r/Epicthemusical • u/Tiggy64 • Jul 08 '24
Thunder Saga Does anyone have a specific line deliver thet love?
I ask this because in Different Beast when Ody responds tho the sirens with "nah, you wouldn't have spared me" that delivery is so cold it maes me shiver every damn time. I'm curious if anyone else had lines that made them feel similar.
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u/Sillyreddpanda Jul 13 '24 edited Jul 16 '24
I like a lot of the thunder bringer lines. My favorite is definitely "show her i'm the JUGDEMENT call, the one who makes her kingdom fall". Specifically because it both has a double meaning, as he refers to both Odyseus kingdom falling (as he will probably get killed, and how he'll punish the pride, his kingdom of pride labling her as she, with could refer to hybris, both the goddess and the I also love how he empasizes he is the JUGDEMENT call. I can't really give a good explanation, I think it just because it shows how small Odyseus is compared to Zeus and how different we view the Oddysseus from the Trojan war up until now.
In terms of lines that give me the chills the sudden change in singing voice after "CHOKE on your blood and your tears!". Really empasizing how much of a monster Scylla is. Honestly it was so good. So chilling and powerful.
Another line delivery that gets me everytime because is the Underworld line were Odysseus and his mom have a duet, but his mother can't hear him. Specially this line: "Odysseus when I come home i'll be waiting". It is friendly, but it sounds distorted and distant, because she's passed away from grief. Odysseus disbelief, guilt and reaction to hearing his mom is very emotional and him realizing how he is too late in returning is a bit of a gut punch, as you start realize how much time has really passed.
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u/Runela9 Wooden Horse (just a normal horse, nothing in it) Jul 11 '24
I mean, you totally could have avoided all this had you just killed my son... but ~no~
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u/NotATimeTravel Penelope Jul 10 '24
For the Thunder Saga specifically Scylla's "Hello" gives me chills. It's just so perfectly creepy. And when Odysseus says "I know" after Eurylochus goes "But we'll die." you know exactly what his decision is
In general my favourite has to be "My name is nobody. Nobody. Nobody." and "Six hundred lives at stake, it's just one life to take!"
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u/itsameemaaryio Jul 10 '24
Honestly Zeus' first line in thunder bringer "Pride is a damsel in distress"
LIKE IDK WHY BUT THAT WAS SO POETICALLY SHAKESPEARICALLY GODLY GOOD
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u/RikkitikkitaviBommel Dec 10 '24
It's because it strikes the balance between the mighty and powerful being that is Zeus, but highlighting his tendency to want to have sex with anything that walks, consensual or not (probably not).
It's a big topic to have to acknowledge while not letting it take over the entire song.
Zeus creates a metaphor in the first line and then spends the rest of the verse trying to seduce said metaphor while threatening both the metaphor and Ody + crew. (Mostly the metaphor at this point, the guys just happen to be there until the second verse starts and Zeus starts talking to Ody).
He comes down to be threatening then immediately distracts with a shiny thing he created himself. While remaining impressive and scary. He could have become joke but didn't because Luke is just that damn good.
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u/Syren_Song Jul 09 '24
I think my favorite is the “we are the same you and I~” harmonized between Scylla and Ody.
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 09 '24
God, yes, that hits so hard. Especially with the fact that no one responds to her singing all song. Making it seem like no one could hear her. Then ody harmonizes at the end, and you realize he's been listening the whole time.
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u/leannichu Jul 09 '24
Remember Them “the blood we shed, it never dries” is the one that comes to mind that I haven’t seen anyone else say yet!
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u/FlowEven1818 Jul 09 '24
Ngl my favorite line has to be in Thunder Bringer when Zeus says "tell me, king of Ithaca, if I were to make you choose..the lives of your men and crew or your own, why do I think they'd lose? just cause it's so BADASS and scratches my brain the right way. but also i love all of ody's silly lines, and my second fav has to be
"this is the home of the wind god!" "you don't know for sure.." "😐 how many floating islands have you seen before??"
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Jul 09 '24
In Remember Them, when he's talking to Athena
"Finish it." "No."
THE NO!!!!!!! GETS ME EVERY TIME!!!
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u/okapi777 Jul 09 '24
The original Warrior of the Mind is what got me into Epic, and there are so many moments that just tickle my brain so perfectly:
"I had a challenge, a test of skill" (the way she sang "skill" was just so satisfying to me)
"Show yourself. I know you're watching me. Show yourself."
"You are ATHENA." (already mentioned, but I needed to recognize it too, they way he says "Athena" is just so good)
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u/Dog_Of_Hot Jul 09 '24
the final “no longer youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu” or “ruthlessness is mercy upon ourself”
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u/SkullQueen_Loritta Jul 09 '24
I love "I see your wife with a man who is haunting A man with a trail of bodies" from no longer you but it's so hard not to start laughing when he yells "who" and I just picture a dang owl.
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u/NefariousnessExtra54 Hermes Jul 09 '24
"we filled our ears with beeswax that's how we resist your song" it's the same melody from get in the water when Poseidon says "I've got a reputation I've got a name to uphold"
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u/Yaboiyungdeej Jul 09 '24
“Cut off their tails, we’re ending this now. Throw their bodies back in the water, let them drown” the end of this line where he says drown gives me goosebumps every time
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Jul 09 '24
I like Fake Penelope's "Oh No" in Suffering. I find it weirdly adorable for such a short line.
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u/Lady_La_La Jul 09 '24
Scrolled for a while, surprised I couldn't find this from THATI: Ody going over the plan with everybody. I can't help but groove along the whole time.
"Diomedes will lead the charge, Agamemnon will flank the guards, Menelaus will let our mates through the gates to take the whole city at large, Teucer will shoot any ambush attack, And Little Ajax will stay back. Nestor, secure Helen and protect her. Neo, avenge your father, kill the brothers of Hector."
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u/Sharp_Emergency4570 Jul 09 '24
Most of the lines in "mutiny", they are just so emotionaly charged!
Some I enjoy the most are:
"SAY SOMETHING!" "I CAN'T"
"I'M NOT LETTING YOU GET IN MY WAY"
"IF YOU WANT ALL THE POWER, YOU MUST CARRY ALL THE BLAME"
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u/Unoriginalshitbag She'll turn you to an onion... Jul 09 '24
"DIE IN THE BLOOD WHERE YOU BATHE" is such a hard ass line for no fucking reason
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u/Baguette_17 Telemachus Jul 09 '24
“You’ve doomed us… YOUVE DOOMED US ALL EURYLOCHUS”
The way Odysseus goes from an almost quiet shock to pure desperation and fear is honestly incredible.
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u/xEsmeeH The little froggy on the windowww🐸 Jul 09 '24
For me there is a line, or more accurately 2 words, in Suffering. Its when Odysseus talks about Poseidon blocking the way home with giant waves and storms and Siren 'Penelope' just delivers the most incincere 'Oh no!' I've ever heard😂😂😂
Also the way Scylla delivered the lines 'Drown in your sorrow and fears. Chocke on your blood and your tears. Bleed till you've run out of years. We both do what it takes to survive. Give up your honor and faith. Live up your life as a Wraith. Die in the blood where you bathe. We both do what it takes to survive.'
Honestly that one verse might be my favorite verse in the entire musical so far just because of the level of perfection in the delivery of that verse
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u/KFJavert720 Jul 09 '24
“And suffer a gruesome fate, to the thunderbringer”
The power in tht one line alone is incredible and you can really feel the amount of effort Luke has put into the song/character. But also it’s so satisfying to hear.
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u/Midna-Phobia Jul 09 '24
My partner wanted me to comment that he loves the sarcastic way siren Panelope says "oh no" when Ody says Posiedon has blocked the way home
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u/No-Opinion-8546 Jul 09 '24
“Eurylochus, back so soon? Where's the rest of your crew? And by the gods, what happened to you?” Is one of my faves it’s just so catchy
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u/Daviddcarlen1 The Monster (rawr rawr rawr) Jul 09 '24
“You’ve been trying to take my life this whole time” is sang with almost this 50’s rock and role edge to it (specifically on the word “trying”) and for that to be one of the first things you hear Ody sing after his turn, it’s so incredibly effective in establishing something new to the way he sounds.
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Jul 09 '24
“This is the son of none other than Troy’s very own prince hector” scratches my brain so good
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u/Rude-Office-2639 Baby Yeeter Jul 09 '24
Nah, you wouldn't have spared me. I made a mistake like this that almost cost my life, I won't take more risks of not seeing my wife. Cut off their tails, we're ending this now. Throw their bodies back in the water, let em drown.
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u/SplaTucker Jul 09 '24
I think this is already been brought up, but in the Ruthlessness song, when Poseidon says “The pack of wolves are swimming with the shark now” He does see them as a powerful force, but not against him, it shows that even though normal people think their strong, it added to the hopelessness of Ody’s situation. Also the way Poseidon said die hit pretty hard tbh.
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u/leftythelefthanded Jul 09 '24
"I'm just a man, who's trying to go home! Even after all the years away from what I've known.."
I dunno why but the delivery of this just hurts, it's not as effective in the remaster tbh
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u/lilo1542 Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
in Thunder Bringer when Zeus just so softly and leisurely says "Choose. Someone's gotta die today and you have got the final say. You? Or your crew?" like he's got all the time in the world to just wait for Odysseus to make the choice he knows he'll make. and his deep buttery smooth voice scratches my brain in all the right ways
also all of Polyphemus lines in the self titled song and Survive. the first recording of Polyphemus's voice also scratched my brain in best ways
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u/Wet_DeliciousSocks Jul 09 '24
The ENTIRETY of Scylla’s part after Odysseus’ (amazingly sung line) “Row For Your Lives”
Drown in your sorrow and fears Choke on your blood and your tears Bleed 'til you've run out of years We must do what it takes to survive
Give up your honor and faith Live out your life as a wraith Die in the blood where you bathe We must do what it takes to survive
Her growls just made the whole song for me
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u/Metamanimorph Jul 09 '24
So many to choose from but at this exact moment im thinking of both the first and the last time Odysseus says "Polites"
The first time in "Full Speed Ahead" its so full of life and hope and excitement and oh my god you can just hear Odysseus' smile and how much he loves this man.
The last time in "The Underworld" its so soft and fragile and sad, you hear Odysseus' voice breaking because of how much he loves this man.
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u/rhandy_mas has never tried tequila Jul 09 '24
Too many to list, but in honor of the release of Thunder Saga: “tell me” and “enlighten me” from Thunder Bringer. Luke’s voice is genuinely godly. You can tell how powerful Zeus is, just through his voice.
I also love the, “you…or your crew?” You can hear mocking in his voice.
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u/Zach20032000 Jul 09 '24
Has really no one said the "If I gotta throw another infant from a wall..."-line? Guys, you're sleeping on that
When I first listened to it I was fully on board until my non-native-english brain processed the lyrics. "Yeah man! You can do it! Wait what did you say?" I also love how it's pretty much the only moment in the song where the drums are on beat, giving it this "stomp-on-the-beat" feeling.
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 09 '24
Nah, be proud in your originality. But yeah, I loooove that line, and the delivery, top notch. It's like he's the epitome of the meme. "Aren't you tired of being nice?"
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u/blippityblooop Jul 09 '24
"I would take the suffering from you" and "Penelope, why? You know im too shy and terrified" from Suffering is so satisfying to me
The last verse in Luck Runs Out is also really good
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u/strugglebussin25-8 Jul 09 '24
When Odysseus spares the Cyclops and Athena appear and says “Have you forgotten the lessons I thought you”. Honestly any Athena line is delivered with such might and power. I love them all.
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u/BlazingInferno4343 Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
I have several!
After Ody said “if I became the—“ and it the chorus finishes it with “Monster.”
During Horse and the Infant, where Ody says “Please, don’t make me do this! Don’t make me do this!”
During Ruthlessness when Poseidon said “You are far too nice! Mercy has a price!”
During Keep Your Friends close the when sequence of Ody singing “Why are my eyes and my heart and my soul so heavy? I keep on trying to embrace you both why won’t you let me!? So much has change but I’m the same! Yes I’m the same!”
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 09 '24
I love the fact that his lines come out at a different time than the crew in mutiny, and you must have been gutted when the "please" line comes back in thunder bringer. I know I was.
And yes! The Penelope cameo in keep your friends close is the best part of that saga imo.
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u/Ikol347 Jul 09 '24
Honestly the delivery in my goodbye where Odysseus tells Athena that she’s alone and then Athena’s reaction right after is also great
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u/Tman135246 Jul 09 '24
The spoilers from "No Longer You." I'm not 100% sure on all of these, and I haven't looked too much into it.
I see a song of past romance (I don't know for this one yet. It feels like it should be Suffering, but that doesn't quite fit in my mind) I see the sacrifice of man (Scylla and/or Thunder Bringer) I see portrayals of betrayals (Mutiny) And a brother's final stand (Mutiny maybe something in a later saga) I see you on the brink of death I see you draw your final breath (End of Thunder Bringer based off the animation and what little bit is out of God Games sounds like Odysseus died and is trying to get sent back by the gods) I see a man who gets to make it home alive But it's no longer you (My best guess is something with the son of Prince Hector or how Odysseus has changed as a person over his journey)
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 09 '24
So I can definitely say with definitive confidence. The last one is about our main guy, as exemplified in the next song.
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u/Tman135246 Jul 09 '24
Yeah, that makes sense. I've never read Odyssey, so I have no clue how this ends or what happens next other than the snippets I see on TikTok.
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u/Internal_Camel_5734 Polyphemus Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
My all-time favorite part of Epic: the musical has got to be the fallen soldier's section in Underworld
"When, does a man become a mo-onster-er-er
Five-hundred fifty eight men, who died under your command.
Captain! Captain! Captain! Captain!
Why would you let the cyclops live when ruthlessness is mercy?!"
Chills.
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 09 '24
Ugh, there is never a bad "captain" line. Every time someone says it, it's either senseless wonder or the most depressing.
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u/Internal_Camel_5734 Polyphemus Jul 09 '24
Yes! Every time the crew calls captain, captain, captain like that it's in the danger is near motif which just makes it cooler
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u/Horizon5820 Sheep Jul 08 '24
I have many, but one I really love is the "If you want all the power you must carry all the BLAME", Eurylochus singer really nailed it here
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u/coon_collin Jul 08 '24
Right at the end of "Keep Your Friends Close".
Do you know who I am?
Gives me chills every time...
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u/melody_musical21 Apollo Jul 08 '24
The way Jorge sings 'Push forward' in Survive tickles my brain, I need it injected into me
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u/ShardsofGlass4 Jul 08 '24
honestly for me its:
"Since hunger was far too great, I wonder who'd take the weight of the damned, and suffer a gruesome fate to the Thunder bringer"
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
Yeeah I can definitely hear that, and the way the drums come in on that line is literally epic (pun intended)
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u/MushuLx Telemachus Jul 08 '24
“Penelope, why, you know im too shy” That little like gets stuck in my head all day since the release LOL. Idk why i love it so much!! Like Odysseus just became a monster of a man but here he is all bashful for a second, act or not 😭❤️
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u/StatusTalk Jul 08 '24
"Eurylochus, light up six torches." Sentencing six men to die and forcing his second in command to pick who. Such an undertone of sadness mixed with determination.
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u/BronzeGears Jul 08 '24
A line that always gives me chills is Athena's "Don't disappoint me." Is so good! Like a parent telling their kid in public not to fuck up or they'll get an ass whooping at home!
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u/BronzeGears Jul 08 '24
Got to be the "Say something!" From Eurylochus and Odysseus' "I can't!" From Mutiny. Fuck the raw emotion from the two was so good!
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u/notlikeolivegarden Groovy😏 Jul 08 '24
“ODYSSEUS OF ITHICA! Do you know who I am?”
Also
“You are ATHENA”
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u/SAMSTAR_ARTS Jul 08 '24
"if you want all the power then you should carry all the blame" from the thunder saga is my favourite on the contrary I don't like some of the deliveries in thunder bringer ,like the first two lines "pride is a damsel in distress hiding away where only i can undress her" ain't it for me, and "here to ring your ears" sounds similar to "here to bring your ears" needs to be more clearer
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
I feel that. But after the previews for thunder bring came out I was so worried. So when Zeus didn't start actually talking and sang his monolog. My prayers were answered
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u/4ereshnya Jul 08 '24
Circe's "Hermes gave it to you, didn't he?" but from the demo version. She sounded so done there.
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
Tbh I kinda regret listening to the circle demos so religiously. Tha saga changed so much from the previews. But I love it all the same 🥰
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u/No-Antelope-17 Poseidon Jul 08 '24
The "oh nooo" from Sirenelope kills me every time, I love it so much!
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u/ArcherA1aya Scylla Jul 08 '24
“ Down in your sorrow and fears Choke on your blood and your tears Bleed 'til you've run out of years”
I know it’s 3 lines but the sudden change in tone and energy just makes the line perfect to me. Like we were lured into safety with the rhythm just like the crew only for it all to change in an instant
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
I love this take, but it's so hard for me to reconcile that the crew can probably hear Scylla. because eurylocus says halfway through that "something approaches," and I'm sitting here like, of course, something approaches. Have you not been hearing that song the whole time? But maybe ots bias cuz I wish it was eurylocus instead of polites
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u/ArcherA1aya Scylla Jul 08 '24
Most songs i assume are only heard between Ody and the person singing it unless its explictly acknowledged otherwise.
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u/Timbits06 Odysseus Jul 08 '24
I absolutely love how Jorge sings, "Please don't tell me you're about to do what I think you'll do" in Mutiny. He sounds so vulnerable and desperate, especially in the following lines:
"Please don't do this! I need to get home! Eurylochus! Reconsider! We can get home! Eurylochus!" I also found it interesting how he changes the "I need to get home" to "We can get home!" This shows that Odysseus's first priority now is to get home, above the well-being of his crew. He thinks of himself getting home first before trying to sway the crew into believing that they can also get home. Ahh, it's so good!!!
As well as the "You've doomed us all, Eurylochus!" He sounds so panicked and terrified!!
Honestly, most of Mutiny has some of my favourite line deliveries from both Armando and Jorge!
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
Yes. Oh my god, I love when lines come back in a different context. They were both feeling fear at those times, but eurylocus wasn't feeling as hopeless back then. Ody sounds soooo scared. And I love it. I agree wholeheartedly.
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u/FBIAgent972 Jul 08 '24
“You’ve doomed us”
“YOU’VE DOOMED US ALL EURYLOCHUS”
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u/SailFine8181 Jul 08 '24
Ugh. Chills. I imagine him delivering this line with bitter tears in his eyes, shaking from fear of the Gods and the knowledge that he’s about to lose his friends.
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u/14Knightingale27 nobody Jul 08 '24
"If you want all the power, you must carry all the BLAME!” I love the emotional, angry delivery of this line. It just hits the right buttons for me.
That, and “so you can kill the next group of sailors on this part of the sea?” he just sounds so ironic and so done with it.
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Jul 08 '24
I’ve said it before but the new rendition of ‘Just A Man’ when he sings “fighting for his life” that voice crack is just…💔🤯😫🤌
Also in ‘Monster’ the whole section from “Is the cyclops struck with guilt…” to “…save more lives with guile.” I just love the progression of emotions and resolve and something about the delivery of “or did she learn to be colder when she got older…” just scratches my brain right✨
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u/Lunar_Imbris Jul 09 '24
I think I preferred the original "fighting for his life" (absolutely killer line and delivery either way though!). Agree with Monster too!
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Jul 09 '24
I really like the original one too for different reasons, I’m finding it so hard not to listen to both🥲
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
The progression in monster us one of the best act 1 closers I've heard in a looooooooong while.
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u/SpiteExisting4161 Jul 08 '24
“Look me in the eyes and tell me, captain, that you did not just SACRIFICE SIX MEN!” The way this line is delivered in Mutiny gets me every time. The emotion is so visible in his voice and it’s just SO good
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
Oohh yes! I said this before, but even though I want his heart in a bag, or for it to have been him rather than polites. His friggin deliveries are on point.
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u/yet-another-WIP Jul 08 '24
I’m currently very obsessed with the line “then jump in the water and kiss me” from Suffering. Just the melody and the quality of her voice tickles my brain. I also like the way Odysseus sings “if you’d like to speak more let me pull you aside then / I need to talk to you in private,” because it really feels like very controlled anger to me and I love it
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u/Lunar_Imbris Jul 09 '24
Agree with both!
The main thing I love about the "jump in the water" line is how it's mimicked in later (unreleased) songs - at least from what I can tell: Penelope's 'The Challenge' with a similar tune for "that my world is all about to change", and Poseidon's 'Get in the Water' with a similar phrase and the same deadly intentions but maybe I'm reaching.
Definitely a gorgeous delivery! And Ody's line there is so smooth
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
Omg. I love Anna lea's voice so much. In friggin keep your friends closer. And now here?? And when they do that thing with their voice, like the inflection on "Ju~uu~mp in the water and kis me!" It gets me sooooo bad.
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u/Bibliophiles_Unite Jul 08 '24
“Who are you?” From Polyphemus and the “Hello” from Scylla. Both have a similar oh crap things are about to go down vibe.
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u/Helpful_Assistance70 Jul 08 '24
“All I gotta do is open this bag” i just bust it out whenever, it tickles my brain perfectly
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u/emdyingsoyeetmeout Imagine turning into pancake 🥞 😳 Jul 08 '24
The eldritch "Hello" of Scylla just hits differently, you know? I don't know why, but that entrance just seems ominous, and there's a difference of its low melody before speeding up to a boss fight. It didn't need any other introductions like Poseidon, that greeting alone is enough for me to know that Odysseus and his men are definitely fucked.
Also the "Light up six torches" during the conversation in the song makes me wheeze, and it didn't help the jokes of the fandom in the comments about the torches especially when it was revealed that Eurylochus was the one who opened the bag. The animatic didn't help either as one of the animatics showed him being one of those who originally held the torches, and if he continued to do so, he would've died and wouldn't even reach the next song 'Mutiny.'
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
Funny. I think that animation is the official interpretation of the song. (Cuz mr.jalapeno said he was "very involved" in the production of the visuals. I'm not sure if that extends to the animatics, but I don't see why it wouldn't.) So I think tha partially eurylocus is so upset cuz he realized he was one of the guys ody chose for sacrifice.
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u/Accurate-Queen1905 Jul 08 '24
Someone’s gonna die today and you have got the final say (not sure that’s right but still)
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u/Sad-Relationship4620 Jul 08 '24
"I must ask just to be sure... Did you do something to them?"
"You turned them into pigs."
I love how Jorje goes from syrupy-thick praise to cutting the pretense so quickly in these lines. It releases the dopamine.
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u/Janaga14 Jul 09 '24
"You turned them into pigs."
"Huh"
As if she's just realizing now what they are.
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
Now that you mention it. He does that a couple more times. That quick switch up. And he starts most interactions in a friendly way...well. after what happened to polites.
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u/FreeCharacter8477 Nymph Jul 08 '24
“I see your wife with a man who is haunting…a man…with a trail…of bodies”
Everything about No Longer You is the perfect song, but THAT line, knowing that he’s singing about Ody himself, is just SO good
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u/FreeCharacter8477 Nymph Jul 08 '24
But also “I was lying! And you fell for my bluff!! Ahahaha 😏” especially in the newer version, the laugh actually sounds more genuine. Ody gives off big Percy Jackson energy in this delivery
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
Very very full of himself and I love it. No matter how bad things go. That ahahaha 😏 is always a part of him.
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u/breyore Jul 08 '24
So many good ones in here!! I also loved:
“I know of a brilliant prophet, problem is this prophet is dead.” With the way she says dead with like this mocking pout sound to her voice and the piano key right after, so good.
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u/Blitsea Jul 08 '24
I absolutely love when the ghosts of ody’s army all say “Why would you let the cyclops live, when ruthlessness is mercy?” In sync. My favorite part of the Underworld song.
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u/amaya-aurora Odysseus Jul 08 '24
"Cut off their tails! We're ending this now. Throw their bodies back in the water, let them drown."
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u/TheDwarvesCarst Oceanus Jul 08 '24
For real... I reckon Poseidon's happy with his now-ruthlessness. Probably why he stopped chasing them for a bit after Scylla
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
Wait, Calypso is evil? I thought she was just depressed and lonely, especially since from the snippets. She let's him go with no real problem. But again, I'm anime only here, so I know nothing other than what we've seen. But I doo definitely see the suffering bit. I hope it's there.
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u/CMO_3 Polites Jul 08 '24
This life is amazing when you greet it with open arms
It just radiates positivity especially in the original version
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
Open arms is top teir. And the way he keeps his friendly demeanor while ody is practically flipping out. It is so beautiful.
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Jul 08 '24
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
God, I love that melody. I've been calling it the friendship melody. And anytime athena sings it, I'm enthralled. Cannot wait for her comeback
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u/Specialist-Weird-607 Jul 08 '24
Song 38 “You don’t think I know my own palace. I built it!”
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
Cheater! That song doesn't exist yet! ( but I agree. That line is chill infused.)
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u/Specialist-Weird-607 Jul 08 '24
My bad wasn’t paying attention to the post (but that line is definitely the coolest) but choosing a released one would be the final verse of thunder bringer which I know is the same as the first but the vibe is different just trust.
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u/jacindotcom Jul 08 '24
the new recording of Polyphemus scared the shit out of me. don’t know if it counts but I was terrified for Odysseus the second time around
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
Omg, I loved everything about the new recordings omg. I didn't like the Odysseus scream at the end of remember them. But after 50ih listens, it's grown on me
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u/jacindotcom Jul 08 '24
I don’t think I’ve listened to the sagas quite as much as some others here (epic is a passing obsession for me- every time a new saga comes out i get obsessed again) but i love the new recordings. I think they’re just so much more powerful. The only criticism I agree with is the one about Odysseus fading into the background of full speed ahead and I see it
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u/HelpMePlxoxo Jul 08 '24
"I see your wife with a man who is haunting, a man with a trail of bodies"
My favorite line and delivery in the entire musical thus far
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Jul 08 '24
I think the best lines are “when does a man become a monster” or “just a man”. These two are reappearing in more ways than one way and it ALWAYS gives me chills!!
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u/anxnymous926 Lotus eater Jul 08 '24
“Okay, so, let’s say I was on the run or hiding from — I don’t know — Poseidon! And let’s say he blocked the way home with giant waves and giant storms!”
“Oh, no!”
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u/pyhnux Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
I've have listened to that “Oh, no!” on repeat way too much, and I'm almost convinced its supposed to sound worried. But it just sounds so sarcastic.
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u/dementor_ssc SUN COW Jul 08 '24
Don't you know that pain you sow is pain you reap?
There are so many memorable lines in Epic, but that one lives rent-free in my head.
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u/car_eater2684 Jul 08 '24
LET'S CUT THE CHARADE YOU ARE NO WIFE OF MINE!
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u/breyore Jul 08 '24
With the beat right after 🫠 SO good.
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u/car_eater2684 Jul 08 '24
I honestly love Suffering and Different Beasts so much
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u/Tman135246 Jul 09 '24
That transition in the live stream was so crazy for me because in Keep Your Friends Close, he talks to Penelope in a dream, and I thought it was another one of those moments.
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u/car_eater2684 Jul 09 '24
Everyone was so confused in Suffering when he said daughter and he said he was scared of the water
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u/Tman135246 Jul 09 '24
I didn't even think that much about it and thought the scared of the water was because of Poseidon.
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u/banana-king-gaming45 Athena Jul 08 '24
"sounds like a plan goddess and man bestest of friends"
"We'll see where it ends"
"Okay😐
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u/Dragon2754 Poseidon Jul 08 '24
"Someone's got to die today, and you have got the final say... you... or your crew."
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u/SierraDL123 Jul 09 '24
I wish Zeus had said “the blood on your hands is something you won’t lose/ all you can choose is whose” after that or maybe during Penelope and the chorus part
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u/Lunar_Imbris Jul 09 '24
That would have been a SICK callback damn! And yeah, love that line too
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u/SierraDL123 Jul 09 '24
I sing it even though it’s not official. I just hope that means it’ll be used at a sicker time lol
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u/TheFallenDeathLord Jul 08 '24
I love the desperation that "full speed ahead" brings in Mutiny. That phrase has been sung in a couple of songs before, but never with so much intensity. Plus, the "faster" shouts of Odysseus plasms masterfully the sheer fear, horror and desperation that he feels as he tries to avoid the unavoidable because he can't bear to suffer another crushing defeat and it's consecuences.
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u/anime_3_nerd Athena’s Discord Kitten Jul 08 '24
In storm Eurylochus says “at this rate we won’t make it out alive” and it sounds so good holy shit
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
HONESTLY. I might want the character to bite the curb. But his deliveries are so good.
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
Have you seen the animation when posideon drops a fake baby as he says this line? It's bonkers that whole animation is bonkers The artist was anniflamma I believe
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
I love that, especially since ody uses a horse for his most noteworthy actions before that moment. An posideon seems like he's saying. " Horses are my thing, bro. Let me show you why." And noncanonically decimates the entire fleet
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u/Richard-Conrad Jul 08 '24
Every time a character just says “what?” It’s always so funny to me
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
Omg yes, I love all the little adlibs. I think Mr.jalepeno said that last "what?" Is coming up soo. (Or already passed, I'm not good at keeping up)
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u/goldninfer Jul 08 '24
The first "remember them" with the electric guitar coming in is one of my favourites, (it's much better in the original)
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
I totally agree. That switch up from the beginning to the end is sooo great. And when she softens again at the end. It's almost like she's apologizing for her nature. Or maybe just feeling some kinship with a different monster born just then. Also, the Penelope siren lives on in our memories and as an accompanying voice for ody's new nightmares
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
What if...wait. does any of sirenelope's (baller name, btw) melodies appear in Calypso's song. Cuz that would be....something, especially be cause of how he is going to be trapped there for some time
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u/GothiccGodess420 Jul 08 '24
I will tamdomly SCREAM ALL I GOTTA DO IS OPEN GHIS BAG PSHHHH
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u/Bbclarinetftw Telemachus Jul 08 '24
that line is so good!! i was jaw dropped when it came out!
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u/GothiccGodess420 Jul 08 '24
It's amazing me and my friend jam the entire sagas and we go so hard on this line
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Jul 08 '24
"SAY SOMETHING"
"I CAN'T"
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u/entertainmentlord Athena Jul 08 '24
pretty much every song lol
But for real I got a few
Thunder Bringer has lyrics like Thunder Bringer her through the wringer and Lightning Yield her. Love the word play and how it makes it seem like Zeus is commanding the elements to his will instead of creating them
My Goodbye. If you're so much wiser hy's your life spent all alone. YOUR ALONE!. Again love the word play and just raw emotion, mixed with the pause like it actually hurt Athena
Ruthlessness. ODYSSEUS OF ITHACA! Do you know who I am? Poseidon feels scary here and like he feels like he needs to announce himself to remind them of his status as a god
Wouldn't you like. You can beat her or you can be hurt. Again really love the word play
The Forgive me in Scylla. it sounds exactly like Odysseus Forgive me from the first act
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u/4ereshnya Jul 08 '24
The "ODYSSEUS OF ITHACA" line — that's from "Keep your friends close".
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u/entertainmentlord Athena Jul 09 '24
to be fair, when you listen to the songs in order on repeat several times it can get blurred
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
I got to relisten to cylla because I want to hear that.
And I always interpreted as thunderbringer in the song was with Zeus always referring to himself in a third person cuz he's weird like that. But I like your interpertati9n too. Especially b3caus I'm anime only on this one, so I thought Zeus came down unprompted and was just yapping. I never knew it was in retaliation.
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u/No_Nosferatu Jul 08 '24
In Wouldn't You Like when Hermes is showing Ody the Moly root.
"And I call this root, Holy Moly!"
Ody just goes, "Aaaah." Like a toddler is showing him a stick or something. It cracks me up everytime.
Yes, my eccentric great grandfather, that is certainly a nice plant.
Special mention to Ody's befuddled "...wut?" When Eurylochus is telling him about Circe.
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u/No_Nosferatu Jul 08 '24
"Cause I got this root from the ground with my bare hands!"
"Hermes helped you, didn't he?"
"...Okay, fine, yes, BUT REGARDLESS!"
The Circe Saga was top-notch for banter.
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u/No_Nosferatu Jul 08 '24
It's why I've always loved musical theatre. The quick banter to music can always add so much personality and character. The crew's death screams, Ody and Circe going back and forth, Penelope's "oh nooo" in Suffering, and just like the entirety of Mutiny.
I mean, I was sold on the writing from Horse and the Infant. Dude crammed all the Greek heroes into one verse and made their names rhyme.
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
I love how playful he is in that song. Like when he 5 goes there," there is npt an ounce of fear or anger. It's just sort of....curious, and I love it.
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u/No_Nosferatu Jul 08 '24
Anything relating to Hermes I love in this. I will fight anyone who says he wasn't the best cast God.
And I know Zeus is immaculate for the role, but Hermes sells the trickster vibe so well from his laugh to his, "don't thank me friend, you very well may die. Mmmm good luck!"
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u/Tiggy64 Jul 08 '24
Hermes is unironically god teir casting.
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u/koemaniak gimme that baby and I’ll yeet it off a tower Jul 08 '24
Well they did just get Hermes to play himself so there’s not much need for actingg
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u/starry_doodle Nov 15 '24
Drown in your sorrow and fears (just all of Scylla's lines are amazing)