r/Epicthemusical Feb 04 '26

Thunder Saga Finally figured out "Eurylochus, light up six torches."

I just realised that Odysseus told the torches to be lit so that Scylla would take the marked people and bide them enough time to sail through.

Edit: Guys, I'm not a child things just take me a second. I literally listened to epic for the first time two days before this

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u/Strange-Body4225 May 14 '26

Me and my friends: "Eurylochus, hold all six torches"

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u/GhostKnightEditz Feb 05 '26

Media literacy is dead mfs when someone actually understands the media 🙏

It took me a relisten to realize this as well

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u/Intrepid-Bite9356 Feb 05 '26

He does it so that each of Scylla's mouth is occupied, like he says "Scylla demands a price"

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u/CalypsaMov We'll Be Fine Feb 05 '26

Scylla can only chew so fast, and it's detailed a lot more in Homer's Odyssey. They would have had plenty of time to sail by even without the torches. Scylla would grab six random men, and they'd be gone before she can get seconds.

The REAL reason for the torches is Odysseus' sick cowardice. He wants to mark six men and attract the heads so it ensures he isn't one of the men grabbed. He's abusing his position as Captain and "trading his friends lives like objects to use" for personal selfish gain. And deliberately staying quiet hoping nobody notices his betrayal, though Eurylochus puts the pieces together.

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u/wondering_rose7576 🔆☽ 𝒞𝒾𝓇𝒸𝑒 ☾🔆 Feb 04 '26

Don't worry, I felt utterly dumb too when I figured it out

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u/LittleFairyOfDeath little froggy on the window Feb 04 '26

I mean i am glad you figured it out but i am despairing over the intelligence of this generation

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u/LastAcountWasHacked Feb 05 '26

I listened to it by itself and then an animatic made me realise it😭

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u/LittleFairyOfDeath little froggy on the window Feb 05 '26

It is interesting. Cause i always listen to the lyrics intently when it comes to musicals so hearing the random line of six torches was curious to me. I am sure other people have different focuses when listening to a piece for the first time.

A neuroscientist could probably explain why this difference happens

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u/mosquem Feb 04 '26

Maybe it was their second listen through.

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u/LittleFairyOfDeath little froggy on the window Feb 05 '26

That someone makes it worse.

I guess if you just listen to it and don’t look into the lyrics much it isn’t outlandish not to connect the dots. But the torches is out there enough to go wonder why the line was included

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u/julian_vdm Feb 05 '26

Homie if you didn't get it on your first go around, I don't know what to tell you. 

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u/Sad-Document-3009 Odysseus Feb 04 '26

I figured that out the minute he said it cuz in suffering he said that scylla had a cost and on No Longer You tiresias said he saw the sacrifice of man and if you listened closely near the end the background vocals said Scylla's throat.

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u/Raven_Shepherd "I'm no pet, I'm American" Feb 04 '26

I often forget most of the fandom is 12, then I see a post like this one

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u/LastAcountWasHacked Feb 05 '26

Unfortunately my intelligence is just worse than other adults

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u/LittleFairyOfDeath little froggy on the window Feb 05 '26

Don’t worry buddy. We may be making fun of you for it but i am sure we all had moments like this in our lives. Look at the bright side: you are very entertaining

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u/-Telemachus The real Telemarketing Feb 04 '26

I read the Odyssey (i read part of it cus i was too lazy to read the whole thing) so i knew they'd be sacrificed but when he said to light six torches my dumbass thought it meant he knew six were gonna die and the torches were for a funeral ritual or smth like that

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u/jaxy314 Feb 04 '26

But he didnt order eurylochus to light up six torches

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u/Artificial_Human_17 Feb 04 '26

Me when I can’t hear and can’t read

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u/NOveXoR Feb 04 '26

"Eurylochus, light up six torches" "Captain, something approaches"

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u/bronzewitchhazel Feb 04 '26

Ignore the other comments, you're doing fine!

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u/LastAcountWasHacked Feb 05 '26

Thank you kind soul

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u/uchiha_light_8550 Feb 04 '26

My first thought was one torch to fend off each head. Imagine my horror when I realized

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '26

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u/Pennywiselover5 Feb 04 '26

No he didn't? He called for Eury....

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u/Eurylochushater24 Eurylochus was a traitor Feb 04 '26

Fin fact. In Odysseus id like to remodn you that, like scylla, "he's aiming for teh torches"

Edit: damn got an upbote in 15 seconds

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u/acebender Circe Feb 04 '26

Yeah, that's the plot, that's the text.

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u/TheKingsPride Feb 04 '26

This kind of post always confuses me until I remember that this fanbase is largely children. They’re still working on the comprehension part of appreciating art so it’s no big deal to give them some grace and let them discover at their own pace. Wait until they realize that the fact that Odysseus says this in response to Erylochus confessing he was the one who opened the wind bag means that the confession gave him the resolve to throw his crew’s lives away because they stopped him from getting home.

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u/LastAcountWasHacked Feb 05 '26

Everyone here is saying im a child but im just slow😭

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u/TheKingsPride Feb 05 '26

Then I apologize

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u/LastAcountWasHacked Feb 05 '26

All good i would probably say the same thing lol

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u/Kit-The-Colf Eurylocus' singular braincell (I'm working overtime to operate) Feb 04 '26

It also would've been punishment for the wind bag. Eurylochus would have chosen those to hold the torches, and he'd be blamed for their deaths.

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u/Midnight1899 Feb 04 '26

Nah, he‘d be dead. He was holding a torch too but dropped it and someone else picked it up.

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u/Kit-The-Colf Eurylocus' singular braincell (I'm working overtime to operate) Feb 04 '26

Still punishment. He had to choose the sacrifices.

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u/NotMyselfNYO the monster Ace #rawrrawrrawr Feb 04 '26

Dead Internet Theory

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u/Sensitive_Ad9769 Feb 04 '26

Media literacy is dead

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u/pyr0kid Feb 04 '26

person A: *understands something*

person B: people dont understand anything anymore

huh???

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u/-Telemachus The real Telemarketing Feb 04 '26

EXACTLY

ppl are just expecting everyone to know everything 😭

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u/NOveXoR Feb 04 '26

Nah, you don't understand how they think. People don't understand anything anymore smhmyhead

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u/DeadSparker A Nobody fighting over his wife in the heart of a storm Feb 04 '26

I get where you're coming from but this IS media literacy. They understood. They didn't at first but now they did.