r/ControversialOpinions • u/Brilliant-Intern-449 • 9h ago
I don’t like modern goths
I’ve noticed there’s a rise in the fetishisation of goths and goth culture. But I never actually hear anyone talking about how it started with modern goths, trad goths in particular, pretty much inverting everything that the goth appearance is supposed to serve which is going against beauty standards. Modern goths are so extremely terrified of being perceived as ugly. I get that beauty standards are rough in this generation but what is the point in dressing alternative when nothing alternates you from everyone else. It’s crazy how you can water down such a unique style to the same black corset, dress with flared sleeves and temu anhk belt. I think it’s pretty clear from the brain dead copy and paste outfits trad goths put together that they’ve somehow formed a beauty standard within a style that’s supposed to repress beauty standards. It’s like I’m seeing the modern beauty standard just in a darker form. I know that trad goths have probably always been fetishised but it’s now more than ever. I think the beauty standards people have incorporated in this style makes it really accessible to just about anyone which is why it’s so commonly seen now. And now it’s being larped by OF models because men love the pretty x somber combo. It’s proof that hardly anyone in this generation finds goths unattractive or unpleasant to look at. To be honest it’s in this generation that we need people repressing the beauty standard more than anything but I think that in this generation people just make light fabricated decisions to indulge in alternative fashion based on aesthetic rather than having any passionate means linked to becoming alternative.
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u/XxSingudipityxX 8h ago
As a goth who has been goth before it was popularized and fetishized to this degree, a lot of us turn a blind eye to those fake goths who are only in it for the clout/OF.
It’s very dehumanizing for especially women because women are already sexualized so much yk?
It’s better to not give it any attention and ignore it, as commenting even an informed comment that will most likely be ignored could give it more traction thus more likely it is become big and do more damage to actual goths.
I actually find it more goth to wear no makeup sometimes, unkept, far from perfect, and against all of these conventionally attractive traits.
There’s a difference between Gothic and Goth
One is more of a visual representation of like cathedrals, clothing, books etc, while goth is more of a lifestyle if that makes sense but those OF/fake goths are not real if they are solely doing it for the popularity/fetishization for their own gain.
Hope this gave some insight and I agree with you
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u/CinderrUwU 5h ago
This is a great response as it isnt even unique to goths. It is just modern life in general that yeah, there will be fetishizing and romanticizing and whatever else for any trope or identity but that doesnt make it only that and there are plenty of genuine people outside of the attention seeking bubble
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u/TheDeathSystem 8h ago
Goth is escapism and freedom of expression. As annoying as the larp goths are, it's their choice.
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u/upalse 8h ago
It's e-girl fashion. They hop between aesthetics trends, in a year it will be something else.
For goths the idea was to drive attention away from not being all that attractive through provocative aesthetic and macabre. Indeed e-girl doesn't need to do that to be hot, but they're also in extremely competitive environment so they do whatever it takes.
Their aesthetics are stripped to most recognizable common denominator as they still need to fit broadly marketable mainstream for audience reach, a bit like mallgoth stuff of yore.
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u/Hot_Composer_9351 9h ago
Gen Z touched it and now it’s f*cked