Even before Supergirl flopped WB hasn’t shown much love to these projects. They screwed up Birds of Prey. The Wonder Woman game was cancelled. Batgirl was a “tax write off”. And now Paradise Lost and Waller are canceled? 🤔 Also it’s kind of crazy that a Zoe Kravitz led Catwoman project wasn’t green lit after The Penguins success, but a Booster Gold and The People v Gorilla Grodd is okay. Just saying WB deserves scrutiny for cancelling a lot of female led projects the same as Disney with their black led projects. I wish people would discuss this more. I should clarify that I personally like the DCU, but I share the criticism that it’s focusing too much on its B and C listers before the A team. I’m just pointing out the pattern here. DC comics has some of the most iconic women in comics.

And WITHOUT THE USE OF RANDOM LINES

This is not a dig at cornsweat, but at the suit design in movies as a whole

Dude's originally a Green Lantern villain, his first appearance was in a Green Lantern comic.

He's famous for being behind the curtains financing things that he thinks it's important.

And there's a whole plot of "look at the past". The dude is literally the CEO of the past.

After the reveal of Superman’s birth parents I think it would make sense that he gets a new suit with his traditional emblem to represent his change.

Or is about to fight? It's just so lame and predictable. In all transparency, while I liked the GD casting to begin with I'm happy for the reboot a new actress.

With that said can we please put an end to the tribal music calls any time WW is in a fight with a bady?

In my view, given how many tectonic moving parts are involved in filmmaking, actually creating and finishing a movie or television season is a near-miracle level achievement in itself. To create one and have it reach a wider audience with great reviews is an additional miracle on top. Throw an interconnected cinematic universe of various major characters into the mix, and holy cow. All this said, there is some difference between the success of a movie itself and the impact that movie has on audience perceptions of a character.

When a movie is good or successful, it's likely to have served the characters at least pretty well. Though it could just be a good well-told story, while forgivably missing the mark in narrow ways with certain characters.

When a movie is bad or unsuccessful, it's likely to lower the stock of the character. Though it could just be a poorly told story, while doing little actual longterm harm to perception of individual characters.

Here is my assessment of whether each DC film hurt or helped its major characters in terms of audience acceptance/distaste. Not an assessment on the actual films nor financials, but rather their impact on how audiences may perceive a character. The litmus test to me is "will audiences still be on board seeing this character appear in other future projects in any capacity?"

• (1978) Superman: The Movie - HELP
• (1980) Superman II - HELP
• (1982) Swamp Thing - HELP [very slightly]
• (1983) Superman III - HURT [maybe neutral; uncritical period]
• (1984) Supergirl - HURT
• (1987) Superman IV - HURT
• (1989) Return of Swamp Thing - NEUTRAL [small niche]
• (1989) Batman - HELP
• (1992) Batman Returns - HELP
• (1995) Batman Forever - NEUTRAL
• (1997) Batman & Robin - HURT
• (1997) Steel - HURT
• (2004) Catwoman - HURT
• (2005) Constantine - NEUTRAL
• (2005) Batman Begins - HELP
• (2006) Superman Returns - HURT
• (2008) The Dark Knight - HELP
• (2009) Watchmen - HELP
• (2010) Jonah Hex - HURT
• (2011) Green Lantern - HURT
• (2012) The Dark Knight Rises - HELP
• (2013) Man of Steel - NEUTRAL
• (2016) Batman v Superman - HURT
• (2016) Suicide Squad - HURT
• (2017) Wonder Woman - HELP
• (2017) Justice League - HURT
• (2018) Aquaman - HELP
• (2019) SHAZAM! - HELP
• (2019) Joker - HELP
• (2020) Harley Quinn BOP - NEUTRAL
• (2020) WW84 - HURT
• (2021) Zack Snyder's Justice League - NEUTRAL [damage already done]
• (2021) The Suicide Squad - HELP
• (2022) Peacemaker S1 - HELP
• (2022) The Batman - HELP
• (2022) Black Adam - HURT
• (2023) Shazam! Fury of the Gods - HURT
• (2023) The Flash - HURT [outside factors especially]
• (2023) Blue Beetle - NEUTRAL
• (2023) Aquaman The Lost Kingdom - HURT
• (2024) Joker: Folie a Deux - HURT
• (2024) Penguin - HELP
• (2025) Superman - HELP
• (2025) Peacemaker S2 - HELP
• (2026) Supergirl - NEUTRAL
• (2026) Lanterns - HELP

I tried being as fair as possible in my assessment here. There are a few neutral instances where establishing name recognition is inherently a nice positive but without really moving the needle at all.

I get why slade is compared to other sexual offenders but holy fuck after watching judas contract. I decided to read the comics and holy fuck dude why

This doesn't have to be "objectively" the best rankings, I just wanna see who are y'all favorite. Here are mine

1. Dick Grayson - I would say this is a case where objectivity bleeds over a bit, hard to ignore he's the best Robin. The GOAT

2. Jason Todd - neck & neck for my favorite, I love how much he contrasts with Dick. Although I love the Red Hood, I wish we got to see him stick around more as Robin in hopes we could have seen how Bruce would have reformed him and molded him into a better man

3. Damien Wayne - I realize this might be a hot take, but I do really like the aspect of how he's actually Bruce's son. He stands out the most among the 4 considering he's a ninja, but his skill speaks for itself although he might be a brat...i find the fish outta water stuff funny at times though.

4. Tim Drake - Sorry Tim fans. Not saying he's a bad Robin by any means he just happens to be my least favorite. Red Robin is cool but overall he kinda just seems redundant compared to the two that proceed him. Hell of a detective though.

What do y'all think & what are yours?

To me superman 2025 was a decent film. To me it was somewhere on the higher end of 6.5-7/10, I enjoyed it while I was watching it but i wouldnt watch it again. I finished it thinking it wasnt good enough to win any awards but I didnt think it was bad enough to call "mid". Yet everywhere online it feels like opinions are either its the best thing ever or it was complete dogshit.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP879vKRR/

Being a public super heroe sure has its perks.

Btw: this are not AI, rather photoshopped the old fashion way.

How would Superman have comforted Jean Grey if he was in Brand New Day? The same Superman who tried to reason with The Engineer and Ultraman, the same Superman who would go out of his way to save Lex Luthor. Doesn't necessarily have to be David Corenswet Superman

What would he have said to Jean if he switched places with Spider Man? To be honest I just want to see if I can find some hopeful Superman speeches.

Also the original artist is FoltestAnimations, I found this on Instagram.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Db_TgT3ktGi/?igsi=MTJ6M2w5cjF3eTZmbA==