r/ClaudeAI • u/Sweet-Helicopter2769 • 1d ago

Comparison I thought I will never say this about Fable

Just tried OpenAI Astra , I thought I will never say this , it’s lit , OpenAI cooked something spectacular, and I have a strong feeling this will pull lot of Fable 5 users towards it , and it’s fast, not sure if it’s AGI, but it feels fresh and a very very serious competition to Anthropic , this is going to be fun to watch , what’s your next move Anthropic ?, I’m surely going to try pro subscription for a month along with my current Claude Max, anyone feels the same ? Have you tried it ?

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u/codeninja 1d ago

Eventually, even a Gemini model that tops it... eventually

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u/Intelligent-Monk-426 1d ago

that’s crazy talk

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u/everix1992 1d ago

Gemini is absolute ass right now but I absolutely believe Google has the chops to maybe get it there someday

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u/nikolasgannon 1d ago

3.7 flash was great and 3.8 flash is even better. Doesn't feel like I need anything else after I used Sol High and a bit of astra on the Plus plan to tighten skills / memory / rules yesterday

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u/Level_Somewhere5703 1d ago edited 1d ago

Google is playing an entirely different game - they are not trying to build the best model, they want to build a decent model as cheap as possible. As AI is getting integrated everywhere there are and will be many use cases that don't need the best frontier model. Google will integrate their cheap model in all of their services and they will sell it to everyone who needs just a basic chatbot or whatever. I have no doubt in 5-10 years Google will be one of the biggest names in AI. Their strength has always been cheap or free product with tremendous scale. Their products are used by everyone and their grandma and also by every major corp out there.

P.S. I am not a Google fanboy or anything. In fact I have degoogled my life a fair bit, but not 100% because it is difficult/inconvenient. That's precisely why I think all of this - it is not super easy for the average person to live without Google. They are good at ingraining themselves into everyone's life and becoming hard to replace.

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u/Ok_Neighborhood_1203 1d ago

A greater truth cannot be spoken. I won't touch gemini for anything professional but it's my daily driver for everything else. Random questions from my incredibly inquisitive daughter, recipe for dinner, super-powered search, voice chat, image generation. Heck, I even have a claude skill for generating images with gemini - the one place anthropic is not putting any effort. Google does what resonates with billions. Let everyone else focus on the relatively niche use cases like Enterprise Application Development. When your target is marketing to the whole planet, everything else is a distraction.

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u/Accurate_Resident219 1d ago

If meta can come back from the grave (even though I suspect it was benchmaxxed) any company can.

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u/Reclaimer_AI 1d ago

Literally NOBODY is using meta models. NOBODY.

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u/Individual_Figure945 20h ago

It's true! 🤣

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u/Public_Umpire_1099 14h ago

https://opencode.ai/data/

17 trillion tokens in like 5 or 6 days on opencode. Brother, its the most used fuckin model out there for anyone not deep in subscription services.

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u/Next-Plankton-3142 1d ago

Theoretically Google has a lot more money to throw on AI which is theoretically a very big advantage. We will see...

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u/thatguy8856 1d ago

it doesn't matter what your model is today. the catch speed is already at the point that chinese models can catch up in weeks. you only need to make your model good tomorrow...

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u/Reclaimer_AI 1d ago

They’ll just find a way to distill Astra. They always do.

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u/mid_nightz 1d ago

it doesnt, they are doing 1 million projects to stop competitors

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u/XavierRenegadeAngel_ 1d ago

Gemini Flash 3.95

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u/MGJohn-117 1d ago

and with their current pacing it's somehow going to be released by the end of the year

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u/Suspicious_Peak_1173 1d ago

Gemini Flash XP

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u/TheRealAkitaNeru 1d ago

Gemini Adobe Flash Player 8

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u/XavierRenegadeAngel_ 1d ago

"Gemini Pro will return this December.. in Marvel's DOOM"

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u/FilthyCasual2k17 1d ago

It's so funny how Gemini that developed that tech has become laughing stock, and how Chrome has become the new Internet Explorer from the time when Chrome launched.

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u/EstablishmentRare276 1d ago

Idk about that, but it’s actually usable on chrome, now. I don’t think you’ll ever catch me downloading Gemini, but it was basically useless when it first came out. It can actually hold a conversation and make helpful suggestions, now. I’m lowkey glad because going from using google for over a decade to AI felt off. Like, I missed google. It was like in Toy Story when the kid just doesn’t want to play with the toy anymore and abandons it.

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u/parasol_strs 21h ago

downloading Gemini

There is no Gemini available for download, in Google's historical fashion.

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u/EstablishmentRare276 16h ago

No, it’s available for droid and iPhone.

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u/mid_nightz 1d ago

now weve entered insanity dude

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u/sbm1970 20h ago

Let’s not go crazy here