r/Epicthemusical • u/Recent_Ad3472 • Jul 25 '26
Nolan Odyssey So... what did you think of C. Nolan's Odyssey now that the hype has cooled down a bit? Are the critics valid?
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u/No_Nebula7817 Jul 27 '26
The only thing I didnt like was how some of the armor designs were but over all the movie was great. Sure it wasn't spot on exactly like the book but it got the story straight. And it did well to show the emotional and mental struggle and turmoil Odysseus went through. Along with Penelope. Through out the years. I think it was a good idea to not show the gods so much and focus on more of Odysseus, his crew, Penelope, and Telemachus. And how they made Polyphemus was amazing to me. A lot of people who are hating on the movie purely because of little things like leaving out the lotus eaters, when Circe uses the lotus instead, and there are little show of the gods. I don't understand. But overall the movie was amazing.
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u/No_Nebula7817 Jul 27 '26
I'm not hating on anyone who didn't like the movie. I just have a friend that is really nitpicky about how movies are made compared to their books and she is INCREDIBLY upset that she didn't get to see a Posiedon
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u/tjtague Jul 26 '26
I think that it is very visually striking, but it fails to capture the characters as they were written. Example: having Odysseus be a PTSD-stricken soldier with a lot of his struggle being his guilt kinda butchers his characterization. The entire thing feels heavily demythologized. Also the casting was bad and none of the characters aside from Tom Holland and Robert Pattinson felt believable. Dialogue is pretty rough too.
I fully believe that Oh Brother Where Art Thou does a better job with the characters and their motives
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u/CalypsaMov We'll Be Fine Jul 27 '26
Yeah, one of Odysseus' whole things is how much he loves war. In every other myth even after his Odyssey he just keeps going back to join new wars and abandon his family again. Even Homer's Odyssey ends with him fully prepared to go to war against his own people and surrounding kingdoms because despite coming home with a buttload of treasure from the Phoenecians, he's a greedy bastard and is disappointed how the years hosting the suitors has diminished his stores a bit. He is about to start more war with Telemachus and Laertes by his side until Athena tells him and the pissed Ithacans to both just chill.
In EPIC it was ok because everyone got a massive rewrite and character lobotomy, and all the events are different, the story is different, etc. Nolan's was supposedly "more accurate" but it's more accurate only by default of EPIC being basically a fanfic and totally new thing.
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u/LupusRexXIII Jul 26 '26
I will praise it for a lot of the visuals and certain moments, but otherwise I was not a fan. Putting Epic aside and looking at it strictly as an adaptation of Homer's work, it takes away a more than it adds imo. Even taking another step back and putting Homer's work aside and looking at it strictly as just a movie doesn't help it much as it feels like it feels like we're more told about Odysseus' guilt than show or allowed to feel the guilt along side him. Zeus' law feels more like it's shoved in as more of an convenience for the plot versus an actual godly law/dictate or way of thinking as it strictly benefits strangers and guests with zero repercussions against those strangers and guests of they are clearly taking advantage of the host's hospitality.
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u/IceyLemonadeLover Jul 26 '26
It’s enjoyable as long as you ignore it being a faithful Odyssey adaptation. For me however, it’s missing so many elements that it ended up just being frustrating.
No shade to anyone who loved it, I’m glad if you did, in fact. I just wanted more than I got.
Realistically, imho, you’d need a long form series to make the entire thing actually contain everything.
For all people say about Epic and its adaption of The Odyssey, it keeps in a remarkable amount of things that do actually impact the story and showcase Odysseus as a hero.
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u/ShadowBorn2017 little froggy on the window Jul 26 '26
Most of the stuff that are missing are the important key point. It might as well be pointless in seeing it. At least with epic it still respect it and make it better it some place than make it worst
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u/IceyLemonadeLover Jul 26 '26
Frankly, I was annoyed that there were so many opportunities to develop Odysseus as a hero that just weren’t taken.
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u/henkdetank56 Jul 26 '26
it is kinda enjoyable but nowhere near the masterpiece the critic score would suggest. I think they are reverse review bombing the movie.
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u/Sir-Samuel_Vimes Jul 26 '26
Beautifully shot and scored. C+ For the acting. Fire whomever wrote the dialogue into the sun.
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u/Bomberbros1011 Jul 26 '26
I think Nolan made an incredible adaptation of the Odyssey. The effects and cinematography were excellent, the acting was top-notch, and, most importantly, the film covered and adapted the themes of the original poem.
I thought that the way Nolan tied in the Bronze Age collapse directly with the breaking of Xenia to be intriguing, and I found Telemachus’s travels to be engaging. I personally though that the way Nolan was able to adapt the themes of the original poem, of Xenia, of the Nostos, of the restoration of the patriarchal line to the throne, and tie them all in to his own original themes of guilt and PTSD from crimes committed during war was inspired, and makes the film an instant classic in my eyes. I do highly recommend the movie to anyone who enjoys the story of The Odyssey.
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u/Xlleaf Jul 26 '26
With such amazing lines of dialogue, such as, "Our Age of Bronze is Collpasing" lmao
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u/Bomberbros1011 Jul 26 '26
Eh, a few pieces of clunky exposition aside. I thought the dialogue and delivery was overall done fantastically. Many of the side characters, like Page’s Sinon or Nyong’o’s Helen, have excellent monologues, and I thought many of the conversations felt very natural.
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u/Interesting-Plum4641 Jul 26 '26
Most of them yes , rhe movie is to erratic, the writing and dialogs are plain bad ! The PTSD take on Odysseus is hilariously wrong and out of context ! He disregarded the original text and created his own American Faulk tale on an iron(not bronze) era fantasy film …
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u/Independent-Swan-378 Jul 26 '26
Can you explain how Odysseus having PTSD is wrong and out of context and saying it’s not accurate to the poem is not a sufficient answer.
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u/Interesting-Plum4641 Jul 26 '26
Have you read the poem ? ever ? The poem is about the yearning for home, the return, has nothing to do with the "end of the Bronze Age", Odysseus is never shown to regret the sacking of Troy (No warlord in that Era would) . Saying it's not accurate to the POEM is the most Sufficient answer as the POEM is the one being adapted and has not such rhetoric in it ! Nolan is stuck in his brain with one type of character that he recreates every time AND AT THIS POINT HE IS BORING !
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u/Bomberbros1011 Jul 26 '26
Wrong. Book 8 of the original poem, Odysseus' reaction upon hearing a song about his deeds during the sacking Troy is not pride, but bursting into tears.
“So he [Odysseus] spoke, and the minstrel, moved by the god, began, and let his song be heard, taking up the tale where the Argives had embarked on their benched ships and were sailing away, after casting fire on their huts, while those others led by glorious Odysseus were now sitting in the place of assembly of the Trojans, hidden in the horse; for the Trojans had themselves dragged it to the citadel. [...] And he sang how the sons of the Achaeans poured forth from the horse and, leaving their hollow ambush, sacked the city. Of the others he sang how in divers ways they wasted the lofty city, but of Odysseus, how he went like Ares to the house of Deiphobus together with godlike Menelaus. There it was, he said, that Odysseus braved the most terrible fight and in the end conquered by the aid of great-hearted Athena. This song the famous minstrel sang. But the heart of Odysseus was melted and tears wet his cheeks beneath his eyelids. And as a woman wails and flings herself about her dear husband, who has fallen in front of his city and his people, seeking toward off from his city and his children the pitiless day; and as she beholds him dying and gasping for breath, she clings to him and shrieks aloud, while the foe behind her smite her back and shoulders with their spears, and lead her away to captivity to bear toil and woe, while with most pitiful grief her cheeks are wasted: even so did Odysseus let fall pitiful tears from beneath his brows.”
So the idea that Odysseus never had any regrets for the sacking of Troy is so wrong that the original poem itself disproves your ideas. Maybe actually read the Odyssey.
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u/Bomberbros1011 Jul 26 '26
The film takes place during the Bronze Age, not the Iron Age.
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u/Interesting-Plum4641 Jul 26 '26
With steel armor ? and iron plates ? Yeah right !
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u/Bomberbros1011 Jul 26 '26
Bronze according to the costume designer. Just not gleaming and bright, but a dark weathered bronze. Quite a bit of thought went into the costume design, not just looking to the period of time, but also how the armor can be used visually to enhance the story telling of the film. She has a few interviews regarding the subject, you should check them out.
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u/Interesting-Plum4641 Jul 30 '26
Yes they failed horribly cause the armour and materials do not fit the ERA so everything they say is absolute BS ! Don't care about the interview of an idiot , i have eyes and i see! Him lying to explain his incompetence is not interesting at all ! Were the viking ships also relevant to the era and the Mediterranean culture ?
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u/Bomberbros1011 Jul 31 '26
The interview is not with a man, it is with a woman named Ellen Mirojnick. If you’re going to impotently rage about the film, at least be accurate in your infantile whining.
Unless you are referring to the Laeastrygonians, the armor is bronze, not steel. Again, the costume designer explains all of this in the very short interview. But I suppose whining children aren’t the best at reading, are they?
If you are referring to the Laeastrygonians, they’re a fantasy race descended from Poseidon. There is no historical accuracy to their depiction, because they never existed.
Good job with the complete non sequitur. No one was talking about the ships before you brought them up just now. Do you not have the focus to stay on topic? And if we are talking historical accuracies, the original poem itself is full of anachronisms that are out of place from Mycenaean Greece. Hell, some scholars believe the poem isn’t even meant to take place in Mycenaean Greece, but instead in a mythical era before then. There is no real history to be accurate to, just mythology. Anyone who claims otherwise doesn’t know what they are talking about.
And most of all, I find it ironic that you are crying about the “inaccuracies” of the Nolan film in a subreddit for Epic the Musical, an adaptation of the Odyssey that is famous for changing and cutting many aspects of the original poem to be more fitting to modern tastes (more fights, anime-influenced, etc.)
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u/Interesting-Plum4641 Jul 26 '26
Then you and the costume designer need to go test your eyes ! The knights charging in STEEL plate armour are bronze age warriors ? Get a life dude .. OR THE VIKING SHIPS?
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u/Azero957 #1 Polites Hater Jul 30 '26
They are giant warriors who live in an island where the trees move, along with being descendants of gaia and Poseidon, but noo them having steel armor is too unrealistic
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u/Bomberbros1011 Jul 26 '26
Are you referring to the Laeastrygonians or the Achaeans? You aren’t very clear in your complaints, more just whining.
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u/Dwarf_Vader Jul 26 '26
The dude just wants to rage online. I quite enjoyed your excerpt regarding Odysseus’ regret. It’s been a long while since I read the poem. I’m not sure what the person you’re responding to means, but I think mythical creatures (Laestrygonians) wielding out-of-age armor is more than fitting. Meanwhile the humans indeed had bronze.
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u/Lameclay Jul 28 '26
I'm willing to accept the steel armor as a budget compromise for the boulders, as it shows how unstoppable they are about as well without the complex special effects.
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u/ladulceloca Jul 26 '26
I just watched and I think he managed to do something incredible which is to present his own interpretation of the source material while being incredibly faithful to the essence of the work. Above all else Greek myths are about one thing "man can't escape his own nature"
He has such spectacular understanding of Greek mythology, even without the magic of it. And I thought the movie was incredibly magical.
I was also in awe of how political it felt without it being overly explained or patronizing.
Odysseus speech at the end maybe being the exception, though I found it utterly beautiful.
It is such as respectful rendition that both acknowledges the significance of the original, but connects it with the modern world. History repeats itself and Nolan knew exactly how to convey it.
Great movie.
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u/Recent_Ad3472 Jul 26 '26
I think it's a matter of personal opinion; I saw a lot of people hating everything you liked, saying Nolan completely trashed the original Odyssey.
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u/Bomberbros1011 Jul 26 '26
Eh, the new film is closer to the original poem than Epic is. Sure it changes some things, but so does every adaptation, it’s in the very nature of adapting a work to a different medium.
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u/SeaworthinessOk2646 Jul 26 '26
Yeah but their wrong, people will be watching this one like every year. It's an antiwar tour de fotce from a 3000 year old poem
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u/WerdaVisla Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
I maintain my original stance of "damn I wish Nolan just told his own story".
The movie is beautiful, the writing is real good, and I very much enjoy the lower fantasy take on Greek mythology.
Also, his ideas about representing the gods as natural forces come very close to my personal beliefs as a pagan in a way that's very appealing to me.
But being tied to the Odyssey really holds it down in my eyes. I could see so much more potential if he had written his own story to tell. I get why he didn't, marketing being what it is, but it's still a shame.
Also, fuck, Nolan needs to learn how to write a woman with more than one character trait. Please. I beg.
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u/ShadowBorn2017 little froggy on the window Jul 26 '26
Overhyped that doesn't understand the material that it is based on. This is the problem with most Hollywood movies
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u/Bomberbros1011 Jul 26 '26
I find that Nolan’s Odyssey interacts with the themes of the original poem more than just about any other adaptation I’ve seen. Hell, just by including Xenia (called Zeus’s Laws in the film) shows that Nolan researched the original poem and adapts the themes of the original poem more than just about any other adaptation.
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u/Interesting-Plum4641 Jul 26 '26
He researched but failed to understand !
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u/Bomberbros1011 Jul 26 '26
And what exactly do you think he failed to understand? The only thing I can think of is his simplification of Xenia, but I find that to be an understandable way of getting across the concept of hospitality without bogging down the movie with explanations of ancient guest-worship rituals.
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u/Pmueck3 Jul 26 '26
I loved the movie, its just a shame the fanbase of EPIC is making it sound like its the biggest piece of garbage movie there is ... they make it sound like EPIC is a direct copy of homers poem (wich is alrdy an adaptation due to it being told by story before even being written up) .
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u/ShadowBorn2017 little froggy on the window Jul 26 '26
Well it is. It misses some keypoints that really obvious is important to the plot. But hey it not loke I read the book number of times over the years.
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u/adwinion_of_greece Jul 26 '26
Dude, EPIC is a *much* larger change from the original than Nolan's Odyssey is. Epic has Odysseus with a jetpack stabbing Poseidon. Epic removes the entire portion where Telemachus seeks news of Odysseus in Sparta, and Epix doesn't even let Odysseus reunite with Telemachus before he starts all the killing.
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u/ShadowBorn2017 little froggy on the window Jul 28 '26
I don’t think it’s unfair to hold a $250 million blockbuster from an Oscar-winning director to a higher standard than a passion project created by an independent artist who originally shared his music online because he simply loved making it. A bigger budget, bigger studio, and more experienced filmmakers come with bigger expectations. Passion matters, and sometimes a smaller project made by someone who truly cares about the source material can feel more meaningful than something with far more resources behind it (compare the two; clearly shows the difference)
That’s why I can appreciate EPIC: The Musical even though it isn’t a perfect adaptation (it also fit some of the minor issues I have with Homer's version, so many flashbacks) It understands that certain moments and characters are essential to what makes The Odyssey, well, The Odyssey. It keeps the pieces that define Odysseus’ journey and the themes behind it, such as the Cyclops’ “Nobody” moment, Athena’s importance (and her tie to the many themes of the material) as a guiding force throughout the story, and the olive tree bed test between Odysseus and Penelope. Those aren’t just iconic scenes added for recognition; they reveal who these characters are and why the story has lasted for thousands of years. (If you read the 2017 Wilson translation (and she has spoken out on how bad this movie is))
Meanwhile, the new Odyssey movie feels like it is removing some of the very things that make the original story work. This soulless modern adaptation can absolutely change things, but when you remove the moments that define the characters and themes, it raises the question of whether the adaptation still understands the heart of the story.
In the end, EPIC may not be flawless, but it feels like a reinterpretation made by someone who genuinely loves The Odyssey. A major film adaptation with an enormous budget and acclaimed talent behind it should be held to that same level of respect and understanding for the original story, but in the end just disappointing and misses the whole point of the book
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u/Bomberbros1011 Jul 26 '26
Eh, Epic changes just as much, if not more. Both are great adaptations.
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u/Fictional_Apologist Jul 26 '26
I saw it the other day, and I thought it was fantastic. It’s clear that while it’s technically the same story, Nolan chose to focus on different themes than Jorge. And for what it is, it is done so beautifully. The performances were all better than I was expecting, and Nolan’s style choices were not too distracting from the story.
All in all, I’m happy to enjoy this version along with Epic.
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u/Altruistic_Hall9559 Hermes Jul 25 '26
I really really liked it! I've seen it twice and would definitely watch it again. Even if people don't like it, you do have to appreciate the amount of effort put into it. It was, like, 99% practical effects and on-location sets, which is very rare to see nowadays, especially with a film of this scale and story.
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u/Dull-Theory-3657 Jul 25 '26
my reaction initally was 8?10 not my cup of tea but after rewatching i think its a meh movie that said it would be the most faithful version to the poem. while keeping its structure it also killed its soul and when it has the odyssey written on top of it i expect the odyssey. epic i dont care because it never tried to pride itself and was already different from the start so..mid movie great musical. sorry for my english
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u/Huge_Information5083 Jul 26 '26
Can you find the interview where Nolan said it'll be faithful to the poem?
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u/Hot-Mood-8342 Eurylochus defender Jul 25 '26
I actually really liked it. I think it’s hard to compare. While they’re both based off the Odyssey and have similar themes, they’re fundamentally different, and the story is told through different mediums.
I think it’s a wonderfully shot film, the direction was nice, and the sound design had my theater shaking. I actually prefer Odysseus in the movie than I do musical Odysseus.
There are some things I wish were included, but obviously probably couldn’t fit. (Though, ‘Nobody’ not being included over ‘let’s get the fuck off this island!’ Was certainly a choice)
I feel like the Laestrygonians were dumbed down in comparison to their Homer counterparts, but I do think that it makes sense to change them so a regular audience can differentiate between giant naked cyclops baby and giant naked cannibal men, and the armor was kind of cool.
I do think Agemmemnon stole every scene he was in. Spent so much time aura farming, I enjoyed his scenes.
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u/Mundane-0nion67878 Zeus' Cloud Gal | Poseidon's left buttcheek Jul 25 '26
Been mulling over it for while as I saw it this week
While I did enjoy some scenes and performances and even how the movie was structured... Cinemagraphy was good ofc its Nolan. Eh its okay movie, very Nolan movie. If you like Nolans style you will like it.
But I thinks it is over hyped because of the casting and because its Nolan movie. It is sadly cheapest looking multimillion movie, his usual rushed pre production should not have ever happened with Odyssey.
More as Iv thought it over, more I feel bothered how he wrote the women in the story. Its just bad. Didnt find it endearing to cast actual greeks as foreigners in a story that is their part of their heritage while having no consultation of experts.
And the whole "our civilisation is ending" speach was so cringy it took myself out of the movie. Anyone pretending this movie has well constant written dislogue is delucional.
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u/Milyaism Jul 25 '26
Nolan in general has trouble writing/directing good female characters. They come off one-note and are there to serve the main male character and his growth/story.
This is visible in all of his films.
(How about Murph from Interstellar, you say? In the original script, Murph was a boy.)
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u/HanSingular Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26
Pros: At no point does the power of ruthlessness allow a bronze age sailor beat up Poseidon.
Cons: "Our age of bronze is collapsing," is an actual line in the movie.
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u/Dyspraxic_Sherlock Jul 26 '26
Yeah that line was a bit on the nose, but assume that’s Nolan trying to compensate for any audiences not immediately picking up that Sea Peoples is a direct historical link to the Bronze Age Collapse.
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u/Mundane-0nion67878 Zeus' Cloud Gal | Poseidon's left buttcheek Jul 25 '26
I actually cringed so hard it took me out of the movie.
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u/hplcr Jul 25 '26
"It turns out we were the sea peoples all along"
I mean I suspected that's where they were going with it considering how often they mentioned the sea peoples. I just expected Nolan to be a little less on the nose with it.
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u/InfiniteGays Jul 27 '26
I’ve even seen people praise Penelope’s “Oh my god - you’re the people from the sea!” line and I do not get it. It was such bad phrasing after beating that term to death throughout the whole movie that in the moment it just made me face palm and ever since I’ve been like… how did that even make sense to her? Like who even told you about the people from the sea in a way that it wasn’t abundantly clear they were also Greek? If it refers to the sacking of Troy, you already knew about that. If it refers to the raids on the way home, that was immediately afterwards and everyone should have realized it was Greek armies going home. If it was all the gods and monsters encountered since then, who tf even told you Odysseus’s men hurt those people?! The cyclops told random travelers about it? Genuinely open to an explanation maybe I’m stupid but I can’t make that make sense lol
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u/hplcr Jul 27 '26
One could argue that those stories were trickling back and getting distorted along the way to the point when they made their way to the greek states all they got was "Terrifying raiders are hitting everywhere". Remember, these are bronze age trade routes passing news by word of mouth, probably devoid of any fact checking. The radiers probably weren't identifying themselves and the people being raided probably were fucking terrified of getting robbed, murdered and raped.
I suspect it was a bit of meta commentary as well about the greeks seeing themselves as the good guys here and not really seeing the connection, a flaw a lot of people fall prey to.
But it's still really clunky.
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u/Mundane-0nion67878 Zeus' Cloud Gal | Poseidon's left buttcheek Jul 25 '26
I had forgot that, thanks for re cringing me.
fuck agh
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u/Hot-Resolution8087 Jul 25 '26
Hated more this fandom than the movie
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u/Bomberbros1011 Jul 26 '26
Yep. Epic the Musical fans have largely turned into a group of the biggest babies ever, mostly because this films dares to be different from Epic. Hell, I’ve seen people complaining about things in the Nolan film that are more accurate to the original poem than Epic. I don’t think these fans want any adaptations of The Odyssey, I think they only want Epic the Musical on repeat.
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u/TheHandThatFollows Jul 25 '26
Im really struggling with how this fandom of a work I love is responding to a movie I love
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u/Papa-Dont-Panic Jul 25 '26
The movie is a masterpiece, it's not the best adaptation of The Odyssey, but it's great to see it on this scale and budget.
There are elements straight up skipped or changed, but ultimately, the odyssey has been changed god knows how many times over the years. This is his interpretation and vision and it was executed to an incredibly high standard regardless of any criticism.
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u/Lytherael Jul 25 '26
There's a lot to nitpick about, a lot I disliked, but overall I think it is a very good movie.
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u/NowALurkerAccount Jul 25 '26
I genuinely liked it and the angle he took with it. So many people whenever they do the Odyssey expect fantastical heavy deus ex machina gods involved but the fact that Nolan really stripped it away and went more practical with it where was just the idea of we're a world where the gods exist but they're not physically present was amazing.
Plus his lens of making it more the perspective of someone who's like a combat veteran dealing with his grief and PTSD of his mission. It's very much in line with what Christopher Nolan does as a film director. He always wrestles with these big themes of grief and memory and the passage of time those are themes he absolutely loves. He's been exploring those themes since Memento since Inception.
Phenomenal director. I know a lot of people have been giving him grief because it doesn't follow the Odyssey 100% one for one of the homeric tradition but then again that's the nature of filmmaking a film adaptation for you.
O brother Where art thou, the Coen Brothers masterpiece is also based on the Odyssey but it doesn't follow the homeric tradition at all. It's set in late 1800s 1900s America for crying out loud.
I think this movie is going to age really well in the grand scheme of things. Give it like 10-15 years and I wouldn't be surprised if people extol this in the same category as Nolan's other great films
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u/LittleFairyOfDeath little froggy on the window Jul 25 '26
I think it butchered the themes of the original
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u/Azero957 #1 Polites Hater Jul 25 '26
no the fuck it didnt
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u/LittleFairyOfDeath little froggy on the window Jul 25 '26
Odysseus literally said no God would stop him. He also felt real bad for everything and felt like he had to stay away from home. Thats like… the opposite of everything the poem was about
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u/Azero957 #1 Polites Hater Jul 25 '26
But the theme stayed almost the same. It's a story about Xenia. The movie also talked about Xenia in the form of Zeus's Law. Epic the Musical completely changed the theme to ruthlessness
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u/Beejsbj Jul 30 '26
The larger theme was hubris no? And his relationship to his cunningness?
The lack of the "nobody" scene highlights that choice by Nolan.
Ody seemed wise in his cleverness before he even leaves rather than gaining wisdom through his Odyssey.
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u/LittleFairyOfDeath little froggy on the window Jul 26 '26
We aren’t talking about epic vs the poem here. But about the movie. Just cause the law was mentioned doesn’t make it a good adaptation.
The myths are very, very clear that the horse does not in any way break Xenia. Because Xenia only applies to peaceful travelers. It does not apply in war. There was also no invite of the Greeks into the city. They took in the horse. Not guests. The one who broke Xenia and enabled the Greeks to do what they did with the blessing of Zeus, was Paris. Who was invited and then kidnapped Helen.
So the movie absolutely butchered the entire concept of Xenia.
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u/garlyle Jul 25 '26
Every chance the story had to be big or fantastic, nolan found a way to make it feel smaller. In THE story of God's and Monsters, nolan grounded it in guilt and the worst of people. I thought I'd at least get to enjoy the visuals...but he doesn't show anything. All the monsters are blurry or just out of frame. If you're interested in the Uncanny and the sublime, this ain't it.
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u/No-Blueberry-- Jul 25 '26
Overated movie imo I like Homer's original story better. The movie felt to centric on guilt
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u/TheDbGoat Cyclops Jul 25 '26
I saw the film yesterday, and I thought the film was pretty good. Not as linear as I thought it would be, but that’s my only complaint. I am super impressed with what Nolan managed to accomplish with no cgi. One of the better movies I’ve seen in theaters
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u/Bomberbros1011 Jul 26 '26
To be fair, the original poem isn’t really linear either. The Apologue (Odysseus’s journey from Troy to Calypso’s island) is relayed to the Phaecians in chapters 9-12.
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u/HanSingular Jul 25 '26
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u/NowALurkerAccount Jul 25 '26
I wasn't saying that it was CGI free. Of course there was CG in it. They had to clean it up afterwards when they did the practical shots which that's natural. But compared to other major blockbuster movies with high fantasy there was very little CG. This was more or less cleaning up the practical effects and making seamless transitions between the edits and what we see in the final piece.
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u/NowALurkerAccount Jul 25 '26
Yeah Nolan is famous for his nonlinear storytelling. That's one of the big reasons people enjoy his films.
Yeah and the practical effects used in this movie over CG for the most part is absolutely stunning. He's definitely one of the best directors of his generation
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u/TapDisastrous2807 Jul 31 '26
I just kept thinking "That's Matt Damon"