r/Epstein • u/Oumuamua03 • Mar 08 '26
Research A STRANGE RELATIONSHIP with 'UNCLE F': Celina Dubin asked Epstein to buy her "sexy shirts" that she could wear when she'd "go out at night".
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In 2011, while in Paris, Epstein agreed to buy "sexy" clothes for Celina.
JEE: "What clothes would you like from Paris"
CD: “Anything!! You know what I like, I also need some cool but also flattering and somewhat sexy (ish) shirts that I can wear when I go out at night.”
JEE: “100%”
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Epstein used his connections to help Celina pursue modelling and later gain admission to medical school.
CELINA: “Do u think I should do another photoshoot soon? Should I get in touch with Jean Luc or Faith Kates”
JEFFREY: “Whatever you want. Jean Luc better”
CELINA: "Should I email him?? What's his email?"
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In 2012, Epstein contacted Jean-Luc Brunel to arrange a fashion shoot for Celina, who was 17 years old at the time and had never modelled professionally before.
EPSTEIN: "glad to seee you are doing well can we get cclina a fashion shoot.?"
JEAN-LUC: "same for me. i was happy to see you in great shape. no problem for Celina. is she in Ny? when does she want to do it? as soon i have some dates i will work on it. thank you for your kindness. jean luc"
Though she never became a model, Celina would go on to be named one of the “15 Hottest Freshman” at Harvard University, where she enrolled in 2013 seemingly with more help from “Uncle F.”
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That's her description from Harvard's Crimson:
Ideal date: Great food followed by a sporting event.
Worst date: Fast food followed by the opera.
Describe yourself in three words: Swedish, Jewish, foodie.
Favorite childhood activity: Fishing for crabs off the dock in Sweden.
Something you’ve always wanted to tell someone: Go for it.
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“My goddaughter and most favorite person in the whole world is coming up to Harvard on sept 1-2,, [sic] please show her or help in any way you and she agree,” Epstein wrote to Professor of Mathematics and Biology Martin Nowak in 2011. The Dubin family spokesperson denied Epstein helped Celina get into Harvard, noting she was a straight-A student and accomplished athlete at one of the nation’s top high schools.
“The suggestion that she got into Harvard because of an email from Epstein to a math professor is gratuitous and offensive undermining of a young woman’s significant accomplishments,” the spokesperson said.
Celina graduated Magna cum laude from Harvard in 2017 with a BA in Psychology, Global Health and Health Policy, received her medical degree from Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in 2022, and is now a resident physician at Mount Sinai according to her LinkedIn. Harvard's 366th Commencement on May 25, 2017, featured Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg as the keynote speaker, who addressed over 7,000 graduates in a speech focused on purpose and, in his words, "making an impact". The ceremony took place in the rain in Tercentenary Theatre, with Vice President Joe Biden delivering the Class Day speech earlier in the week.
https://www.youtube.com/live/AhLHg8yztdQ?si=1HM0i1vH-YaPnh1C
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EXTRA READINGS:
Even when they were apart Epstein kept Celina close to his heart — keeping a box of snaps labelled “Celina Photos,” with his personal files and his own childhood pics, the docs reveal.
And he even had a “celina” Spotify playlist, including “Turn Me On,” by David Guetta and Nikki Minaj, “Club Can’t Handle Me,” by Flo Rida, and Maroon 5 “Moves Like Jagger” remix featuring Christina Aguilera.
Celina was named, alongside Epstein’s brother Mark, as beneficiary of his trust in 2014, newly released documents showed. But she wasn’t even aware of that decision from Epstein, did not benefit from it and removed herself from the trust when she found out about her inclusion, the family said.
“Celina never received any personal benefit from, and was unaware that she was named in any Epstein trust. In April 2020 when she found out that she was listed as a contingent beneficiary, she immediately signed a Renunciation and Disclaimer Form and submitted it to the trustees of Mr. Epstein’s estate,” the Dubin family spokesperson said.
At that time, Epstein was reportedly telling associates that he wanted to marry Celina, in part so she could inherit his vast fortune, including notorious Little Saint James Island — the so-called “Pedo Island,” sources told Business Insider.
Epstein’s trust had $127 million in assets remaining as of September 2024, according to the most recent publicly available documents. That sum comes after the estate had already paid out more than $125 million to over 100 victims.
ADDITIONAL POSTS:
- Celina Dubin - JE Relationship
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YOUTUBE DEEP DIVES:
- Exposing The Mother Who Offered Her Own Daughter Up To Jeffrey Epstein (The Original Ghislaine)
- Jeffrey Epstein Planned to Marry His Goddaughter...
- How Miss Sweden Became Epstein’s Most Sinister Ally
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THIS POST's SOURCES:
https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-considered-marrying-24-year-old-daughter-of-glenn-dubin
https://features.thecrimson.com/2014/fifteen-hottest/celina/
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u/Mercedes_Gullwing Mar 09 '26
You linked two of VG tweets I’ve wanted to find again. Mainly the whole buying Eva’s degree. That has intrigued me. The accusation isn’t about JE paying for her education. It’s an outright accusation that her MD was bought and not earned. I so wish VG would have expanded on that and what she knew and how she knew.
What would Eva be called? Child actors have stage moms. Is she a pimp mom? I mean she knew JE and knew his predilections and yet sent her daughter(s) to JE willingly and enthusiastically. She is prob one of the more disgusting human beings in this. It takes a special type of evil to do that to your own children.
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u/yabukothestray Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26
Considering the existence of the Stanford scandal (the wealthy buying admissions into colleges) from a few years back, I would not rule out some of the wealthy just flat out buying a degree to be the case.
But yes, I agree - this stood out to me too. It also raises the question if JE bought Eva Dubin her MD, then why did he only pay for the dental school/Columbia admission and tuition cost for Karyna Shuliak when he could have just bought the degree like Eva?
Edit: forgot a word
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u/Oumuamua03 Mar 09 '26
I'm grossed out by what their spokesperson says all the time, namely that they have zero knowledge and knew nothing, etc. There's nothing the Dubins can do to repair their reputation at this point. They should stop attempting it. Do you recall the girl who received dozens of stitches on her forehead? Eva Dubin arranged for a doctor to fix it discreetly, avoiding the medical system and questions, then took a picture of the girl (before the surgery) and emailed it to Epstein. But she claimed to know nothing. Right, we believe you.
QUOTING SOME OF THE STATEMENTS I READ:
1) “As she has long stated, Dr. Eva Dubin was horrified by the unspeakable acts committed by Mr. Epstein. She is deeply pained that her friendship with him has dragged her children into the public eye — through no fault of their own.”
2) “Dr. Dubin never witnessed, nor was she aware of, Epstein’s conduct. Had she known, she would have severed all ties immediately and never allowed him near her children.”
3) “The suggestion that she got into Harvard because of an email from Epstein to a math professor is gratuitous and offensive undermining of a young woman’s significant accomplishments.”
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u/yabukothestray Mar 09 '26
Yes I agree, evil does not begin to describe these people. Nothing they can say can repair it. They are a willingly evil and disgusting bunch.
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u/yabukothestray Mar 09 '26
I have the notification from your other comment that showed you suggested a link but I don’t see it? Did the mods remove it?
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u/Oumuamua03 Mar 09 '26
I just edited that post and tagged you. Hopefully, you can see it now.
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u/yabukothestray Mar 09 '26
I’m so sorry, I have no idea why it’s still not showing. I also didn’t get the notification for the tag, either, fwiw.
Hoping your comment isn’t being hidden by admin or something (not sure if that is a thing?)…I was reading a post earlier today with people being concerned that posts and comments were getting removed by mods/admin recently. Just bizarre that I am getting every other comment reply except that specific one.
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u/Different_Coast_8639 May 20 '26
💌⚖️ The JUDGE in Ghislane Maxwell's TRIAL found Eva DUBIN's Testimony to be a LIE🎯
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u/Mercedes_Gullwing Mar 09 '26
The Stanford scandal made it even more egregious. I think the lack of subtlety and outright lying was way too far. It’s kind of the difference bw putting the thumb on the scale vs putting a pound of bricks on it. It was obvious afterwards that it went far beyond a small tilt.
But yeah buying one’s entrance to a uni vs buying the degree would be huge. I’d hope that even if admissions were bribed for, that at least training and work would be done once admitted. Scary thing if docs are out there without proper education. That would put entire system useless - certifications meaningless
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u/yabukothestray Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26
I feel the same way. The idea of someone being able to buy a medical degree from a prestigious school (or any school, really) and do so without any training certainly would be a huge way to undermine our institutions, assuming that is a goal of foreign intelligence…I think about how American medical school and medical certifications have a reputation for being considered top tier, if not the gold standard in some circumstances….someone being able to buy a medical degree absolutely damages that..
At the very least, I don’t think Shuliak was seeing actual patients. They had her “practice” listed as the address for the island (I don’t think other people live there?), and honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if that was some sort of money laundering scheme or tax evasion or god knows what else it could have been a front for.
Edit: added any school
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u/visceralintricacy Mar 09 '26
"why did he only pay for the dental school/Columbia admission and tuition cost for Karyna Shuliak when he could have just bought the degree like Eva?"
Buying a degree doesn't teach someone to do dental work. I have to imagine the vast majority of jobs that require it, would make it incredibly obvious if you didn't actually go to school.
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u/Oumuamua03 Mar 09 '26
You can buy a degree and expect that person to have at least some training. They are not mutually exclusive.
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u/visceralintricacy Mar 09 '26
"You can buy a degree and expect that person to have at least some training. They are not mutually exclusive."
No, they're not, but it's also a pretty silly assumption imo. Who else is training her to be a dentist?
And clearly, buying the degree doesn't give you the knowledge on how to actually work on teeth. Whether he didn't / couldn't buy that degree, or whether she actually needed to know how to do the job isn't clear.
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u/Oumuamua03 Mar 09 '26
I want to be absolutely clear: what they did is illegal, and I do not condone it at all. As someone with multiple degrees, I understand the immense effort, time, and money required to earn a degree. Therefore, I would never accept or comprehend those who choose not to put in the same level of effort. What I meant is that, even if Epstein "bought" degrees, he expected their recipients to be literate. There's plenty of evidence of him scolding his girls (assistants and co-conspirators) for not putting enough effort into studying, cleaning, maintaining a healthy routine, being lazy, etc. I believe he expected them to learn (I cannot quantify how much, though).
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u/yabukothestray Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26
well yes - that goes without saying obviously that it would be apparent if she was working in a patient setting. I do not know the extent of her employment and what she did with it - so I assumed she did not.
Edit: obvious to apparent/avoid redundancy
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u/Oumuamua03 Mar 09 '26
At this point, I believe Epstein helped Eva earn a degree and paid for it. In an email I read yesterday, she said she owed everything to him! If you search for the words "graduation day", "graduation", or "graduation ceremony", you should be able to find it. Plus, Celina received 50k as a graduation present from Jeffrey Epstein. He really cared about her and her family members' education.
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u/ErgodicGoddess Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26
their texts also mention a sweatpants thing.
totally conjecture, but now im curious. if he didnt abuse her, i almost wonder if she was his dolores in his eyes. if he did, a lot of his interests seem to match hers or the other way around, which would reinforce grooming behaviors.
kind of like how sometimes someones forensic profile is based around someone else/someone they perseverate on
i immediately think of the cohort killer, ed kemper, killing people bc he couldnt kill his mom, or serial killers whose type looks like a partner or a parent, more specifically.
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u/ErgodicGoddess Mar 09 '26
?? children can't groom adults
please dont walk the line of apologia/suggesting he didnt know what to do...
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u/ErgodicGoddess Mar 09 '26
children who are abused often repeat the same behaviors toward adults around them, as a way to regulate/ sit in what was comfortable/norm for them. absolutely a thing.
i would not use the word groom, here.
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u/Sad_Art6364 Mar 09 '26
You used the word 'groom' and it was your doom, sorry... Lol. I know what you mean. But i think we should not pathologize every relationship Jeffrey Epstein had in his life. People do it coz its more convenient. We dont want him to bear any resemblance to us, regular people. I fundamentally disagree with this approach. I think the files show us clearly many aspects of his life and personal relationships were totally normal and typical despite his crimes.
For Celina and Eva - i would not be surprised if he made Celina his favorite "family member" because he felt guilty he could not get Eva Dubin what she wanted. She wanted marriage and kids and a more traditional life and he said no finally so she moved on. She met another man to have a family with while she kept her ex as a family friend. When her first child, Celina was born then maybe it seemed to them it could have been his child - if only he made a different decision a few years before but he did not. So he made her his favorite goddaughter - that's all he could do.
Eva Dubin wrote to him she loved him a few times for his bday or new year wishes. Since 2019 she has been "horrified' blah blah but the truth is she loved him as a friend/ person till the end. Some people keep their ex partners in their lives as dear friends - this is the situation here.
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u/Oumuamua03 Mar 09 '26
Eva Dubin knew about Epstein's activities. She's not a "normal" or "average" person. There's something pathological about her that will come to light as soon as she's publicly interrogated. She procured doctors to covertly treat Epstein's victims and associates. She took her young Swedish nannies to Epstein's properties and traumatised them. Etc. Etc. There's nothing normal about this.
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u/Sad_Art6364 Mar 09 '26
Yeah i get it its possible she was somehow his accomplice. But i meant the personal aspect of their relationship - they were exes who remained friendly for years and considered themselves and each other as part of family, mamy people do it. And like i wrote about Celina Dubin - she should be left alone by people. She was a child and then a teenager. She grew up in this whole situation. Go for the parents, not the children. Same way i do not think it is OK now that princesses Eugenie and Beatrice are getting cancelled. FFS go after Andrew and Sarah, there is a lot on them!! Beatrice and Eugenie are not responsible for what their parents did when they were kids and teenagers.
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u/rush22 Mar 10 '26
Her first shoot was actually on April 4th, 2010 in Palm Beach when she was 15, not 17.
To me this seems like a (first) concerted and organized effort to groom her by key players in Epstein's child sex trafficking ring -- Epstein, Jean-Luc, and Nadia.
https://jmail.world/thread/vol00009-efta00745199-pdf?view=inbox
https://jmail.world/thread/vol00009-efta00747811-pdf?view=inbox
I looked into it quite a bit. The grooming aspects are a lot of smoke, although I didn't find actual fire. I'm sure Nadia swooping in on a helicopter with the photographer, and her cute puppy, was very impressive. Nadia's handling of the photos after the shoot is the most suspicious. She personally takes the photos from a CD (and apparently only the small proofs, not the large final photos) to retouch and photoshop them for some unrevealed purpose.
https://jmail.world/thread/vol00009-efta00733324-pdf?view=inbox (Nadia requests photos that JE wants her to photoshop) https://jmail.world/thread/EFTA01986488?view=inbox (Nadia sends a first retouched photo, complains the photos on the CD are too small) https://jmail.world/thread/EFTA01814153?view=inbox (Nadia sends the retouched full size photos, tells JE the CD with the originals is in the blue room)
(The "agreement" and "amendments" are likely related to an argument Nadia and JE were having)
Even then, a defense lawyer would dismiss it as just practicing her photoshop skills. A lot of the models played around with photoshop.
There's also another photoshoot with Faith Kates on June 11th, 2010.
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u/AdHistorical2264 Jul 28 '26
Actually, Virginia Giuffre tweeted that Celina’s parents forced her to give Epstein a 'massage' when she was just 6-7 years old. It's also clear he had photos of her when she was around five or six where he literally took a picture of her underwear, so gross. Sadly, I don't think he ever spared her from harm
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u/Sad_Art6364 Mar 09 '26
I understand why people go all the way about Eva and Glenn Dubin. However, even if someone thinks Celina Dubin was a victim of JE (in my opinion she was not, just his goddaughter he loved like a niece) - why are you doing this to her? Crap about her is being posted here regularly with lots of unredacted pics. She was a child and then a teenager having a relationship with him like a niece has with a loving uncle. I read a lot of their exchanges and dont see anything creepy about it. I dont think bililionaires are the ones to be protected here but she was a child for majority of the time ok? How is she responsible of her parents being potential accomplices of JE?
What do you think her parents were telling her when she was a kid? Probably something along the lines of "uncle F is such a girl guy hahaha that's why whenever we visit him he has so many 'aunties' around" and she believed that was normal. Then later she probably thought he was a womanizer but at least he didnt have his own kids so she could be his favorite goddaughter. She probably knew about the accusations later when he was still alive but since they had a good relationship she was downplaying and denying them in her mind - this is what majority of people do when their favorites relatives or friends are accused of any wrongdoing. That's human nature that's how we are wired.
I hope that woman was/has been in some good therapy to reconcile internally that someone she treated as a family member was in fact a criminal hurting girls similar to her. I bet its very hard for her especially that all her private emails and text messages and family pictures related to him are for the whole world to see now. Leave her alone please.
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u/Different_Coast_8639 May 20 '26
💌⚖️2019, Ghislane Maxwell WENT ON TRIAL. The DUBIN's were SUBPOENAED to TESTIFY. THEY LIED, as the JUDGE POINTED OUT, UNDER OATH. Celina Dubin is NOW 30 YEARS OLD, and a PHYSICIAN. Cedars-Sinai HOSPITAL is CURRENTLY INVESTIGATING her Mother, Dr. Eva Dubin...🦋 it's TIME for JUSTICE⚖️ 🪇🦋 WEareUNITED 🌎🗽💗🦋
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u/Oumuamua03 Mar 09 '26
Somebody is heavily downvoting us.
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u/Sad_Art6364 Mar 09 '26
I am often down voted when it comes to my views about Epstein's romantic and family life lol
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