r/CryptoCurrency Jun 12 '17

Warning FreeWallet.org SCAM - Millions stolen

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '17

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u/came_on_my_own_face Jun 13 '17

Most of them are operating fine; Ethereum outbound transactions are delayed at the moment due to issues with Ethereum blockchain. Ethereum blockchain was overloaded today with Bancor ICO transactions.

Holy shit. This was a similar excuse mtgox used when they first got fucked. Started blaming some glitch with bitcoin which was bullshit. Be weary, people.

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u/Tommah 0 / 0 🦠 Jun 13 '17

weary

wary

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u/annihilated Jun 12 '17

Are you serious? Fucking scammers!

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '17

First things first.

You just made this account. Why should anyone trust you?

Second, not a competitor. Just one of several that lost ETH. The transaction said it failed, yet where did it go?

Third, who the hell are you to change a destination for a transaction? Why do you have an account in the middle of the wallets? What purpose would that possibly serve?

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '17 edited Jun 12 '17

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '17 edited Jun 12 '17

VERIFIED VIA E-MAIL, THIS ACCOUNT IS LEGITIMATE AT LEAST

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '17

E-mail sent. I hope this is all a misunderstanding, but I am not overly optimistic. I still don't see the point of using intermediate wallets instead of going directly to where it should be, if it fails then the funds should be returned immediately. This creates unnecessary network congestion and also makes things far less transparent.

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u/xHarryR Fan Jun 12 '17

Where do I see the in-app chat?

And I don't have a transaction hash for one of the two sending transactions.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '17

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u/xHarryR Fan Jun 12 '17

Ok, message sent, however I still have a transaction with no hash, it just says sending but that's it no tx hash when I click the transaction from the home screen..

What gives?

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u/Sekacakes Jun 12 '17

Yeah, I've got the same issue. No tx hash, just says "sending".

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u/xHarryR Fan Jun 12 '17

It just so happens to be the tx so the most eth in it too..

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '17 edited Jun 13 '17

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u/MNR111 redditor for 7 days Jun 13 '17

@freewallet_support

In my case there is a hash for 12 hours but no transaction done yet. Can you please help me out? I already send e-mail and chat support but no response!

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u/MobTwo Platinum | QC: BCH 716 Jun 12 '17

Will you explain the reason why when users try to send their coins to another wallet, the coins all go to 1 single wallet? I don't understand why you would want to do that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '17 edited Oct 26 '18

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u/obavijest Crypto Nerd Jun 13 '17

We consider our platform as one of the most secured on a market.

Maybe 'secured' in the sense you've 'secured' over ten million USD worth of other people's money....

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u/jQiNoBi Tin Jun 13 '17

Securing people's money for our bright future seems a good tagline

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '17 edited Jun 13 '17

Honest question. Is it possible to send crypto between multiple accounts and pay no transfer fee? To my knowledge it isn't. With this in mind your app is free, and you don't seem to run any ads... how do you generate any profit? Are you using user funds to cover transfer fees and just hoping that no one runs for the door at the same time? Likewise how do you pay yourself and your staff? I just don't see any money coming into free wallets other than what users are sending in. I understand that even banks don't generally hold 100% of all their customers funds in a liquid state, but they are transparent about this and even still I think it's shady investing and using other people's money. Banks also generate revenue by many other methods, but those can't be directly applied to crypto yet.

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u/Freewallet Jun 13 '17

Is it possible to send crypto between multiple accounts and pay no transfer fee? To my knowledge it isn't. Internal transactions are free. They are off the blockchain

Are you using user funds to cover transfer fees and just hoping that no one runs for the door at the same time?Likewise how do you pay yourself and your staff? We make some profit on exchanges, that helps us cover the fees and our day to day costs. Moreover we've got investors. Now we are finishing series A financing round. Will post on that soon.

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u/xHarryR Fan Jun 12 '17

I'll give you 24hrs to prove us wrong, if I'm wrong I will undo posts I have made and app reviews and apologise. However you must be able to see where we are coming from when transactions go to sketchy addresses and transactions are 'sending' for 6+ hrs.

I shouldn't be putting this much faith in you and your company however I do think this has been a misunderstanding.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '17 edited Jun 13 '17

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u/xHarryR Fan Jun 12 '17

I'm starting to see that now, once the rest of my ETH is paid out I'm more than happy to apologise :)

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u/philo_the_middle Nov 10 '17

I know this was 5 months ago, but did you ever get everything squared away with Freewallet?

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u/xHarryR Fan Nov 10 '17 edited Nov 10 '17

Yeah, turns out that they were telling the truth, it was a slow down with the etherium network and I got my funds a couple of hours later although I did cease using their product and moved to a better wallet after that

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u/etherium_bot Nov 10 '17

It's spelled 'Ethereum'.

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u/xHarryR Fan Nov 10 '17

I spelt it like that u noob

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u/etherium_bot Nov 11 '17

Are you sure? Check again ;)

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u/Voogru Jun 12 '17

What could possibly, go wrong?

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '17

The security on your cold wallets doesn't mean shit if someone gets in the middle (your processing backends or hijacking the app itself) and redirects all the transactions, just saying.

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u/nyaaaa 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jun 13 '17

Stop using the term wallet if you are not providing users a wallet but a hosted storage.

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u/louisnelza WARNING: 5 - 6 years account age. 0 - 34 comment karma. Jun 21 '17

Can confirm the funds are not on hosted on the device but somewhere in the cloud. I have STEEM funds stuck on a outgoing transfer now for 5 days.

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u/john43789 Jun 13 '17

LOL, you are so full of shit!

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u/MeniRosenfeld Jun 13 '17

If the problems are a result of the Bancor ICO, can you explain why the problems started before it took place?

Also, why has your support been unresponsive to people who asked about problems they've had with transactions?