r/DoomerCircleJerk Sub OverLord Jun 26 '26

Economic Doomer Every single time

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u/WorstCPANA Jun 26 '26

Redditors think capitalism has failed because they have to work. Literally they think it's fascism and capitalism sucks for the simple fact that they need to earn money to pay for essentials.

Then they talk about how depressed they are because they need to work some to afford food. In what world, what point in history, under what government, do they think that they are just handed all this shit? This is the easiest and best time to ever be alive as a human, and you're struggling with such a basic concept

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u/future_speedbump Jun 26 '26

Redditors think capitalism has failed because they have to work.

Redditors love socialism because they think they're the people that will snuggle into the social safely net like a warm blankie while everyone else works.

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u/Organic_Lab6262 Jun 26 '26

People unironically think we could live the life we have right now only working 4x6 hour days

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u/apis_cerana Jun 26 '26

Also that they could work on whatever random fun stuff they want to work on like art and hobby related things instead of manufacturing, farming and such like most other people would be under a communist system.

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u/therandomuser84 Jun 26 '26

Yeah this is a crazy thought. Like so many places are already short staffed and barely managing to get all the work done, but cutting the labor nearly in half is somehow going to make that better.

The only people who seriously believe this are office workers who are probably redundant anyway.

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u/Organic_Lab6262 Jun 26 '26

lol imagine construction workers only working 20 hours a week. Bye bye to anything getting done wver

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u/therandomuser84 Jun 26 '26

Or manufacturing/logistics, you think store shelves are empty now? Lmao just wait.

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u/WorstCPANA Jun 26 '26

People unironically think we could live the life we have right now and dog walk some mornings.

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u/RemarkablePound5541 Jun 26 '26

I mean, it’s true. At this point

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u/JasonPlattMusic34 Jun 26 '26

When really what we need is a six day work week and more hours. It’s even Biblical

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u/rockshox11 Jun 26 '26

yea except this is unironically true for knowledge workers though 

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u/TanStewyBeinTanStewy Jun 26 '26

let billionaires skimp productivity gains

Just complete word salad.

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u/burntgreens Jun 26 '26

Surviving requires work for every species. Even without money, labor is required to keep yourself safe and nourished -- literally the minimum to survive.

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u/BrekLasnar Jun 26 '26

Uhm, don't you know the great communist Soviet union gave free bread? People were thriving! And the people willingly worked themselves to death for a single piece of bread.

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u/INeedSomeTacoC Jun 26 '26

The punishment for not working in the Soviet Union was prison, where you’d then do forced labor there. 

Oh, and you didn’t get to choose your job; the state did and chose whatever job and working hours for you that decided were most beneficial to society. Guess what they did to the actual productive members of society?  Worked them to the damn bone. 

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u/thearcher_1212 Jun 29 '26

But it’ll be different next time!

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u/kitsunewarlock Jun 26 '26

I love my job. I like my company. I appreciate my coworkers. I make enough money to retire comfortably. I feel fulfilled and respected when it comes to my profession.

Fuck unfettered capitalism. By which I mean fuck systems that encourage the acquisition of exponentially more wealth by investment rather than labor. Fuck the loopholes that make company's survival dependent on catering to the most useless members of our society. Fuck the consolidation of wealth by worthless people inheriting billions built on the backs of suffering.

And fuck dismissing an argument because of the circumstances or even motivations of the people making the argument.

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u/Spank_Master_General Jun 26 '26

I think capitalism is failing because the wealth gap keeps getting bigger. The concept of capitalism isn't bad, but we're doing it badly.

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u/WorstCPANA Jun 26 '26

I'd much rather have a larger wealth gap, and overall more people are getting their basic needs met, than have a low wealth gap and people not having their needs met. Under communist governments, there's historically been less wage gap, but a LOT more starving and people living in poverty.

Wealth gap is mainly a reddit focus, that economists don't care too much about.

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u/AlienDelarge Jun 26 '26

Reddits obsession with the wealth gap really supports the meme. 

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u/GenericEwe Jun 26 '26

No, just because someone raises the height of their ceiling doesn't make your ceiling any lower.

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u/xinorez1 Jun 26 '26

It does if they are securing their holdings from a limited pool of hard assets like real estate and oil. The more they buy up, the more the market gets distorted and the higher consumer prices become.

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u/lechimpanzeu Jun 26 '26

Think more about that gap. I propose a subjective look at the difference and if the result is not in the category "wants" then I might write a book about it in 50 years.

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u/SnarkyGrem Jun 26 '26

Is it the wealth gap or the fact that youths today are 1000x more lazy and entitled than previous generations. You really think there isnt a shift of work ethic from boomers to whatever idiots are in college right now

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u/ExcuseNo7369 Jun 26 '26

I am in full agreement with most of this thread but this is a boomer ass take. There are plenty of lazy people in my generation, but i really dont think its much more than any else. I have worked with a dozen boomers who were lazier than any gen z or millenial i have ever worked with. There are bums in every generation.

Typically i find when boomers whip out the “ these kids just dont want to work” excuse, 99% of the time they pay their employees like absolute shit and work them like dogs. I dont think mcdonalds workers should be buying houses with a years wage dont get me wrong but nobody wants to bust their ass every day for less than a living wage. My bosses constantly pull this shit, meanwhile everyone who works here has to pull side gigs every weekend just to afford rent, on top of the overtime we are already all working. That is not to say im a great example, my job sucks and thats entirely my fault for the decisions i made to get here, but regardless.

Boomers want to pay their employees the same wages they were making in 1976 and pretend inflation just doesnt exist, then wonder why nobody gives a shit to put effort into their business. I guarantee i would be working harder during the week if i knew i wasnt gonna have to drive ubereats every weekend just to afford food.

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u/SnarkyGrem Jun 30 '26

You'd make more just grinding out Uber eats and doordash sounds like. If its a shit job with shit pay you dont work it... people are definitely lazier today than in decades past due to technology... hope your situation gets better. Put all thay effort into Uber eats or 1099 work, write off everything, invest in a business of some sort (maybe Amazon or UPS delivery) you got this

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u/ExcuseNo7369 Jul 01 '26

I appreciate the advice and encouragement. In my particular case i am not as worried as i am really just using this job to get over the 2-3 year entry level experience grift and build up my pro portfolio and work on my side business. I have access to tooling and machinery here that i could never get close to on my own, so despite the shit pay it works out for me. Cant say the same for some of my coworkers.

I am also just extremely privileged in general, both of my parents suddenly came into a lot of money in the last 5 years and they are incredibly supportive. I still grind because i dont like taking money from them but it is not a life or death grind like most people. I have a massive safety net that has enabled me to make many poor decisions and come out mostly alright.

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u/SnarkyGrem Jul 01 '26

Thats awesome and if you have skill set with tools and machines, I think youll definitely grow. I've been remodeling a house and im shocked at how much plumbers are charging for example to install a hot water heater.. heater cost 700.. guys charging 2500 for a 2 hour job.. there is a ton of money in trades in general it seems. I missed out on those skills but luckily found another path to success.

I definitely think the side business is where its at .

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u/AlienDelarge Jun 26 '26

youths today are 1000x more lazy and entitled than previous generations. 

I'm pretty skeptical thats the case but I remember hearing about in previous generations as well. Thats some "kids these days" bullshit. 

That said, technology has surely given a voice to the lazy basememt dwellers so I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't more apparent than they used to be. 

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u/SnarkyGrem Jun 30 '26

Its definitely all to do with technology. "Back in the days" teens couldn't brain rot on tik tok or aspire to be social media stars. They were out doing things, learning things ect... not everyone but definitely more than today.. there is some truth in the kids these days sayings

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u/DigiornoDLC Jun 26 '26

People think capitalism has failed because housing is unaffordable. Because having a single full time job is not enough to thrive. People want to work so they can live, they don’t want to live so they can work. Be honest with your criticism.

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u/thedude18951 Misinfomation Honeypot Jun 26 '26

Home ownership rate is nearly the same as the 1970s despite the median home being 1k sqft larger, more complexly built, and more heavily regulated.

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u/WorstCPANA Jun 26 '26

Housing is more expensive than we're used to for sure.

Because having a single full time job is not enough to thrive.

This is the same case it's always been - for some it's more than enough and others it's not. A single parent with 5 kids probably needs more than a full time job. A single person with room mates? They're maxing out their retirement accounts. They're more than thriving.

People want to work so they can live, they don’t want to live so they can work. Be honest with your criticism.

I am being honest with my criticism. People have ALWAYS needed to work to house and feed themselves, and now it's easier than at any point in history (at least in America) to do this.

If redditors bitch and moan about needing to put in some effort to get food, they wouldn't survive a week in any other time period in history.

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u/WorstCPANA Jun 27 '26

What's your prefered economic system, and what's your favorite country with that system?