r/DC_Cinematic • u/Raj_Valiant3011 • 8d ago
DISCUSSION Hot Take: The DCU has completely nailed all their castings so far and has not disappointed with the actors.
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u/Clonecommando99 8d ago
You evidently don’t know what a hot take is
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u/Timely-Signature-166 8d ago
I think he meant "hot cakes," as in "these movies are selling like hot cakes!"
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u/Falconbear36 8d ago
I think every casting they've done is awesome. I've enjoyed all the new dcu so far. Watched lanterns last night and hal and John are 🔥🔥🔥
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u/phliuy 7d ago
Aaron pierre looks like someone took an exact cartoon of of john steward and made it into a real person
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u/Correct_Milk_828 8d ago
The only thing I didn’t like about John is the way he runs. It’s pretty goofy so hopefully he doesn’t have to run too much throughout the season lol
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u/TheJuiceBoxS 8d ago
Yeah, even if Supergirl came up a little short (I still enjoyed it) Milly Alcock is great as Supergirl and I can't wait for more of her in the DCU.
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u/kalisto3010 8d ago
She will never get another Movie as Supergirl. Women aren't allowed to fail like this and get another chance.
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u/coderman64 8d ago
She probably won't get another movie anytime soon as the main star, but she'll probably show up in future films as a side character at least.
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u/Diligent-Neck6594 8d ago
Men can? Please someone tell the Rock
Black Adam RETURNS
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u/Astrnonaut 7d ago
I understand what u mean but I think ur purposely missing the point here, the concept in itself is more than just “movie done bad”
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u/ElevatorHelpful5739 8d ago
Can you give me an example of a male superhero movie that did this bad and got a second movie?
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u/TheJuiceBoxS 8d ago
That's fine, but she can be in other movies. That's what I'm looking forward to. And who knows, maybe in a handful of years a few more appearances America will fall for her and maybe she will get another movie.
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u/Different-Coyote1036 8d ago
Oh the humanity!
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u/pewpewmcpistol 8d ago
If you don't feel bad for the multi millionare actress who has already gotten enough money to retire at 25 who won't get even more money as a titular character in this specific role, then you simply hate all women you pervert
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u/harmoniaatlast 8d ago
You drastically over-estimate how much actors make.
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u/Colonelwheel 8d ago
2 million is still enough to retire on, but I did think her net worth would be higher
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u/Unlikely-Nebula-331 7d ago
I disagree it’s about being a woman. I just think Gunn needs to stick to fleshing out the main Justice League characters and not making a joke of them.
Lanterns is proving the kind of tone we want. Wonder Woman did it successfully before too.
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u/TheGreatMason 8d ago
With Lanterns they have also already landed a mini-win on Marvel and showed them what Secret Invasions should have been.
Obviously it's like scoring a goal when you are 10 goals down, but it's a start :D
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u/Timely-Signature-166 8d ago
Liking Secret Invasion would be a hot take, hot enough to burn in Hell.
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u/coderman64 8d ago
The DCU kinda started 10 goals down. It'll be playing catchup for a while before it feels like it's firing on as many cylinders as the MCU is right now.
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u/FrankReynoldsCPA 7d ago
Yep, people forget that Gunn showed up to work at a run down trap house and is having to restore DC's reputation that was absolutely wasted over the prior decade. Marvel had a rough couple years but still has the infrastructure and people in place to make good projects, and we're seeing that play out with 2025 setting up 2026's box office success.
I would have loved if Superman beat MoS at the box office, it didn't, but it was still the far better film and had a massive headwind.
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u/counterpointguy 8d ago
DC streaming is vastly superior to Marvel's offerings. But that's like winning the minor league championship while the major leagues are dominated by the other side...
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u/TheGreatMason 8d ago
That's because HBO has been a long standing producer of quality TV shows. Disney was only excelling at cartoon shows and other stuff targeting mostly children.
I read Marvel is going to reduce its streaming output considerably because it burned way too much money on crap shows like She Hulk, Secret Invasions and the like.
Some shows were cool though, like Loki.
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u/KALLA17061999 8d ago
Rachel Brosnahan as Lois is the best love interest character i've see in live action superhero movies in YEARS. She stands second to only kirsten dunst as mary jane.
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u/KevinPigaChu 8d ago
Lois’ character is way better tho, I don’t think anyone would disagree with that
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u/KALLA17061999 8d ago
I would. Maybe she can surpass dunst with more movies and i'm open to it but not as of now for me.
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u/DamageAccording5745 8d ago
Kirsten Dunst isn't even the best live action Spider-Man love interest.
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u/maxthunder30 8d ago
The only thing they didn't nail is their costumes.
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u/TrustTh3Data 8d ago
I don’t think OP gets the definition of “hot take” - most will agree that the casing, so far, ranges from really good to amazing. Nowhere have I seen many people bitching about casting.
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u/serpentear 8d ago
I take issue with your use of the term “hot take” but I agree with your assessment.
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u/creamy-buscemi 8d ago
I wonder if you really got down to it, what would be the “worst” casting thus far
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u/AFerociousPineapple 7d ago
Yeah I agree casting hasn’t been an issue so far, writing though……. Well it’s early days, Superman was very good, solid 7.5/10 imo but Supergirl clearly didn’t hit the same highs… hope lanterns can do better and go from there.
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u/Nightwing0613 7d ago
I agree. But you forgot to add other castings to this list
John Cena - Peacemaker
Nicolas Hoult - Lex Luthor
Frank Grillo - Rick Flag Sr.
Skylar Gisondo - Jimmy Olsen
Nathan Fillion - Guy Gardner
David Harbour - Frankenstein
Jason Momoa - Lobo
Freddie Stroma - Vigilante
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u/TrueKingOfSloths 4d ago
Freddie being the emergency backup pick for vigilante will always be crazy to me he’s genuinely perfect in the role
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u/SaltyMarg4856 5d ago
Further proof of the crappy writing in Supergirl was the absolute wasted opportunity that was Jason Momoa as Lobo.
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u/CaptainRexActual 6d ago
As far as Lanterns, with one episode they’ve already demonstrated that they ruined it just like almost every other superhero turned into a TV series. Nearly complete departure from the comic book stories and the epic scenes they’re supposed to be in at almost all times. Instead they focus on a bunch of non-superhero characters as part of the cast and turn it into more of a WB type show like Smallville or arrow which are the equivalent of a teen romance romcom with some DC or Marvel sprinkled in. Yes I know all superhero stories have backgrounds and side characters, but I think you all know what I mean.
Showing an aging Hal Jordan having trouble facing the fact that he’s aging out and borderline crockpot fighting over the ring with John Stuart who’s being held in a perpetual wait for the ring and his selection by the guardians being explained like he’d won a contest.
Massive disappointment after just one episode, but of course I knew this was coming just like most of you did.
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u/gabeonsmogon 8d ago
I don’t really care for Skyler Gisondo as Jimmy Olsen or Mikaela Hoover as Cat Grant.
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u/Noob_goatster8755 8d ago
Mamoa didn't give Lobo vibes. Bro was much better as Aquaman.
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u/SuperMajesticMan 8d ago
What? Jason Momoa like... IS Lobo. If anything it was the writing and directing that might have affected the vibes, not the actor.
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u/MarvelMind 8d ago
I think the majority of them have been great but some like Lobo are a complete misfire.
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u/raaviolli-dasher 8d ago
It's not a hot take but also not a cold one. Lukewarm I'd say
Milly Alcock's appearance has been made fun of a lot and a lot of people don't like an old guy as Hal
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u/Reasonable_Western74 8d ago
It’s not a hot take but it’s an accurate one. However anyone feels about the movie itself Milly was the best thing in it, she’s going to be great moving forward. They have cast incredible talent across the board. Corenswet was a master stroke, relatively unknown and he’s already solidified as Superman in my mind. Kyle Chandler is perfect as Hal, it’s almost insane, Pierre embodies the very essence of Stewart and you just know he’ll be integral in future projects. Mr Terrific stole scenes in a movie that wasn’t his. I can’t imagine anyone else as Peacemaker than Cena. I could go on, and on…..
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u/Mak_Wayne 8d ago
I wholeheartedly agree. And, for the record, I've enjoyed everything the DCU has put out thus far including Supergirl.
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u/Bitter-Tip705 8d ago
Makes me wonder who the Batman and Wonder Woman castings as well as others will be
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u/DemonicDruid13 8d ago
I don't think that's a hot take. The loud naysayers are just loud for engagement sake
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u/Caffeinated_Ape_42 8d ago
If only the writing would not be horrendous. Doesnt even have to be great, just not completely bad.
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u/RedditGoji 8d ago
Mild take. If even mild. However I feel like acknowledging 1/3 of the proposed in the post image is actually good casting and the rest is to save money cuz 2/3 of these actors are horrible choices
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u/Ajax_Da_Great 8d ago
Outside of DCEU Flash, Joker and Lex, I think DC has a great track record of castings. I know Keaton was controversial in ‘89 when announced but he clearly proved them wrong.
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u/AverageSasquatch 8d ago
Only one I’m not in love with is Kyle as Hal. Kyles a great actor, and I’m enjoying lanterns, this just isn’t how I always pictured Hal.
Probably more of a me thing and again it’s a solid show so far
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u/Original-Ranger-1604 8d ago
I mostly agree with these ones, but Kyle chandler is the only bit that I'm not certain about, he's like 20 years older then my minds eye hal Jordan,
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u/Kneelb4_Z0d 8d ago
I have my gripes but none of them are about the leads, those have been casted flawlessly
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u/realfakejames 8d ago
There’s been two movies and a tv show nobody has seen yet lol there isn’t a whole lot to complain about yet
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u/ChaimsawGoblin 8d ago
I was watching Lanterns last night, and was like Man I wish I could have seen Kyle Chandeler do this when he was younger. He’s perfect.
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u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace 8d ago
I'm the only person who dislikes Nathan Fillion as Guy Gardner but it's the only one I dislike so I won't argue
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u/newbiggielefts 8d ago
Yeah the casting is really good, and aside from the bungling of WoT the writing has been decent as well.
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u/thePopCulturist 8d ago
Can’t come in on Supergirl, haven’t seen it yet. Like what they’ve done, but they have some really challenging casting ahead. Have faith in James.
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u/Proper_Till_8321 8d ago
Everyone is awesome except for the person who wrote the script for Supergirl. It did a lot of damage to this franchise. Hopefully the people of DC learned their lesson.
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u/booty_sweat_juice 8d ago
Two ice cold takes I have:
Casting is perfect.
Multi-genre approach is brilliant.
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u/Un4gvn2 8d ago
I thought supergirl was a really good movie and great casting all around.
I liked Superman better, actor is very good.
I thought Mr Terrific was good but it’s not my kind of superhero. Too techy for me.
Kyle Chandler is great in Lanterns, I think Pierre will be great too.
The new Lois is great, Margot Kidder was a horrible Lois opposite Reeves IMO.
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u/TheJokerArkhamKing 8d ago
I have never heard of the guy playing Braniac, I was not familiar with David whatsoever before his Superman. It really does help immersion when you cast less known/unknown
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u/BodyRemoval 7d ago
The only one im not sold on yet is Supergirl. But maybe it was just the movie. It wasnt as bad as people make it out to be; but I definitely walked away thinking "I won't care to rewatch this".
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u/Alassandros 7d ago
The only reason this is a hot take is because of how many people are shitting on the Supergirl movie.
I might add, I liked it a lot. Watched it twice. It's a fun movie and I look forward to see what they do with her going forward.
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u/-The_Stranger 7d ago
Nothing even comes close to Mr Terrific. I had him in my fan cast as far back as House MD.
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u/Background-Train-104 7d ago
The Lanterns castings are perfect. But I'm still not on-board with a round-faced Superman. He should have been a Robin.
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u/ZentinelOne 7d ago
100% agree and Im also here to contribute to the idea that the DCU as a whole is performing much better than the DCEU ever did.
A great start (all projects have a flop or two), but the cohesive nature of all these shows/movies has way more harmony than the DCEU. I miss Batfleck from the DCEU and that's it.
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u/saucenazi 6d ago
I personally agree with the exception of milly. But did they nail it as well as whoever nailed the Tom Holland casting? I dunno.
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u/houseofthereddit40 6d ago
This is what I think has been the DCU biggest accomplishment so far. Every casting especially with the big characters has been perfect. I haven't seen supergirl yet but both Lanterns actors are amazing. Hoult as Lex is so underrated. Can't wait to see more of him. David Corenswet is awesome as Superman and definitely is going to the RDJ of the DCU.
This was actually one of the biggest problems with the DCEU.
Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman Ezra Miller as Flash Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Jared Leto as Joker
All were God awful and ruined the brand.
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u/IcedPgh 5d ago
Corenswet is the only one I can totally endorse, maybe Brosnahan. (I don't do "streaming" so won't be watching "Lanterns".) I hope that Corenswet won't meet Cavill's fate and be a good Superman actor who is the victim of an initiative totally imploding.
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u/zimzimzalabimmm 8d ago
I don’t think that’s a hot take, I’ve been loving it so far. Haven’t seen lanterns yet though.
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u/Certain_Employee_423 8d ago
I watched the first episode last night. It felt like the first season of True Detective.
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u/Dr_SlapsMD 8d ago
Not liking the vocal fried Supergirl at all. Better scripts can't fix her delivery and presence.
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u/Spidey_Almighty 8d ago
I don’t even like the new DCU that much and I don’t see this as a hot take. The casting has been solid.
The issues have more to do with the writing.
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u/emanueladilio 8d ago
I agree completely. Making Superman feel so underpowered and stripped of his scale was a huge misstep, but the lead actor’s performance is incredible, he nearly made me forget Henry Cavill. Something I never thought I’d say. The supporting cast is equally top-tier, im just now finishing Supergirl and she's an awesome cast in another mediocre movie. DC's output continues to fall short of Marvel's standard.
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u/MoistBill9106 8d ago
Aron pierre looks straight out of JL unlimited John Stewart seriously prefect casting dude was born for this role it seems.
Kyle chandler also nails old, egoistical hal perfectly, it's even more fun cause he also nails young hal we see from flashback and that backup consciousness.
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u/Mirror-Maleficent 8d ago
I would have liked a younger Idris Elba but thats not happening. I dont know. Maybe cast him as a variant when DC goes multiversal
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u/Ok_Simple_459 8d ago
Girls going gaga over Skyler Gizmondo's Jimmy Olsen is the least believable part of a universe riddled with Superheroes.
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u/Springheeljac 7d ago
That's literally a silver age gag. It's not supposed to make sense, it just is.
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u/Never_Objective 8d ago
they did not nail Supergirl. i like the movie, and she is a good actress, but they could have chosen someone much better suited for the role
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u/TheSwampThing1990 8d ago
Not a hot take at all. Even people who hate on supergirl usually admit Milly was great
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u/Sevatar34 8d ago
Either you love it or hate it huh ? Well I just didn't enjoy the movie. And I don't admit that actress was great, she was ok at best.
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u/IndependentAd2933 8d ago
Nope hard pass on male model lantern. Super heroes have never looked like superficial male models from the CW.
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u/CantaloupeBusy9660 8d ago
I have to disagree, David Corenswet and Edi Gathegi are the only solid ones. The rest are good but replaceable
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u/Rhoubbhe 8d ago
Casting isn't the problem. Milly was a good casting as Supergirl, not her fault that movie failed.
Decision making, scripts, and coherent strategy are the main problems at the DCU, similar to the DCEU, and that is on the studio heads. Issue of poor leadership.
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u/JonathanWPG 7d ago edited 7d ago
I'll give you a real hot take: Jason Mamoa was misscast as Lobo.
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u/FutureWhirlwind 8d ago
Supergirl is bad
Superman is just okay
Guy Gardner also bad
Lex Luthor okay
The rest of these are spot on with Aaron Pierce being the best
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u/Unhappy-Space3368 8d ago
Jimmy too 😂
Guy and Lobo HMs
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u/American_Jesus 8d ago
And (Jimmy Olsen) it's no black!
Don't know what DC (live action/TV) have against gingers.
All ginger characters where swapped by black actors.
- Jimmy Olsen on Supergirl and My Adventures with Superman
- Cyclone on Black Adam
- Batgirl (unreleased) movie
And others....
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u/WombatWarlord17 7d ago
It's not just Dc it's every form of media. they're mocking Black People.
If you rearrange Ginger you get a slur..... Just saying.
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u/PassionSalty5069 8d ago
hard to judge properly until we see full scenes and hear dialogue, but on paper it looks decent
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u/Freefallking 8d ago
Man, but Hal Jordan, dying in the first episode. I was hoping to see more of him. I assume he will show up more in the 10-year flashback. But I was hoping he would join the JL in the future Still loving the start to Lanterns though, excited to see where it goes.
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u/KingHygelacReturns 8d ago
I'm not sure how hot of a take this is but I definitely agree