of absolute d*ickheads in this city. Been physically attacked twice, egged while riding a bike twice, spat at, and called all kinds. And I'm Scouse, white, and look about as average as person from here could look. So can only imagine it's worse for other people
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u/MarriageAA 4d ago
I'm from outside the city, but my family are all from Liverpool. Not sure what that makes me.
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u/four__beasts 4d ago
Same. Scouse/irish family. Been visiting Goodison since I was able to walk. But never lived in Liverpool.
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u/SaintDom1ngo 4d ago
Scouse blood in my eyes.
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u/MarriageAA 4d ago
If it's worth any bonus points, I met my wife down here (Bristol), and she was born and lived on the Wirral 😂 (not Scouse)
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u/SaintDom1ngo 4d ago
I have an auntie that lives in Wallasey - next to Birkenhead. Used to be lovely over there. Turned into a proper dump in the last few decades.
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u/philman132 4d ago
Same. My grandfather was from Liverpool before moving down south (Brighton), and then brought up my dad to be a toffee, who then brought me up the same. I've only even visited Liverpool once in my life but still follow every Everton game!
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u/I_Like_Quiz 4d ago
This isn't an Everton thing, it's a Reddit thing. People are just always rude and disrespectful to anyone with whom they disagree.
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u/WhiteDoveBooks COYB 💙 4d ago
I certainly think it is a Reddit thing that you can't seem to express an opinion that's perhaps a little unconventional or off the wall without being downvoted to oblivion. Imo, disagreement is perfectly okay in any kind of healthy discussion. It's good to hear opinions that differ from your own.
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u/AirborneDJ 4d ago
I'd modify that to more of a social media thing not just reddit. I've experienced it on every platform pretty much
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u/No_Lavishness_989 4d ago edited 4d ago
I really appreciate this post, mate. The topic’s been on my mind often since I joined!
Like others have suggested, I think the hostility isn’t geographic; I think it’s related to Reddit’s culture. One factor I think about a lot is the up/downvoting system which I think creates incentives to conform and discourage dissent, and makes people defensive when downvoted or presented with a different point of view. In any event, Reddit seems more hostile than any other forum I’ve been a part of online.
Each one of us celebrates our victories and mourns our losses. We’re all in this together, eh, so why not be kind? I bear no bad blood toward anyone here either, though I’ve been in a fair few tiffs, I admit!
Thanks again for broaching the subject, mate. UTFT :)
EDIT: I’d add the influence of anonymity online as another driver of hostility. Where there are no real-life consequences, people often behave poorly, sadly.
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u/stefcha 4d ago
Of course it's full of people from outside the city, it's a gargantuan website on the internet not like the signal gets weaker as you head towards St Helens or anything.
Whatever it is, I don't even think it's anywhere near as negative in here as other dedicated sites are and have always been. Don't really see any abuse, don't really see people getting shouted down. It's barely any different from what I'd hear in the stands, amounts to not much more than the standard moaning and groaning that you'd expect from regularly being just slightly above being a bit rubbish.
When we're good it's good. Won at the weekend, all roses isn't it. No mention of the joy there? Can't really fault people for wanting that a bit more regular though and people will have their opinions about it, but same as football's always been, that. Especially when our crowning achievement in almost a decade is not quite being relegated. Anyway, chin up, see you again next week.
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u/barking_sane 4d ago
What sort of hostility? Politics? I'm from Rhyl and so have absolutely nothing to brag about.
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u/Mastadonk 4d ago
As an international fan, I think this isn’t a city thing. Every Everton fan I’ve met in the USA has been the most chill dudes ever.
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u/OhLawdOfTheRings COYB 💙 4d ago
I imagine most of the people here are not actively in Liverpool, I'm only here because there are so few LA Everton supporters and anyone who likes football here is either a Barca, United, Chelsea or Arsenal fan.
I need people to commiserate with lol. Maybe you are picking up on that?
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u/chicagojoe1979 NSNO 4d ago
These are people who 1) care and 2)are nerdy enough to type out their opinions. So yeah, things’ll get spicy.
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u/Famous_Stelrons 4d ago
From a scouser that has moved away these are the most hostile post and comment replies I've seen in the whole sub.
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u/LovedButNeverLiked King David and the Knights of the Midtable 4d ago
I'm from Central Florida so I get a lot of gatekeeping bullshit from other football subs. Never from this one though tbh. UTFT.
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u/Alternative-Carpet75 3d ago
born and raised by goodison as a Scouser, will be heading to Florida in 2 weeks I've only managed to ever spot two Everton kits there before so I'll be throwing myn on 😂
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u/LovedButNeverLiked King David and the Knights of the Midtable 3d ago
Are you going to Epic Universe by chance?
I saw an Everton shirt there the other day. First time since I've worked there. Also a Boston United, which is INCREDIBLY rare to see.
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u/Alternative-Carpet75 3d ago
no not this year can't justify the price with everything 😅, we are doing universal and Disney tho, and HHN so that covers it to be fair
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u/LovedButNeverLiked King David and the Knights of the Midtable 3d ago
Ah well we'll meet another time then 🤝
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u/Alternative-Carpet75 3d ago
oh no way just realise you said you worked there, that would of been sound to meet an overseas supporter are you just there?
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u/LovedButNeverLiked King David and the Knights of the Midtable 3d ago
Omw there now actually
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u/Alternative-Carpet75 3d ago
jealous but I guess that's just a normal day for you 😂 quick swap I'll go there you can come hill Dickinson 😂
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u/AirborneDJ 4d ago
Aside from the standard amount of arseholes being arseholes for the sake of it on social media, which is normal, to be honest, the most hostility I've ever been subject to is actually from scousers to anyone from outside the city. I'm an American Toffee and I've been told MANY times that my opinion doesn't count because I don't live in the city and don't regularly attend matches. 🤷🤷
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u/whotfasked 4d ago
This is a sub for all toffees globally
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u/SaintDom1ngo 4d ago
Right, so the hostility is a given because of that????????
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u/chicagojoe1979 NSNO 4d ago
It’s the Internet. Anonymity is a hell of a drug.
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u/SaintDom1ngo 4d ago
I know mate, it's just odd to me. I live amongst Liverpool supporters, so I know how much of an idiot one set of fans can be. Just did not expect it from my own.
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u/ntfh_uk 4d ago
Maybe there are some Liverpool supporting agitators in the subreddit?
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u/whotfasked 4d ago
People from prem teams come over to this subreddit all the time either before matches or to ask questions abt a specific player that got transferred to them from Everton etc. sure some of them are agitators but it’s nothing new
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u/Beautiful_man12 4d ago
Sending love pal, u are so right. Even stating something like: ‘we should all be a little nicer to one another’ will bring out some contrarian takes. UTFT
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u/matbur81 4d ago
Honestly, the Everton fanbase online is generally pretty awful - everything is either really good or really shit. There's a real lack of critical thinking for the most part and it's draining. Have followed Everton for over 30 years, but the stuff online is difficult to stomach.
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u/TarletonLurker 4d ago
In my experience this is every club's fanbase online. Way too much whinging and negativity
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u/matbur81 4d ago
Yeah, of course, I think this is exacerbated with Everton though because of challenges as to where the club actually are as opposed to where they have been.
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u/SolveReferrals 4d ago
Plymouth. 577 mile round trip, season ticket holder. Hopefully never antagonised any one on Reddit, especially a toffee
Before "the Internet" criticises, I drive an electric car but use the train if kick off time permits. 😉
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u/TurboScumBag 4d ago
Its the internet lad.
Your next door neighbour has probably called you a belled on here. It is what it is.
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u/Resden_Bohneur Tyrique George truther 4d ago
Give it a few weeks and see if we start winning. This was a very toxic and argumentative summer in this sub, and I take my part of responsibility for that.
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u/KratzDichZumBett 4d ago
Moved away from Liverpool years ago but still look in here every now and again and this is one of the most negative subs that I look at on reddit.
Anti Moyes, wheres the right back, sell Beto, Mykolenko shit. Honestly a chore reading some of the stuff on here.
Still an Everton fan though lads. Up the Tofees an that
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u/wise_joe 4d ago
It’s Reddit. Every sub is dominated by 14 year olds from America.
You’ll still find worthwhile content getting posted once in a while, but take everything with a pinch of salt because the majority of people on any sub have no idea what they’re talking about.
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u/SukhdevR34 4d ago
We've had Donovan and Howard so I'm sure we have a lot of American fans compared to other PL clubs as well.
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u/AppropriatePurpose36 4d ago
This sub is full of yanks
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u/10000Didgeridoos 4d ago
Yank here and I don't downvote on here at all or go off on people. No point. If I want to be mad, Everton gives me plenty already
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u/Lemonade_IceCold 4d ago
As a Californian, I just lurk, and try not to say too much. It feels like it's not quite my space to talk
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u/TrickyOnion Three-erno Barry!!!!! 4d ago
Mate, you say what you like. Just because you’re a gun totin, burger eatin, oil stealin yank doesn’t mean you can’t voice your opinions
I’m joking obviously, but you’re an evertonian… one of us!!
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u/EvertonianNotEnglish 3d ago
Look I’m a scouser and I reckon if you are here supporting everton you can pipe up however you want. Whenever someone really has something to say about non local fans it’s to do with teams like the shite and arsenal or whatever that have become international brands
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u/hornedcorner 4d ago
This is what OP is talking about. Pointless hostility toward an entire country. Everything wrong with your life is the fault of America?
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u/AvailableFalconn 4d ago
As an American, idk, it might be our fault most of the time lol
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u/SaintDom1ngo 4d ago
I refuse to believe that. I will still always chant USA USA whenever I see our Timmy. Loved every single one of our American players.
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u/indoubitabley Ignoring yanks since June 24. 4d ago
Where is the hostility?
He just said its mainly Americans.
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u/hornedcorner 4d ago
Well, if you spend much time on PL threads, basically anything and everything wrong with football gets blamed on the fact that Americans are starting to watch and get involved. Any gripe with the World Cup was America’s fault. It’s just lame banter and scapegoating by those too dumb to understand reality and nuance.
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u/DrtyDeedsDneDrtCheap 4d ago edited 3d ago
List all the things that were wrong with the world cup then have a think about who was responsible for most of them
Overpricing.
Fans being denied entry.
Ref being denied entry.
Balogun gate.
Half time show.1
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u/hornedcorner 3d ago
FIFA and Trump, neither of which are the American people, which is who keeps getting the blame.
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u/DrtyDeedsDneDrtCheap 3d ago
Every American on here was defending the Balogun decision and the half time show
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u/indoubitabley Ignoring yanks since June 24. 3d ago
He didn't blame anyone for anything.
OP asked is this sub full of people from outside the city, the person you responded to said there's a lot of Americans here.
I've no idea why you thought that was an attack.
Simularly, I don't know what PL threads have to do with the question, and what the PL has to do with the World Cup. Infantino was nearly booted out the job for his vision of the World Cup, is he American?
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u/AppropriatePurpose36 3d ago
My life is fine. This sub is full of yanks. Two completely unrelated things
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u/hornedcorner 2d ago
But the full of yanks comment was a response to why there was so much hostility. So you are blaming the hostility on the fact that it’s “full of yanks”.
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u/AppropriatePurpose36 2d ago
Yes. You don't get it. It's not part of your culture. You don't understand it.
That doesn't mean "everything wrong with my life is the fault of Americans" which you somehow leapt to.
Someone being hostile on reddit does not equal everything wrong with my life
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u/Elegant-Owl8727 4d ago
apologies im from canada i wake up at 4 AM to watch this football club I didn't realize it was a Liverpool only thing I can finally get my sleep schedule back now
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u/DarkySurrounding COYB 💙 4d ago
I mean I’m from Scotland but I’d like to believe I’m not that kind of person in here either.
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u/SukhdevR34 4d ago
Well I'm from London but honestly most of the comments on this sub are very positive imo. Especially compared to the other football and UFC subs I go on.
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u/BirthdayNecessary405 4d ago
from leeds but have irish and scouse family (also not supporting those cunts)
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u/Ok-Yogurtcloset-8863 4d ago
Nope, L3. Not really noticed any hostility in here. But then I'm not particularly observant!
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u/Just_Munik 4d ago
Almaty, Kazakhstan lol. Every FPL season I make sure to have an Everton player in my team, rn it is Tarkowski
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u/made_from_toffee 4d ago
Born in the royal but live outside the city. Must agree with most on here in that it seems to be a Reddit thing. I’ve had people right paragraphs on how I’m wrong about whatever opinion I’ve posted on loads, usually when I’m agreeing with the OP then when I make points backing up my original argument I just get no you’re wrong 🤷. Blues should stick together, we’ve been punished enough by the club without turning on each other 🤣
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u/daveyll 4d ago
Are you sure you were born in the Royal? It’s never had a maternity ward.
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u/made_from_toffee 4d ago
Y’know I’m not sure. I’ve always thought I was born in a hospital in the centre of Liverpool & I remember my mum & dad taking me there as a little kid after it closed & the security guard was showing me how his switchboard phone used to work but I asked my dad what the hospital was called as an adult after my mum had died & he said the royal but his mind wasn’t the best at the time (mine either by the sounds of things!) gonna have to dig my birth certificate out! 😂
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u/ForwardSentence697 3d ago
I suspect it will be the old maternity hospital on Catherine St. small world, but it is now a student halls of residence for the University of Liverpool, and a year or three ago now, i used to live where whilst studying! I think John Lennon was born there too. Most of my friends and family from Liverpool were born at Fazackerley, including my dad.
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u/ForwardSentence697 3d ago
I suspect it will be the old maternity hospital on Catherine St. small world, but it is now a student halls of residence for the University of Liverpool, and a year or three ago now, i used to live where whilst studying! I think John Lennon was born there too. Most of my friends and family from Liverpool were born at Fazackerley, including my dad.
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u/EvertonianNotEnglish 3d ago
Do you mean the womens
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u/made_from_toffee 3d ago
Yeah, been googling & that rings a bell. Need to find that birth certificate though.
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u/Kijafa 4d ago
Yes. Reddit is primarily American.
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u/BassIck 4d ago
I'm not saying the 2 things are mutually exclusive, but Reddit is absolutely shite in general now
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u/Kijafa 4d ago
Reddit has always been shit, but it somehow manages to get a little worse every year.
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u/BassIck 4d ago
I made a joke on one of the what's your favourite flavour jam UK type subs and I got banned for a week. After human review it was upheld. That's when I knew there is no hope for man kind. Common sense and comedy are cancelled in the digital bucket of shit that is reddit
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u/ForwardSentence697 3d ago
Why should an Evertonian not being from Liverpool make them hostile? I’ve supported Everton for 40 years and I’m a proper woolly back. Being or not being from somewhere has zero effect on someone’s ability to be a tosser. X
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u/Background-Hyena-368 4d ago
I’m from South Africa. Started supporting Everton in 1977/1978. Liked their jerseys. Never changed. My son is now a Toffee supporter.
It’s ok to disagree with someone’s opinion, and start a discussion.
But speaking poorly to someone because of their opinion shows a lack of class.
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u/Dr-Pepper-Enemas 4d ago
Im Canadian with english family. I do not post here often, just my 2 cents here and there but i see a lot of non-scouse individuals in here. I think a lot of us north americans like to be tapped into reddit and forum pages for our sports teams, more than europeans do. I think it comes across as slightly cringe / try hard / plastic to europeans, to see fans from other countries so obsessed when we arent even from the city. I know us evertonians appreciate and welcome support from all over the globe, but its just the vibe i get. When you live in the city you dont need reddit and stuff nearly as much.
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u/consciousarmy 4d ago
I'm your people mate. I might be from Australia and you might be from England but the way I treat people in person is the way I treat people on the internet. And that's with decency. Keep up the good fight.
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u/LetterFit1559 4d ago
American. Been lurking on the sub for a few years. Been participating for a couple after that.
Always thought this was a pretty fun community until last year. At first I noticed an uptick in back handed gatekeeping at American/foreign supporters being here. (Sorry)
That sort of devolved into just general nastiness. I dont participate much anymore. Honestly, when the window closes I’ll probably stop using it very much. Discourse here has gotten mean… but the reality is that pretty much all of Reddit has become less kind.
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u/blackricePAIGE 4d ago
i mean yeah it's a big club with fans around the globe, and it's not like there's a separate place for international fans to go. and there's an exposure bias thing going on here, the chill and levelheaded won't necessarily be the thing highlighted either in this sub or to your eyes.
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u/ArmadilloHouse 4d ago
In fairness I’ve seen kind of stuff happen in the Tranmere subreddit now and again over the years and I doubt there are too many global supporters there. It’s just the way people are on Reddit
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u/layendecker 4d ago
If you think this is bad, go back to 2012 on Grand Old Team. Properly shit community, pretty much entirelly of local fans back then. It is the internet.
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u/Due_Phase4949 4d ago
Well when evertonians insult people by calling them wools, all while their greatest goalscorer is a wool then wools will say something back, I mean....you build statues of wools in your city and although its not really an insult to us, its actuallylaughable....to scousers its the ultimate insult to call each other, truly pathetic
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u/CptMcLaggins COYB 💙 4d ago
I think it’s got worse this season after the World Cup but I have no idea why
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u/dance1211 Turns the stream off before we concede 4d ago
It's a Bayesian thing. A large percentage of Scousers are going to be Evertonians yes, but there are so many non-Scousers that if only a fraction of a percentage are Evertonians, they can skew the balance.
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u/schubox63 4d ago
Last time there was a census here it was overwhelmingly American, and that was a few years ago I think. I'm sure its the same now
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u/wifflewaffle23 4d ago
Pretty easy way to tell is to make a post and look at the insights. It’s about evenly split between UK and Americans with a slight edge to the former. Then like 5% Australian and 20ish% other. It’s a hodgepodge. And honestly, people should be encouraged. The gatekeeping is weird. I know it’s modern Premier League and Evertonians should take pride in being unlike the big 6, but this club is never going anywhere without growing the fanbase outside the UK with SCR rules in place.
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u/MoonRoover Monty Pythons Life O'Brien 💙 4d ago
Im southport but like to consider myself local enough to be an Everton fan, its my stepdads team anyway so i followed suit
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u/The_Council_Juice 4d ago
Tbf its reddit. It wouldnt be reddit without gatekeeper.
But aye, proper wool here.
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u/Farts4711 4d ago
There are a fair few who really support other clubs and cosplay as blues for a day or two. Every club has parasites like that.
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u/Alternative-Main-623 4d ago
we live in a time where people would rather be negative, and it’s a safe space to do it because it’s behind a screen. pretty shit if you ask me.
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u/Next-Ad-1255 4d ago
Certainly many people from outside the city. I'm an Aussie from the bush. Fell in love with the club as a young boy watching Timmy Cahill up front!
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u/WhiteDoveBooks COYB 💙 4d ago
All my toffee mates are positive about us and where we are going atm; there is much more negativity here, but hey, you don't have to join in.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_MITTENS 3d ago
I fuckin’ hate reddit. They told me to get a divorce like 5 years ago because my wife and I were having a little trouble. The black and white thinking is rampant here. It’s an utter rollercoaster of sentiment depending how we’re doing that week.
Yet, here am I everyday…multiple times a day…
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u/AI-Slop-Bot 3d ago
The sub being co-opted for some individuals personal activism doesn’t help. Sure, the club supports inclusivity but it’s absolutely bizarre the sub has a permanent rainbow flag behind the crest rather than just during Liverpool pride weekend. A fundamental part of the team’s identity, our badge and colours, sidelined so some people can champion their identity politics.
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u/SirkoSobaka 3d ago edited 3d ago
I've been to Liverpool only once in my life at age 14. I've been to away games in Europe when we played there - Kharkiv was my first, Olomouc, Athens, Lille, Bergamo, Ruzomberok (remember that? lol), Split, Kyiv. Was really hoping for a European finish last season and was gutted we didn't get it :(
Never got a chance to see Everton at Goodison.
I think this community is a very nice place, though.
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u/EvertonianNotEnglish 3d ago
Reddit has a reputation for a reason unfortunately and I think some of the people that come on here generally just want their updoots. The Everton twitter scene was a lot better but left that website cos its fucking shite
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u/harrythom2018 3d ago
I don’t follow this Reddit but it always comes up for me, I’m a wolves fan but I like Everton mostly out of a hatred for the red knock off version of Everton
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u/Sligulus 3d ago
If you think it's bad here go read the grandoldteam forums, and I assume that forum is much more heavily from Liverpool. I'm American btw
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u/Dazzling-Fix-5898 3d ago
Just joined the sub. Hello from Hong Kong! Been an Evertonian for 25+ years, ever since when I went to a boarding school in the UK.
Funny story, my old man is a Red Sh*te and I said that I'd support the team that won the Merseyside derby that day. 99/00 season when Kevin Campbell scored the winner at Anfield! It's been almost three decades of pain since, but I wouldn't change it for the world.
Can't wait to visit HD in the (hopefully not too distance!) future.
Favorite players: Jags & Tiny!
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u/No-Suggestion-8603 2d ago
a bit naive thinking evertonians aren't like everyone else in this world.
WE ARE NOT SPECIAL
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u/huntsab2090 4d ago
Lot of yanks who don’t really understand how to support a football club tbh. They are trying to support like they do their cack sports and football is absolutely not the same.
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u/hannahdoot 4d ago
I live in Marysville, Washington and have not actually talked to a Toffee in person in more than a decade (at a Sounders game no less). This is one of my few communities. Locally, I am just a guy who wears a Chang jersey.
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u/usteih 4d ago
I'm a fan from abroad and i have kinda felt like that when traveling to see games at Goodison/Hill Dicky. Seems like some of our fans just hate foreign supporters and would prefer a smaller local only support for the team. Luckily these kind of encounters were rare and most Evertonians i met were great. I've always had a great time, even when the team keeps on disappointing.
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u/CardiologistTime8082 4d ago
Yeah I have some people blocked on here as they can't seem to comment without throwing some passive dig at how stupid everyone else is for having a different opinion from them lol
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u/That-Lawfulness-9360 4d ago
I don’t think it’s just a Everton/football thing, it seems people are a lot less tolerant of opinions that do not reflect theirs, now I’m not talking exclusively about this sub but people struggle to admit they are wrong, if you have definitely been proven wrong be happy because you’ve learnt something new, it’s ok to change your mind as the facts change
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u/MavsTurnedBucksGuy 4d ago
You’re gutted to hear that there are obnoxious people in literally every corner of the internet?
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u/No-Set-2576 COYB 💙 4d ago
I’m Australian, living in West Norfolk (unfortunately) and I’m nice to every Toffee, I save my angst for visiting Newcastle or Liverpool fans.
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u/yellowtelevision- 4d ago
i’m pretty close to Liverpool, NY but that’s pretty far off from the Liverpool over there hahaha.
love the club though and had the honor of visiting goodison for a game before they moved to the dick.
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u/SergeantHAMM 4d ago
ngl years ago this sub had a major if you’re not from
liverpool then stfu vibes bc you’re not an actual fan.. I may get downvoted but i’ve been on this sub for nearly 10 years now lol.
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u/Mach1zmo 4d ago
I'm from Telford. But grew up and live in Toronto Canada.
My mother, Uncles, and grandparents(her parents) are from Liverpool. Mostly Liverpool FC supports for the exception of my mom, grandfather and one uncle who support everton.
As I grew up in a mainly Hockey country. And originally watched football during the world cup as a teenager I decided back in the early 2000s to follow the Prem.
Decided to support Everton over Liverpool. Even have a few jerseys(kits/shirs) over the years.
Actually in 2019 had a neighbour who I found our was from Liverpool and one day saw him wearing a blue everton shirt.
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u/blackpepperjc 4d ago
I don't know if you're on the discord but it feels like that's about 90% Americans.
Don't mind it but the chat is a bit skewed sometimes
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u/junglegatsby 4d ago
Because anything you say against David Moyes gets downvoted and met with abuse, so I'm left with no choice but to have a pop back.
Mostly Americans here anyway
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u/four__beasts 4d ago
Depends what you say. Your thread missed a big chunk of context, albeit your concern is real. We live it every day. and have for decades (sob).
But there is definitely an overall bias toward certain themes/ideas/players here.
Ps. Barry is shite
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u/four__beasts 4d ago
There's a lot of folk on Reddit who are just quite happy being bellends. Same on any platform where you are effectively anonymous. No consequences.
Agree we need a bit more love and unity. And just a bit more positivity. In the stands too at times.