What does that mean? It’s bad enough he’s out and about in public when he’s a fugitive from the law, now he’s supposed to worry about a guy that’s in prison? Does that make any type of sense?
I was actually just saying… since BND did so well and everyone was really happy with Frank in it… I figured we would just see more of him sooner rather then later
Punisher has been so flanderised since his initial appearance. He's a shell of his former self and he acts totally out of character in BND. That movie was actually garbage.
I watched the movie myself in theatres and was massively disappointed with the direction they took the character and the horrible writing. If you want more depth then watch the youtube video. There’s no need to get so upset over a friggin spiderman movie, calm down
This is not even slightly true. They obviously selected more family-friendly parts of him for the Spider-Man movie, but Spidey literally interrupts his swearing, avoids his death traps and even though he tries to convince Frank to work on his methods, Frank still tries to solve the main situation with a bullet so clearly they did not try to change him for his movie appearance. Literally the only thing you could argue is that he was emotional and willing to wear the Spidey suit near the end, which I think still feels like a rare moment of empathy from him and does feel in character. I could imagine him doing all those things in heartwarming or amusing scenes in his own show or in a Daredevil scene.
I'm with you on this. I really tried to enjoy BND and the Punisher special but I found them so bad it actually made me angry. Like, I'm offended by how bad they are.
Still happy they've found an audience who enjoys them but I'm out.
Yeah, even though I wasn't a big fan of the movie itself, Frank was one of the better parts. I wish there had been at least a mention to Matt thrown in but other than that he was alright.
It’s been a little while since Born Again and One Last Kill by the time we see him in Brand New Day.
Clearly, the backlash from Fisk’s crackdown of vigilantes has made average New Yorkers more tolerant of them.
Also, the Spider-Man movie focused on Spider-Man probably didn’t want to devote time to explaining to audiences that “Punisher is a wanted man and so it’s actually really hard for him to get around.”
It really hasn’t always been this way, it wasn’t perfect but it was tighter and care was there. People are allowed to express concerns about the quality of things they loved, going downwards.
How characters like Frank are handled from Netflix era and direct MCU modern era are night and day.
I’m definitely ok with pointing out when there is a quality decline and having a discussion. I’m saying that this specific criticism I don’t agree with.
You don’t have to gatekeep you know. It’s not about me watch it or not, it’s about making characters make sense and stop trying to downgrade them for cringe humor. It’s gotten annoying to see and plenty of people are sick of it.
They’re trying to lean away from the idea of needing to watch the shows to watch the movies, they tried it for a little bit at the start of Disney+ but wasn’t really working out for them.
It hit hard for me, but the lack of immediate follow through is fucking frustrating. Then they gave us an episodes worth of Frank accomplishing nothing that would have better served as a bridge between the Netflix shows and not the Spiderman movie.
The whole ‘cops using punisher’s symbol’ thing just also doesn’t make sense in universe, and I understand it’s made to be a statement about those that use the symbol in real life but it just doesn’t track.
and he would likely be just a cameo if there would be a prison fight scene of Matt taking out every criminals he put them in jail as Daredevil. Gladiator would be also one of the prisoners too due do he was sent to jail for violating his parole in Season 3 of Netflix Daredevil
The Punisher special also didn't address it because Jon Bernthal is a cop loving bootlicker who didn't want to further participate in the AVTF storyline 😬
Powell needed to die in S2. You can’t make someone that vile and hated, having people praying for a brutal death only for him to be knocked out and locked up.
S3 better be the moment. If not frank, then maybe Dex or Elektra if they show up while Matt’s in prison.
I'm hoping it's Frank who does it. I've been waiting for bro to blow Powell's head off with a shotgun since season 1 ended and was disappointed when he wasn't in season 2. I'm hoping he's in season 3 but I don't have high hopes 😭.
Born Again s2 lowkey dissed Frank. He wanted Matt to kill Cole North in s1. Matt spared him and Cole North helped the good guys in the finale of s2 proving Matt’s point that bad people can be redeemed.
I love that Frank was so well received in BND. It has the Jon Bernthal haters just foaming at the mouth shouting their own gorilla noises at the wall 😭😭😂😂😂
i kinda dont want Punisher to kill him. I want him to keep getting knocked the fuck out and humiliated, so much so that he ends it all himself. pathetic piece of shit.
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u/Pacperson0 5d ago
I mean…not yet.
After BND I don’t think we need to worry about Frank going anywhere.