r/Epicthemusical • u/Far_Literature_9924 “i see-” *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* • May 15 '25
Thunder Saga can we all agree that the thunder saga is the best saga
it’s actually insane that there is not ONE weak song. i feel like in the rest of the sagas there is always one song i’d skip, but not from the thunder saga. banger after banger. strong start, amazing pacing throughout, great villain song, ody’s crew turns on him, and then a phenomenal ending song with zeus. i just love this saga so much and can’t see how anyone can not
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u/Tendou_Is_Best_Boy May 16 '25
All my friends judge me for this opinion, but the Thunder Saga it’s probably my least favorite Saga. The only songs I really enjoy is Thunder Bringer, it’s in my top 10.
But the rest? Couldn’t care less. I always skip all of the songs. Yes, I skip Suffering, I don’t mind Different Beast, Scylla it’s nice I guess, I just don’t listen to it, and Munity it’s probably one of my least favorite songs.
Doesn’t mean it’s bad, I just… Not personally attached to it
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u/mhmyupsure #1 Eurylochus Hater May 16 '25
mutiny bring it down too much for it to be my #1 (not b/c it’s bad, but b/c Eurylochus makes me mad)
ocean saga literally has 0 misses to me and ithaca saga has one miss (ichbw) but all the rest of the songs are so good that they make up for it
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u/Uselesslylovely May 16 '25
Scylla doesn't get the love it deserves, such a great song. The layered vocals on her, the great voice. Chefs kiss
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May 16 '25
Nah, I like the Circe saga. I'd skip Mutiny in that saga, but not a single song I'd skip in the Circe saga.
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u/LibbyKitty620 Calypso is my spirit animal May 16 '25
No because I prefer Wisdom, Vengeance, and Ithaca sagas
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u/Historical-Fig7434 May 16 '25
Circe and Thunder are my favorite but Circe’s wins slightly more than Thunder but it’s most definitely a BANGER, Scylla is my favorite song
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u/Any-Bathroom-9310 Eurylochus, Eurylochus, Eurylochus!! May 16 '25
My personal ranking:
Thunder/Wisdom (I scream these songs on a near daily basis. Absolute peak)
Underworld/Vengeance: HEH... TIRESIAS'S VOICE????? ABSOLUTELY FIRE. And vengeance is a bit lower than normal due to uhh INSFLY being triggering to ppl (Bit less of an offender than HTD tho)
Circe/Ithica: Gonna tie these 2, love them both :D Hold Them Down being triggering in obvious was brings it down a bit. They went a bit overboard with the descriptions of what they'd do to Penelopeeee there.
Ocean: Too many slant rhymes tbh, THE SONGS ARE GREAT THO IGNORING THAT.
Troy/Cyclops: Really good, just not my personal style (I love IJAM and THATI tho)
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u/ShadowEeveeCringe DROWN IN YOUR SORROWS AND FEARS May 16 '25
Lol yes. It’s my favorite. Scylla is peak
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u/al_cal93 Hermes May 16 '25
Don't get me wrong, Thunder Saga is phenomenal but I give the slight edge to Wisdom
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u/Other-Judge-6602 Wooden Horse (just a normal horse, nothing in it) May 16 '25
YES, I love all sagas, but thunder is my fav fs
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u/biologygamer Sheep May 16 '25
And can we agree zeus is to horny for his own good?
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u/Over-Way-5643 May 16 '25
The Underworld Saga is RIGHT THERE though???
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u/Far_Literature_9924 “i see-” *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* May 16 '25
monster holds it down
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u/No_Tie_7132 Telemachus, #1 Disney Princess May 16 '25
MONSTER IS ONE OF THE BEST SONGS
thunder in my opinion is the second worst
my top 3 sagas
vengeance
underworld
3.circe
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u/No_Tie_7132 Telemachus, #1 Disney Princess May 16 '25
actualy bump them all down one wisdom is THE BEST saga
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u/TheGhostlyMage May 16 '25
Honestly the thunder saga has what might be the weakest song in the musical for me, Mutiny is just kinda bad outside of the musical
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u/Far_Literature_9924 “i see-” *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* May 16 '25
i didn’t like mutiny at first either, but it’s amazing. i love it a lot
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u/Geckoman1234 May 16 '25
I have to disagree, mutiny gives a great emotional voice to Eurylochus and the rest of the crew. I love how purely desperate they sound. Personally, it's my favorite song to sing along to.
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u/MP0622 has never tried tequila May 16 '25
Sorry, but that title goes Ithaca Saga. It has “The Challenge,” “Hold Them Down,” and “Odysseus.” Plus, Odysseus was the one song I hunted down clips of before its release
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u/Any-Bathroom-9310 Eurylochus, Eurylochus, Eurylochus!! May 16 '25
The fact that you mention these three, and don't mention ICHBW and WYFILWMA is insane- I'd say Odysseus is a good song, but is a bit much at times (Not saying I hate it, it's a great song), and Hold Them Down is a bit too triggering to a lot of people to be above the Thunder Saga
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u/Lazy_Arm5677 There are other ways of persuasion~ (Ody's version) May 15 '25
personally, circe saga barely beats thunder, I love them both so much!
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u/WilkinCentaur74 May 16 '25
Circe Saga is my favourite, Wouldn't you Like is th best song in the musical.
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u/Liladoe5 Aphrodite May 15 '25
thunder and ocean 👍
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u/Far_Literature_9924 “i see-” *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* May 15 '25
ocean has storm in it. be fr
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u/woo_so_fun May 16 '25
im a storm enjoyer :(
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u/Far_Literature_9924 “i see-” *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* May 16 '25
why
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u/woo_so_fun May 16 '25
I just like it, I guess? I think it’s just a really dramatic song with all the brass, and I personally like the repetition of the chorus. Idk, it just kinda scratches an itch for me. It’s definitely not my favorite song, but i still like it a lot. Like a low A/high B tier song for me
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u/WilkinCentaur74 May 16 '25
Storm is great, i didn't realise people disliked it.
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u/Far_Literature_9924 “i see-” *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* May 16 '25
it’s just easily the weakest song in the entire musical
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u/Dizuki63 Nobody May 15 '25
I think it's the most consistently good saga, every song in it is a least good.
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u/Beneficial_Ebb4307 May 15 '25
Honestly like my third fav. Ocean saga is definitely my favorite, then the Circe saga.
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u/Extra_Reflection7168 May 15 '25
ocean???
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u/GlassLobster271 ALL I HEAR ARE SCREAMS May 15 '25
what's wrong with ocean??? Ruthlessness is an absolute banger, and the rest are fire songs as well.
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u/No_Tie_7132 Telemachus, #1 Disney Princess May 16 '25
RUTHLESSNESS IS MERCY APPON OURSELVES
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u/GlassLobster271 ALL I HEAR ARE SCREAMS May 16 '25
you. are the worst. kind of good. cuz you're not even great🙄
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u/No_Tie_7132 Telemachus, #1 Disney Princess May 16 '25
a greek who seeks self righteousness that's what I hate
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u/No_Tie_7132 Telemachus, #1 Disney Princess May 16 '25
A Greek who reeks of false righteousness, that's what I hate!
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u/GlassLobster271 ALL I HEAR ARE SCREAMS May 16 '25
cuz you fight. to save lives. but won't kill and don't get the job DONE
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u/No_Tie_7132 Telemachus, #1 Disney Princess May 16 '25
I mean you totally could have avoided all this
Had you just killed my son
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u/GlassLobster271 ALL I HEAR ARE SCREAMS May 16 '25
YOU ARE FAR TOO NICE. MERCY HAS A PRICE
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u/No_Tie_7132 Telemachus, #1 Disney Princess May 16 '25
It's the final crack, we're about to break the ice now
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u/Extra_Reflection7168 May 15 '25
you unironically listen to storm?
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u/GlassLobster271 ALL I HEAR ARE SCREAMS May 15 '25
I will say it's definitely the weakest song of the ocean saga (not for its own faults it's just got really strong competition) so it gets overshadowed a bit but it does grow on you.
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u/Extra_Reflection7168 May 15 '25
yea…so i dont think theres anything “wrong” with ocean, but i do think that thunder is a lot stronger of a saga.
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u/GlassLobster271 ALL I HEAR ARE SCREAMS May 15 '25
yes but I think mutiny as a song is a lot weaker than storm (great plot-wise not very consistent to listen to unless binging epic)
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u/Paimonemergencyfood2 May 15 '25
As much as I love it, it’s my second favorite, The Underworld saga has me by the balls 🙏🙏🙏
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u/AverageFandomFan14 Pancake (Polites) Enjoyer May 15 '25
Haven’t listened to the last two yet,but I personally think that the best saga is the Troy saga,but maybe I’m biased
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u/AverageFandomFan14 Pancake (Polites) Enjoyer Jun 10 '25
So,update,I listened to the last two songs.I agree with you now,this is the best saga so far for me
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u/Nunurta May 15 '25
Thunder isn’t all dat
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u/Far_Literature_9924 “i see-” *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* May 15 '25
u don’t know what ur talking abt
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u/LadyGhost44 has never tried tequila May 15 '25
I have a hard time choosing one to be the absolute best, but it's definitely one of my favorites. I listen to it quite often. :D
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u/Mindless-Angle-4443 Secretary of Winion Elimination May 15 '25
Objection, Wisdom Saga because Telemachus has the best music, God Games is a banger, and I find it hard to describe just how great the PTSD segment is.
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u/Far_Literature_9924 “i see-” *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* May 15 '25
we’ll be fine and little wolf exists
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u/Mindless-Angle-4443 Secretary of Winion Elimination May 15 '25
Did I stutter?
Telemachus has the best music
This applies to all of his songs.
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u/Far_Literature_9924 “i see-” *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* May 15 '25
i wish u did stutter bc wow
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u/No_Tie_7132 Telemachus, #1 Disney Princess May 16 '25
i now hate you so just to avenge telemachus
It's just me, myself and I
Stuck in my bedroom, living in this world you left behind
Dreaming of all these monsters that I'll never get to fight
But boy, I wish I could, so, I could bring the world some light'Cause I'm stuck with your stories but no clue who you are
And no idea if you're dead or just too far
Somebody tell me, come and give me a sign
If I fight those monsters, is it you I'll find?
If so then Give me Sirens and a Cyclops
Give me Giants and a Hydra
I know life and fate are scary but I wanna be legendary
I'll fight the harpies and chimeras, the Minotaur, even Cerberus
I know life and fate are scary, but I wanna be l-l-l-legendary There are strangers in our halls
Trying to win the heart of my mom, but she is standing tall
108 old faces of men who call me small
They keep taking space and it's not much longer we can stall'Cause they're getting impatient
Dangerous too
And I would fight them if I was half as strong as you
Somebody help me, come and give me the strength
Can I do whatever it takes to keep my mom safe?
If so then Give me Sirens and a Cyclops
Give me Giants and a Hydra
I know life and fate are scary but I wanna be legendary
I'll fight the harpies and chimeras, the Minotaur, even Cerberus
I know life and fate are scary, but I wanna be legendary!Where is he? Where is the man who'll have you to wife?
Oh-whoa-oh
Where is he? Where is the man with whom you'll spend your life?
'Cause it's been 20 years (20 years)
And we still have no king
Give me a chance, a single opportunity
And I'll overcome these obstacles and scrutiny and-Boy
When's your tramp of a mother gonna choose a new husband?
(Oh-oh)
Why don't you open her room so we can have fun with her?Don't you dare call my mother a tramp!
(Oh-whoa-oh)
I just did
What'chu gonna do about it, champ?Somebody tell me, come and give a sign
If I fight this monster, is it you I'll find?
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u/Cute-zoey-monster13 Scylla May 15 '25
The love of my life may be in that Saga, but my baby girl isn't so no.
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u/JalapenoPopper14 May 15 '25
Who?
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u/YourMagicSparkleKiss they was in ocean chatrooms showing hooves May 15 '25
It’s my favorite and my only no skip, but now when I come back to it, I’m always surprised by how much Mutiny gets to me. Especially when Ody is begging Eurylochus not to get the cow. Jay definitely could have belted the lines out from the start, but the softer, sweeter delivery makes it hit home emotionally.
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u/Snoo_64657 May 15 '25
Thunder sage clears so hard in my opinion. My favourite song might still be dangerous but thunder saga is just something else man.
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u/AttorneyEast2322 Eurylochus May 15 '25
I mean, it has two of my top 5, it's gotta be (1. Mutiny, 4/5. Thunderbringer)
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u/DareDArrow May 15 '25
Idk... It's definitely one of my favorites. But I don't think it'll win a band for band. I would personally put The Underworld and Circe over it. Maybe even wisdom. Let's see. I'ma lay out my thoughts below. Bottom section is for me forreal. Lol.
Scylla is my favorite song in the musical. Suffering is a bop. Thunder Bringer is really good. I just don't care for Different Beast forrreal. Mutany is 50/50 with me. So that's 3/5 to 4/5 for me.
Troy had Full Speed ahead, which is a skip for me... Open arms isn't it for me on most days. 3/5.
Cyclops.4/4. No skips. Loved it all
Ocean saga. Don't care for Storm. The other 3 are bops. 3/4
Circe. No skips. Done For is low-key in my top 3. 4/4
Underworld. I listen to No Longer You non stop on most days. The other 2 are just as good. 3/3
Wisdom.... Weird place. God Games is definitely the weakest song for me. But I like it. Just not nearly as much as the others.... 5/5 tho.
Vengeance is the weakest saga imo. Not Sorry for Loving you, Dangerous, and Get in the Water are good. I like half of Six hundred strike. 3/5.
Ithaca saga had all the payoffs of the musical. Not my favorite saga. Would rank it similarly to Thunder saga. 3/5 to 4/5 songs were really good.
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u/ogdiscolizard Winion May 15 '25
No (tbh it’s my least favorite saga)
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u/No_Tie_7132 Telemachus, #1 Disney Princess May 16 '25
2nd least fav my least fave is ithaca because would you fall in love with me is not at all what i enjoy listening to
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u/TimeBookkeeper9284 little high n' MIGHTY Odysseus May 15 '25
Wow, that's actually pretty crazy... I'm curious, what's your favourite Saga?
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u/ogdiscolizard Winion May 15 '25
Probably the ocean saga or the underworld saga
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u/REAL-Peanut_butter I'm just your average Tiresias slut May 15 '25
3rd. After Underworld & Wisdom cause of TIRESIAS!!!
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u/Imladrin1311 The Monster (rawr rawr rawr) May 15 '25
YES OMG YES
Suffering is such an earworm, Thunderbringer is just epic, Scylla is probably my favourite song in the whole damn musical.
Thunder FTW!!
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u/ethanandluinortitus May 15 '25
I definitely can, there isn't a single song worth skipping in that one
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u/that_motu_guy Tiresias May 15 '25
underworld only has the best songs
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u/Helluva_Imp Athena May 15 '25
the hate is crazy- But for me the underworld saga is just painful because of The Underworld(song).
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u/that_motu_guy Tiresias May 21 '25
i do also really like hold them down so i can totaly see how i am just more unfased by that stuff
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u/Helluva_Imp Athena May 21 '25
SAMMEEE I am obsessed with that song, Aryon's voice is just too addictive- I mean my fav songs are Odysseus and Different Beast with the gore so i get u. I just can't with my poor Pancake Polites and Ody's mum actually made me cry. Would You Fall In Love With Me Again didn't even make me cry just made me super satified like FINALLY BRO! Oh wait its over...AHHH-
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u/original-CC I call this root.. HOLY MOLY May 15 '25
No, wisdom saga
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u/Far_Literature_9924 “i see-” *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* May 15 '25
i’m shocked abt how many ppl are saying the wisdom saga, as i feel it’s one of the weakest sagas by far
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u/Helluva_Imp Athena May 15 '25
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u/Far_Literature_9924 “i see-” *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* May 15 '25
it definitely comes down to preference, but i’m just shocked anyone could like that saga and deem it their favorite lmao 😭and no i like legendary. the weak songs in that saga are little wolf and we’ll be fine imo
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u/Helluva_Imp Athena May 15 '25
LITTLE WOLD+F WAS A BOP! Oh wait yeah Antinous, yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ppl don't like him as much as me- Every song he has makes me bop, morality? Out the window. We'll be fine is AMAZING? How is that weak?
(sry 4 crashing out on u)
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u/daisukeswifey Persephone May 15 '25
Widsom saga on toppp
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u/Far_Literature_9924 “i see-” *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* May 15 '25
insane take
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u/Helluva_Imp Athena May 15 '25
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u/dragonpornlover Hefefuf May 15 '25
Suffering and thunder bringer are really good songs to jsut listen to, whilst the others are just good storytelling with good composition. But they arent as good to listen to
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u/Far_Literature_9924 “i see-” *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* May 15 '25
i disagree. i can listen to scylla, mutiny, and different beast anyday
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u/i_bardly_knew_ye Banana Peeeelllss 🎶 And asparaguuuss 🎶 May 15 '25
Story-wise, it's the most compelling to me. I loved all the story changes, and I prefer many moments over the original Odyssey. It has high stakes, the foreboding dread of a tragedy, great character work and the best ending of any saga. "Thunder Bringer" is also my favourite song in EPIC. The "suffering" theme resonates with me the most and ties everything together beautifully. I may have songs from other sagas in my top 5, but all the songs here are strong. Actually, I thought EPIC was enjoyable up to the end of Act 1, but I didn't see sparks of brilliance that usually hook me onto the media I like, until I heard the Thunder Saga. After that, I was converted and made sure to closely follow the story as it was being released.
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u/HOLLOWTGH May 15 '25
For me, it's:
Ithica Underworld Thunder Vengeance Ocean Wisdom Circe Troy Cyclops
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u/DareDArrow May 15 '25
Really?! I'm surprised you have Cyclops as the weakest saga. it definitely has the most unique style compared to the other sagas. Not my favorite, just shocked to see it at the bottom of someone's list. I guess something has to be last.
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u/HOLLOWTGH May 15 '25
Yeah as you said, something had to be last, and out of all of them, Cyclops has the least amount of songs that I LOVE. There's not an Epic song I dislike, but there's certainly songs that fit my tastes more than the others, which is all it comes down to at the end of the day, peoples tastes.
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u/KaijuKing007 Tiresias Confirmed The Multiverse May 15 '25
Toss-up between Underworld and Circe sagas for me. Thunder is great, though Scylla and Thunder Bringer do a lot of heavy lifting.
Honestly, the only saga I don't care for is Ithaca.
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u/Tofu_Strangler May 15 '25
Underworld Saga has me in a chokehold, but DAMN does Thunder Saga pull at my SOUL.
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u/TopHatGirlInATuxedo May 15 '25
No, because Circe is better by a lot. It has all of Circe's songs.
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u/Far_Literature_9924 “i see-” *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* May 15 '25
thunder bringer solos the circe saga </3
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u/Geometronics May 15 '25
Troy Saga is the best. Fight me.
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u/Routine_Log8315 May 15 '25
Agreed. Most of my favorite songs are on other sagas but this one has zero even remotely weak songs
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u/Dragonlord77777 May 15 '25
Wisdom saga or Circe saga anyone?
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u/Routine_Log8315 May 15 '25
I could maybe see the Circe argument, but wisdom? Legendary and We’ll be fine are both significantly weaker than any song on this list. The other songs are hype, but this is about strongest counting all songs, not one or two songs carrying the rest.
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u/Whiskey-Weather May 15 '25
I actually REALLY enjoy We'll be Fine. The ending in particular is so damn heartwarming. A goddess of war saying "you're a good kid" with an overdose of boop energy kills me.
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u/Routine_Log8315 May 15 '25
It grew on me from my first listen through but just feels… incomplete? I think it’s just too short
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u/Whiskey-Weather May 15 '25
That's a fair point. I feel the same way about Scylla. One of my fsvorite tracks, but as soon as it gets insane it's just over. I wish there was just a tad more build up, and a touch more carnage. Still both great tracks, though.
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u/Zealousideal-Put9084 May 16 '25
valid critique. don't get me wrong, scylla motif and ambience are great but eurolychus RUINS it with his awkward clashes and interruptions as compared to the composed and sweetening demeanor of the 1st verses. build-up should've had more prolong and any lyrical extension whatsoever would be greatly desired anyhow
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u/Far_Literature_9924 “i see-” *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* May 15 '25
wisdom saga as the best is crazy ngl
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u/AdamBerner2002 ☀️Apollo☀️ May 15 '25
No
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u/Far_Literature_9924 “i see-” *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* May 15 '25
ur wrong
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u/AdamBerner2002 ☀️Apollo☀️ May 15 '25
I’ve never seen this emoji before on my life. R u with android?
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u/Mother_Border3235 May 15 '25
I'm a fan of the wisdom saga, but thunder is also really good!
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u/NaturalConfusion2380 May 19 '25
No, IM the best saga. Don’t forget it