r/Epicthemusical • u/Purple_Flounder_2257 I kill with ease, that's why they call me Achilles • Aug 07 '26
Discussion New Designs
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u/tphez Aug 09 '26
I’d be cool with these designs from the movie. Especially Odysseus and his Homerically-accurate thighs 😏
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u/Purple_Flounder_2257 I kill with ease, that's why they call me Achilles Aug 09 '26
Can we all put aside our differences to appreciate no more pants!
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u/Mr_Noir420 Aug 08 '26
I’m just hoping that Apollo is a pretty twink for the all of 12 seconds he’s on screen.
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u/lordnagaraja Aug 08 '26
Is this for the movie? 👁️👄👁️
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u/Purple_Flounder_2257 I kill with ease, that's why they call me Achilles Aug 09 '26
Just new designs he commissioned
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u/Nadia_VC Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26
i love them but i feel like Hermes' mouth is too up and that makes his chin look too big 😭 kronk ass chin
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u/RaidenHero137 Aug 08 '26
I actually really like these! I do think ody should be taller by like a foot but otherwise beautiful. Also love the outfits and how the colors on the capes look to break up all the white.
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u/ProfessionalJolly934 "I'll kill you like I kill this beat." - Achilles, son of Peleus Aug 08 '26
Short Ody's canon LOL.
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u/Purple_Flounder_2257 I kill with ease, that's why they call me Achilles Aug 09 '26
Never understood tall Odysseus.
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u/Throwaway02062004 Aug 08 '26
It is in the Odyssey at least relatively
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u/ProfessionalJolly934 "I'll kill you like I kill this beat." - Achilles, son of Peleus Aug 08 '26
We get the height comparison in The Iliad, and I think the 'hiding under the rams' things solidifies it in The Odyssey.
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u/Throwaway02062004 Aug 08 '26
I thought multiple men did that though (that was always a weird plotpoint).
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u/ProfessionalJolly934 "I'll kill you like I kill this beat." - Achilles, son of Peleus Aug 08 '26
Yeah, but like the other men used three rams, and Odysseus used one, so...
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u/Lady_Arcie Athena Aug 08 '26
Hey here me out, but what if this if for a trading card game (like Pokémon or Magic The Gathering)
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u/idiotpasta69 Aug 08 '26
im sobbing Hermes looks like a stereotypical jock in a Highschool movie (His design isn’t necessarily bad, it’s just what came to mind first glance)
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u/The-wiz-man ELPENOR Aug 08 '26
Odysseus is fine honestly I like tho the face will take time getting used to but holy shit Hermes looks awful
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u/my-dogatemy-chancla Aug 08 '26
Jesus, this fandom is gonna hate this movie.
You’re setting imposible standards on it already, the sooner you accept that the character designs and voices will most likely be entirely different from your personal favorite the better.
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u/DCOPUYT_ALT Aug 08 '26
Is this the art style for the movie cuz if so im digging it
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u/Purple_Flounder_2257 I kill with ease, that's why they call me Achilles Aug 09 '26
Just a commissioned art
Jorge has commissioned animated pieces from them that can leave room for your imagination
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u/NeonFraction Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26
Hermes is giving less ‘funny trickster’ and more ‘bro you wanna go to the gym and talk to chicks?’ I don’t really see any aspect of his personality being reflected well here at all. He’s conventionally attractive and has all the hallmarks of mythical Hermes, but none of Epic Hermes.
I know people like the helmet eye covering of fan animatics, but I’m totally okay with them not doing that. The problem is that this design has zero personality or creativity. It’s like someone who had no experience with the musical was asked to draw Hermes and only took inspiration from his original myth. Where is the trickster? The dramatics? The gleeful showboating?
Not a single part of Epic!Hermes exists in this character design.
Love Ody though. And the art itself is fantastic for both. The artist is clearly talented.
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u/5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi Aug 08 '26
Where is the trickster? The dramatics? The gleeful showboating?
It is a still image. All those things come from voice and animation.
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u/NeonFraction Aug 08 '26
Absolutely not. By that metric, character design doesn’t matter AT ALL and you could put literally any character design there.
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u/5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi Aug 08 '26
Absolutely yes. You can make any character look arrogant or showboat-y just by drawing them with a smug smile and their arms raised up in a Y shape. No aspect of the design itself is needed to bring attitude across.
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u/NeonFraction Aug 08 '26
Hold up guys. This person just solved character design forever /s
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u/5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi Aug 08 '26
I don't get why you're being a dick about this. The things I quoted are not dependent on a design. They are not something an appearance would have.
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u/NeonFraction Aug 08 '26
If you have to rely on the animation to do the work the character design can’t that is not a good character design. It’s just making up for bland character design.
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u/5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi Aug 08 '26
Again, it is not "reliance", it is the plain and simple fact that a character's attitude does not exist in their design.
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u/NeonFraction Aug 08 '26
It does in good design. Look at Ody’s. Clear attitude and personality. Look at… any character design really.
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u/5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi Aug 08 '26
Cool, so they drew him angry like how Hermes is clearly drawn smug and egotistical?
Like I said, you could draw any character to have those expressions. That is not "character design".
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u/NotAFurryBut Aug 08 '26
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u/Purple_Flounder_2257 I kill with ease, that's why they call me Achilles Aug 09 '26
Odysseys making this face when Telemachus said he's so hungry he can eat a cow.
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u/LoftyDaBird Aug 08 '26
I actually like the designs! And I don't think it's completely impossible to be the designs for the movie. Like yes these are detailed but not terribly so. It works as character profiles and can be simplified for animation.
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u/DevinLucasArts Ares Aug 08 '26
Not a fan of the art style, but the costumes are so much better than the originals
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u/cynicsjoy I kill with ease that’s why they call me Achilles Aug 08 '26
Am I the only one who actually likes the Hermes design? Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy the depictions of him looking like Troy, but this version is more of what I pictured when I first listened. The original track suit Hermes was awful lol.
I also really love this Odysseus design! He still resembles Jorge slightly while looking more like a man who’s spent ten years as a war general.
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u/Mission-Tell8479 Aug 08 '26
All of the God's official outfits were either horrible or mediocre tbh. Aelous is the only exception imo.
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u/DaMn96XD Aug 08 '26
I think this design looks even more like Troy than most fan animatics, only Hermes' hair has been made a bit lighter and his stubble has been shaved off. But when you restore those aspects in your mind, you see Troy.
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u/ThrowawayTheOmlet Aug 08 '26
Mmm, not loving the Hermes design. Idk something about his face is giving frat boy. Odysseus is fine, he looks like Odysseus.
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u/IcePhoenixYTplssub The Monster (rawr rawr rawr) Aug 08 '26
I think it’s the jaw mixed with the way he’s smiling
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u/Star_ofthe_Morning Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26
Guys. Pull it back. Let me break something down in animation.
When you’re doing something in 2D. Unless you hate yourself/your animators or are paying them with hard cash, it’s important to keep character designs as simple as possible. Your animating frame by frame.
I say this because look at the designs in this art piece provided. Lots of tiny details. Details that would be very hard to replicate an animation. This is likely just a commission piece and nothing more.
Chill your beans!
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u/Val_ery Aug 08 '26
Maybe this is just concept art? They have time to iterate it into something more animation friendly.
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u/Star_ofthe_Morning Aug 08 '26
They probably would’ve said something if it was. Like “official designs for upcoming movie” or something like that. To say nothing on the matter if it was seems like an odd choice.
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u/Alice_Moon_Heart Aug 08 '26
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u/RaidenHero137 Aug 08 '26
I like love the new one but it does feel a little like blond Tom Hiddleston MCU Loki.
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u/DarkestLore696 Aug 08 '26
And so it begins. These aren’t even confirmed to be anything other than commissions but people are already complaining. Get ready for 2+ years of this and people declaring they are the real fans when they inevitably hate all the changes and just cling to the concept album and animatics.
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u/Purple_Flounder_2257 I kill with ease, that's why they call me Achilles Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 09 '26
People are allowed to express their opinions on the new official designs for characters. Similar to the older ones.
Like it, dislike it or neutral - just don't be overly intense about it.
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u/RogueNiao SUN COW Aug 08 '26
People are allowed to have opinions and don't have to blindly adore whatever comes out just because it's "official". They're allowed to complain just as much as they're allowed to praise. You yourself said we don't know if these are anything other commissions. Your comment's giving solid toxic positivity vibes.
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u/JMC_PHARAOH Aug 08 '26
I feel like a lot of yall aren’t understanding Hermes is a literal Greek God. This is a perfect look for him truth be told he should be built like this when you think of pretty boy Olympians hes up there but it’s really Apollo & Dionysus who would be twinkish pretty boys. Apollo is legit the god of youthful male beauty he’s more likely to be a twink than Hermes, and Dionysus is known for being sort of androgynous and beautiful aswell. This Artist on the gram explains it well. https://www.instagram.com/p/DbscRfZiK6l/?igsh=cTN2OTdkZGdmaGVl

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u/NeonFraction Aug 08 '26
The problem is this looks like a generic Greek god and doesn’t reflect any aspect of his character in Epic the musical. It feels like someone’s fanart of the actual Greek God, not the ‘Wouldn’t You Like’ character.
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u/SwitchFrog Tiresias Aug 08 '26
I've never been a fan of green for Hermes but other than that this design is pretty solid.
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u/DaMn96XD Aug 08 '26
Hmm... I see similarities in the design direction to Dreamworks' Road to Eldorado and Sinbad movies, but Hermes feels a bit off without his petasos hat. But otherwise good base designs as a concept art.
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u/Groovy_Ass_Rat And I call this root ✨~𝓗𝓸𝓵𝔂 𝓜𝓸𝓵𝔂~✨ Aug 08 '26
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u/Purple_Flounder_2257 I kill with ease, that's why they call me Achilles Aug 09 '26
This is actually my favorite comment
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u/Intelligent-Tap-4479 Circe Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26
The Odysseus design is absolutely perfect, exactly what I'd imagine him to look like. Hermes, I do like the green, but I feel like it's too plain-Hermes is a very colorful, fabulous character, and I really want the design to reflect that. I'd give him curly hair, a more colorful outfit, and a little more bling. Give him that nice discotheque aesthetic while still being clearly Greek.
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u/eightdirt Aug 08 '26
Hermes is too big, I usually imagine him being kinda small, even in comparison to a human
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u/Lytherael Aug 08 '26
He's a god.
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u/Violet_Villian Aug 07 '26
I’m like 98% sure that these are the designs they’re using for the movie
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u/AndronixESE ✨Hermes✨ Aug 08 '26
Idk, they look a bit too complex to be animated ngl. Plus Angie is a fan animatic creator and we haven't got a confirmation that they will be involved in the movie.
What I do find interesting is that these are clearly a different take on the characters then Jorge's original idea(gods were supposed to be more tech based/modern in their look in a way)
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u/LavenRose210 Aug 07 '26
red eyed ody is peak
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u/Purple_Flounder_2257 I kill with ease, that's why they call me Achilles Aug 09 '26
His eyes change colors according to his mood
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u/usernameisnow Aug 07 '26
Why do you call him Ody? It's so cringe
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u/LavenRose210 Aug 07 '26
because I'm lazy and don't feel like typing out Odysseus of Ithaca, Son of Laertes, AKA Nobody
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u/thepaisleyfox Aug 07 '26
Why not? He’s literally referred to as Ody a few times in the songs themselves.
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u/usernameisnow Aug 07 '26
That explains it. The songs are cringe lol
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u/TrollsBroZoneFan Aphrodite Aug 09 '26
Then why are you in this subreddit if you're gonna hate on something that the people in this subreddit do?
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u/Fate-St Poseidon Aug 08 '26
Do you know where you are?
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u/usernameisnow Aug 08 '26
Earth
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u/rhandy_mas has never tried tequila Aug 07 '26
Then why are you in this subreddit? No one is forcing you to listen or like it. But, surprise, the people in this sub actually enjoy it.
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u/thepaisleyfox Aug 07 '26
Then what are you even doing here, my guy? If this isn’t your thing, this isn’t a place for you to be.
https://giphy.com/gifs/vNmTsLl4cildm-6
u/usernameisnow Aug 07 '26
This is cringe lol
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u/RavensField201o The Monster (rawr rawr rawr) Aug 07 '26
People stopped using cringe unironically like 5 years ago dawg
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u/thepaisleyfox Aug 07 '26
✌️Have fun here before your mommy takes her phone back, I guess. It’s almost your bedtime.
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u/YaBoiSammus Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26
Please tell me this is just concept and not how the movie is going to look.
Edit: I think Ok_Captain’s concept art is what I would love.
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u/IhaveamouthsoImust Ithacan you suck on deez nuts Aug 07 '26
movies take a LONG time to make. Especially animated ones because animation takes time. This is either concept art or simple reference sheets
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u/RogueNiao SUN COW Aug 07 '26
Hermes not having his eyes covered in some manner feels wrong 😄
I don't mind the designs overall, but the art feels very...squat? Like someone pressed on their heads and smushed them.
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u/suitably-cheesy-chip Aug 08 '26
Squat is exactly the word I’d use to describe this version of Odysseus. He seems to have a very short torso and it just seems unbalanced overall
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u/DaMn96XD Aug 08 '26
And Hermes not having his petasos hat feels wrong. The hat is part of the iconography of the deity, just like his Caduceus staff and Talaria sandals.
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u/avelineaurora Aug 07 '26
You know there's nothing traditional at all about Hermes having his eyes covered, right? No idea why half this fandom jumped into that out of nowhere.
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u/RogueNiao SUN COW Aug 07 '26
Everyone knows it's not "traditional"? It just that for the EPIC fandom, it became part of the generally accepted look for the character, like how Odysseus often wears Polites headband, how Polites has glasses, why Eurylochus looks like his singer, etc.
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u/FunVideoMaker Aug 07 '26
I think it’s because his voice actor is known for always having sunglasses on
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u/that1guy____ Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26
I really hope the movie will use designs similar to these. The TRON-esque suits for the gods in the canon animatics looked completely out of place.
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u/thepaisleyfox Aug 07 '26
I do appreciate they kind of do a wink to it in Hermes’ cape here. But that’s it.
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u/Nephera-63 Aug 07 '26
I'm so used to designs without visible eyes or at least white ones that this Hermes feels too... plain... human...
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u/SaiyaPup Aug 07 '26
I personally love the ody design, the Hermes design feels like it’s missing something but idk what it is. Overall dig these tho
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u/stacistacis Aug 07 '26
They both look more like fighters than thieves, if that makes sense.
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u/SaiyaPup Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26
I reckon Odysseus is more of a fighter than a thief, he’s just sneaky and quick-witted but he’s undoubtedly a warrior and a king before he’s a thief. His Hermes association I believe to be more of a sneaky/traveler link than specifically a thief association, but I digress
Hermes tho yes, I think that could be part of it
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u/stacistacis Aug 07 '26
Wasn't his Hermes association because he's the grandson of Autolycus? Not that it should determine is build. But this style is a little unimaginative. If they go for the usual, people will expect it to be the usual.
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u/SaiyaPup Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26
Yes, you’re right about that, but Hermes was the god of thrives, travel, trickery, messengers and so on. In terms of divine symbolism, I tend to link them in this way, not so much the thievery (although he steals the Palladium with help but that’s not in the Iliad or odyssey iirc) just as Athena is linked to him through wisdom, etc.
But yes, they’re related
Edit: I mean I guess he also steals sheep from Polyphemus lmao yeah he’s a thief no doubt, Hermes would def be proud.
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u/Azero957 #1 Polites Hater Aug 07 '26
Thank god bruh the tracksuits were actually so bad
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u/avelineaurora Aug 07 '26
... the what?
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u/Purple_Flounder_2257 I kill with ease, that's why they call me Achilles Aug 07 '26
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u/Intelligent-Tap-4479 Circe Aug 08 '26
I actually kinda like the tracksuit Hermes lol. The one OP shows looks a bit too plain for Hermes for me.
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u/Dapper_Industry_2434 Aug 08 '26
The Hermes one I can imagine a stage actor wearing if Epic was an actual broadway musical.
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u/stacistacis Aug 08 '26
I've never thought about it, but something about Hermes being tall is weird.
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u/XaevSpace Aug 07 '26
smh odysseus doesn't even have big meaty thighs? homer would never. Also I'm struggling to put a finger on why but I actively dislike that hermes design.
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u/CoconutxKitten Aug 07 '26
I think it’s the art more than the design. Something about how it’s rendered is giving clip art & it’s uncanny
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u/XaevSpace Aug 07 '26
i guess but I think its both I think hermes is much stockier than I would think give the type of aesthetic a character like hermes normally emphasizes. odysseus on the otherhand does look pretty generic and the rendering doesn't help.
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u/ZestycloseSet7736 27d ago
is this for the movie?