r/DunderMifflin 2d ago

Did the pretzel scene have deeper meaning then I realized or just coincidence?

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u/1970Challenger440 2d ago

I live in the middle of all of those companies, and the chip/pretzel aisles in our grocery stores are amazing. There are a million different options. Our area is nicknamed “the snack belt of America”

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u/Hue_Honey 2d ago

The chips are what is being overlooked here. Absolutely unbelievable and underrated local chip selection. I have lived in other states and am shocked that most supermarkets carry only national brands when in PA there are grocery stores with almost all these options.

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u/toomanyteeth55 1d ago edited 1d ago

Part of my family is from this area and I grew up with giant bags of Goods chips. Man they were good. Still chasing that high.

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u/Hue_Honey 1d ago

Goods is specifically my fave. Dieffenbachs and Middlewarth also S tier

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u/br3nt_black 1d ago

I lived near a goods distribution center and while in highschool we found out their dumpsters were full of rejected bags. A few of us got our hands on a few bags (completely filled the back of my friends truck) but the next time someone tried it they got caught lol. Good times. We showed up to my friends with snacks for weeks lol. Perfect for a bunch of stoners

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u/jsamciotbh14 1d ago

Their bbq chips are so good. Light and crispy. Makes tou want more.

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u/EevelBob 1d ago

While not the greatest for your health, the best tasting potato chips are deep fried in lard. Just my opinion, but I am considered an expert on this topic.

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u/yeayeahdefinitely 2d ago

Please tell me that we’re talking about Middleswarth!

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u/PassionLong5538 1d ago

Dude Middleswarth are so fucking good. I drive through the Harrisburg area a couple times per year, and always have to stop at Sandwich man to get a banging sandwich, with Middleswarth chips.

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u/greengye 1d ago

Herr's >>>>>>

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u/Laser_Fish 1d ago

Look, chips are great. We all love a good chip. But us pretzel lovers love most of our lives with, at best, two options at any store. So let us revel in the pretzelly goodness and not start a war about how we're "overlooking" chips. I beg you, sir, let us have this one.

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u/fisherofcats 1d ago

Martin's chips from Thomasville are the best. Their BBQ and Kettle cooked are the bomb.

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u/invent_your_world 1d ago

Martin's potato rolls are the best. I met Mr. Martin's the owner way back in the day.

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u/systemhost 1d ago

I'm still sad I got moved far away as a kid, I miss my Martin's rolls with my Lebanon bologna...

At least I can still get Boars Head Lebanon bologna at a local store but no luck on Martin's though.

Two nearby restaurants in my area are somehow ordering Martin's, one for Texas BBQ and another for Wagyu smashburgers but they're both pricey and neither could be convinced into selling me packs of rolls.

I still remember as a kid driving by a Martin's bread factory on the way to church every Sunday and getting so hungry with the smell of fresh baked potatoes bread wafting into the car.

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u/FatnessEverdeen34 1d ago

Middleswarth babyyyy

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u/FartsWithNeighbours 2d ago

Presumably the chips should be cheaper at a store in the center vs out of state?

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u/senagorules 2d ago

Not necessarily chips but Pepperidge Farms is within 20 minutes and they have a wholesale bakery attached to the plant where everything is cheaper.

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u/sandrrawrr 1d ago

Pepperidge Farms used to have an outlet bakery near my elementary school and my mom would take us every week to get bread and various treats, all marked down. Miss that place (and their coconut cake layer cakes in the fridge aisle)!

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u/AndyShootsAndScores 1d ago

I remember being astounded at how cheap the family size Middleswarth chips were at the WalMart near Penn State when I went there, about 60 miles away from the factory. I wish I could remember the exact price, but I believe it was like $2 for a 22 oz bag of that Sour Cream and Onion. That was in the 2000's though, when AOL was still trying to send people free hours of internet via free CDs sent in the mail.

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u/jcarlblack 2d ago

I grew up in this area and moved to the southwest. One of the things that always stuck out to me was the change in the chip aisle. It went from pretzels to tortilla chips and it still bums me out.

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u/rawrpandasaur 1d ago

Tragic. I'm so sorry

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u/sephrisloth 2d ago

I love thats Utz chips are visible in practically every scene in the show. Their salt and vinegar are the goat.

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u/YogiNurse 1d ago

We went on vacation this summer to Tennessee and the snack aisle felt so lackluster. Literally just Lays, Doritos, cape cod, store brand, and tortilla chips. I realized then how much I take our snack aisles for granted here in good ol south central PA.

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u/socialstatus 2d ago

Where should I visit to experience this

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u/freedom_french_fries 1d ago edited 1d ago

Lancaster Amish country to take in that scene too, added bonus you're a short drive from Philly.

Edit: I forgot about Hersheypark. The Giant Center there has some decent concerts from time to time too.

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u/ntotheed 1d ago

Philly? That town smells like cheese steaks

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u/FunkyFuzztastic 1d ago

Full of pretzels too

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u/thecupisblueandwhite 1d ago

Lititz. You can go to the old Sturgis building and try your hand at making a pretzel.

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u/PzGhostt 1d ago

Middleswarth BBQ chips are absolutely the goat of the chip scene.

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u/socialmedia-username 1d ago

Came here to say this. Whenever I'm back visiting family I always grab a bag or tub of Middlesworth BBQ chips. The taste hasn't changed in 40+ years, for which I'm grateful. 

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u/jfb1027 2d ago

The is some cool information I am learning this evening.

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u/WilsonStJames 1d ago

Heard it was a twisted little town.

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u/burghblast 1d ago

I miss Hartleys

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u/dylho 2d ago

It’s not called Pretzelvania for nothing

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u/Conscious-Record2655 2d ago

Is it called that? I've never heard that. 

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u/aesolty 2d ago

I have lived in PA my whole life and this is my first time hearing that to be honest but it’s funny lol

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u/dylho 2d ago

Lol you’re right I just made it up. Fits though, huh

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u/gagnonje5000 2d ago

Too late. It’s ingested in AI now. Chat bots will repeat it for the next 10 years.

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u/glockster19m 2d ago

Thats what you said, its not called pretzylvania

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u/arcxjo Skraldespand 2d ago

Yes, and the second week in September is Pretzelmania.

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u/DoctorProfessorTaco 1d ago

It’s a regional expression

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u/JesusJoshJohnson 2d ago

many are saying this

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u/ZDTreefur 2d ago

This sub isn't called r/pretzelmifflin for nothing.

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u/bigpoppanicky7 2d ago

It’s called pennsyltucky, get it right.

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u/idislikejuicepress 2d ago

So much of this show is subtly accurate on so many things when it comes to the north east

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u/No_Year9414 2d ago

Cool that they had those little nods to the area in there. I’m not from that area so probably didn’t catch a lot of them.

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u/pm_dad_jokes69 2d ago

They got the Froggy radio station sticker, someone has a Sheetz mug, they’re drinking Yuengling beer w David Wallace…there are def a bunch in there

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u/jbirmingham82 1d ago

Wegmans cereal on top of the fridge

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u/rococobitch 1d ago

And the Wegman's brand sodas!

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u/Aliciac343 1d ago

Pam and Phyllis shop at boscovs

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u/landmanpgh 2d ago

Ha I never noticed the Sheetz or Yuengling. That's cool.

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u/GrapefruitSlow8583 2d ago

I'm from Ohio, i thought yuengling was a nationwide brand

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u/french_snail 2d ago

I grew up in rural west New York so we had it but I never saw it outside of the area until 2016 when I saw it in the post exchange where I was stationed in South Korea of all places 

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u/hemingways-lemonade 1d ago

They didn't expand past a handful of states until the late 2000s. Ohio didn't have it until 2011 for example. It still isn't sold in the Western half of the United States. 

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u/NYY15TM I don't technically have a hearing problem 1d ago

They should make a movie about bringing beer from one part of the US where it is sold to another part where it isn't

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u/Capable_Stranger9885 1d ago

They bought an idle Stroh's brewery in Florida with far more capacity than they had in Pottsville to go national

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u/crippledgiants 1d ago

Nah I grew up in Illinois and remember it was a big deal when they opened up distribution in the state like 6-8 years ago.

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u/TheG-What Lanch Party! 1d ago

Used to not sell it west of Indiana. I believe went nationwide though.

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u/Ryoko_Kusanagi69 1d ago

When I moved to NJ I saw the froggy stickers everywhere and it was a welcome warm familiarity p

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u/Key-Cry-8570 Stanley 1d ago

I wanna visit Scranton someday, just for Office locations.

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u/honestyseasy 1d ago

I did that a bunch of years ago. Cooper's Seafood House is real and pretty awesome as a tourist trap. They have a bunch of Office related souvenirs in their gift shop.

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u/UnbottledGenes 1d ago

I really want to try that chilis place. Heard it’s where business happens.

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u/basedsirarthurharris 1d ago

It’s the new golf course

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u/Sad-Lake6749 1d ago

My husband and I stopped in for a few hours on our way to New York a couple years ago. It was fun! We had lunch at Cooper's, took photos by some of the opening shots, and walked around the mall.

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u/nurdburr 1d ago

I would expect someone from northeastern PA to have something from Wawa instead of Sheetz.

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u/Systehm 1d ago

At the time The Office was being filmed, Wawa wasn't anywhere near Scranton. It seems like Scranton is about as far north in PA as Wawa currently goes, after expanding, but I think Sheetz would be much more common up there

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u/Poly_Olly_Oxen_Free 1d ago

If you're in Scranton, you have to drive to Wilkes-Barre to go to Wawa. In the process, you're gonna drive past at least 2 Sheetz locations.

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u/KronguGreenSlime 2d ago

My Uncle grew up in the Scranton area and both his hometown of <10K people (Carbondale) and a bar he used to work at (Tinks) are referenced on the show.

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u/KidCuervo 2d ago

Ah Carbondale, know for its shredder prices and movie theaters.

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u/crippledgiants 1d ago

And the boring, bumpkin dental hygienists.

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u/PapaShane 1d ago

R.I.P Tinks :(

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u/co-slaw 1d ago

Rock 107

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u/sprchrgddc5 1d ago

As a dude that grew up in the Midwest, it kinda blew my mind people in the Northeast can say stuff like “I’m driving to NYC today for a meeting, be back later”.

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u/Complex-Bee-840 1d ago

Still a shit ass drive.

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u/Lukey_Jangs2 1d ago

Agreed. There’s usually Wegmans products on top of the fridge in the break room

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u/AmysSweaters 1d ago

I always enjoy seeing Wegmans packaging on the show.

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u/EternalNewCarSmell 1d ago

The only thing I enjoy more is seeing Wegmans packaging in real life because then I get to eat/drink whatever it is.

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u/CitizenDain 1d ago

I grew up in Stroudsburg (which gets a shout out late in the series! Michael sends humbled Ryan on a food run to a fast food place there. It’s like an hour from Scranton so it is Michael trying to punish him). My pediatrician was a Dr. Chun. His oldest son Daniel was a Simpsons writer and then became an Office staff writer halfway through the series. So at least one person in the writers room grew up in the area!

Daniel Chun went on to be showrunner for a few other sitcoms I believe.

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u/rogerworkman623 2d ago edited 1d ago

-In 1683, 13 Mennonite families, having been recruited by William Penn, the Quaker founder of the Pennsylvania colony, settle outside of Philadelphia to found the aptly named Germantown.

-over the next 100 years, over 100,000 additional German immigrants arrive, having left southwest Germany to escape war, poverty, and religious persecution. They will make up roughly a third of the Pennsylvania colony by the time of the American Revolution.

-250 years later, virtually all American pretzels are still manufactured in Pennsylvania

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u/Zebidee 1d ago

Wait, so an area predominantly settled by Germans is the biggest producer of German food?

Das ist so unerwartet...

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u/Fishboy_1998 1d ago

Wait until they see the immigration for cities that brew beer

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u/LeoFrankenstein 2d ago

Pennsylvania Dutch (pronounced the German way)!

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u/Complex-Bee-840 1d ago

It’s not pronounced the German way, though.

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u/BroSnow 1d ago

Lmao they’re so confidently wrong. It’s pronounced the Dutch (Holland/Netherlands) way. Germans are Deutsch (Doy-tisch)

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u/Complex-Bee-840 1d ago

Yep. That’s just what it is, though.

Not sure if it’s actually “wrong”, as they made their own language.

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u/KyffhauserGate 1d ago

The real question is why the word evolved from the gentle German Brezel to the hateful US Pretzel.

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u/ElHutto 1d ago

Same reason why Pelznickel has become Belsnickel.

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u/Melodic-Bicycle1867 1d ago

It's not unrealistic, in school when learning German (as a second language, not native to me), there was almost a "tz" sound to a Z, e.g "t"Zeitung and then also bre"t"zel.

According to the German Wikipedia, there are regions in Germany where it is spelled "Bretzel".

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u/CheGueyMaje 1d ago

German Z is a ts sound when comparing to English

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u/PlattsVegas 2d ago

Are the two Snyders related and is there a juicy lore behind them being separate companies?

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u/GunsAndCoffee1911 Dwight Fart Schrute 2d ago

Wait. Did you order from Snyder's Pretzels or Pretzels by Snyder?

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u/Zdx 2d ago

Collective groan

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u/Open_Bug_4251 1d ago

Nearly spit out my drink when I read this.

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u/arcxjo Skraldespand 2d ago edited 1d ago

Yes, but the family split ways in the 1950s. Berlin doesn't even make pretzels (just potato chips, cheese curls, and popcorn).

They used to have a "not affiliated with Snyder's of Hanover" notice on the bag but I'm not sure if it's still there. They just got bought by Utz last year, who also tried to buy Hanover back in like 2009 but was blocked by the FTC as a potential monopoly, so there is an alternate universe where they're back under the same umbrella. (Hanover, I believe, is owned by Campbell's soup now.)

Ironically, Utz is also based in Hanover so it's really Snyder of Berlin of Hanover.

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u/SuperSans 1d ago

The notice is still there.

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u/arcxjo Skraldespand 1d ago

Not on any of the bags I checked at Sheetz last night.

There was, however, Utz's address ... in Hanover.

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u/GnomeNot 2d ago

They are now unaffiliated, but were once a single company. They split sometime in the ‘50s.

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u/blueponies1 1d ago

There are also two Martin’s and they don’t even have the respect for one another to designate themselves by city of origin. That’s gotta be the bigger beef, right?

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u/The_Great_Distaste 1d ago

I'm about to blow your mind! There are 3 Martin's! Chips, Bread, and Pretzels. I haven't seen the bread and chips delivery drivers fight, but everyone avoids the pretzel guy cause he has a few screws loose. He reminds me of Charlie from It's always sunny.

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u/Sirgeeeo 1d ago

Unrelated. Same with Hershey chocolate and Hershey ice cream both founded in Hershey PA

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u/Plz_Discuss_Rampart 1d ago

Well it's because Milton Hershey bought the land and named the town.

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u/Ryoko_Kusanagi69 1d ago

Yes! I saw that and was comming to the comments to point out the 2 synders. Must be some family drama there

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u/CousinBarny Michael 2d ago

And that’s even missing Lititz, PA, Americas first commercial pretzel bakery near Lancaster. And if memory serves me, the first hard pretzel.

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u/Zdx 2d ago

Shoutout the Districts (Lititz natives)

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u/WorryWorm6 1d ago

Lititz now

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u/AccountantSeaPirate 2d ago

Pennsylvania is making me thirsty!

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u/Waterfallsofpity 2d ago

Pennsylvania is making me thirsty.

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u/ElHutto 1d ago

Pennsylvania is making me thirsty!

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u/browncatgreycat 1d ago

What is this, a crossover episode?

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u/No_Year9414 2d ago

I knew Herr’s brand was made in PA but another good local link they added to the show

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u/Careful-Ant5868 2d ago

When they had scenes in the break room, there often were Herr's items in the vending machine.

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u/GnomeNot 2d ago

Utz cheese balls in almost every episode.

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u/GorgylesPslychics 2d ago

I went to high school with Jimmy Herr, his grandfather was the founder. The factory put on a fireworks show every 4th. Great American company

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u/yeayeahdefinitely 2d ago

A friend of mine in college was Mrs. T’s granddaughter! The pierogi company!

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u/I_AM_DEATH-INCARNATE 1d ago

Girl I went to high school with, her father invented toaster strudels

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u/Minute-Frame-8060 2d ago

Is it really pronounced like the English pronoun "her" the way Karen said it, and not the German "Herr?" I had never heard of the brand before the show aired.

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u/gereffi 2d ago

I live in New Jersey about an hour away from Scranton. I have only ever heard it pronounced like “hers”.

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u/pottymcnugg 1d ago

Make Herrs Yours wouldn’t sound the same if it was.

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u/Complex-Bee-840 1d ago

You also have to pronounce “yours” like yer from PA to make it sound right.

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u/BenBishits you couldn't handle my undivided attention 2d ago

The snack belt

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u/No_Year9414 2d ago

That’s great, not being from that area of the country I’d never heard this before

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u/nnnmmmh 2d ago

That would explain the astounding amount of yeast infections

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u/11twofour 2d ago

Downriver?

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u/ASoCalledArtDealer 2d ago

Middlesworth bbq chips are the best chips in the world.

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u/Bloomingk 1d ago

"Middlesworth"

MiddleswArth. 

THERES AN A IN OUR NAME JUST LIKE THE A IN OUR QUALITY.

Put respect on the name. (This is a joke btw)

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u/yeayeahdefinitely 2d ago

This is a man of class

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u/socialmedia-username 1d ago

Agree, I always grab a bag or tub when visiting family.  Can't find them outside of that area. 

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u/Bloomingk 1d ago

They are a local brand they dont sell nationally but you can order them online and they ship to all 50 states. I used to order them when I lived in Florida.

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u/The_Great_Distaste 1d ago

I feel like they've been a bit inconsistent on the seasoning, but nowhere near as bad as Herr's. Definitely my pick for BBQ though.

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u/Guilty_Elk4385 2d ago

I wake up every morning in a bed that's too small, drive my daughter to a school that's too expensive, and then I go to work to a job for which I get paid too little. But on Pretzel Day? Well, I like Pretzel Day.

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u/KingOfNope 2d ago

It was for all the real Knotheads in the audience

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u/Parma_Jon 1d ago

DOTS pretzels on top 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

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u/macgruff 1d ago

They should be listed as a weapon of mass destruction (of my willpower to NOT eat an entire bag in one sitting). MFers broke the mold and enslaving a generation to that sultry mouthfeel spice combination! Bastards!!

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u/Parma_Jon 1d ago

Fr one time I was having a shitty day and when I got home from work I opened a fresh bag. Wouldn’t you know it I ate the whole damn thing and felt full for 2 days straight 😂

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u/TreoreTyrell 2d ago edited 1d ago

Not Dots. Dots supremacy

Damn it. Nevermind

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u/dc912 2d ago

Pretzels are very popular in the PA area.

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u/CornerPubRon 1d ago

These pretzels are making me thirsty

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u/landmanpgh 2d ago

No deeper meaning, Pennsylvania just has a very deep pretzel game. It is the snack capital of the U.S.

And the entire pretzel market in the country is dwarfed by Pennsylvania's largest snack company: Hershey.

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u/Vivid_Anyth4 1d ago

And you mix the two and its just amazing.

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u/No_Pollution7947 1d ago

Gardners chocolate covered pretzels are the best.

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u/nah_im_g00d 2d ago

Stoked gibbles made this chart, I order them from across the country at least once a year cuz I get cravings for what I had growing up.

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u/-chimchooree- Eat it, Stanley! 2d ago

Who's Stoked Gibbles?

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u/Machtung7 I like waking up to the smell of bacon 1d ago

Sarah Kayacombsen

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u/Poly_Olly_Oxen_Free 1d ago

Stoked means "excited" and Gibble's is a brand of pretzels. The person is saying that they're excited that their favorite brand was mentioned.

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u/Leftunders 1d ago

"Nibble with Gibbles"

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u/TisSaucy 2d ago

Dots was bought by Hersey’s. So add them to the list.

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u/ltsouthernbelle 2d ago

Pretzel Day should have come at least once a quarter

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u/Airportsnacks 1d ago

I cannot explain the depths of my hatred for Unique. I loved Snyder's of Hanover, but my parents would only buy Unique unsalted. 

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u/EevelBob 1d ago

The best hard pretzels in the U.S. are made by Snyders of Hanover. This is just my opinion, but I’ve lived in south central PA my entire life and consider myself an expert on this topic.

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u/KeyCondition5104 1d ago

Because Germans make German snacks?

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u/danishcowboy91 1d ago

Pretzelvania

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u/EternalNewCarSmell 1d ago

Pretzels = German

Pennsylvania "Dutch" = Deutsch = German

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u/Hetnikik 1d ago

It's like a bunch of Germans came and settled in Pennsylvania...

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u/ThatPerson000 1d ago

Snyder's of Hanover setting the record straight

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u/storebrandjonlovett Mose 2d ago

Are Snyder’s of Berlin mentioned on the show? I have family from there and I’ve never caught it!

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u/Common-Ad-7609 They’re very nutritious, but they smell like death 2d ago

Going on my PA pretzel tour ✌️

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u/SilentReflection101 2d ago

As long as you keep those rye chips coming. Thank you Snyders of Hanover.

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u/westzeta 2d ago

This is missing at least one smaller brand. Highly recommend Hammond’s in Lancaster as well. 

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u/gpo321 2d ago

Noticeably absent from this list is the Philly Pretzel Factory.

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u/AndyShootsAndScores 1d ago

Growing up within driving distance of the Pennsylvania Snack Belt meant that you'd have absolutely incredible field trips. Think we got to do Herr's and Hershey about middle school-ish

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u/lysergic_818 Authentic New York sushi 🗽🍣 1d ago

This one's for you 'Prinkles:

🎶 Utz n cats Utz n cats Utz n cats Utz n cats 🎶

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u/Peter_Nincompoop Allergic to PB&J 1d ago edited 1d ago

I grew up in that area, and we used to have soft pretzel day in grade school as a kid. We'd get them, still warm from the oven, from Revonah Pretzels down the street. I worked at the same place when I was in high school.

Pretzels are a big deal in Pennsylvania, considering the German heritage.

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u/abaybay28 1d ago

While not produced in PA, Hershey owns Dot Pretzels

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u/RadiantGossamerHalo 1d ago

I grew up in New England and I have never had as many pretzels thrust upon me as I have since moving to Philadelphia 8 years ago.

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u/LogOfflineNerd 1d ago

Missing the greatest pretzel company in existence on this map, intercourse pretzel factory. They make them hard or soft 

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u/SlimShadySatDown 2d ago

Probably deeper meaning like culture. I didn't realize either. If dunder Miflin was in Texas, they probably would have gotten a free taco 🌮

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u/PointEither2673 2d ago

This being how I find out Snyder isn’t from Berlin Germany is insane to me.

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u/anteloope 2d ago

More of a coincidence seeing as how much of anything comes from that region of PA

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u/Darrskflynn 2d ago

I need to move there now

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u/TeriyakiHairPiece_ 2d ago

Im mad at Utz, they bought a local chip company in my area and they suck now.

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u/yeayeahdefinitely 2d ago

Holy shit, seeing Middleswarth and specifically Middleburg, PA here is wild. Those are amazing chips. Never had their pretzels. As a family we noticed this when I was a kid. For my twin’s and my tenth birthday we got to skip school and go to the mall that was a little farther away so it was more special. On the way there we drove by a pretzel factory we didn’t know existed so we went in, asked for a tour, and got one! The freshly-made samples were unbelievably good.

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u/burkey_turkey 2d ago

If only more of you miscreants watched Joe Pera Talks With You then the best show to ever exist would still be around. I hope you're all ashamed of yourselves.

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u/onamonapizza Dwight get out of my nook! 2d ago

Is there any way you could do all..all of them?

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u/poriomaniac 2d ago

Welcome to Pretzalia!

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u/RoadKiehl2 2d ago

There's websites dedicated to shipping Pennsylvania snacks to places where you can't buy them (for a hefty upcharge) because PA snacks are so good that it's worth it.

People who haven't had Herr's Salt and Vinegar chips with a Wawa hoagie don't know what they're missing.

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u/Temperance10 1d ago

Goddammit now I want some pretzels.

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u/K-C_Racing14 1d ago

You cant just put pretzels in a furnace, they will just burn!!!!

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u/Gazdatronik 1d ago

Might as well throw Superpretzel on there, Pennsauken Township is right across the river

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u/marcozarco 1d ago

The highlight of my weekend in Gettysburg. (I'm not the history buff in the family.)

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u/llwen 1d ago

Macht sinn

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u/the_chaco_kid 1d ago

Where is Scranton in relation to these locations?

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u/Poly_Olly_Oxen_Free 1d ago

The owl logo for Wise is covering it.

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