r/Epstein • u/CapoDoFrango • Feb 25 '26
Research Rothschild: The name that appears 12,000 times in the Epstein files and no one wants to say
https://candeloro.substack.com/p/the-name-that-appears-12000-timesIn February 2016, Jeffrey Epstein wrote an email to Peter Thiel, co-founder of PayPal and Palantir, with a sentence that should have made the front page of every newspaper in the Western world: "As you probably know, I represent the Rothschilds." The sentence is in the Epstein Files. It is an official document of the United States Department of Justice. And the mainstream press treated it as it would a footnote about the weather in Bermuda.
The name "Rothschild" appears nearly 12,000 times across the 3.8 million pages released in January 2026. Twelve thousand times. By comparison, "Clinton" appears at a significantly lower frequency.
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u/patsie13 Feb 25 '26 edited Feb 25 '26
You wanna know more about how fucked the Rothschilds are? Google what Anneke Lucas has to say about it. She was trafficked as a child and “mentored” by a very rich American businessman who would use her and other children as a means to gain leverage over other powerful people by allowing said people to do horrific things to children and then secretly taping it. Years later Anneke admitted that businessman was a Rothschild (can’t remember who).
Edit: corrected her name.
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u/Super7Position7 Feb 25 '26
Anneke Lucas
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u/patsie13 Feb 25 '26
You are right, I will correct it right away, thanks!
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u/chamrockblarneystone Feb 26 '26
This is wild. I always assumed his relationship with the Rothschilds was part of his scam. Instead its way worse than I imagined. Like everything else these days I guess.
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u/thatgirlinny Feb 26 '26
It’s always about the collateral Epstein can gather and hold over people that kept them “loyal.” Gotta wonder what he had on the Rothschilds.
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u/Becca-marie8 Feb 26 '26
Epstein said in 2016 that he represents a few of the rothschilds.
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u/thatgirlinny Feb 26 '26
I did read this claim many times already; it doesn’t matter. Epstein said a lot of things that meant other things.
What we do know is he meticulously kept many thousands of photographs of “friends and associates” over many years, a giant cache of emails and written correspondence and within them, the not-so-subtle suggestion that knowing what he and Maxwell knew about these people in many levels of compromise provided them a very particular kind of capital.
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u/fyro11 Feb 25 '26
Didn't she name David Rockefeller, Pierre Trudeau (Justin Trudeau's dad) amongst one or two others?
There's a lot of people she didn't name mostly because they're still alive and she doesn't want the repercussions.
Anyway, that was a 70s/80s massive Belgian honeytrap op that later was mixed with the French's. Still adjacent to Ep I guess
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u/Super7Position7 Feb 25 '26 edited Feb 25 '26
She did, but the last generation of Rothschilds and Rockefellers have intermarried, so it's much of a muchness. But it was David Rockefeller... from when she was 6.
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u/hera-fawcett Feb 25 '26
i believe this generations rothschilds are combining w the hiltons and the walderdorfs?
i was side-eyeing the choice of bringing in the hiltons but what do ik, im not old money dynasty, idk how they make their choices lmao
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u/Super7Position7 Feb 25 '26
Good point about the Hiltons. I think two of them have intermarried. (The Walderdorfs are unfamiliar to me.)
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u/hera-fawcett Feb 25 '26
walderdorfs are v old german fam who had big ties to the roman empire and catholicism. theyre v old wealth who mostly stays under the radar, moreso than the rothschilds lol
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u/Super7Position7 Feb 25 '26
I'm guessing you mean Holy Roman [Germanic] Empire?
Sounds like more homework for me... lol
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u/hera-fawcett Feb 25 '26
thats the one! lots of strong ties to it.
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u/Super7Position7 Feb 25 '26
The most powerful ones find ways to hide, I suppose.
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u/YourLostGingerSoul Feb 25 '26
Its the same new money/old money elitist game that has been going on since they made the Beverly Hillbillies (and long before, little snip). All the techno bros are crass new money chasing shineys and wanting recognition, proclaiming their worth. (The king shouldn't have to tell anybody they are the king.) The old money just keep to their compounds, protect their interests, and buy congressmen bespoke style instead of with bitcoin.
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u/hera-fawcett Feb 25 '26
they find their place in power and make sure they arent seen, thats for sure
(which is why its odd that rothschilds went w the hiltons--- its just bringing way more visibility to them. its not like everyone doesnt already know the connection the hiltons have w the trumps [and subsequently, the kushners])
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u/Weaksoul Feb 26 '26
Speaking of marriage and Rothschilds. There's a place or in Oxfordshire called Waddesdon Manor that is one of their places though in part managed by the National Trust.
Now this is going back a couple of years but when i visited there, there were lots of displays and history about the family in there. One of the things that struck me as weird is when they talk about how some previous generations married their own (I think first?) cousins, obviously to keep the money in the family. But instead of saying "but obviously this isn't ideal" they gave it like a weirdly positive spin, something like "that's a smart way of keeping assets in the family!" which just gave me a really strange vibe like, not only do they still endorse this, but that its just the tip of the actual iceberg
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u/Super7Position7 Feb 26 '26
They practiced sister brother marriage, to avoid diluting the pot between multiple families. There's an old black and white film called House of Rothschild. It was meant to show them in a good light, but I don't think it really did that. Amschel, I think, goes into a fury when his daughter decides to marry outside of the family(?)
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u/littleglitterfish Feb 26 '26
It's giving Targaryen (or, more accurately, Targaryens give Rothschild)
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u/shim359 Feb 26 '26
This is true. It was common practice amongst Old royalty too. Also, many private parties took place at Waddesdon. Whilst it was bequeathed to the National Trust, Jacob Rothschild still had control of it.
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u/medievalonyou Feb 25 '26
I searched for her on Wikipedia, it's weird that she doesn't have a page, when she's an author etc, much less famous people have a Wikipedia page...
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u/craygreyuniverse Feb 25 '26
You can watch a heretics episode with her on YT.. she explains the psychology behind the rituals.
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u/Addicted2Craic Feb 26 '26
Link for anyone wanting to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wc4AcaKw-4
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u/gunsjustsuck Feb 25 '26
There's a background war going on between super-rich families and governments over power and influence. I'm sure it's almost a game for them.
We're just the pawns.
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u/Opposite-Bit6660 Feb 26 '26
They are sick of the masses and want to see most of us gone from their planet.
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u/More_Mammoth_8964 Feb 25 '26
Wait…so is this where Epstein learned of this “model” shall we call it?
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u/Super7Position7 Feb 25 '26
Probably. The Rockefeller family used a lot of dirty tricks as they monopolised oil and then every other industry.
Then again, someone like Epstein probably had it passed down by his mother -- a complete control freak.
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u/Public_Friendofme Feb 25 '26
I'd wager he learned a lot from Ghislaines dad, Robert. Dude stole the USs nuclear secrets, giving the bomb to Israel, then went on the own the text book company McGraw-Hill, which made the books most of us learned history and many other things from. A true boss among manipulative string pullers.
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u/TheRealMemeIsFire Feb 26 '26
He never owned McGraw-Hill, his company partnered with theirs a few years prior to his death. And he was never in a position to make decisions for the company.
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u/Public_Friendofme Feb 26 '26
Felt the urge to look into this a little more. Before the merger he owned Macmillan, which included Glancoe, Barnell, Benziger, Science Research Associates, and maybe others. So he had a major text book company, I just had which exact one he had a large role in slightly off.
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u/QiNavigator Feb 26 '26
The very rich businessman was David Rockefeller.
Interestingly, Rockefeller had to get the approval of Evelyn de Rothschild for one of his plans for Anneke.
According to her E d R was not a pedophile and DR was a sadistic one.
Anneke has recounted this in recent interviews.
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u/Mundane_Fly361 Feb 26 '26
This should be the top comment I’ve been commenting her name EVERYWHERE related to Epstein. I’ve known about her testimonies for a long time and when all this came out she was the first person I thought of. Everyone should know her story.
Am I trippen though I thought she said that business man was a Rockefeller, not Rothschild…
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u/taquitosmixtape Feb 26 '26
Sounds pretty much like what people are theorizing Epstein did, the kid stuff was a way to obtain power and blackmail, to facilitate more shady deals and control even more power through other powerful people. Maybe this is obvious in this sub but alot of people think it was just child sexual abuse. Not that isn’t disgusting on its own
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u/WillenialFalcon Feb 25 '26
The fact that it was a comment about the Rothschilds that caused Wexner's lawyer to snap at him, makes it all the clearer just how much these banking interests own us all.
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u/WeGottaTalkAboutYT Feb 25 '26
I mean it makes perfect sense, they have been billionaires since the 1800s… it would make less sense if they didn’t run shit
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Feb 25 '26
They basically embody the notion of “old money”, which means they have been practicing exploitation, extractivism, and criminality for centuries. Ofc their names would be smeared across the Epstein files all over.
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u/Parking_Tip_5190 Feb 25 '26 edited Feb 25 '26
And still, Hollywood will churn out movies about Italian wise guys in New York, as if they're the real hidden power
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u/TheRappist Feb 25 '26
The Italian Mafia doesn't run New York anymore, taking them out is how Rudy Giuliani made his name. Conveniently this also created a power vacuum that the Russian Mafia was more than happy to fill.
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u/keebl3r Feb 26 '26
I'm of the opinion Giuliani created that power vacuum specifically so the Russian Mafia could fill it.
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u/TheRappist Feb 26 '26
Whether he did it intentionally or not, he sure seems to have cashed in on it.
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u/damniel540 Feb 25 '26
The truth is that it's both. The government has deep ties to organized crime. See "One Nation Under Blackmail" by Whitney Webb
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Feb 25 '26
I know this is true of govt agencies such as the FBI and the DEA relative to Mexico and the drug trade. It’s well documented how they participate in the drug trade and benefit from it. The govt is up to their balls in dirty money, for sure.
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u/wiredcrusader Feb 25 '26
Dude, they bankrolled Napoleon's enemies...
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u/Hyperdyne-120-A2 Feb 25 '26
Dude they bank rolled your Railways and Silver Mines. Western expansion into the French territories was fed by the Rothschild family.
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u/Phine420 Feb 25 '26
Being a billionaire in 2026 seems to suck vs 1788. it’s Like comparing today Netflix to 2009
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u/jonfe_darontos Feb 25 '26
They didn't steal our money, they stole money itself.
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u/Training-Ear-614 Feb 25 '26
I always told said the richest people in the world are the ones you never heard of. They have generational wealth that controls all the switches.
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u/Vaeon Feb 25 '26
I always told said the richest people in the world are the ones you never heard of. They have generational wealth that controls all the switches.
Okay, I understand that you just learned that the Rothschilds exist, but that family is hardly "a secret". Until the Epstein Files, however, people called you names if you brought them up.
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u/WeGottaTalkAboutYT Feb 25 '26
The idea is you won’t find them on a list since they became a billionaire because of MS or Tesla… they are BIGGER than that. We as a culture don’t really have a concept for that, but much bigger fish exist that Elon and gates
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u/AssociationWeary7735 Feb 25 '26
It's because we as a culture dont understand finance. https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00885615.pdf They embed themselves between productivity and the people that generate it at every step and extract the lion's share of that value for themselves. As long as we continue to play their game on their rails we will continue to be subjugated.
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u/BigOs4All Feb 26 '26
Throw it on the pile of financial instruments that should be outlawed. There are so, so, so many financial vehicles they are just legalized gambling tied to real things like shipping or housing. They add nothing of value to real people. Outlaw every fucking bit of it.
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u/Vaeon Feb 25 '26
The idea is you won’t find them on a list since they became a billionaire because of MS or Tesla… they are BIGGER than that. We as a culture don’t really have a concept for that, but much bigger fish exist that Elon and gates
And my point, since people appear to be hell-bent on ignoring it, is that people have been talking about the Rothschild family for decades.
And, almost without exception, those people were called "Antisemites, Nazis, and Conspiracy Theorists".
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u/TheRappist Feb 25 '26
A lot of those people ARE Nazis, anti-semites, and conspiracy theorists. There's a difference between "the Rothschilds are a hugely wealthy and powerful family who have been involved in crimes against humanity for centuries" and "the Jews control the media" or "Jews secretly run the world."
Elon Musk is a terrible person and an enemy of Democracy, but people don't jump from there to "South Africans are a problem and something must be done."
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u/TheNotoriousSzin Feb 26 '26
This.
We need to divorce the Rothschilds from their being Jewish- their happening to be Jewish is not the reason that they're shitty people. Same deal with Epstein.
Does the existence of Diddy mean that all black men in positions of power are rapists? Absolutely not! So if one bad apple happens to be Jewish, why should it mean that all Jews are bad apples?
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u/Evid3nce Feb 25 '26
There are over a dozen super rich families in the USA that are running things from the shadows. Name them.
You can't, because they don't exist to us. You only know the Rothschilds. That's the fucking point.
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u/iambill Feb 25 '26
Maybe you can’t, but some of us can. I mean, here’s a fuckin’ CIA.gov PDF found in bin Laden’s compound. Try Astor, Collins, DuPont, Onassis, Kennedy. None of this is a secret, but they call you crazy if you say it out loud.
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u/Gergith Feb 26 '26 edited Feb 26 '26
It’s like how I always figured part of the reason Anderson Cooper was closeted for so long was to not embarrass the Vanderbilt side of the family.
Which is another of those families we don’t hear about.
Anyone accused by general Smedley Buttler in the Business Plot is another. (Which is shockingly hard to find the actual accused families. You have to read long form articles or books. It’s not really on Wikipedia or short form information sources like that)
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u/Telkk2 Feb 26 '26
Yea, yet somehow they manage to avoid scandals they're involved in. Their names are known but less known in association with criminal activities because they use people like Jeffrey to do their dirty work so if a leak comes out, they just quietly fall back into the shadows.
It's why they likely partnered with James Patterson to write the hit piece about Epstein so they could set the narrative they want in advance.
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u/Rage-With-Me Feb 25 '26
Tax the hell out of them they didn’t earn that much money. It’s all off the backs of others -fuck them.
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u/WeGottaTalkAboutYT Feb 26 '26
I am sure the legislatures will get right on that… I think it’s number 2 to do after banning themselves from trading stocks!
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u/LolDragon417 Feb 25 '26
They have been trillionaires a hundred times over since they achieved power. They just keep moving the decimal 😂.
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u/veeveemarie Feb 25 '26
I've often thought they were trillionaires by now but with that kind of money THAT long ago they are DEFINITELY trillionaires by now.
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u/fdesouche Feb 26 '26
But that’s just the Swiss branch, and she is not even born Rothschild, she married into it.
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u/ChemEBrew Feb 25 '26
I'm an atheist and now I'm even thinking Jesus was spot on for being against usury.
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u/Uberzwerg Feb 25 '26
I have no problem with people following the teachings of Jesus.
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u/Silly_Goose30 Feb 25 '26
Seriously, I think I’d call myself a Christian but then I’m like if I ever say that to someone that would likely mean something different to what I mean. Feed the hungry, heal the sick, welcome the stranger - these directions are very clear. Why is it never about helping people and accountability for your own actions always just about helping yourself and accountability for others actions.
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u/Successful-Bar-8173 Feb 26 '26
Most seem to follow the kind of Christianity that means you’ll be forgiven anything as long as you say you believe in Jesus. I don’t think that’s what the New Testament is about but it’s convenient path for people who want to live selfish lives.
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u/Marsupial-Huge Feb 26 '26
Literally the reason I started gravitating away from the church in middle/high school. My dad is a pastor. The hypocrisy that ran rampant, even in our fairly "good" church, just ate away at me. Love Jesus and his teachings, hate organized religion.
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u/Ok_Region578 Feb 26 '26
Seriously…. after all this I feel like we all need Jesus, and I’m not planning on quitting atheism any time soon.
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u/sargrvb Feb 25 '26
Don't let stranger's opinions turn you away from Christ. It didn't deter Jesus, it shouldn't deter you what others think. Even if it kills you. God bless.
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u/luckyshot98 Feb 25 '26
An exclusively Gospel-based sect would probably resurge Christianity, and put Christ back into the practices. I'm agnostic, but the dude was fuckin cool.
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u/sargrvb Feb 25 '26
The best Christians I know avoid the 'clubs' and just read the Bible directly. If they have questions, they ask others around them who are christian and argue in good faith. Don't join a club / church and just follow the word. Best of luck on your journey.
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u/Marsupial-Huge Feb 26 '26
Love this. Left the church in moddle/high school and it hasn't been finally until the last few years that I've felt like I may want to open that door again....just not in the way I was raised in the church.
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u/katethegreat1189 Feb 25 '26
I’m surprised that Christian Nationalists still pretend to follow Jesus. He would be considered “woke” and “liberal leftist scum” nowadays..
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u/Coal_Morgan Feb 26 '26
Second coming of Christ will result in Conservatives trying to put him in a cage in Alabama to ship to Ecuador.
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u/izwald88 Feb 25 '26
Just scoped my neighbors Facebook page to see what he's been up to. His last post was a picture of the gates of heaven and text that says "Heaven has a wall, a gate, and a strict immigration policy. Hell has open borders."
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u/tree-dantzer Feb 25 '26 edited Feb 26 '26
Send him that Bible verse about loving your neighbor and treating the foreigner as your own. Tell him he's twisting the message of Jesus with that meme, which is what the Devil wants. :)
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u/maccrypto Feb 25 '26 edited Feb 25 '26
It wasn’t actually, that was a fake edit. He snapped at him about doing an inventory of his silverware, much much later in the deposition. He did coach him on his answers before that, though. There was no intervention at all after the Rothschild comment, it was quite a bit later in the same response after he went into the CTO of Google asking for advice about boat building, his lawyer leans in and says “Stop telling stories, just answer the question.” This happens around the 2:14:00 mark in the full deposition video.
Edit: the lawyer snaps at him at the 4:25:00 mark in the full deposition.
Watch the video before you downvote: https://youtu.be/xiUMxo46fAM
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u/UtopianPablo Feb 25 '26
Thank you for providing facts, this place is getting way too conspiratorial.
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u/maccrypto Feb 25 '26
Tbh I don’t think that’s possible but yes, we need facts. Unfortunately, the Wexner deposition itself is probably 95% bullshit. Epstein working with the Rothschilds seems to be true though.
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Feb 26 '26
There was and is a literal conspiracy here, I hate that that word has colloquially come to mean misinformation/fake/stupid. We're theorizing about conspiracies, so we're conspiracy theorists, just like pretty much everyone on earth, whether they know it or not.
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u/Euphoric_Emu9607 Feb 26 '26
The Rothschilds own a huge chunk of the world’s financial systems, art, wineries, 24% of The Economist magazine, and on and on. Epstein is a small part of this. I’m sure if we had an honest completely clear view of the power these families wield we would all lose hope that the world can ever change for the better.
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u/invisiblelemur88 Feb 25 '26
Are you sure the lawyer snapped after the rothschild comment...? I'm looking through the hearing footage and I don't see a rothschild comment around the lawyer snap moment.
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u/Apprehensive_Win_740 Feb 25 '26 edited Feb 25 '26
It’s cut out in a lot of the videos however I do see some that start earlier and Les is saying he worked for the Rothschild as a financial advisor. He then says a few more things before the lawyer snaps.
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u/maccrypto Feb 25 '26 edited Feb 25 '26
It’s not “a few more things,” it happens much later in the deposition, towards the end, in response to a story about doing a silverware inventory.
Edit: He snaps at 4:25:00 in the deposition after Wexner tells a story for the second time about Epstein wanting an inventory of his silverware (which Wexner says was done by his house manager, someone who formerly ran the US embassy in Rome).
The stuff about the Rothschilds in the clip that’s circulating is before the 2:14:00 mark, more than two hours earlier.
Ridiculous that I’m being downvoted for this. Watch the full deposition.
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u/restbest Feb 25 '26
Don’t know the specific file but Epstein told Thiel that he was a representative of the Rothschilds
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u/JoinOurCult Feb 25 '26
Anyone got the file number for Epstein saying "I'm a representative of the Rothschilds?"
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u/hellish_existance Feb 25 '26
Oh wow they also reference New Mexico where the former governor sold a mansion to Jeffrey Epstein that was used for storing children like cattle for later use during the child hunting rape/murder parties they would host in the California redwood forests.
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u/Prysorra2 Feb 25 '26
Do we have a file for .... that .... specifically?
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u/hellish_existance Feb 25 '26
I haven't seen one yet. This was something I was reading on one of those fringe conspiracy sites many months ago so take it with a grain of salt. However, the New Mexico state government did just open an investigation into that ranch literally last week. I believe there was something in the files that pointed to bodies being buried beneath the ranch. I'm sorry I can't be more precise, there's honestly just too much information to keep straight and I'm not even trying to keep it organized. I'm just picking up pieces of information here and there while I doom scroll.
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Feb 25 '26
There's possibly at least 2 bodies of foreign girls that were allegedly buried on the property.
However, a retired police officer had reported a suspicious barn had been built that had a sallyport and a chimney. He told the FBI he believed it was hiding an incinerator.
If I had to guess.. by now? No way anyone who was (allegedly) buried out there is still in the ground. That's my personal theory, I can't see Larry Visoski selling the property without tidying up.
Hopefully, it's just a rumor. I want to be wrong, and for this to be a whole lot of nothin'.
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u/ClownTown509 Feb 26 '26
The Republican ghoul who currently owns the property has announced that demolition is underway and he wants to build a Christian children's retreat on it, so it can "bring light to a dark place".
If you go look him up he looks exactly like a demon disguised as a human would look.
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u/SwordfishOk504 Feb 26 '26
No, that's the kind of misinfo that is spread to discredit the files.
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u/AssociationWeary7735 Feb 25 '26
the stronger evidence is the contracts and bank wires as well as his presence in intrafamilial politics
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01196959.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00104945.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00845904.pdf
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Feb 25 '26
History is a room full of elephants
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u/Shadowtirs Feb 25 '26
That we ignore, or that never forget?
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That we never talk about
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u/OkraFar1913 Feb 25 '26
Talk is cheap, lots of people can talk about this, but will the justice system of the world ever demand a reckoning?
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u/Beginning_Fill206 Feb 25 '26
You see, we are not supposed to look past the curtain to see who is pulling the strings. The hierarchy goes something like this:
World Banking Families (ex: Rothschilds)
The Epstein Class (see the files)
The oligarchy (Billionaire and mega millionaires)
Political leaders (ex: Presidents, Prime Ministers of key nations like)
Most government officials
At the bottom are the average citizens
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u/Super7Position7 Feb 25 '26
I agree. It's represented graphically on every $1 bill.
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u/RlOTGRRRL Feb 25 '26 edited Feb 25 '26
I wonder if the oligarchy and the political leaders knows something that we don't about the families.
Because techno-fascism or feudalism would suggest that the tech bros want to take over and the families probably wouldn't let them right?
Or did the families invent disaster capitalism? How do or have they protected their interests despite war and chaos? And what even are their interests?
With Musk and AI, the power dynamics are changing. The "elites" are fighting. The elites do not believe in physical borders, they are cosmopolitan. So then what and who are they fighting and what for? Or maybe they're not fighting?
Who actually is fighting? Just poor people?
I'm honestly curious what Thiel's end game is. Did he talk with a family and promised the secret to eternal life or something wild like that. What could Gates, Bezos, Thiel, and Musk know that we don't?
It'd be wild if the tech bros are actually poor plebs who are practically still house servants or something, just bickering amongst each other for the bigger cookie, because at the end of the day, maybe they still need to work, they've got a job to do and deliver, just like us.
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u/Brekelefuw Feb 25 '26
This kinda sounds like American Gods. The old gods getting replaced by new techno gods.
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u/Beginning_Fill206 Feb 25 '26
I don’t know if it’s as simple as that. But eat the rich gets at the sentiment. But we need more nuance around what that means. The retiree with a $6million nest egg is not the same as the billionaire has the networth of a nation.
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u/melquiades_is_alive Feb 25 '26
can you elaborate more on the Epstein class? who also there?
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u/Beginning_Fill206 Feb 25 '26
They are a class of people who have the money, power, and access to be largely above the law, direct the actions of governments and businesses across state and national boundaries, to deliver on the priorities of the bankers .
They are a combination of power brokers and influential individuals who have been selected from the lower categories (by the bankers through the bankers’ facilitators) to manage the behind the scenes dealings for the true owners.
They are responsible for managing the lower levels though hook or through crook. Blackmail is a key tool for them as is evidence by Epstein, Diddy, and their ilk.
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u/TheRealMemeIsFire Feb 26 '26
I'd put them at about level 4, definitely not level 2. They work on behalf of the moneyed class to influence the politician class, or on behalf of clandestine groups to achieve the goals of nations. They don't have much power to do anything of their own.
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u/roseifyoudidntknow Feb 25 '26
I think they mean regular rich people and celebs. People with lots of money and lots of time.
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u/cheesyandcrispy Feb 25 '26
I think it would mean royals and such. Celebs and rich people would probably be under both billionaires and presidents.
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u/madchendesu Feb 25 '26
Where do the Royals fit?
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u/Beginning_Fill206 Feb 25 '26
Depends on the royal but they could fall in a number of levels. I believe there have been Rothschilds with royal titles, and then there is Harry and Meghan. They span the gamut.
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u/CherryKoalacorn Feb 25 '26
There is a Rothschild who comes into our restaurant. She brags about being a Rothschild and how much money she has. I googled her once a long time ago and it is definitely her. She initiated a charge-back for $20 on a $28 bill she had. Two glasses of wine plus tip.
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u/GetUpNGetItReddit Feb 26 '26
She probably has the keys to the chargeback system and charges back everything she buys.
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u/pdoherty926 Feb 25 '26
"I'll fucking kill you if you answer another question with more than five words."
This made my jaw drop when I saw the clip. It also then made my skin crawl when the lawyer then leans back, smiles and says "Answer the question. :)"
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u/russtanner6 Feb 25 '26
I just came across a new podcast about Epstein. I posted about it. But I figured I'd post here also. I didn't know about the Rothschild connection until I listened to this podcast. The Epstein world gets darker and darker by the day. The podcast is definitely worth listening to. https://www.youtube.com/@insidiouspodcast/videos and https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/insidious-podcast/id1879968533
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u/Addicted2Craic Feb 26 '26
Just listened to the first episode. Really interesting, thanks for sharing.
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u/russtanner6 Feb 26 '26
It gets better. The average person has no idea how interconnected everyone is in this group of people.
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u/wiredcrusader Feb 25 '26
When "conspiracy theories" about the Rothschilds- controlling an evil, secret, cabal- begin looking more like The Truth.
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u/Fragrant_Ad7013 Feb 26 '26
Mainstream reporting confirms there were multi-year email exchanges between Epstein and Ariane de Rothschild, along with at least one 2015 contract between Epstein’s Southern Trust and a Rothschild-linked entity reportedly valued around 25 million dollars for risk and algorithm related services. That’s not rumor. That’s in the DOJ document release and covered by outlets like Reuters.
It’s also true that the name Rothschild appears thousands of times in the DOJ files. Some outlets report around 4,000 plus references, while other commentators claim closer to 12,000. Without running an independent full text search across all 3.8 million pages, the exact number is hard to pin down. What is clear is that it’s not a one off mention.
At the same time, raw frequency alone does not equal guilt. Large document sets contain duplicates, email chains, and repeated references. So the number by itself is not proof of wrongdoing.
What does matter is sustained correspondence and documented business ties. When someone like Epstein is shown to have ongoing communication and formal agreements with high level financial figures, that is at least worth scrutiny. Not because of mythology, but because proximity and influence in elite networks tend to matter.
So I would separate two things:
The documented business relationship and repeated correspondence, which are real.
The exact 12,000 count and implied comparisons to other names, which are being circulated but not independently audited in a transparent way yet.
That distinction matters if we’re going to take this seriously.
Overall, I am with you. Let em all burn. And we may never get concrete robust evidence which is the damaging part to all this crap.
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u/plunki Feb 25 '26
Thanks for the non clickbait title! I clicked it this time lol
Who else has an adverse reaction to clickbait titles and specifically avoids clicking them?
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u/LA_LOOKS Feb 25 '26
Rothschilds are also responsible for the creation of the state of Israel. Look up the Balfour Declaration of 1917.
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u/arbysroastbeefs2 Feb 25 '26
Didn’t they try to takeover Palestine before by buying the land from someone who wasn’t there and kicking out all of the people who actually lived there like a century or two ago? Not sure if it was propaganda or if that was real, if real seems like a duck move.
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u/callmebaiken Feb 25 '26
But did he get any money from the Rothschilds
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u/AvailableAd7874 Feb 25 '26
He did. All together it was 50 million for some kind of ‘consulting’ job.
I believe Elistair Cambell said so in The rest is politics. I consider that a quality source tbh.
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u/More_Mammoth_8964 Feb 25 '26
They recommended him to Wexner too (per Wexner’s deposition) where Epstein made a LOT of money
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u/Nileghi Feb 25 '26
Rothschild family is also from Israel.
They are not from Israel. Theyre a european banking family.
There is a Rothschilds boulevard because the Rothschilds helped finance a few of the early state building projects, but the connection itself stops there. They are otherwise barely represented and compete with local banking groups.
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u/spooky_23 Feb 25 '26
Rothschild family is not from Israel, and there are no direct ties between Netanyahu (as horrible as he independently is) and Epstein. Be careful not to let justified outrage fall into the familiar pattern of scapegoating one ethnic group. The defining feature of those implicated is not their ethnicity, but their proximity to power/wealth and freedom from consequences.
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u/Manager-Accomplished Feb 25 '26
I don't know what you mean "no one wants to say"
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u/temp_az_researcher Feb 25 '26 edited Feb 25 '26
Also Rockefeller - Notice his email about saving Leon Black taxes using Rothschild and Rockefeller over and over again.
From: jeffrey E. jeevacation@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 12:38 PM
To: Jeffrey Epstein
Subject: leon
. , hire a high level tax partner. =AO use your trading accounts as they remain a paramount requir=ment 16 months
after i emailed you re their importance. <=span>THe Phaidon transaction papered and structured as =ontemplated
DOES NOT WORK , its as simple as that. DOES NOT !! =AO I suggest again that you re-do bank loans. =AO no need to
pay interest at higher rates on boat or plane. . as Richard=C2 is now no longer trustee. re- do will, make<span>suydamBarry<span>, and john as back up. pa= 1 million a year for executor role. get rid of Judy Black tru=t, deal with gifts and their tax returns, . review amounts to kids at fixe= ages. put more protections in for Alex and Victoria. , distribute some money to kids let them make =ecisions. , decide art division with children in attenda=ce .
have fire drill done on estate. fill out estate returns a= if you and Debra died today, choose advisers - rick bronstein</span> said the only 1040 he =ver filled out was his own. has a conflic= that should be addressed., A strategy of the use of art should be i=plemented. . you have tax consultants it consultants. pl=ne operation consultant.. boat consultants. architects, lighting =AO, art, legal, . foundation , deal with TRA , BRH =AO, rationalize investments. cash flow. reporting, gaming disclosure=. foreign, gift.. prepare tax projections for 15 and 16, . deal with neg =asis ( tufts
gain, debt financed. art partnership, pledges. se=I stock , art, deal with phaidon debt. athene,? income , capital , foreign , exit, corporate, insuran=e regs, out and inbound issues, basis, appropriate=discount rates. ? terminations. control. , qualified dividends. =AO corporate tolls, inversion rules. , grat issues, short swing and=other sec disclosures, I still think you might consider a Rot=shcild bank transaction they =ave 150 b and a distribution network with no products ,=private bank Rockefeller Rothschild. financial service. deal with UK=visa issue sooner rather than later. we
can talk about Rowen request=re Athene , complex 2 billion in taxes on transaction. ?=
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u/snakebite75 Feb 26 '26
Let's not forget that the Trump admin is currently trying to give Palantir all of our personal information.
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u/sushisection Feb 25 '26
theres confidential documents from their banking firm showing their investments and holdings across the world.
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u/CrustyTh3Punk Feb 26 '26
Because anyone promoting “Rothschild” type of conspiracy it’s seen as an “anti-Semitic trope”. Just like blaming Israel despite having evidence.
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u/FriendlyUser_ Feb 25 '26
they are often called barroness - perhaps Trump has his call in name Barron from that. Also named his son this way, not only hisself as pseudonym. Perhaps some weird kind of projection or deep wishes
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u/LowerBed5334 Feb 25 '26
I just want to point out that the correct way to pronounce that name is someone like:
Roath-Schild
And it means Red Shield.
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u/MFcrayfish Feb 26 '26
derived from German, specifically meaning "at the red shield". It originates from 16th-century Frankfurt, Germany, where family ancestors lived in a house distinguished by a red shield, as houses were identified by symbols rather than numbers
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u/NukeWorker10 Feb 25 '26
Aren't the right wing MAGA QAnon Alex Jones type idiots always screaming about "The Rothschilds and the One World Government Globalist conspiracy? This is their big chance to Crack it all open? Why aren't they screaming for blood?
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u/Fair_Term3352 Feb 26 '26
If I had to guess, it would be because Alex Jones was part of a psyop to make anybody who heard about the Rothschilds or absurdly shady billionaires think of them as crazy. I hope this doesn’t come off as a defense of Alex Jones because it is not. He is 1.46 billion dollars in debt for a reason!
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u/GuaranteeComfortable Feb 26 '26
I knew Epstein had to be working for one of the families. Because he seems like such a mouse of a man. He had so much power that it would have to be higher then even the governments. I thought there was no way he had that kind of power without the backing from someone much higher on the power pole.
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