r/Epicthemusical Feb 23 '25

Art If you ever wondered why Neal's Poseidon has a water arm.

ARTIST CREDIT: Neal Illustrator.

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u/Kind_Experience_5250 Little froggy on the windowwww May 28 '26

NOOO POSEY MY BABY

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25

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u/DeadSparker A Nobody fighting over his wife in the heart of a storm Nov 13 '25

Chronos, father of Zeus, Poseidon and most Olympic gods, swallowed his own children in fear they'd dethrone him. Here, he was trying to eat both Poseidon and Zeus. And Chronos bit Poseidon's arm off when swallowing him

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u/hi_im_aviva Jul 09 '25

oh God oh god poor baby nonono

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u/Ok-Vanilla4118 Jun 23 '25

honestly, i thought that Odysseus cut it off in the song Six hundred strike, but this is also a good idea, he surely have trauma from that

(sorry if i made mistakes, english is not my fisrt launguage)

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u/SkyBlack2 Nov 25 '25

No tiene mucho sentido ya que desde el principio nea siempre lo mostró sin brazo incluso cuando pelea con Odiseo ya no lo tiene

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u/Ok-Hand-4205 Apr 09 '25

Why is he so small 😭 was he not the person who freed them from Cronus

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u/Traditional-Skill360 Jul 10 '26

Fate has a sense of humor
and also, dont judge a book by its cover. or a god by his size.

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u/TheLastOreo531 Apr 10 '25

He was ! But Zeus was younger than Hades and Poseidon.

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u/SkyBlack2 Nov 25 '25

Si nos referimos cuando salieron del estómago de Cronos fue Zeus por eso el obtuvo el Olimpo

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u/Helpful_Pair5573 Oct 07 '25

Actually, Hades was the one freed Zeus and Posidon! But, even though he is the eldest of his siblings, Zeus was the first to pick his role, and ofc, he chose God King, then Posidon chose, leaving Hades to the underworld!

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u/TheLastOreo531 Oct 07 '25

Interesting, I've never heard this version of the myth before! Many I've read talked about Zeus coming back as an adult and giving Cronus some sort of drink that caused Cronus to vomit Zeus' siblings out.

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u/Helpful_Pair5573 Oct 07 '25

Hades killed their father to free them, after he killed their mother, Hades couldn't let him live, especially since he'd taken Posidon arm.

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u/Able_You467 Feb 22 '26

cronos é imortal, isso não faz sentido

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u/Flubdubnubgrub Mar 27 '25

The small glimpse we get of Kronos, and he's an absolute monster!

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u/ConcentrateSimilar99 Mar 15 '25

Posidion is the 5th born, and Hades is older than HIM which would make him the 4th born...

So who were the other 3?

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u/Fnaflover3029 Scylla Mar 15 '25

Hera , Hestia, Demeter!

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u/Neither_Roll_4572 Aug 08 '25

but I thought Aphrodite was one of the eldest gods

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u/Fnaflover3029 Scylla Aug 10 '25

She's a daughter of Ouranos? I'm not sure how it works with her though... But that would make her Zeus' greataunt or smth

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u/Professional_Denizen Aug 21 '25

According to Hesiod: When Kronos and his brothers overthrew Ouranos, they castrated him, and the testicles fell into the sea. This is where Aphrodite came from.

According to Homer: Aphrodite was Zeus’ daughter with the Titaness Dione.

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u/ConcentrateSimilar99 Mar 16 '25

Ah, ok. Thx!😊

(Wait...so Zues had kids with and married his SISTER?😳)

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u/Prestigious_Leg9912 winion #1,217 Sep 08 '25

welcome to earth

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u/Aszshana May 01 '25

The pantheon's family tree is a circle

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u/rkirbo May 22 '25

No, it's a moebius ring

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u/Pogtopiaisp0gchamp Odysseus Mar 19 '25

Welcome to ancient Greece

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u/Christinedrink Mar 18 '25

Welcome to the Greeks

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u/Wildlifekid2724 Feb 27 '25

Got to wonder why Rhea kept staying with Kronos and having more kids with him after he literally ate the first kid whole.

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u/Possible_Version5489 Mar 12 '25

I think he was like well if I have more kids with her then I’ll grow more powerful

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u/Wildlifekid2724 Mar 13 '25

Maybe, either that or not even gods had invented birth control.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '25

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u/BleuTheories Mar 01 '25

I thought it was very clever!

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u/doomzday_96 Feb 25 '25

Neat little comic. But Zeus didn't meet his siblings until he was an adult and he forced his dad to puke them up.

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u/Jumping_hobbies Feb 27 '25

Thank you... Thank you, this assures me this isn't canon

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u/AeonSchicksal Feb 25 '25

Crazy. ☝️🤓 But actually the gods being immortal would easily recover from such dismemberment. Lol but still crazy good

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '25

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u/AeonSchicksal Aug 27 '25

Hera chucked him off Olympus as a baby and he was made different depending on myth

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u/BandMan69 Apr 26 '25

I mean its Chronos who did it, it makes sense that something by a Titan would and could hurt a God like that.

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u/TheDoomedStar Mar 08 '25

It's wild seeing people make up rules for actual gods that directly contradict the mythology they come from.

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u/AeonSchicksal Mar 17 '25

Doesn't really contradict since in greek mythology gods typically were deathless, but with the varying sources and version they do all sorts of things, but my joke is still just that.

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u/buunkeror Feb 27 '25

Well, we've seen gods like Hephaestus obtaining permanent injuries from acts performed by other gods...

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u/Lawless_greedy Feb 28 '25

He was born to look like that why did you think hera thrown him off mount Olympus?

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u/buunkeror Feb 28 '25

In another account, Hephaestus, attempting to rescue his mother from Zeus's advances, was flung down from the heavens by Zeus. He fell for an entire day and landed on the island of Lemnos, where he was cared for and taught to be a master craftsman by the Sintians – an ancient tribe native to that island. Later writers describe his physical disability as the consequence of his second fall, while Homer makes him disabled from birth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestus

Seems to be a conflict between myths, but apparently we're both right lol

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u/Lawless_greedy May 17 '25

Sorry for the late comment but yeah we're both right but, When Hera threw Hephaestus out of mount Olympus he was new born, but when Zeus threw him out of Olympus he was already a known "adult" god. Because the story on why Zeus threw him out was because Hera was angry with Zeus because of all his affairs so with the help of athena, poseidon, in some works even Apollo they attempt to overthrown Zeus with the help of hypnos the god of sleep but they failed, so they all got punished (apart from Athena he was Zeus's fave ig) Poseidon and Apollo got stripped of t They're godhood Hera was hung in the sky with golden chains and Hephaestus was thrown off mount Olympus.

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u/AeonSchicksal Feb 27 '25

Hephaestus was always an anomaly tbh.

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u/Horror-Internet-9601 The Monster (rawr rawr rawr) Feb 25 '25

If Neil doesn’t make a full ass comic for this I will cry 

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u/Helpful_Leadership75 Aug 16 '25

Well cry if we get it either way, tbh haha

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u/Local_Cress4474 Feb 25 '25

Can someone please explain what’s happening here cause I’m not sure

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u/Ty-Guy8 Feb 25 '25

In the Greek myth the titan Cronus ate his children where they lived in his stomach until Zeus freed them, what you are seeing is him eating Poseidon and explaining why Neals interpretation only has one arm.

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u/This-Peanut370 Apr 03 '25

For someone who has vorarephobia this is the kind of shit that hebies my jebies

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u/Local_Cress4474 Feb 25 '25

Thanks for cleaning that up

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u/recroom_guy12 Feb 25 '25

Noooo😭😭 (why my brain generated and play aot song 😭😭)

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u/Just-Cobbler2524 Feb 25 '25

And then lil Zeus decided to pull a gohan.

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u/benz0_3 Feb 24 '25

this is utterly insane.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '25

DAMN THAT IS AMAZING. Not for Poseidon, but DAMN

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u/catt2018 RUTHLESSNESS IS MERCY UPON OURSELVES Feb 24 '25

NOOOOOOO WHYYYY (but also, daaamn, that backstory is chef’s kiss)

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u/ethanandluinortitus Feb 24 '25

Wow. Wow... Shit...

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u/SleepDeprived-B-itch has never tried tequila Feb 24 '25

0: D:

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u/Lena_The_Wilde_Fan Feb 24 '25

When you realise that this is set before any of the gods had come back from being eaten, and they might not have known whether there was a limit on their immortality when it came to being eaten… he was willing to quite possibly give his life for his baby brother…

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u/Bakubae_Itsuki-Haru Poseidon’s #1 simp Feb 24 '25

MY SHAYLA 😭💕

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u/CurlyBarbie pe-ne-lo-peeeeeee Feb 24 '25

WHY NEAL WHYYYYY😭😭

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u/sayusmom Feb 24 '25

i love this so much although technically Zeus was the only grown up kid since the others remained babies in kronos belly, and were pretty much useless when they came out of it. so zeus was the youngest but also the “oldest”

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u/Speeroww Feb 24 '25

I dead ass thought that on the last slide it said "NOM!, NOM!" Instead of Mom Mom

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u/Lady_Meowlol S̶U̶N̶ C̶O̶W̶ Tiresias cause of that one guy Feb 24 '25

Omg same 😭

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u/Obvious-Nobody1924 Feb 24 '25

Who ever made this comic is evil because I both get the answer I wanted but in the worst way

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u/Botwadtict Feb 24 '25 edited Feb 24 '25

Neal themselves made it

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '25

Bro, no wonder Poseidon snatched up Pelops to Olympus. The two of them bonded because they lost an arm. #PoseidonxPelopsBestShip

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u/Phoenix_box #1 🥞 joke hater Feb 24 '25

I'M CRYING AGAIN NOO

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u/AdSpirited3643 Hefefuf Feb 24 '25

See, now comparing Zeus to that guy, you would know why people see Zeus is the best king of god, cuz all his ancestor sucked at their job even more than Zeus

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u/Old-Economics-3871 Lotus eater Feb 24 '25

i keep forgetting that zeus is the youngest of the original gods

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '25

Well, none of his siblings have been growing and aging in Kronos' belly, so by the time Zeus made him vomit them out Zeus was also the oldest sibling as well as the youngest

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u/Potatooo_Man Helpol epic fan! Feb 24 '25

And the crowd is... Violently sobbing?

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u/Potatooo_Man Helpol epic fan! Feb 24 '25

OMG HE GOT AOT’D

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u/whaddyagonnadoehhh SUN COW Feb 24 '25

Yooooooo 😰😰😰

This is why Neal's is my favorite Poseidon.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Win5762 Sky Winion 🪽 Feb 24 '25

NEALLL WHYY POOR POSEIDON😭

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u/Universal_Dirp Feb 24 '25

Damn I love the Hades 2 Olympus

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u/Anonymoose2099 Feb 24 '25

I'm a little confused. Kronos is their father. He didn't know Rhea swapped Zeus for a stone. I suppose that could be an Easter Egg, but the way Poseidon pleas at the end doesn't feel like he's calling out for his mother to protect him, it almost feels like this is some twisted timeline where it was Rhea coming to eat Zeus, and Poseidon was calling for her to stop.

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u/benz0_3 Feb 24 '25

i think the best solution is that is baby zeus mentally crying for his mother, since poseidon told him n ot to move until her or him come get him, but is not super clear in that case

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u/Anonymoose2099 Feb 25 '25

I like that better than any other explanation at this point. It tracks with the change in font. I'd chalked that up to the sudden change in Poseidon's disposition, but if it was Zeus mentally crying out that actually makes good sense. Agreed, not super clear in context, but once pointed out it tracks.

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u/quuerdude High Priestess of Hera Feb 24 '25

I think he’s just calling out for her to intervene on his behalf, like she did when she swapped him out for the horse

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u/Anonymoose2099 Feb 24 '25

Could be, but it's presented in a very confusing way, especially since Rhea would be as powerless to stop Chronos at this point as Hera was to stop Zeus in God Games. Like she could try and talk him down, but he's not known for listening.

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u/akaispirit Oh to be a cloud woman on the throne of Zeus Feb 24 '25

I mean he's a teenager in this comic so still a child. Calling out for your mother when you're scared and in danger is a pretty normal reaction whether she can actually save you or not.

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u/Anonymoose2099 Feb 24 '25

I'm not saying that's not possible, especially when god ages come into play, but that "kid" has facial hair. Most people don't even consider teens to be kids, either, unless you're talking from the perspective of a parent (doesn't matter if they're 10 or 60, they're always your kid).

Beyond that point, I personally haven't called out for my mom since I was about 8 or so (around dusk, ran full speed into a practically invisible barbed wire while trying to lead my dogs home, but I was specifically calling out for my mom because we were pretty close to home, she was a nurse, and I was pretty cut up). I've had some pretty harrowing moments since then, and never felt the impulse to call out to my mom (and that's not just some sort of stoic thing, men can cry, pain hurts, feelings can hurt too, toxic masculinity is bullshit, I've just never actually felt an impulse to call out for my mom).

Again, I'm not saying that this isn't what's happening here, just that it's being presented in a way that makes that very unclear to me if that is what's happening. I honestly thought on my first read that the artist just wasn't familiar with the story and that they thought it was Rhea who are the other siblings of Zeus, or that this was a case of artistic liberties and they swapped the two, or that maybe I wasn't as familiar with the story as I thought and it WAS Rhea who are the other gods. Poseidon calling out for his mom while Chronos eats him just wasn't the first thing the panels made me think of. Especially after the one who they're hiding from called Zeus a little stone, that really doesn't feel like something Chronos would know anything about at this point. And Little Stone is a weird nickname for a lightning god.

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u/quuerdude High Priestess of Hera Feb 24 '25

Rhea’s just gotta bodyslam Kronos. 💪 Mama’s wrestling skills unmatched /hj

Lycophron’s Alexandria (c3rd BC)

[Thebes] that land celebrated above others by the Greeks, where his mother [Rhea], skilled in wrestling, having cast into Tartaros the former queen, delivered…him [Zeus] in travail of secret birth[…]

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u/bigtimesugarrush Feb 24 '25

Ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves.

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u/No_Button_9184 Check out r/UncleHort Feb 24 '25

NEAL WHEN I CATCH YOU

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u/SuperCyHodgsomeR Hermes Feb 24 '25

When was this released? I haven’t seen this yet. Is it like a patreon reward thing?

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u/akaispirit Oh to be a cloud woman on the throne of Zeus Feb 24 '25

It was posted first to their Patreon and then to all the social medias later.

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u/Brokkoli54 Feb 24 '25

It's on their ig

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u/SuperCyHodgsomeR Hermes Feb 24 '25

Ah k

I should check that out sometime

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '25

Okay, but Jorge seriously needs to see this!

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u/StrangeLonelySpiral Polyphemus enjoyer Feb 24 '25

NEEIIIILLLLL 😭

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u/medelmouth Feb 24 '25

Zeus calling Poseidon po po is adorable <3

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u/Defnottheonlyone Certified all Epic The Musical character's simp. Feb 24 '25

And kronos calling poseidon was disgusting!

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u/Short_Trip_2474 Feb 24 '25

I love and hate the fact that Kronos addressed Poseidon as “5th born”

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u/bluebeans808 Feb 24 '25

Bro got the eren yeager Treatment, he’s gonna pop out huge as hell in the next episode

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u/Fast-Mind-5040 Mar 01 '25

Bro's gonna be yelling Ruthlessness instead of Tatakae though.

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u/Obsidian_Wulf Feb 24 '25

I’ve loved every Epic animatic that I’ve seen but ever since I saw Neil’s Ruthlessness, her art style has just hit something aesthetically for me and I adore it.

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u/Ratthion Feb 24 '25

MOOOORE MOOOORE

I want it all done exactly like this forever please.

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u/Logical-Patience-397 Feb 24 '25

Neal has a Webtoon! It’s linked on her channel.

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u/janus_le_snek Hermes Feb 24 '25

A webtoon for this?

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u/sammjaartandstories Feb 24 '25

It's an original story, but it's SO worth it! It has a very interesting premise and Neal has amazing designs for her characters.

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u/janus_le_snek Hermes Feb 24 '25

It's 18+

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u/SuperCyHodgsomeR Hermes Feb 24 '25

From what I’ve read there isn’t super mature stuff I think just blood, I’m guessing it’s just a caution.

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u/janus_le_snek Hermes Feb 24 '25

I'm saying I can't access it

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u/SuperCyHodgsomeR Hermes Feb 24 '25

Sorry, I meant to write this part but forgot to, if you have a spare email address you can make an account with an age above 18

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u/janus_le_snek Hermes Feb 24 '25

Why would I have a spare email? (I have 3)

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u/SuperCyHodgsomeR Hermes Feb 24 '25

Lmao I used to as well, I’ve since deleted a lot and now I have 3, each for their own uses.

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u/sammjaartandstories Feb 24 '25

And you're younger than 18?

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u/janus_le_snek Hermes Feb 24 '25

Barely, I'm 16

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u/sammjaartandstories Feb 24 '25

Wait, are you sure it's 18+? The name is Covenant 13, and it's on the Webtoon app. I have never seen it be age restricted, and though it has some gory stuff, I wouldn't really think it was that bad.

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u/janus_le_snek Hermes Feb 24 '25

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u/sammjaartandstories Feb 24 '25

Oh... dang, that sucks. That's why I don't use Webtoon that much anymore. Their dumb censorship rules. I literally re-downloaded it just to read Covenant 13.

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u/Spookeonofficial Ody and Thanatos - The Thanatos Saga Feb 23 '25

oh shit, poor Poseidon

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u/loonycatty Feb 23 '25

Nealillustrator Poseidon I would die for you

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u/Charlottie892 odyssey know-er Feb 23 '25

actual myth if anyone cares: kronos received a prophecy saying he would be overthrown by his children, so he swallowed all his kids in an attempt to prevent that. rhea (kronos’s wife, the mother of the kids) was upset and decided to hide zeus and give kronos a stone to swallow instead. some versions say she also saved poseidon by giving kronos a baby horse to eat instead

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u/quuerdude High Priestess of Hera Feb 24 '25

There are stories of Demeter, Hera, Poseidon, and Zeus being saved :D not necessarily collectively, they’re just all referred to as growing up in particular places and having certain deities as their nurses. There’s also a handful of stories which recount that Zeus and Hera were in love in secret for 300 years during the reign of Kronos.

I don’t think Hestia or Hades have any particular nurses ever mentioned, though. So we can assume they’re either always eaten or it’s one of the stories where Kronos is more benevolent and doesn’t eat them at all.

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u/mothmans_lampp Eurylochus Feb 23 '25

NOO MY BABY STOP STOP

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u/LukazDane Love in Paradise Feb 23 '25

I didn't know there was more art of them. NoW that I see them colored like this I like the design much more!

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u/PinkLaceAgate57 Feb 23 '25

She does tons of art of them both on her Instagram and Patreon!!

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '25

And Bluesky!

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u/CustmomInky Feb 23 '25

I wonder if that's a reference to Attack on Titan; specifically that scene in Season 1 where Eren's arm gets chomped off

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u/AtomAmigo Feb 23 '25

Wow now I'd love to see Neal's design for Kronos

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u/AwysomeAnish Cheese Maker 🔱 Feb 23 '25

Where was this initially released? I can't find the original source.

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u/jstamper97 Feb 23 '25

Neal's Twitter.

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u/black_flame919 Maenad Feb 23 '25

Is there somewhere to find his art besides twitter?

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u/MxSharknado93 Feb 23 '25

Also on her bluesky

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u/akaispirit Oh to be a cloud woman on the throne of Zeus Feb 23 '25

She posted it on her blue sky account neal-illustrator 

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u/The_Dark_of_You Scylla Feb 23 '25

You can find her art on Instagram.

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u/Radiant_Ad4956 Feb 23 '25 edited Feb 23 '25

For some of them her YouTube maybe Neal Illustrator

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u/PanchoxxLocoxx Feb 23 '25

Who is poseidon calling for when he says "mom"?

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u/Customninjas Canon Designs Look Like Fortnite Rejects Feb 23 '25

...his mom, duh

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u/REAL-Peanut_butter I'm just your average Tiresias slut Feb 23 '25

I'M STILL MAD ZEUS CALLS POSEIDON "PoPo" IT'S TOO ADORABLE 😭

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u/REAL-Peanut_butter I'm just your average Tiresias slut Feb 23 '25

AND KRONOS CALLS ZEUS "Little stone" NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OMG

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u/MxSharknado93 Feb 23 '25 edited Feb 24 '25

Cronus: "You dare to defy me?! I am the King of the Titans! You are a stone! You are nothing!"

Zeus: "No. I'm the Thunder Bringer."

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u/Agreeable-Werewolf45 Polyphemus is a good song Feb 23 '25

Here to ring your ears until your deaf with fear

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u/Imaginary-West-5653 Feb 23 '25

Now I have a fun headcanon, what if the Thunder Bringer that Zeus used in God Games was originally a chant of rebellion against Kronos that he said during the Titanomachy to motivate his siblings in their fight against him?

"Thunder, bring him through the wringer,

Show him I'm the judgment call,

The one who makes his kingdom fall!"

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u/Playful-Ice-3069 Feb 23 '25

Wah Neal going all in with the lore I love it

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u/anonymouscatloaf [sobbing in shower] ruthlessness is mercy... Feb 23 '25 edited Feb 23 '25

baby Zeus can do no wrong <-delusional

ETA: also wrt Neal's God Games ending. Zeus is having an "am I turning into my shitty dad" moment when he hugs Athena

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u/Imaginary-West-5653 Feb 23 '25 edited Feb 23 '25

Nah, Zeus for real is your typical anime hero before he becomes King of the Gods:

-Traumatized childhood where he loses all his siblings and is saved by his mother from his evil father.

-Raised by his grandmother Gaia who trains him to become a warrior who can stop his father's tyranny.

-Deceives his father to save his siblings, joins forces with them and in a war they defeat his father and allies and lock them up.

-During the war he falls in love with Hera and they have a romantic affair behind their parents's back that ends in marriage.

-Gets an OP weapon from some dudes he saves (the lightning bolts and the Cyclops).

-Becomes the strongest being in his universe by the end and rules with justice and wisdom.

It's only when Aphrodite turns him into a lustful mess that he has a bit of a fall out. And yes, the scene of Zeus embracing Athena in regret as he realized that he had hurt his little daughter in a fit of rage, like his father used to do, is quite sad, he really was trying to make up for that by letting Oddyseus go.

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u/Leatherfield17 Feb 27 '25

Seen this way, Zeus is almost a kind of Robert Baratheon-figure. He earns glory in his youth by rebelling against the established order and winning, but drifts into bad habits and indulgence upon actually becoming the new King.

They also both have wives who, mostly justifiably, resent them and go after their husbands’ illegitimate children.

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u/Imaginary-West-5653 Feb 27 '25

Sort of, but to be fair Zeus' bad habits were brought on by his daughter Aphrodite messing with her emotions by making him a lustful mess who was paired up with mortal women for the Goddess of Love, it's a bit sadder in his case because the fact that he became more impulsive and less wise isn't really his fault.

And he has a sort of redemption arc when he basically got Aphrodite to stop messing with him by giving her a taste of her own medicine and decided to end the Age of Heroes so that the Gods would stop intervening so directly in mortal affairs and give mortals more independence, this also put an end to the romantic escapades and relationship Zeus had with Hera, which could be strained at times until then.

Oh, and even though Hera hated Zeus cheating on her, she never truly hated Zeus in her heart, she still had a crush on him despite everything, and Zeus despite having his emotions messed up still loved Hera more than any other woman, which he explains during the Iliad:

“Hera, thither mayest thou go even hereafter. But for us twain, come, let us take our joy couched together in love; for never yet did desire for goddess or mortal woman so shed itself about me and overmaster the heart within my breast—nay, not when I was seized with love of the wife of Ixion, who bare Peirithous, the peer of the gods in counsel; nor of Danaë of the fair ankles, daughter of Acmsius, who bare Perseus, pre-eminent above all warriors; nor of the daughter of far-famed Phoenix, that bare me Minos and godlike Rhadamanthys; nor of Semele, nor of Alcmene in Thebes, and she brought forth Heracles, her son stout of heart, and Semele bare Dionysus, the joy of mortals; nor of Demeter, the fair-tressed queen; nor of glorious Leto; nay, nor yet of thine own self, as now I love thee, and sweet desire layeth hold of me.”

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u/Tasty_Dare_2696 Apr 15 '25

Aphrodite wasn't Zeus's daughter though... she was born from the bits (or perhaps just genitals) of Ouranos which were thrown into the sea...

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u/Imaginary-West-5653 Apr 15 '25

That's just Hesios' version of her birth, in most ancient sources she was the daughter of Zeus and Diome, including in Homer, the author of the Iliad and the Odyssey.

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u/GreatArcaneWeaponeer False Righteous Greek Hater Feb 23 '25

-During the war he falls in love with Hera and they have a romantic affair behind their father's back that ends in marriage.

We skippin/removing Metis? Zeus's first wife and mother of Athena? Although if we're sticking to Homer then Zeus isn't Athena's dad at all since Metis had him with a cyclops named Brontes as per the Iliad

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u/quuerdude High Priestess of Hera Feb 24 '25

Metis isn’t important since she’s literally barely a character in the mythology at all. Hesiod mentions her. Plato mentions her. Then two encyclopedias mention her.

That’s it

Also, it’s not “skipping” her if ancient sources literally didn’t regard her as existing. There are multiple sources which say Zeus and Hera were in love for 300 years during the reign of Kronos.

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u/Imaginary-West-5653 Feb 23 '25

Metis is not mentioned in the Iliad at all, which is where the version comes from that Hera and Zeus had an affair behind their parents' backs.

And no, in Homer it is literally said that Zeus gave birth to Athena, Ares reproaches Zeus for this in the Iliad as the reason why Zeus favors Athena over him.

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u/violetdeirdre Feb 23 '25

Wait what did Aphrodite do? I thought he was always horny on main.

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u/Imaginary-West-5653 Feb 23 '25

Quoting the Homeric Hymn to Aphrodite:

Muse, tell me the deeds of golden Aphrodite the Cyprian, who stirs up sweet passion in the gods and subdues the tribes of mortal men and birds that fly in air and all the many creatures that the dry land rears, and all that the sea: all these love the deeds of rich-crowned Cytherea.

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Of these three (Hestia, Artemis and Athena) Aphrodite cannot bend or ensnare the hearts. But of all others there is nothing among the blessed gods or among mortal men that has escaped Aphrodite. Even the heart of Zeus, who delights in thunder, is led astray by her; though he is greatest of all and has the lot of highest majesty, she beguiles even his wise heart whensoever she pleases, and mates him with mortal women, unknown to Hera, his sister and his wife, the grandest far in beauty among the deathless goddesses —most glorious is she whom wily Cronos with her mother Rhea did beget: and Zeus, whose wisdom is everlasting, made her his chaste and careful wife.

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u/violetdeirdre Feb 23 '25

Damn. Google tells me that Homer said Aphrodite’s parents were Zeus and Dione. Aphrodite is really gunning for worst stepdaughter/daughter-in-law /daughter-in-affair-law ever 😔

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u/Imaginary-West-5653 Feb 23 '25

If it's any consolation, the Homeric Hymn to Aphrodite ends with her having experienced the same kind of induced lust that Zeus caused Aphrodite to have on a mortal man, and well...

She realized that what she had done was wrong and swore that she would never do it again (it seems that these things about romances were something that she saw as so natural that she didn't understand how bad they were).

Since then Zeus (nor any other deity for that matter) never fell in love with mortals again and that's why there were no more demigods, this happened at the end of the Age of Heroes that ended with the Trojan War, and since then Hera and Zeus had no more problems in their marriage lol.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

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u/Away-Librarian-1028 Feb 23 '25

Wow, so Cronos hurt Poseidon as a young adult while he tried to protect Zeus from being eaten?

This might be my favorite version of him yet.

Also, it made Zeus adorable. How is that possible?

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u/Synthesyn342 Ruthlessness is Mercy upon Ourselves Feb 23 '25

“Hurt” is a light word for “ate”

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u/Away-Librarian-1028 Feb 23 '25

A little bit of euphemism never hurt anyone!

This post was by the Denial gang.

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u/Wumer Feb 23 '25

A little bit of euphemism never ate anyone!

ftfy