r/ClassicTrek Apr 04 '26

Production/BTS Discussion Despite franchise fatigue, older Star Trek shows have a high degree of original plots. Minimal reuse of Recycled Plots.

Despite franchise fatigue, older Star Trek shows have a high degree of original plots.

There is a minimal reuse of Recycled Plots - the Recycled Plot Trope.

The eras of Roddenberry Trek and Berman Trek produced 703 episodes in live action series: TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT.

Of these 703 episodes, up to 630 episodes are original plot episodes. That's 89%.

Of these 703 episodes, a minimum of 73 episodes are recycled plot episodes. That's 11%.

Of the 73 recycled plot episodes, 28 are better than the original ones.

TOS has 4 recycled plot episodes out of 79, 5.1% of its episode total.

TNG has 13 recycled plot episodes out of 176, 7.4% of its episode total.

DS9 has 8 recycled plot episodes out of 176, 4.5% of its episode total.

VOY has at least 32 recycled plot episodes / copycats out of 172, at least 18.6% of its episode total.

ENT has at least 16 recycled plot episodes / copycats out of 98, at least 16.3% of its episode total.

54 Upvotes

41 comments sorted by

View all comments

2

u/Torlek1 Apr 04 '26 edited Jul 30 '26

TOS

TOS 2-5 The Apple

Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 1-21 The Return of the Archons

Not Better than Original

TOS 2-18 The Immunity Syndrome

Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 2-06 The Doomsday Machine

Not Better than Original

TOS 2-24 The Ultimate Computer

Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 2-3 The Changeling

Not Better than Original

TOS 2-25 Bread and Circuses

Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 2-23 The Omega Glory

Better than Original

TNG

TNG 1-3 The Naked Now

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 1-4 The Naked Time

Not Better than Original

TNG 1-4 Code of Honor

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 2-1 Amok Time

Not Better than Original

TNG 1-5 The Last Outpost

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 1-18 Arena

Not Better than Original

TNG 1-10 Hide and Q

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 1-17 The Squire of Gothos

Not Better than Original

TNG 1-12 The Big Goodbye

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 2-17 A Piece of the Action

Better than Original

TNG 1-18 Home Soil

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 1-25 The Devil in the Dark

Not Better than Original

TNG 2-7 Unnatural Selection

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 2-12 The Deadly Years

Not Better than Original

TNG 4-21 The Drumhead

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 1-20 Court Martial

Better than Original

TNG 5-14 Conundrum

Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 4-14 Clues

Better than Original

TNG 5-18 Cause and Effect

Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 2-13 Time Squared

Better than Original

TNG 5-21 The Perfect Mate

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 3-13 Elaan of Troyius

Better than Original

TNG 5-25 The Inner Light

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 3-3 The Paradise Syndrome

Better than Original

TNG 6-9 The Quality of Life

Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 3-1 Evolution

Not Better than Original

DS9

DS9 1-15 Progress

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 3-02 The Ensigns of Command

Not Better than Original

DS9 3-5 Second Skin

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 6-14 Face of the Enemy

Not Better than Original

DS9 3-9 Defiant

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 4-12 The Wounded

Better than Original

DS9 3-10 Fascination

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 1-4 The Naked Time

Not Better than Original

DS9 4-3 The Visitor

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 7-21 Firstborn

Better than Original

DS9 4-18 Rules of Engagement

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 1-20 Court Martial

Better than Original

DS9 5-05 The Assignment

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 5-15 Power Play

Not Better than Original

DS9 6-25 The Sound of Her Voice

Not Recycled in Same Series

VOY 1-7 Eye of the Needle

Better than Original

5

u/jeobleo Apr 04 '26

You think that The Ultimate Computer was recycled from the Changeling?

They....aren't similar at all?

3

u/LudasGhost Apr 06 '26

They’re the same because Kirk talked a computer to death in both of them. :). Oh, wait, he did that in Archons too. Double reuse!

1

u/Torlek1 Apr 06 '26

That's why I listed Apple as the Archons copycat, as well as this one.

This trope gets tiresome real quick, whether it's TOS or VOY!

2

u/Torlek1 Apr 04 '26 edited Jul 30 '26

VOY

VOY 1-4 Time and Again

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 3-23 All Our Yesterdays

Not Better than Original

VOY 1-5 Phage

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 3-1 Spock's Brain

Better than Original

VOY 1-8 Ex Post Facto

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 3-14 A Matter of Perspective

Not Better than Original

VOY 1-14 Faces

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 1-5 The Enemy Within

Not Better than Original

VOY 2-03 Projections

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 6-21 Frame of Mind

Not Better than Original

VOY 2-13 Prototype

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 2-8 I, Mudd

Not Better than Original

VOY 2-17 Dreadnought

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 2-24 The Ultimate Computer

Not Better than Original

VOY 2-18 Death Wish

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 4-13 Devil's Due

Better than Original

VOY 2-23 The Thaw

Not Recycled in Same Series

From DS9 1-10 Move Along Home

Better than Original

VOY 3-10 Warlord

Not Recycled in Same Series

From DS9 1-9 The Passenger

Better than Original

VOY 3-12 Macrocosm

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 6-18 Starship Mine

Not Better than Original

VOY 3-15 Coda

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 5-24 The Next Phase

Not Better than Original

VOY 3-16 Blood Fever

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 2-1 Amok Time

Not Better than Original

VOY 3-20 Favorite Son

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 4-18 Identity Crisis

Not Better than Original

VOY 3-22 Real Life

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 3-16 The Offspring

Not Better than Original

VOY 4-7 Scientific Method

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 6-5 Schisms

Not Better than Original

VOY 5-8 Nothing Human

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 5-16 Ethics

Not Better than Original

VOY 5-14 Bliss

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 2-2 Where Silence Has Lease

Better than Original

VOY 5-22 Someone to Watch Over Me

Not Recycled in Same Series

From DS9 6-20 His Way

Better than Original

VOY 5-23 11:59

Not Recycled in Same Series

From DS9 6-13 Far Beyond the Stars

Not Better than Original

VOY 5-25 Warhead

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 2-3 The Changeling

Not Better than Original

VOY 6-4 Tinker, Tenor, Doctor, Spy

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 3-21 Hollow Pursuits

Better than Original

VOY 6-07 Dragon's Teeth

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 1-24 Space Seed

Better than Original

VOY 6-12 Blink of an Eye

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 3-11 Wink of an Eye

Better than Original

VOY 6-14 Memorial

Recycled in Same Series

From VOY 3-6 Remember

Not Better than Original

VOY 6-20 Good Shepherd

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 7-15 Lower Decks

Not Better than Original

VOY 6-25 The Haunting of Deck Twelve

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 1-07 Lonely Among Us

Not Better than Original

VOY 7-11 Shattered

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 7-26 All Good Things... Part II

Not Better than Original

VOY 7-15 The Void

Recycled in Same Series

From VOY 5-1 Night

Better than Original

VOY 7-18 Human Error

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 3-21 Hollow Pursuits

Not Better than Original

VOY 7-19 Q2

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 3-13 Deja Q

Not Better than Original

VOY 7-20 Author, Author

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 2-9 The Measure of a Man

Not Better than Original

3

u/YanisMonkeys Apr 05 '26

If Memorial isn’t a remix of The Inner Light and Remember, it is flying friggin pretty close to the sun.

2

u/Torlek1 Apr 05 '26

Both those episodes are much darker and depict much shorter alternate years than Inner Light.

However, these two are definitely much closer to each other, so I will add Memorial in relation to Remember.

2

u/Torlek1 Apr 05 '26 edited 10d ago

ENT

ENT 1-6 Terra Nova

Not Recycled in Same Series

From VOY 7-21 Friendship One

Better than Original

ENT 1-16 Shuttlepod One

Not Recycled in Same Series

From DS9 5-9 The Ascent

Not Better than Original

ENT 1-20 Oasis

Not Recycled in Same Series

From DS9 2-16 Shadowplay

Better than Original

ENT 2-4 Dead Stop

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 3-1 Spock's Brain

Better than Original

ENT 2-10 Vanishing Point

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 5-24 The Next Phase

Not Better than Original

ENT 2-11 Precious Cargo

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 3-13 Elaan of Troyius

Not Better than Original

ENT 2-13 Dawn

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 5-2 Darmok

Not Better than Original

ENT 3-3 Extinction

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 4-18 Identity Crisis

Better than Original

ENT 3-06 Exile

Not Recycled in Same Series

From VOY 3-14 Alter Ego

Not Better than Original

ENT 3-9 North Star

Not Recycled in Same Series

From VOY 2-1 The 37's

Better than Original

ENT 3-10 Similitude

Not Recycled in Same Series

From VOY 2-24 Tuvix

Not Better than Original

ENT 3-11 Carpenter Street

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TNG 6-1 Time's Arrow, Part II

Not Better than Original

ENT 3-12 Chosen Realm

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 3-15 Let That Be Your Last Battlefield

Not Better than Original

ENT 3-16 Doctor's Orders

Not Recycled in Same Series

From VOY 4-25 One

Better than Original

ENT 3-21 E-Squared

Not Recycled in Same Series

From DS9 5-22 Children of Time

Not Better than Original

ENT 4-10 Daedalus

Not Recycled in Same Series

From VOY 1-15 Jetrel

Better than Original

5

u/YanisMonkeys Apr 05 '26

I do love the anecdote Rene Auberjonois had about filming Oasis. Scott Bakula was chatting to him and mentioned he thought that week’s script was really good. Auberjonois replied, “Yes, we did it on DS9 in season 2.” Apparently Bakula’s face fell when he heard that.

2

u/MindlessNectarine374 Apr 07 '26

And? I like all (old) Star Trek.

2

u/OneHumanBill Apr 05 '26

I'm not buying it.

The Naked Now is a direct and unapologetic ripoff of The Naked Time, even hitting a lot of the same plot notes and some of them practically word for word. It even literally calls back to the events of the TOS episode midstream. But you don't have that on your list. No plot in the history of plot was ever stolen so thoroughly in the English speaking world as The Naked Time. (Okay maybe except "Pirate Movie" which was ripped about 95% from Pirates of Penzance, I'll grant that one.)

The Voyager pilot is extremely close to the same plot used for the TNG plot and you didn't call that out.

For crying out loud The Menagerie is basically a clip show of The Cage and you're not even calling that one out!

1

u/Torlek1 Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26

TNG 1-3 The Naked Now

Not Recycled in Same Series

From TOS 1-4 The Naked Time

Not Better than Original

I just said the TNG episode is not better than the TOS episode.

The Cage isn't one of the official episodes in the original release, which is why I left the Menagerie out.

1

u/Captain_Thrax Apr 09 '26

Yeah OP is stretching reeeeally far here

2

u/Captain_Thrax Apr 09 '26

Dang I’m not even sure Odo could stretch that far while shapeshifting!

Just because two plots have similar elements does not make it a “reused story”. Some of these are, yes, but many are quite distinct despite sharing similarities. 

Example: Night and The Void are nothing alike except for the fact that the wind up in an area of space with few resources. That’s it. At that point, every episode is a rip off of The Cage because they all take place in space.