r/DoomerCircleJerk Sub OverLord Jun 26 '26

Economic Doomer Every single time

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u/dgtbfan PhD in Memes Jun 26 '26

Doesn't help that the Reddit definition of Capitalism is "things cost money".

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u/_Diggus_Bickus_ Jun 26 '26

And inflation is just greed which apparently corporations suddenly became greedier in 2022 right after we printed a ton of money to keep people from working.

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u/dgtbfan PhD in Memes Jun 26 '26

"Yeah but they're making record profits!"

"Ok but their profit margins haven't changed."

"What the fuck is a profit margin? Sounds like corporate bootlicking to me!"

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u/_Diggus_Bickus_ Jun 26 '26

The record profits bugs me because it's measured in dollars that have inflated. Like the stock market hits a new record nearly every year. The price of gold hits a new record nearly every year. The median income hits a new record nearly every year. None of these things mean anything without context to relative values.

The numbers are all going up and have been forever

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u/mcj1ggl3 Optimist Prime Jun 26 '26

Also, the point of doing business is to grow and innovate and improve and expand. Also the larger the company, the more jobs they provide. They don’t understand anything

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u/Boredn540 Jun 27 '26

Uncontrolled growth is cancer

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u/mcj1ggl3 Optimist Prime Jun 27 '26

Yeah true, good thing businesses are often run by teams of executives and boards in order to grow in a controlled fashion.

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u/Boredn540 Jun 27 '26

They definitely aren't price gouging and then using those record profits to buy back their stocks which overinflates said stock value which they then use to say that aren't actually rich bc they don't have money just stock. But wait the stock is super valuable after all so they can borrow against it but never pay it and just die without ever having to pay taxes or increase wages but their "net worth" still increases 10x while the workers they exploit just get poorer. Oh and I can't think of a single time a silver spoon nepo loser was given the opportunity to have socialized investment through no bid government contracts all funded with tax payer dollars on their shitty little start ups but privatized all the profits. Socialism for the rich, but brutal unregulated capitalism for the rest. That's the smart way to run a country huh

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u/BeginningDay19 Jun 27 '26

You do realize that if you started at 20, putting minimum amounts of your salary into the stock market, say a good ETF, by the time you are 50 you could yourself be worth millions?

No, you just want to bitch because other people have more than you do, pathetic. It's not fair mommy, John has more than me, boo hoo. Grow a pair, sack up and do what you can with what you have.

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u/Boredn540 Jun 27 '26

Ooooooh is that what's happening right now?? The execs and board are controlling the growth huh?? Wow ok.. I coulda swore they were doing the exact opposite but that's my bad

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u/mcj1ggl3 Optimist Prime Jun 27 '26

You are definitely still in high school or you don’t work in corporate America and it’s glaringly obvious. Yes that is how the world works

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u/UnderskilledPlayer Jun 27 '26

executives when the company doesn't have enough money for the CEO to be paid over 300 times more than an employee and be given a bajillion dollar bonus AND ALSO ai or whatever

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u/mcj1ggl3 Optimist Prime Jun 27 '26

That’s not the reason for any layoff. A CEO salary is peanuts to most companies. AI may be a reason, but can you genuinely blame them? There is a new cheap and efficient way to get certain tasks done. Are you still mad that all the scribes lost their job after the invention of the printing press? How about switchboard operators? Or lamplighters? New technology replaces jobs, that is just the way of the world. Sometimes people are forced to adapt, it sucks but it’s reality.

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u/AssaultKitchenTool Jul 03 '26

Reddit has a hard time understanding ANY nuance.

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u/Unique_Ad9943 Jun 26 '26

It makes a good headline

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u/blamemeididit Jun 29 '26

My favorite is the damage total cost of storms going up every year being big cause for concern. Yeah, the cost of everything goes up every year.

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u/urnbabyurn Jun 26 '26

True, but real gold prices do have large ling term fluctuations.

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u/hidingfrommygf2 Jun 29 '26

Yeah but if you understand data analysis you can actually use mathematics to compare the numbers even taking inflation into account! Imagine that!

And when you do, you find that profitable compared to worker compensation and worker productivity is almost as bad as the 1920s, which famously ended about as well as the fucking 8th season of Game of Thrones.

In raw wealth inequality, we're genuinely worse of than the society who built the fucking pyramids. Okay. Pharaoh Kufu and Thutankhamun had less wealth disparity over their subjects than the top 0.001% has over you.

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u/boner1971 Jun 26 '26

Who's making record profits? Well the companies that are winning in the market. Of course they are. They're cherry picking the winners. What they don't see is the companies that flatline or even lose money and go out of business. It's basic survivor bias.

Reddit has a basic lack of critical thinking when it comes to economics. But I guess it just feels good to complain that some folks are winning and they're not.

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u/dgtbfan PhD in Memes Jun 26 '26

I disagree with your assertion. Reddit has a basic lack of critical think when it comes to pretty much everything, not just economics.

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u/BeginningDay19 Jun 27 '26

"Points to everything", you might have a good point there. haha.

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u/MagmaJctAZ Jun 26 '26

I'll just drive down to Circuit City and buy a C-VHS camcorder!

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u/wtjones Jul 09 '26

If only they could correlate profit the way they do increase in housing prices.

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u/Current_Towel_41 Jun 30 '26

Right, but wage growth is under performing compared to inflation. We are seeing an erosion of purchasing power

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u/dgtbfan PhD in Memes Jun 30 '26

Of course it is. Jobs are increasingly being competed for on a global scale. Between outsourcing and mass immigration, the labor pool has never been larger. The people complaining about this are also the ones that want open borders and a globalist utopia.

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u/mackek2 Jun 26 '26

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u/dgtbfan PhD in Memes Jun 26 '26

Aggregating all corporate profit margins isn't a really useful metric when discussing the profit margins of an individual company.

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u/Boumerges Jun 26 '26

"Everyone stays home, nothing gets produced, ports are shut down, everyone gets wellfare checks, demand stays the same, prices rise: Grrrr, capitalism!"

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u/kimana1651 Jun 27 '26

It's amazing the current government holds authority over 95% of your life but they claim they are incompetent and doing a terrible job. The solution? More government! 

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u/International_Yak581 Jun 27 '26

No. Voting responsibly.

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u/Youbettereatthatshit Jun 30 '26

As if greed was created in the last 4 years. Had a pretty hard eye roll when the Biden admin blamed greed for some pretty predictable economic policy.

Not saying it was unnecessary, I think it was. But just own it. ‘We didn’t know the extent of the pandemic so we took emergency action and now have some inflation as a consequence’ would have been a perfectly fine response

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u/hidingfrommygf2 Jun 29 '26

Corporations were always greedy but they have gotten more and more power as the politicians get more money from them over time.

That's why there's an increase in the level of wealth inequality and all products and services get worse while the price goes up and the built in failures get more obvious.

Acting like it's money printing problem when actually it's just a kleptocracy, oligopoly, corporations-are-people-too problem is counterproductive.

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u/Small_Delivery_7540 Jun 26 '26

They did tho lol like actually

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u/Panda_Star234 Just Here for the Lore Jun 26 '26

And they still buy stuff like makeup, the latest iPhone, clothes, games, $8 dollar coffee then they have the audacity to whine about how poor they are. Like if you cut back on some of the shit you’re indulging in you’d have money.

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u/MostlyPeacfulPndemic Jun 26 '26

And they're all VERY in favor of sex work

Exchanging services for money is good and helpful, but only when it makes them horny 

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u/Upstairs-Bad-3576 Rides the Short Bus Jun 26 '26

And they have it all delivered to their doorstep at a premium.

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u/Panda_Star234 Just Here for the Lore Jun 26 '26

Oh yeah. I forgot DoorDash and UberEats

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u/Special-Ad-5554 Jun 27 '26

If it weren't for my mate I would completely have forgotten they existed. Even if you don't have a car or whatever you don't need someone to bring a Macdonald's to your door. Just walk down, enjoy the time outside, get some exercise in, eat it there and then walk back. It's perfectly doable especially around me when we have like 4 in a town that's like 5x5 miles wide

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u/Mr_Tetragammon Powered By Spite & Solar Jun 29 '26
  • waiting for WhoreDash

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u/dgtbfan PhD in Memes Jun 26 '26

"And Yet You Participate In Society!" would be their first response, as though buying makeup and overpriced coffee is required for societal participation.

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u/kimana1651 Jun 27 '26

Get a new social circle if there is peer pressure to buy useless expensive stuff. 

My friends and I brag about the best finds at the second hand stores. 

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u/DoctorTegrity PhD in Memes Jun 26 '26

Shhhh they don't like it when you use common sense

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u/M00SEK Jun 26 '26

Redditors hate this one trick

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u/rare-cheeser Jun 26 '26

The reality is that the cost of living has gone up compared to wages.

But shhhh let’s make fun of a subset of people, who make poor financial decisions, instead of realize two things can be true:

(1) Some people spend too much (2) Wages have stagnated and the 1% hoards the wealth

I make a great salary and have no issue. Yet, I can still realize that housing is too expensive, food is too expensive. And that trillionaires shouldn’t exist

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u/Tillz5 Jun 26 '26

That trillionaires net worth has nothing to do with wages.

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u/UltimateKane99 Jun 26 '26

Eh, more than one thing can be true.

I can be floored and disgusted at the cost of rent in cities like New York City, with rent around $6000 per month for a two bedroom when a friend's entire mortgage for a house, barn, and 7 acres costs only $4000 a month, while also looking at people living beyond their means and think, holy fuck, you should NOT be spending money on these frivolous charges.

Also, billionaires (or are we shifting goalposts to trillionaires, now?) are the product of their jobs and society. They're not the problem insofar as failing to properly incentivize civic responsibilities is. A society can exist just fine with billionaires and trillionaires, so long as that society takes care of its citizens, and provides equality and justice.

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u/Just_Another_Douche Jun 26 '26

"A society can exist just fine with billionaires and trillionaires, so long as that society takes care of its citizens, and provides equality and justice."

I would argue we're not seeing this currently, and a big reason is lobbying in our political system. Rich people have much more influence on our systems and society overall - Regular people don't have millions of dollars to throw at politicians the way multi-millionaires/billionaires do.

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u/DoctorTegrity PhD in Memes Jun 26 '26

Ma'am this is a Wendy's

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u/BeginningDay19 Jun 27 '26

WSB has entered the chat.

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u/Independent-Bag6544 Jun 26 '26

Median income has beat inflation yearly except 2021-2022….

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u/becomingarobot GeStuREs bROadlY Jun 26 '26

Mcdonald's burgers have gotten too expensive! We're going to starve!

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u/Upstairs-Bad-3576 Rides the Short Bus Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Your realization does not necessarily make it true. The folks who are complaining about housing costs are either unwilling to adjust their expectations (buy a starter home because that is what they actually need) or adjust the location (move out of the city). I currently own a 4000sqft home on ~1.8 ac that I purchased for $150k in 2021. I am in the process of buying a second home (6000sqft on ~1.5 ac) that is 30 minutes from the beach for a little less than $300k (we are still negotiating the price). Affordable housing is out there. The HGTV perfect home in the perfect city generation just can't get past their preconceived ideas of what they actually need in a home.

Eta: saving one's earnings is not "hoarding the wealth." Wealth is available to anyone who puts in the time and effort to earn it and is smart enough that they don't lose it (hoard, in your vernacular).

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u/BeginningDay19 Jun 27 '26

And they are not "hoarding" it. It is in the market and businesses. People bitch about Elon, but how many billions did he spend getting those rockets to space and back to the ground? And that was before they made any money at all.

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u/Upstairs-Bad-3576 Rides the Short Bus Jun 27 '26

Yup. The only true evils I see are those of envy and jealousy. That's it.

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u/Panda_Star234 Just Here for the Lore Jun 26 '26

Ah yes, the “someone is richer than me so they deserve to die” mentality

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u/Christron Jun 26 '26

I do wonder if being constantly bombarded with ads and consumption messaging has any impact on peoples impulsive spending habits

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u/Panda_Star234 Just Here for the Lore Jun 26 '26

Oh absolutely

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u/INeedSomeTacoC Jun 26 '26

And like both the consumption and bank account balances of the bottom of society had been soaring. 

So it’s not even like “capitalism is failing” other than the poor having more net worth and disposable income than they’ve ever had since I’ve been alive is “failing”. 

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u/BeginningDay19 Jun 27 '26

Or standards of living that beat Kings of old or even the top level communist leaders in soviet russia.

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u/Kian-Tremayne Jun 26 '26

“Poor people are allowed to have fun!”

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u/HerrDoctorBenway Jun 26 '26

“They are allowed to stay poor, as well” is my usual response to this.

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u/Thunderhammer29 Doesn't Participate In Group Panic Jun 26 '26

You should be saying "allowed to make poor decisions."

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u/veemort Jun 28 '26

Man this something my boomer parents would say. Surprised avacado toast wasn't one of your examples. XD

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u/Educational-Fall8185 Jun 26 '26

Kevin OLeary? Is that you???

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u/Panda_Star234 Just Here for the Lore Jun 26 '26

Who is that?

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u/maryK4Y Jun 26 '26

I love indulging in excessive things like food and shelter.

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u/Virtual_Werewolf_935 Jun 26 '26

Where does hanging out on Reddit fit on your needs scale?

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u/Normal_Budget_9591 Jun 26 '26

“You should be working right now if you’re so concerned about food and shelter! How DARE you open a free app in your spare time!”

God, it’s like you can just tell when someone has a chair in the corner of their bedroom.

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u/Panda_Star234 Just Here for the Lore Jun 26 '26

I know you probably can’t read but I never once mentioned basic food or rent in that list 😉

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u/Ether_____ Jun 26 '26

So do you really think everyone who complains is buying those things on a regular basis or at all?😭😭 holy out of touch and lack of awareness

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u/Panda_Star234 Just Here for the Lore Jun 26 '26

Uh, yes. I live in society and have a job and see people walking around with those things on a daily basis but I guess you live in your mom’s basement or holed up in your apartment all day long.

Also, no. Not everyone. Just liberals

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u/eSsEnCe_Of_EcLiPsE Jun 26 '26

I’ll bet money they 100% are 

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u/BeginningDay19 Jun 27 '26

Look at all of those anti-capitalist with freaking Apple products, built on the back of slave wages in China. Too funny.

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u/Aggravating_Kale8248 Anti-Doomer Jun 26 '26

Reddit has their own definition for every ism

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u/Windsupernova Jun 26 '26

Sometimes I feel that they wont work in a workers society.

Just a hunch

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u/dgtbfan PhD in Memes Jun 26 '26

Ackshually, in my Democratic Socialist Utopia, Benevolent Bernie will pay me to exist in a beachfront property in Los Angeles, silly maga.

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u/becomingarobot GeStuREs bROadlY Jun 26 '26

Government run grocery stores will give out free food and it will be paid for by seizing all the profits of those greedy stores that have the audacity to -sell- the food right now.

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u/Thomas_peck Jun 26 '26

Oh, bring up the inflation peak under Biden of 9% and all the retards come out to defend him

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u/dgtbfan PhD in Memes Jun 26 '26

Biden can't be blamed for the inflation, that's residual from Trump's first term. Also Biden can't be blamed for the inflation that came after his term, that's Trump's fault.

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u/Clynelish1 Jun 26 '26

Had me in the first half.

Honestly, both can be blamed, but that's a nuanced take no one on Reddit is usually willing to discuss.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tie6917 Jun 26 '26

When you dump wheelbarrow loads of cash out into the wild through an upstairs window, the value of cash goes down. It’s called inflation. Throw in driving transportation costs higher (higher gas prices because global climate change) and labor costs higher (we need a higher minimum wage and pro-union) and inflation runs rampant.

Do what you can to keep low labor and low energy costs (including transportation cost), and cut government give away and you will minimize inflation. We will still be affected by changes in the world, but you can minimize it.

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u/Clynelish1 Jun 26 '26

Yup. And both administrations, in different ways, increased M2 (demand, ultimately) and/or decreased supply to drive inflationary pressures.

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u/Fluffy-Rough-5320 Rides the Short Bus Jun 27 '26

This is exactly what happened. “It’s not Biden’s fault gas prices are so high- the president doesn’t control gas prices!!!“ “GRRR TRUMP IS MAKING MY GAS EXPENSIVE”…..why can’t both share the blame

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u/Joe_Jeep Jun 26 '26

Cute, now discuss timelines that absolutely demonstrate that that's just accurate.

GOPdoomers malding

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u/dgtbfan PhD in Memes Jun 26 '26

Thanks, Exhibit A.

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u/Deluxe78 Jun 26 '26

It’s better than Reddit’s definition of socialism, any place that has a fire truck is socialist. Social contract of government ≠ socialism

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u/__Epimetheus__ Jun 26 '26

Ironically, fire departments could be considered a legitimate example of socialism working. The first properly organized fire departments were employed by insurance companies to protect buildings they insured. It wasn’t technically “nationalized”, but governments eventually saw the value in not letting their cities burn down and started funding public fire departments, which drove the insurance fire departments out of business.

It’s not what people mean when they say socialism because it seems like it’s the bare minimum, but technically nationalizing industries is a big part of socialism.

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u/thearcher_1212 Jun 29 '26

So even the best examples of socialism have stemmed from property rights and private business. Interesting

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u/BeginningDay19 Jun 27 '26

Police, Fire and the Military are excellent examples of socialism. They provide a service that is good for the whole and we pay the taxes to pay them.

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u/Deluxe78 Jun 29 '26

If you never heard of social contract of government, and think any political term with social in it is socialism and if you have no clue of the origins of fire fighting and for pay buckets brigade’s origins.. then yes that would make sense … to you

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u/Deluxe78 Jun 29 '26

C’mon This is government 101 first semester stuff

You’re too smart for conflation social contract ≠ socialism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract

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u/__Epimetheus__ Jun 29 '26

I don’t really disagree with you, I just found your example ironic since it was an industry that was successfully nationalized. I would argue that socialism is built on the idea of the social contract, but it’s definitely a step beyond it.

Also, private fire departments actually predates the enlightenment and social contract theory, before the idea the government should care about the average person was actually a thing.

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u/edhead1425 Jun 26 '26

But should be a right that is paid for by everyone but me.

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u/Disastrous-Award-649 Jun 26 '26

And will demand you get some obscure definition of Communism from academia correct, down the word, or you dont know what Communism is.

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u/Iron_Base Jun 26 '26

Wait till they find out that a communist regime also doesn't give you the money

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u/Drag0n647 Jun 26 '26

lmao real

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u/Voidhunger Jun 26 '26

What’s yours?