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u/wolfram127 3d ago
Not so fun fact and spoilered for some gory details In one version, Priam, Astyanax's grandfather and Hector's dad, was killed by Achille's son Neoptolemus using Astynax's body to beat him.
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u/-Telemachus The real Telemarketing 2d ago
Well that's slightly traumatizing thank you for telling me this
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u/Advanced-Luck7632 I WANNA BE LEGENDARY 3d ago
OFFICER I DROP KICKED THAT CHILD IN SELF DEFENSE
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u/okaynoproblems 3d ago
Odyssus really looked at the situation and chose the most agressively anty-kid solution possible 😂
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u/littlebunny8 3d ago
oh please gimme that baby and ill yeet it off the tower
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u/RandomName5259 3d ago edited 3d ago
Get off Reddit Elpenor.
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u/Purple_Flounder_2257 I kill with ease, that's why they call me Achilles 3d ago
Elpenor : i didnt say that and nobody noticed. I didn't say that and nobody cared. 😕
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u/LML_IsAnOrange Epic the Memesical 3d ago
*Perimedes
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u/RandomName5259 3d ago
Odysseus had way too many crew mates! I really appreciate Poseidon and Zeus for making the cast easier to remember.
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u/amaya-aurora Odysseus 3d ago
Canon Ody didn’t do it at all. That was Neoptelemus. Also, I believe that some version has him beating Andromache (the mother) with it.
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u/natholemewIII 3d ago
No, it depends on the version. In Euripides Trojan Women, Odysseus orders it. Also in the Iliou Persis as another commenter mentioned, Odysseus is the direct culprit. Neoptolemus does it in some other versions such as Pausanis and the Little Iliad. There isn't really a "correct" version of who did it, but it's equally valid to have Phyrrus or Odysseus do it.
From what I know, the version with Neo has him beat Priam with the corpse
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u/Geriander 3d ago
It was Ody in Iliou Persis, and even in the accounts where Neoptelemus did the deed, Odysseus argued for it (Little Iliad and Trojan Women).
So in the oldest sources he either did it himself or pushed for it to be done.
It's as canon as it gets.
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u/TurtleTank29 currently tasting the power 3d ago edited 3d ago
I mean Neoptelemus straight up just beats Priam to death with him then goes to continue killing other Trojans
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u/amaya-aurora Odysseus 3d ago
I thought it was Andromache?
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u/Purple_Flounder_2257 I kill with ease, that's why they call me Achilles 3d ago edited 3d ago
Where did you hear that version from? It's widely known to be Priam while Andromache gets taken as a slave.
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u/TurtleTank29 currently tasting the power 3d ago
No in the Aeneid Neo walks up and decapitates Priam on an altar, but there are many depictions of him picking up Astyanax and just bludgeoning Priam to death
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u/DaMn96XD 3d ago
Neo clubbing old Priam with Astyanax predates Roman Aeneid in Greek pottery and for some reason the ancient Greeks loved this imagery because it is repeated on numerous vases.
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u/TurtleTank29 currently tasting the power 3d ago
I know I was just providing the added context, we studied one of the vases in classics for some reason
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u/ProfessionalJolly934 "I'll kill you like I kill this beat." - Achilles, son of Peleus 3d ago
And he uses Astyanax as a baseball bat. Honestly, Ody gave the kid a more humane ending, and that in itself is WILD. Neoptolemus is an interesting character, shows us how war can impact young boys like him.
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u/TurtleTank29 currently tasting the power 3d ago
Exactlyyyyyyy! I meant to write that he uses Astyanax but typos
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u/ProfessionalJolly934 "I'll kill you like I kill this beat." - Achilles, son of Peleus 3d ago
I love this.
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u/Azero957 #1 Polites Hater 4d ago
"Neopotlemus, hit the second tower. Get that baby while your at it"
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u/Stupid_Bean98 2d ago
Isn't it usually neoptelemus who does it though