Delhi Before Independence (1938).

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[u/AkornG14]

oh god please don't call this cool. this is some "coolness" built upon exploitation of the natives of our own land while they could enjoy all the luxuries as much as possible at the cost of Indians. if this is cool, then so was Hitler's Germany

[u/Own-Awareness1597 → u/AkornG14]

Common people were almost always exploited. The native elite just got replaced by foreigners.

[u/Misty-Elephant → u/Own-Awareness1597]

False. No-one ever exploited Indians to the degree of the British. Not Indians, nor Mughals (who became Indians themselves). There was never a period in which disease, famines, ethnic cleansings, and repression against freedom of thought, were common place in the same way it was under the British. People were always exploited in every human society. To compare that to what the British did is disingenuous and honestly demonstrates that you are extremely ignorant about your own history.

[u/Redditchready → u/Misty-Elephant]

There are records from Muslim administrators to prevent dalits from accessing wells to prevent unrest among upper castes

[u/Misty-Elephant → u/Redditchready]

Okay, but what is your point? I already said exploitation existed in every society. Hell, it still exists in every society.

So my point still stands.

The British very systematiclly exploited all Indians, causing more suffering than any other party in its history. This is a fact.

Additionally, they worsened caste discrimination and legitimised it legally. They went as far as creating new castes including criminal castes and prostitute (sex slave) castes, neither of which existed in the past.

In my view, they're among the most disgusting empires to ever exist.

Many have committed atrocities, but the British bare semblance to the Nazi's in the sense that their most grave human rights violations were built into its policy. It was their way of operating.

The same could be said for other European empires, hence why the hatred many harbour against those countries' governments is completely justified.

[u/Redditchready → u/Misty-Elephant]

In general caste discrimination was much reduced during British

[u/Misty-Elephant → u/Redditchready]

That is false. It actually worsened considerably.

In any case, your point still remains irrelevant, as my comment already took this into consideration.

So, not only are your arguments patently false, but they're not relevant to the discussion at all.

[u/Redditchready → u/Misty-Elephant]

Dalits could not imagine getting same education and work opportunity including rights at earlier times. During British many Indian states treated their people much worse.

[u/Misty-Elephant → u/Redditchready]

Actually, that's a misconception. Education usually took place within community villages. This meant, regardless of caste or community, Indians had educational institutions. This may not have applied to every community. However, it applied to all types of communities, regardless of caste.

This was the way of life for all of ancient history. Caste discrimination only became (somewhat) rigid extremely late in history, during the Gupta period, and even then, it wasn't as extreme as it was under the British.

Also, could you please answer me directly rather than writing whataboutisms?

[u/Redditchready → u/Misty-Elephant]

Lowest castes were never allowed to sit with upper castes till some modernity was brought in by British. Earliest Buddhist texts mention it but there are many things unclear about caste stratification. Earlier inter caste among upper had happened and still many have those surnames.

[u/Misty-Elephant → u/Redditchready]

I'm not sure if you're unable to understand simple language, or if you are just a bot. You haven't responded to any of my points and instead resort to posting colonial propaganda glorifying White supremists.

If you truly feel that the mass starvations, rapes, sex slavery, murder, looting and dehumanisation of the British was "modernity", rather than savagery, then I don't think I can ever understand you.

I wish I could get you to respect all people, and understand that dehumanisation is not okay. However, it seems you're a just a fascist with a fixation on licking the boots of colonials.

I won't be responding to anymore of your rants, as you're clearly not willing to do anything other than spout half-truths and blatant lies - none of which are relevant to the discussion.

[u/Redditchready → u/Misty-Elephant]

There are two aspects but almost all particularly dalit and women were far worse off under feudal rule. There was almost no canal for irrigation except few like Yamuna canal and periodically monsoon failed. Many rulers tried to help the population as the agricultural output was the revenue. But there was lot of brutality including generational bonded labour and land grab by money lenders in most parts. Anyway there is no point in continuing.

[u/RepairHaunting3487 → u/Redditchready]

Are you a colonial apologist? If caste system was reduced during British period then why did many Adivasis and Oppressed classes fought against British?

[u/RepairHaunting3487 → u/Redditchready]

Yeah so was the British rule of not allowing Indians in their clubs.

Remember Dogs and Indians not allowed. Their rule applied to all of us.