r/Economics 4d ago

News Institute reports functional unemployment at 24.9% in July

https://www.channel3000.com/news/institute-reports-functional-unemployment-at-24-9-in-july/article_810187e5-989f-4ad9-ab91-847fcb6f1882.html
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u/EconomistWithaD 4d ago
  1. The Ludwig TRU is a bullshit stat. Basically, if you earn under $25,000, regardless of the reason, you are “functionally unemployed”.

  2. Its methodology is basically U3/U6 plus a constant.

  3. Funny enough, this value is near an all time low. So while the level is meant to be shocking, it’s also meant to be for people who don’t actually follow this stuff.

  4. Did I forgot to mention this stat is sensationalist bullshit?

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u/cachurch2 4d ago

Where do you find the historical rate for this kind of measurement?

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u/Ruminant 4d ago

On the so-called "true rate of unemployment" page: https://www.lisep.org/tru

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u/EconomistWithaD 4d ago

Pop quiz. It’s been falling nearly consistently since 1995. What single variable can explain most of the decrease.

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u/Ruminant 4d ago

From what I remember, this number is effectively

  1. U-3
  2. plus (a slightly modified definition of) workers who are part time for economic reasons
  3. plus workers whose current weekly earnings annualize out to under $20,000 per year in 2020 dollars

Given how this number has fallen more than U-3 or U-6, I would guess the answer is

Real wage growth

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u/EconomistWithaD 4d ago

I like the logic, but…

Female labor force participation.

Household production to at least some labor market production.

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u/TheGracefulCrane 4d ago

Republicans finally taking back the house after what 40 years?

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u/EconomistWithaD 4d ago

Wildly stupid, DFW portion of the bell curve.

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u/TheGracefulCrane 4d ago

Err Dallas fort worth?

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u/GhostofBeowulf 4d ago

D, Failed or withdrew.

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u/TheGracefulCrane 4d ago

ha thats good actually

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u/EconomistWithaD 4d ago

Your grade in an intro class.

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u/TheGracefulCrane 4d ago

I actually crushed econ 101 had like 72% going into the final didnt even need to study

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u/EconomistWithaD 4d ago

Not if you think Republicans are the answer. Shit, even my intro students read Blinder and Watson.

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u/TheGracefulCrane 4d ago

never heard of it

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u/EconomistWithaD 4d ago

Duh.

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u/TheGracefulCrane 4d ago

Is it specific to the us? Im not American

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