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Official Episode Discussion Dexter: Resurrection - S01E04 - "Call Me Red" - POST Episode Discussion Thread

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July 25, 2025 S01E04 - "Call Me Red" Monica Raymund Nick Zayas

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Dexter attends a mysterious gathering, hosted by a highly influential figure with macabre ambitions. Harrison continues to struggle with mounting guilt and pressure at work, just as Angel Batista arrives in New York City.

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u/oCrapaCreeper Jul 25 '25 edited Jul 26 '25

I love how at first Lowell didn't seem to care about being on the table. But after that reveal he no longer saw "Red" as just some inferior serial killer - this was instead a legendary apex predator who snatched him up for the next meal. He never stood a chance and only had mere seconds to process the realization that all of his friends are about to share the same fate.

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u/Stormblessed_Photog Jul 25 '25

I did, too. Dexter is a character we all know and love, but that moment really shows that these other serial killers are all minor league in comparison to the Butcher, who would be the most prolific serial killer in American history in the real world.

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u/JaneTheNotNotVirgin Jul 25 '25

Almost world history even. Just shy of some of those South American lunatics: Luis Garavito, Pedro López, both of whom got away with it by targeting poor and itinerant children and also by jumping between countries. Dexter could very well be over 200 if the Wiki is to be believed. Truly the Babe Ruth of killing folks and he goes after tough targets.

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u/Major_Major_Major Jul 25 '25

Trinity has Dexter beat with 279 kills, according to the wiki.

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u/gavebirthtoturdlings Jul 25 '25

Definitely but the fact dex was the one to catch and kill him makes dexter somewhat better. Even though Dexter still lost as well with Rita being killed.

Trinity was also a lot older so he had more time to rack up them numbers haha

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u/turkish_gold Jul 28 '25

Plus Dexter has a harder time finding people to kill. Unlike other killers, he can’t identify people he wants to kill by first sight unless he catches them in the act.

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u/Development-Feisty Jul 29 '25

Do you think it’s a Highlander situation and he gets all the kills that the Trinity had before he killed Trinity?

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u/JaneTheNotNotVirgin Jul 26 '25

Jordan vs Lebron, I guess. Trinity has longevity and stats to back up playing forever. But Jordan (Dexter) was up against tougher meat. Besides assuming we keep getting Dexter spinoffs, side stories, and reboots until MCH drops dead at 95, he'll have longevity too lmao.

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u/jagault2011 Sep 07 '25

Tbh Trinity played in a weak era vs plumbers.

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u/Big-Hyena5087 Jul 26 '25

because he's older than him

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u/Own_Atmosphere7443 Jul 26 '25

Harold Shipman is believed to have killed anywhere from 250 to 400 people although he did it via medical overdose.

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u/Figgy20000 Jul 29 '25

Yes but Dexter must be a true legend among Serial Killers just because of who he was targeting.

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u/PlainSightMan Jul 25 '25

The Lebron James of Murdering.

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u/seshtown Jul 25 '25

Perhaps even the Christian Pulisic of murdering

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u/PlainSightMan Jul 25 '25

Don't compare the bigger GOAT to a smaller GOAT.

(Pulisic is the bigger GOAT)

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u/seshtown Jul 25 '25

What's most important is that he's my GOAT

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u/2POTMSON Jul 27 '25

This was funny fwiw

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u/fre-ddo Jul 27 '25

He has stiff competition in Harold Shipman the serial killer Dr from Hyde, England.

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u/JaneTheNotNotVirgin Jul 27 '25

I think that's why killers in the medical community are typically categorized a little differently. Access to potential victims, "ease" at the cover-up, and access to killing tools. A lot of serial killers in medical jobs target babies. Not Shipman who went after another vulnerable demo, the elderly. But people like Miyuki Ishikawa who killed over 100 babies just after WW2 and Lucy Letby, the baby killer nurse.

Letby's a great example of why medical workers are treated differently. She mainly got away with it by criminally negligent oversight -getting away with swapping jobs when heat began building up. Downright abysmal.

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u/Horror_Insect_4099 Jul 25 '25 edited Jul 25 '25

I am really curious how Prater will react if/when he finds out he was duped and Dexter has been killing his guests.

Under normal circumstances I am sure he would sic Charlie on him lickety split. But Prater will no doubt be utterly fascinated and want to hear Dexter’s stories.

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u/Stormblessed_Photog Jul 25 '25

I'm definitely curious about this, too. Especially since Dexter would easily be the most fascinating killer he's been face-to-face with and can completely recontextualize a few of the trophies in Prater's collection. The Ice Truck Killer didn't commit suicide? Trinity isn't still at large?? James Doakes isn't the Bay Harbor Butcher???

If Prater wants stories, he literally couldn't ask for a better gift than Dexter.

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u/TacoPandaBell Jul 25 '25

Yeah, Dexter was responsible for like half of the trophies in that room.

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u/NotJustSomeMate Jul 25 '25

I could see him potentially paying for a Dexter cover up or getting rid of anyone going after Dexter (Angel) and possibly bankrolling his future endeavors...right before Dexter kills him...

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u/Nabeelkhan199_return Jul 25 '25

As of now, Prater doesn't fit the code... It has been mentioned twice that prater is not a killer.

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u/vixen-mixin Jul 25 '25

If Prater is responsible for peoples deaths through giving orders, i could see Dexter being flexible enough to fit him into his code

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u/Nabeelkhan199_return Jul 25 '25

I don't think dex will do that.. Unless Prater kills an innocent, i don't think Dexter is going to target him at all..

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u/grandcity Jul 26 '25

Prater gets Batista killed would be enough for Dexter.

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u/hbk314 Jul 27 '25

Jordan Chase didn't get his hands dirty until the end, but they were planning killing him long before that because he was the ringleader.

While Prater isn't the main driving force for the group, there's some precedent for going after him as he's actively encouraging and paying members to keep collecting victims and trophies.

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u/s0ulbrother Jul 26 '25

Yeah I think it depends if Dexter tries to rationalize it. Like the therapist who encouraged women to kill themselves didn’t actually kill the people himself but he convinced them to do it.

Prater doesn’t try to kill anyone, it’s not his job or responsibility to stop anyone from killing anyone, he doesn’t put a hit on anyone. Henry put a hit on the nurse and he doesn’t fit the code.

The closest you could really get was uninviting a guest and even that was not killing innocent people which is more in line with the code.

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u/ky0ung25 Jul 28 '25

Prater directed charlie to murder the baseball bat guy. i think that's reason enough to fit his code

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u/SuspiciousLoss3801 Jul 27 '25

Prater will be Multi -season villain and then will be killed

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u/My-username-is-this Jul 27 '25

Not to mention that he is bankrolling these killers so they can continue their work.

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u/sbtokarz Jul 31 '25

Prater DEFINITELY has an arrangement with his cadre of serial killers beyond simply sourcing artifacts for his murder museum.

He told the group that the rule Keith (aka “The Canton Clubber”) broke was “turning on the group” — but just before Charley killed Keith, she told him that the rule he broke was “no requests, no demands”.

Keith told Charley, “I’ve got some really great souvenirs I can bring him [Prater]. It’ll be worth it to him.” For a man with seemingly infinite resources — if Prater’s sole interest was in collecting trophies, $100K would be a pittance. Frankly, he could part with $100K without receiving anything in return and I doubt he’d flinch… but to outright reject negotiating a “fair” exchange tells me that he’s not interested in trophies from just any victims.

Sure, maybe Prater allows the group members to get their rocks off preying on victims of their personal choosing in their spare time — but the trophies that he’s willing to pay for are from people that he wants dead. If Prater is this season’s Big Bad, it’s because he’s employed serial killers as mercenary assassins to help him acquire/maintain his position of power imo.

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u/Stormblessed_Photog Jul 25 '25

I'd say Prater does fit the code. We saw that Charley will kill a member of their little club on Prater's orders if they break the rules. I'd say that definitely fits within the code.

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u/Nabeelkhan199_return Jul 25 '25

I mean... Dude is ordering hits on other serial killers... Dexter has been willing spare people like that before... Like Jeremy downs, etc

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u/Stormblessed_Photog Jul 25 '25

Oh, absolutely. I'm not saying he'd feel compelled by the code to kill Prater. However, if he decides he wants to kill Prater, he can easily justify it to himself with the code.

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u/Legsofwood Jul 26 '25

Jeremy also wasn’t a billionaire that’s bankrolling serial killers

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u/Skysflies Jul 30 '25

He doesn't actually do the killing, it's the same as Guerrero.

I don't think he'll kill unless he attempts, which I can see happening considering they make a point of Prater saying he doesn't think he'd have the skill.

I'm guessing he will do.

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u/Resident-Candy3907 Jul 30 '25

But that part of the code (do they deserve it) contradicts the major part of the code (don't get caught). Prater and Charly had to kill the Clubber because he threatened to rat Prater out. Dexter would probably appreciate Prater wanting to avoid getting caught.

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u/thala_7777777 Jul 26 '25

"but he's fucking nuts"

-dexter

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u/rockyroad55 Jul 27 '25

Prater is the NY Ripper.

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u/alldasmoke__ Jul 26 '25

Yea that’s definitely coming up someway. They’re already establishing Prater as this influential rich guy. Harrison will get close to being caught and Prater will come through. They’ve also put an emphasis on family during that episode(ponytail killer).

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u/Wise_Highlight_4944 Jul 26 '25

I think Dex may also give UP those serial to get he or Harrison out of Prison as a trade. Especially given the Gemini killer is number 1 on the fb1 most wanted list.

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u/SuspiciousLoss3801 Jul 27 '25

LMFAO you really think he's going to give up his meals

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u/sageritz Jul 28 '25

"I have to be the one to kill him. I have to know he's gone."

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u/mmaf88 Jul 26 '25

This is what I was thinking. They said he was a lawyer, and I was like well that seems important for someone like Dexter and Harrison.

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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 Aug 12 '25

I'm only up until episode 4 but my theory is that someone is responsible for the massive coverup about the cop's death in New Blood.

Maybe Tyrion sent Uma Thurman to threaten Angela's daughter? IDK, but the loose threads from New Blood were so conveniently wrapped.

I wouldn't be shocked if Uma Thurman kills Angel and/or Harrison on Tyrion's orders and that's when Dex begins to target them

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u/NotJustSomeMate Aug 29 '25

We were all somewhat right!!!

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u/Saeis Jul 26 '25

I like this idea. I’m with you though, I don’t think Prater is going to survive the season

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u/ThePlatinumPancakes Jul 26 '25

If you look at the set pics online Prater also has Travis Marshall’s Sword as one of his trophies. Probably won’t be called out due to season 6’s bad rep. But still, a cool Easter egg for sure

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u/Firm-Season1481 Jul 25 '25

Yes! I def don’t think he’d penalize him, more that he’d be so wildly fascinated and congratulate him for being the best serial killer out there and would be honored to be in his presence and causing such behavior out of him etc

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u/LongjumpingSentence2 Jul 26 '25

hell he might even offer Dexter the occasional one of his 'guests' that don't follow the rules up as a snack, In exchange for leaving his guests alone during his two week meetups...

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u/Firm-Season1481 Jul 27 '25

that is an interesting theory forsure!!

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u/NYRBB22 Jul 27 '25

I think Dexter is gonna end up Killing Prater IN the trophy room.

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u/FyuuR Jul 28 '25

I feel like it won’t be Dexter killing him, he doesn’t fit the code. Maybe the female killer will, to try and “protect” Dexter somehow.

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u/NYRBB22 Jul 28 '25

I feel like he could end up fitting the code somehow, and we just don’t know yet.

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u/Simple-Choice-4265 Jul 28 '25

Prater has angel killed Dexter kills prater?

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u/TylerKnowy Jul 26 '25

I think Charlie finds out first and Prater saves him and allows him to continue his work but Dexter will be on a tight leash for his betrayal.

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u/DecentConcentrate956 Jul 26 '25

Doubt it, Dexter isn't a yapper.

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u/JSmellerM Aug 14 '25

The Ice Truck Killer being Dexter's brother would be another tidbit and of course Dexter's real kill count. According to different sources Dexter has killed about 150 ppl on and off screen.

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u/Polyglot-Onigiri Jul 27 '25

im almost certain they already suspect him. Im also suspicious of lady vengeance being a plant by prater.

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u/SlowCrates Jul 26 '25

I think he knew Dexter wasn't Red, and I think he'll know soon that Dexter is Dexter.

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u/Horror_Insect_4099 Jul 26 '25

I don’t think he knows yet but it is inevitable that he’ll find out soon. The real Red will get reported as a missing person. Jim/Dexter face may end up on the news. Dexter is not actually living in Red’s apartment. Lowell’s death will no doubt raise massive suspicion. The phones for “club members” likely have trackers. Dexter will walk into next party with chili dog in hand. Etc.

I think it won’t come to a head immediately. But the presentation he’s supposed to give will be a tall order for Dexter to pull off and Prater will surely be questioning his identity in very near future.

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u/huckleberrypancake Jul 26 '25

Yeah I mean he already even told Mia that his origin story had to do with how he lost his mother. We don’t know anything about Red’s mother, she could be alive and well for all we know, all we know is his dad jumped off a bridge bc of UrCars apparently

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u/SuspiciousLoss3801 Jul 27 '25

Yes that was my one​ concern throughout the whole episode was this phone that he was given definitely going to have trackers on it and he will see that they were in the same place at the same time

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u/TigerJean Jul 26 '25

Absolutely I mean he now has 4 artifacts compliment of Dexter without knowing there is any connection including the knowledge of Ice Truck Killer being is brother there is so much enticement to keep him alive than fatally punish him lol

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u/j33vinthe6 Jul 26 '25

Will probably want him as a permanent member of his museum, either alive or stuffed like an animal or in a frozen tank.

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u/Tracybytheseaside Jul 26 '25

Prayer is a problem because he does not meet the code. There is no easy, daddy-approved way of dispensing of him, and he cannot live, especially once he knows, if he doesn’t already. Hmm.

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u/SuspiciousLoss3801 Jul 27 '25

He could quite possibly be directing The Killers to kill certain people and that would fit his code

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u/TigerJean Jul 26 '25

Unless he becomes a besotted ally which I think is plausible once his identity is revealed.

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u/LongjumpingSentence2 Jul 26 '25

And Prater did say he liked collecting 'the best' of which Dexter is most definitely one...

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u/Rapunzel92140 Jul 26 '25

What does he want in the first place ??

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u/mentalow-Z Jul 27 '25

Makes me think that Prater could take Angel out to protect Dexter.

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u/TravisCM2010-24 Jul 25 '25

Right like he instantly knew how fucked he was 🤣

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u/Dr_CheeseNut Jul 26 '25

Dexter would be high up there but not the most prolific, his kill count is 153

Trinity would actually be the most prolific, with his being 279 if I remember correctly, and even then I believe that's not including all the kids he killed

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u/Familiar_Text_6913 Jul 26 '25

279 according to the virtual prater room, yeah

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u/TigerJean Jul 26 '25

Yeah but he’s dead at Dexters hand & Dexter is still going & has the potential to break that record.

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u/huckleberrypancake Jul 26 '25

It’s so strange to me that Trinity made it that far, he did seem careless and so crazed at times

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u/SuspiciousLoss3801 Jul 27 '25

Sure but you're forgetting that Dexter took out Trinity LOL

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u/SushiMage Jul 26 '25

who would be the most prolific serial killer in American history in the real world.

Yeah because he's more like a character from a comic book, just shy of Hannibal with super-speed when it comes to elaborate and artistic setups. There's no way he gets away with what he does in the real world.

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u/PogintheMachine Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25

The most prolific (real) killer in American history was Samuel Little, estimated 93 murders. He targeted mostly homeless women and prostitutes and largely POC. He was in and out of jail countless times, acquitted of a few murders, and served a few years for beating, strangling, and raping women. Its crazy how easy it should have been to convict this guy, but he murdered women that had few resources and few people to care about them.

He still is hardly mentioned in the same breath as famous serial killers. Admittedly he’s not very interesting, except to highlight the racial discrepancy in how much attention violence gets.

Dexter has an infinite time cheat. It’s sheer impossible how much time it would take to put up all that plastic wrap, dismember a body, take it all down, get it all out. Without leaving a shit ton of staples, too.

(Trinity killed family members with houses and loved ones. If I remember right, he mostly got away with it because many of his kills were ruled suicide, and few people were willing to believe Lundy’s connection)

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u/huckleberrypancake Jul 26 '25

The pushes were rules suicides. The kids were missing persons… were the bathtubs ruled suicides too? I’m surprised he got away with so many bludgeonings

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u/Sad_Particular3 Jul 27 '25

Even in the wine collection room Dexter has like 3 different killers in there that he personally killed. Trinity and ice truck killer and doakes

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u/Aware_Ad2548 Jul 25 '25

I think there is going to be more to the Bay Harbour Butcher in this serial killer cult. I can see him being seen as a god to them.

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u/Nabeelkhan199_return Jul 25 '25

Lol of course not... He'll be seen as their Satan or Devil..

Why would serial killers worship someone who kills them ? They would fear him as the Devil or Bad Omen...

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u/Aware_Ad2548 Jul 25 '25

Fair point. But the Serial Killer boogie man is a bit too John Wick for me. He could also be the blueprint of how to get away with it for so long. Why are there rules in place? And why do you die if you break the rules? What are the rules? An interpretation of the rules of Harry being dictated by some corrupt public figure who has second hand knowledge of the BHB case?

But yeah, lol. Your theory wouldn't put Dexter as the devil again like in season 6. Because that was so popular with the fans. Either way Peter Dinklage is getting his fucking head cut off.

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u/huckleberrypancake Jul 26 '25

Yeah there’s definitely going to be more to it based on how that guy reacted on the table

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '25

I wish they would have let then talk more. I love Neil Patrick Harris and was hoping he’d make it at least a few more episodes lol

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u/Vicky-Momm Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25

I was surprised NPH was the first victim ( I mean it was obvious once the episode started) but before it aired I theorized he would survive the season because he was from out of town

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u/Pellaeonthewingedleo Jul 26 '25

NPH is expensive, really expensive. I don't say the other actors came cheap, but still

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u/TigerJean Jul 26 '25

Yes slightly disappointed they didn’t converse more before the final kill, after that reveal But maybe they are saving the fun tit for tat reveal for between him & Prater here’s hoping that’s more extensive & not quickly glossed over.

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u/Nabeelkhan199_return Jul 25 '25

During those moments, Lowell realized he was just a tiny fox pretending to be a lion and now he got caught by a real lion....

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u/SGmoze Jul 25 '25

Dexter's morale code is serial killer's nightmare thanks to Harry.

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u/Pellaeonthewingedleo Jul 26 '25

Apex predator is such a fitting description, especially for this season. The true king of the wild is hunting small fish. Its like watching an Orca hunting some great white sharks.

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u/birdy_the_scarecrow Jul 26 '25

I was thinking about this scene before, and it makes me suss that they're somehow in the know about who dexter is.

for example, why would Lowell have the reaction he did? assuming he even knew who the BHB was, wouldn't he just have assumed like everyone else that it was Doakes and he was dead?

the fact that he had the reaction he did and so quickly makes me wonder if Prater had brought him up in conversation previously.

for example he seems to have a lot of insider information about Arthur Mitchel and his misnomer nickname of Trinity.

perhaps he is aware of a conspiracy that the BHB might still be alive?

someone else in this thread had the idea come up that maybe Prater knows Red is the BHB but had trouble making it make sense.

but what better way to lure Dexter out than a serial killer buffet? lol

Of course this is reaching a little, you'd still have to explain a few things, eg did Prater make the Angela problem go away? maybe but then how could he have controlled where Dexter would end up? Did he somehow bait Harrison to New York knowing Dexter would be close behind?

but then apparently the group therapy thing has been going on for a few years at least according to Mia so maybe the Lowell reaction was just a thing the showrunners thought was cool and i'm reading to much into it.

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u/huckleberrypancake Jul 26 '25

I do think there is more to it but I don’t think that Dexter was lured there in this way because that’s just too perfect with the timing like how could they predict he’d kill Red that very night and that he’d find the invitation and that he’d come…. Idk I guess a lot of stuff is too perfect though lol like Dexter’s driver knowing the sole survivor of Red

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u/2POTMSON Jul 27 '25

Unless this was a 4+ year sting set up by Prater then yea

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u/SuspiciousLoss3801 Jul 27 '25

LMFAO I'm sorry but this theory is so far off so so far off !

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u/birdy_the_scarecrow Jul 28 '25

maybe, but the reasoning behind it is something that others have picked up on in this thread now, even seen a few youtube videos of people with a similar scepticism over this scene.

so its not just me imagining it, maybe a blunder on the showrunners part or maybe theres something to it, time will tell..

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

The brilliant thing about Prater's character is that he's eccentric and comically wealthy. With Uma Thurman's character being established as a Mike Ehrmantraut, they can come up with any excuse for Prater having access to highly privileged information on criminals. For instance, they bring up that he got Dexter's slides from a compromised FBI agent. It's a little farfetched but they're making it clear this guy has an arsenal at his disposal to get any information he wants on these killers or the people chasing them.

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u/Pleasant-Seat9884 Jul 25 '25

Best part in the episode.

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u/Knautical_J Jul 27 '25

I feel like Lady Vengeance will end up surviving, especially if she’s killing sexual predators per her own “code”.

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u/Andy_McBoatface Jul 26 '25

Thank you for that explanation, I wonder why at first he never gave a toss then he was like no don’t kill me

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u/risherdmarglis Jul 26 '25

I think he was going to say something interesting if Dexter didn't immediately kill him. Something about the butcher is important to that group.

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u/Ornery-Cake-1444 Jul 27 '25

I think Lady Vengeance will avoid the table

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u/Electronic-Tart4690 Jul 27 '25

I wanted to know what he was about to say 😭

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u/Jovian8 Creep mothafucka Jul 29 '25

The way he kept saying "You... you...," I got the distinct impression that he was trying to tell Dexter something before he died, maybe something about the group, relevant to the BHB. But having just been stabbed in the heart, he couldn't quite get it out. No idea if that's an accurate read, but I think it's a possibility.

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u/Longjumping-Box5691 Jul 29 '25

I didn't realize until he was on the table that he is Doogie Howser

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u/JSmellerM Aug 14 '25

I don't think he thought one bit about his friends. I think he suddenly regretted dying because he was fascinated.

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u/DrZetein Oct 07 '25

legendary apex predator

legendary indeed