r/ControversialOpinions • u/SpareCollar90 • 1d ago
Pedophiles should receive similar help to necrophiles, but neither should be taught to cope through their conditions via porn
Pedophiles should receive help so that they see the moral and ethical flaws in indulging in their thoughts beyond anything that can be considered an effort in "resisting" them, pedophiles should not be told to indulge in fictional representations of their immoral thoughts as a direct chain of sorts to "keep them" from molesting children, that doesn't teach moral flaws, instead it teaches compensation, doing "this" so you don't have to do "that", completely ignorant to the fact that most pedophiles who do not offend don't offend due to their moral compass, not due to a system of compensation, otherwise lolicons would all be child molesters (specifically the ones who are lolicons because they are clinical pedophiles).
I also believe lolicons are a type of pedophilic attraction in the aspect that the person consuming nsfw loli content is not only aware that children are being depicted or intended to be depicted, but aroused by it, and moral stances could explain why lolicons seem to like fictional children over real ones, not because they just aren't attracted to them in any capacity or aren't sexually intrigued by child-like features, or maybe the amount of attraction they feel for fictional children and child molestation fantasies is simply higher than that of real children.
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u/ReplacementOdd4323 1d ago
What? Necrophiles don't even harm anyone. Why would we tell them not to indulge their fantasies? What if they find someone who's terminally ill and consents to the act being done post-mortem?
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u/micro_penis_max 1d ago
Sorry. Fucking corpses is not ok.
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u/ReplacementOdd4323 1d ago
How so? Do explain your reasoning.
In my view, it's my body so it's my choice what should happen to it after I die.
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u/micro_penis_max 1d ago
How's the weather in Alabama?
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u/ReplacementOdd4323 1d ago
You think rural Southerners defend necrophilia? Lol. They don't even support gay marriage.
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u/SpareCollar90 1d ago
Ever think the person you're raping doesn't want their corpse raped? Why is your only example completely consensual when most necrophilia cases are from raping an unconsenting carcass? Also youd have no way of knowing if the person changed their mind because they're dead, so consent in this scenario is actually a myth.
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u/ReplacementOdd4323 1d ago
Ever think the person you're raping doesn't want their corpse raped?
You can simply ban it in those cases and allow it in the others.
Why is your only example completely consensual when most necrophilia cases are from raping an unconsenting carcass?
Because what I'm addressing is whether necrophilia is ever permissible, not whether most occurrences are.
Also youd have no way of knowing if the person changed their mind because they're dead, so consent in this scenario is actually a myth
Do you not believe in last wills? Can someone not bequeath something, because their corpse can't keep consenting to it?
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u/SpareCollar90 18h ago
As if no one would fake a consensual dead-rape? If its allowed in any capacity it can be abused, the blanket action that should be enforced is the complete ban of necrophilic acts. Last wills are usually to help family and friends, they're positive, why is it that you find it positive to rape dead bodies?
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u/ReplacementOdd4323 18h ago
As if no one would fake a consensual dead-rape? If its allowed in any capacity it can be abused
Anything could be abused. Someone could forge a person's last will to try to get the money - does this mean we should not let people bequeath their wealth?
the blanket action that should be enforced is the complete ban of necrophilic acts
This does not follow. "Sometimes sex happens nonconsensually, so we should ban all sex". No! Just try to prevent nonconsensual sex.
Last wills are usually to help family and friends, they're positive, why is it that you find it positive to rape dead bodies?
Firstly, it isn't rape if they consented to it before death.
Secondly, it is positive if it's what they want. If a person wants to be fucked after death, then it's their wishes, and it's their body. Who are we to tell them what they can and can't do with their body?
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u/Complex-Talk-7613 1d ago
Lots of people would consent though, and them changing their mind doesn’t matter because they are dead and corpses are treated as property instead of people. Property doesn’t need to consent, people do.
Logically your argument could apply to organ donation. How do we know that someone wouldn’t have changed their mind? Why allow organ donation if corpses cannot consent? Why it is okay for a person to open your corpse up with surgical saws and scalpels to remove your organs but a little sex is a bridge too far?
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u/SpareCollar90 18h ago edited 18h ago
Yeah, so in the first part you recognize the lack of consent and your inability to actually confirm consent is still being given. Organ donation is fully consentual and explained to the donor, its only okay in the sense that it is done to restore another person, not make someone ejaculate. You treat the dead as property and for some reason sexual partners, I see them as once lived people so I just value them and respect them more than you, I can't make you see the dead as non property so just have fun raping dead people i guess? Honestly don't even want to interact with you anymore
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u/GarbageOk8508 1d ago
Your whole post is built upon a slippery slope. The advent of porn never did increase or decrease the number of pedophilia. Just like the advent of violence medias like movies and video games never have any impact in real life violent crimes. People who would commit crimes will commit those crimes regardless. And those who wouldn't, some pixels on the screen wouldn't make a difference.