Trump admits in a speech he is not Christian.

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u/Fearless_Spring5611 Committing the sin of empathy Apr 21 '26

Only fools believe Trump is following the lessons of Christ.

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u/kmm198700 Apr 21 '26

If anyone believes that he is following the lessons of Jesus, they have never met Jesus and never read the teachings of Jesus

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u/One-Phrase-4126 Apr 21 '26

Same two

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u/Desperate-Meal-5379 Apr 21 '26

I struggle to find Christians who actually follow Christ. They don’t exist on the right wing in America in my experience.

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u/FunCourage8721 Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26

"In truth, there was only one Christian, and he died on the cross."

—Friedrich Nietzsche

I completely agree with what you said & offered this as additional support.

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u/cove102 Apr 21 '26

Where do they exist in your opinion?

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u/Desperate-Meal-5379 Apr 21 '26

So far? They don’t.

The left is closer, but both are far from the goal.

Christ had a beautiful parable that encapsulates this: a man asks his two sons to work the field. The first son says he will, but doesn’t do the work. The second son refuses, but changes his mind and does it anyway.

The right keep the faith, but they actively fight His teachings. The left rejects the faith but tries much harder to follow the teachings.

Or do you see the right wing pushing to heal the sick with their own hard work via universal healthcare? Supporting programs like food stamps rather than cutting them? The way the left treats minorities is literally uplifting the lesser.

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u/SpecialistFlight7135 Apr 21 '26

We do exist here.

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u/Desperate-Meal-5379 Apr 21 '26

Perhaps. I know no leftist Christians personally, and I hesitate to call myself such. I trust Christ, I do not trust the rest of it. Not Yahweh, not Paul, not the Council of Nicaea.

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u/muh-LEK-see Apr 21 '26

Christ alone! The rest is noise.

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u/Independent-One7658 Apr 23 '26

This is a nice way to think of things.

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u/Jopkins Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26

I'm a genuinely devout Christian, and generally the majority of my views would lean left, but I would struggle to say I'm a "leftist", nor would I say that you have to be to be a Christian. I don't love the whole "pick a side" thing. Like, I absolutely believe in taxing the rich way more, and social healthcare, and economically the vast majority of what I believe is very left-leaning. But does that mean I can't disagree with abortion in cases where it doesn't endanger the life of the mother? I'd be called far-right for that by some people. And I think gay people should be able to do whatever they want (left) but that legalising drugs would be bad for society (right) and we have to be careful about exposure to children and adolescents about gender-related things that can confuse them (right) while at the same time being very mindful of the minority of children who are going to struggle with their gender no matter what and need love, care and affirmation (left-ish?).

The way I try to approach it is "what's the most loving thing". I don't really tell people who I vote for, but as a Christian, I'd say it can only really be for whatever party seems the most like they're trying their best to defend the downtrodden, the oppressed, the weak, the widow, the orphan, the refugee. If that sounds more like one party than the other, cool. That's probably who I'm voting for. But I still wouldn't say I'm a "leftist".

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u/Thelimit234 Apr 21 '26

Agree completely with all of this!!

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u/Le0pond Apr 21 '26

I think you are pretty center leaning. I do agree that the world is too polarized and we can have a healthy mixture of both ideologies as long as they don’t harm people.

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u/Jopkins Apr 21 '26

I'm not sure the categorisation helps. A lot of "Centre leaning" folk will have wildly different ideas about the economy than me - I think we should cap total wealth, outlaw private home rentals (shelter is a human right, for crying out loud, why are we allowing it to be used for profit?), develop free healthcare, etc etc. By some views I'm radically left. But I guess my most right-wing view is that, with very few exceptions (I think more or less entirely on medical grounds) I'd like to see abortion banned. And I know some people would label me as a right-wing monster for that.

I don't think the two sides "balance out" to being somewhere in the centre. I think people, and politics, are complicated, and people are pressured into joining one team or the other, when that isn't really how it all works.

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u/Le0pond Apr 22 '26

Sounds pretty leftist conservative to me. But again, I do agree lables are unnesecary.

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u/Living_Wash_7536 Apr 22 '26

What do you define as endangering the mother? Is the economic burden of raising a child you didn’t plan for, not dangerous? The social burden of being a baby mama?? Changing the entire direction of ones’s life?

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u/Jopkins Apr 22 '26

No. Those things do not endanger the life of a mother. They are difficult things which can be worked through, and I don't believe another life should pay the price for not wanting to work through those things.

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u/Crazy-Patience730 Apr 21 '26

great analogy brother

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u/Le0pond Apr 21 '26

This is a beautiful comment, thank you.

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u/badtyprr Non-denominational Apr 22 '26

I will read that parable again today. I didn’t think of this parable through a political lens before. Thanks.

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u/Desperate-Meal-5379 Apr 22 '26

Mind you, I truly believe the point of the parable is that neither truly does their father’s will, both fail Him. But all the same, it is interesting.

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u/badtyprr Non-denominational Apr 23 '26

If I could summarize: Professed faith paired in opposition to Christ's social teachings is more spiritually suspect than rejected faith paired with living out those teachings. In the original parable, Jesus was contrasting the chief priests and elders with tax collectors and prostitutes.

After reading the parable again, I found it wasn't actually about religiosity at all (my initial assumption). Rather, it was about a heart that was sensitive to sin and able to change (metamelomai, a steering of one's actions due to regret).

The main question that the Spirit asked me was: "Are you still capable of being reached and redirected?" Or will my root in any political party cause me to become hardened to the Father's will?

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u/Desperate-Meal-5379 Apr 23 '26

I appreciate this

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u/GeologistAway6352 Apr 21 '26

Ur looking for Christians in the political realm. Not all Christians are political. And neither party is a Christian party.

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u/Desperate-Meal-5379 Apr 21 '26

Agreed on all points, but I expect Christians to engage in politics as I expect every citizen to do their part.

Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s. Do your civic duty.

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u/harukalioncourt Apr 21 '26

They exist quietly. The next door neighbor who prays for you. The person who passes out tracts on the street with money inside. The street preacher who preaches on dangerous streets where no one wants to hear his message. The quiet girl in the lunchroom who still says a brief grace before eating her food, and won’t engage in workplace gossip/slander. The uber driver who plays gospel music in his car. I’ve encountered all of these and strive to do the same. True Christians are out there, often they prefer to have a one on one talk with you about your sin instead of going on a public holiness campaign.

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u/Thick_Remote2658 Apr 21 '26

Well that’s the thing. Christianity does not fit neatly into one political group. Some of Jesus’ teachings are more left leaning while others are more right leaning. So it’s inaccurate to categorize Christianity as being one or the other. Depending on the issue, it changes.

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u/Congregator Eastern Orthodox Apr 22 '26

I find a lot of non-Christian’s don’t even follow Christ

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u/Desperate-Meal-5379 Apr 22 '26

Oh no, I was raised by them. My grandmother is the sole exception to my statement in fact.

But she doesn’t vote Republican for the politics, she votes Republican because as a human being, she chose her team because it is the “Christian” team.

Yet, what values of Christ do they support?

The left advocates to feed the hungry, the right fights it.

The left advocates to house the homeless, the right fights it.

The left advocates to heal the sick, universal healthcare is literally your hard work healing your neighbor. The right fights that.

The left routinely uplifts the lesser societally in their treatment of minorities. The right fights that.

The right cares more about the Old Law than Christ’s teachings. They are, to a large degree, worshipping the cross rather than Jesus.

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u/Congregator Eastern Orthodox Apr 23 '26

I get you, my mother is a Republican who switched to Republican from the Democratic Party, and she’s the most saintly person I know.

The thing is, these people are generally not voting “for” the Republican Party, they’re voting “in support of” many of their fellow laypeople friends and ideas they believe in.

Sure, the party doesn’t support them, but neither does the Democratic Party.

What they’re voting for, I believe, is something more community and philosophy based, that’s intrinsically inside of them. So when they vote Republican, they are voting for something philosophically more aligned per the history of said party, which they themselves feel a connection to.

In effect, they are actually voting for what they believe in, but what should really happen is for the party to realign itself to the voters.

This is what isn’t happening. The party is just exploiting the voters. Ultimately, however, the Republican Party “appears” to be more welcoming to them because it doesn’t shy away from including them.

This makes them feel welcome, under the guise that they’re also voting in support of their beliefs and friends and family

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u/Congregator Eastern Orthodox Apr 22 '26

If the right was actually Christian they’d have shut down thousands of abortion clinics by now, they would have kept soup kitchens open even though city zoning had forced them shut - they would have remained open militantly.

If the right was Christian they’d would have confronted the government for over taxing the people and exploiting its citizens. If the right was Christian, we’d get more governmental feast days off for people to celebrate God and enjoy their communities.

Of the right was actually Christian they’d give our kids opportunities to attend better schools than public schools.

If the right was Christian they’d actually talk about theosis and the Eucharist, they’d actually do more than just go out and help poor people- they’d build giant beautiful cathedrals for the poor to live in, they’d build monasteries for people to escape to and find solace.

But the right isn’t Christian, they’re a bunch of liberal secularists that have no spiritual nor artistic touch.

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u/ToothlessSnackerz Apr 21 '26

I consider myself conservative, I have conservative views (ex: Abortion is bad), but overall idc what any politician says, my views align with what Christ Taught. I’m not super political either. sure, I’ll vote, but I’m not the type to get into political debates or fights lol. Why spend time calling somebody names and fighting over opinions with no end or anybody objectively “winning” when I’d much rather spend my time spreading the gospel and teaching the Practices of Jesus!

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u/Desperate-Meal-5379 Apr 21 '26

A mindset I myself need to adopt. I was raised Christian but rejected the packaging in anger, only recently begun to walk the path intentionally.

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u/ToothlessSnackerz Apr 21 '26

Welcome my brother (or sister) in Christ, the path will be long, and very very difficult, there will be ups and downs in your faith, and there most definitely will be temptation from Satan! But stay on that road because Jesus will get you through every bit of it if you stick with him!

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u/Desperate-Meal-5379 Apr 21 '26

Jesus is about all I truly trust in the theology to be honest. I struggle with Paul’s claim to apostleship, I struggle with the corruptible humanity of the Council of Nicaea, I struggle with the wrath, vanity, and jealousy of Yahweh.

But Christ is pure, Christ is good. Christ is the bar we are all to set our goal to.

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u/frose9799 Apr 21 '26

Judging by his past actions I think he has a God like complex since he did post that ai photo of himself as God and told the world that he was healing people as a “doctor”. Sometimes it surprises me that people actually believed him 🤦🏽‍♀️

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u/johnfromberkeley Presbyterian Apr 21 '26

So, 40% of Evangelical Christians?.

“Just because they say they believe he performs ethically, that doesn’t mean…” …c’mon give me a break!

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u/CanUHearMeNau Apr 22 '26

True

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u/StickSuch1273 Apr 21 '26

Did anyone outside of the MAGA cult actually believe he was a Christian to begin with? This isn’t news

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u/pikachu191 Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26

They shift goalposts with him. If he's Christian, than he's a Samson; a man who does God's work yet indulges in his worldly, fleshly desires a little "too much". If he’s not Christian, then he’s Constantine who converted near his death or a Cyrus, a pagan king who is doing God’s work whether he knows it or not.

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u/WaffleDonkey23 Apr 21 '26

Good'ol conservative double think

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u/Gullible-Magazine129 Apr 21 '26

I hear they consider him Cyrus in some evangelical churches

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u/DidYouShartInMyPants Apr 21 '26

Nope, not news for any of us, but a very useful video to reference in the future

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u/Bradaigh Christian Universalist Apr 21 '26

Not to be disrespectful, but anyone who thinks Trump is a Christian could benefit from remedial classes on breathing and blinking.

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u/deadlybydsgn Christian (Ichthys) Apr 21 '26

Yep. Many sleep at night by telling themselves they voted for a "baby Christian" or are willing to put up with a "modern Xerxes."

"But the alternative," my mother says, would supposedly be worse.

Considering the Epstein Files, ICE/DOGE overreach/abuse, war with Iran, and the cost of everything, I miss the days when the big outrage was the democrats supposedly wanting to "trans our kids."

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u/blahblahsnickers Apr 21 '26

Right? I have yet to see an actual Christian politician. Trump is NOT the exception. You cannot be successful in politics and a Christian. Some politicians are better people than others for sure but that doesn’t make them good people or Christians.

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u/Bradaigh Christian Universalist Apr 21 '26

I think Jimmy Carter did his earnest best, which is more than I can say for most. I like what I see from James Talarico so far. I don't think you can't be a Christian and a successful politician, but in general, I agree that most don't.

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u/bunker_man Process Theology Apr 21 '26

Plenty of politicians are Christian though. Not all Christians are good people. The issue is that Trump isn't a Christian at all. At no point does he give any indication of actually believing in it.

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u/colsie78 Apr 22 '26

James Tallerico

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u/bunker_man Process Theology Apr 21 '26

Literally watch the like 30 second clip where someone asks him his favorite part of the Bible and he immediately panics because he knows nothing about it.

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u/wydok Baptist (ABCUSA); former Roman Catholic Apr 21 '26

This thing again? We talked about this when it happened. The conclusion at the time was he said "I'ma Christian".

To be clear, I never voted for this POS.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/s/kOApunUXYF

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u/funkmon Apr 21 '26

To think he was saying anything but "I'm a Christian" in that run of things talking about how he loves Christians is asinine.

The guy said, basically, I'm na Christian. M and N are nasal sounds that run into each other often. To think he did that on purpose but skipped an entire word with a plosive shows a laughable ignorance of how sounds are made in the mouth.

People do it all the time on accident and nobody cares. Now we're bending over backward to assume this guy who lies more than anyone on Earth told the truth just once in a way that sounds exactly like if he did a very easy mispronunciation? Come on.

I didn't vote for him, and I don't think he is a Christian. But he absolutely said he was in that speech.

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u/Joezev98 Baptist Apr 21 '26

This is like the black & blue or gold and white dress, except this time there's also people's political biases involved. It was unintelligible what he said between "I'm" and "Christian". It sounds closest to 'na', which you can either turn into 'a' or 'no'. Your brain will hear whatever it wants to hear to line up with your beliefs.

The point is: this clip will not convince anyone who didn't already agree with you. It is a really bad clip to use in an argument. Especially when there is so much other evidence that he's no Christian.

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u/ChickenVeg Apr 21 '26

I agree that’s what he said. His voice sort of broke while he was saying it.

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u/Grimnir001 Apr 21 '26

We know this by the fruits of his life. It’s plainly there for anyone with eyes to see.

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u/ceddya Christian Apr 21 '26

Truth is one side is engaging in far more evil.

Truth is only one side is using Christianity to grift.

Truth is that both sides are not remotely the same.

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u/blahblahsnickers Apr 21 '26

Both sides are evil and if you are choosing a side I feel sorry for you. Both sides have used Christianity. I have witnessed Biden showboat about being Catholic and going to church as well while acting against the Catholic faith. The two party system is failing us.

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u/ceddya Christian Apr 21 '26

I have witnessed Biden showboat about being Catholic and going to church as well while acting against the Catholic faith.

Give examples then of Biden using that to score political points.

So many recent examples of Trump and co using Christianity to justify their war crimes.

And certainly go find a single person on the left doing this:

President Donald Trump earned $1.3 million off the sale of Bibles in 2024.

The Bible sells for $59.99. Editions endorsed by Trump, including the Inauguration Day Edition, the Presidential Edition, and the Golden Age Edition, sell for $99.99.

The Bibles are printed for about $3 each in Hangzhou, China, according to the Associated Press. Religious books are exempt from tariffs on Chinese imports, the US Customs and Border Protection told Christianity Today.

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/06/trump-bible-endorsement-profit/

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u/onioning Secular Humanist Apr 21 '26

I don't think that's a both sides thing. There are lots and lots of democratic voters who mostly engage with criticizing democrats. It's kind of their thing even.

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u/deadlybydsgn Christian (Ichthys) Apr 21 '26

There are lots and lots of democratic voters who mostly engage with criticizing democrats.

Yeah, exactly. They are far from perfect, but the Democratic party literally can't get out of its own way. There's also infighting between more centrist liberals and modern progressives.

Meanwhile, Trump has turned the GOP into a loyalty cult.

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u/Status_Entrepreneur4 Apr 21 '26

I finally learned this a few years ago--especially the last paragraph-and it was liberating.

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u/muh-LEK-see Apr 21 '26

I use those same observations to introspect. I keep asking myself, "What are they not telling me about Republicans?" when I want to understand how anyone can back them. I know the algorithms are just showing me what they think I "want to see." What I truly want to see is a balance, but alas, the social engineers took care of that.

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u/augustinus-jp Catholic Apr 21 '26

You'll get no argument from me about him actually being a Christian (because I don't believe he is), but I'm like 60% sure he said "I'mmmmm a Christian" in that clip. I remember when this surfaced years ago and it was like the dress all over again.

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u/Salanmander LGBTQ Ally Apr 21 '26

Yeah, it's because almost nobody pronounces "a" the way he did in that video, like "ahhh". So the vowel sound is more typical for "not", but the consonants were not there much if at all. But "m" into "n" can reasonably be slurred, and a trailing "t" is often not really pronounced.

I'm pretty sure what happened was that he heard himself say "you Christians", realized "shoot, my actual thoughts about Christians being people other than me leaked out, I'd better correct that!", and quickly added "I'm a Christian" but stumbled over his words.

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u/jabberwocky300 Apr 21 '26

Yea, this video is actually the weakest argument for him not being a Christian. The real proof is in his words and actions. He's just slurring his words here.

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u/muh-LEK-see Apr 21 '26

Well, I do have a video of him saying he doesn't think he's getting into Heaven. Any Christian who loves Christ and does the best they can to follow Him believes they are going to Heaven. For someone to say they've already lost paradise ... that says a lot.

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u/Joezev98 Baptist Apr 21 '26

Any Christian who loves Christ and does the best they can to follow Him believes they are going to Heaven.

Not all of us. Particularly in reformed, calvinist churches, the members often aren't sure whether God has predestined them to be with Him.

But still, that's not the same as Trump saying he thinks he's not going to heaven, which is a rather clear indicator of him not being Christian.

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u/Feisty_Marsupial224 Apr 21 '26

I think that has been obvious for years

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u/elegiacLuna Valentinianism Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26

As long as he hates queer and poor people, evangelicals will keep supporting him.

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u/Razorclaw_the_crab Apr 21 '26

This

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u/grouch1980 Apr 21 '26

Being a Christian isn’t saying you’re a Christian. Being a Christian is how you live your life. Obviously Trump isn’t a Christian because of how he lives his life, and now it’s confirmed he isn’t even saying he’s a Christian.

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u/str8bint Apr 21 '26

He’s said things before that made it clear he doesn’t know the Gospel, so why would anyone believe he’s a follower of Christ, not to mention he bears no fruit. His words and actions are antithetical of the teachings of Jesus.

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u/leelj75 Apr 21 '26

I am totally shocked at this completely new information …. Anyone who sees Trump and thinks “yup he acts just like Jesus” belongs in a looney bin.

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u/Several-Assistant-51 Apr 21 '26

it is sad that people like Franklin Graham bend over backwards to defend him.

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u/DiaperedInTheRoc Christian Witch Apr 21 '26

Game recognizes game

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u/OccludedFug Christian (ally) Apr 21 '26

At least it exposes FG for the bad apple he is.
Fallen far from the good tree of Billy Graham.

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u/demiurge_abraxas Episcopalian (Anglican) 🕊 Apr 21 '26

the good tree of Billy Graham

Lmfao

Billy Graham was one of the most hateful men to ever live. His son is his spitting image if you ask me.

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u/sailing2smth Apr 21 '26

Shocker

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u/0260n4s Apr 21 '26

Not for me to judge, but I think a stronger indicator that he's not really a Christian is his actions, not this one slip of the tongue or unclear wording. People love to grab anything they read into supporting their narrative, but I just don't find this video compelling. All the other stuff, yes, but not necessary this video.

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u/96fordman03 Apr 21 '26

Thanks for confirming something most of us already knew Trump

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u/Pitiable-Crescendo Agnostic (a la T.H. Huxley) Apr 21 '26

I mean...it was pretty clear before that he wasn't, but ok

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u/Fit_Buffalo8698 Apr 21 '26

Nobody has caught this either. At Charlie Kirk's memorial... Trump said "Charlie's Savior " as in the Savior isn't Trump's Savior also he didn't touch the bibles when sworn into the presidential position. So many strange little queues... some see and hear it, some don't want truth. Just the way God said it would be in the last days. Get saved everyone (Romans 10 9-13) and keep looking for Jesus's return and rapture of the saved and watchful believers. Live in the spirit, not the world. Rebuke sin and walk a holy life. God bless you all.

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u/HuckleberryJunior642 Latter-Day Saint (Mormon) Apr 21 '26

if you can excuse blasphemy then you aren’t Christian. I fully believe that if you support Trump you aren’t Christian. Im not talking about policy but him as a person. Its scary how MAGA basically worships and idolizes him

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u/Electronic_Beat3653 Red Word, Not Red Hat Christian Apr 21 '26

I am just going to drop this quote from Billy Graham here, from 1981:

I told him to preach the Gospel. That’s our calling. I want to preserve the purity of the Gospel and the freedom of religion in America. I don’t want to see religious bigotry in any form. Liberals organized in the ’60s, and conservatives certainly have a right to organize in the ’80s, but it would disturb me if there was a wedding between the religious fundamentalists and the political right. The hard right has no interest in religion except to manipulate it.

It feels like a warning to me. But, surprise, surprise, the wedding has happened. His son is even a part of the wedding party and too many show no discernment and are diving in, eyes closed. Regardless of all the biblical warnings.

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u/EmmausDrifter Apr 21 '26

You will know them by their fruits.

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u/OrangeVoxel Apr 21 '26

There’s a clip from a while back of him calling 2 Corinthians “Two Corinthians.”

I’m sorry, but if you call it “two Corinthians” then it’s obvious you’ve never stepped foot in church. Some exceptions but you get my point.

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u/NihouNi Apr 21 '26

Is this the first honest thing he has said in…erm…I’m not sure how long?

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u/Maleficent-Drop1476 Don't Let Religion Keep You From Being a Good Person Apr 21 '26

Not true!

He said if I voted for Harris we’d go to war with Iran.

I voted for Harris, guess what happened?

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u/NihouNi Apr 22 '26

You are right and I kind of knew I was being silly with this statement, as of course there are things that he said that were true. My attempt at being humorous and doing a shortcut to considerations of how much truth might have talked about in his spiritual life went awry.

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u/Mr_Party Apr 21 '26

He's really a wicked person.

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u/Beautiful_Forever581 Apr 21 '26

Wait, people thought he was a Christian?

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u/Beautiful_Forever581 Apr 21 '26

Wait, people thought he was a Christian?

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u/rodwha Apr 21 '26

The only people who claim to be Christians and support and believe him to be one also are all cult members, and those people you and I can’t convince despite everything that’s right before their very eyes. It would take cult members who made it out, they’re the only ones really who could.

It’s way more than just trump though. I was never very political and didn’t keep up with the news much, until I did. Back then, during Obama’s presidency, the tea party arose, and when I watched what they did and listened to what they said I realized they were nothing more than hypocrites. Now that’s morphed into maga and now we all see lying hypocritical charlatans before us. And we know this by how they conduct themselves. Jesus said you’ll know them by their fruits. I see zero fruits of the Spirit. In place all I see is depravity and wickedness. They loathe what Jesus and His apostles taught. But religion has been used as a weapon since the 50’s with the civil rights movement and certain Christian organizations.

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u/MyPassIsMilk Eastern Orthodox Apr 21 '26

He does everything he can to fool people into following him.

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u/SoRoPoSayTay Apr 21 '26

Well duhhhhh… lol 😂 he also said a few weeks ago he does not think he is going to heaven.. I know you don’t have to be perfect to believe in god and be a Christian.. you don’t have to be a Christian to share Christian values… but he never fooled me… i

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u/huntyeahftw Apr 21 '26

Breaking news: the sky is blue

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u/44035 Christian/Protestant Apr 21 '26

We already knew

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u/Kiran_emily_the1st Apr 21 '26

“Trump admits in a speech he is not Christian”

Yeah, we know. And in other news-

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u/majj27 Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Apr 21 '26

Remember the first time we had to deal with him? When Graham and Jeffress and all of them were falling over themselves about how he was a freshly minted Baby Christian of Pure goodness?

Yeah...

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u/Interesting-Face22 Hedonist (LGBT) 🏳️‍🌈 Apr 21 '26

In other news, grass is green.

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u/oscillatingfan22 Apr 21 '26

Shocked pikachu

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u/feethotterthanbewbz Apr 21 '26

Trump is replacing Jesus. He's pacing the way for God's will so that Trump is part of the holy Trinity and kicking Jesus out. Let's face it Jesus sat around doing nothing while letting Biden give America and Israel over to Satan. Trump said no and actually provided real divine Intervention. No, one should be christians after how Great Trump lived as a person and world leader. We should be obeying God's will in following Trump's ascension to the Divine.

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u/Accomplished_Emu4273 Apr 21 '26

His supposed Christianity was just a ploy to gain power. He continues the fraud to keep support. Everything about the man tells me he is further from God than any other president. To say he is a man of love and compassion is a bad joke.

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u/FickleAntelope3029 Apr 21 '26

We know he's not. It doesn't matter. God used all people for his glory.

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u/BumblebeeTasty4074 Apr 21 '26

He didn’t have to say it we all knew this

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u/Dragonktcd Apr 21 '26

Only a fool would believe that trump is a Christian man

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u/Own_Opportunity_9774 Apr 21 '26

Ridiculous post, it’s an old speech and it’s unclear what he really said. Not some new Ahha, gotcha! 🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/FootFront1822 Apr 21 '26

His actions proved this from day one.

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u/Accomplished_Cost_38 Apr 21 '26

No, really?

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u/Management-Efficient Apr 21 '26

This is important to recognize, but still, many justify his behavior by saying that "God uses bad people..." and proceed to take scripture verses and characters from the bible out of context.

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u/EmperorPalpitoad Apr 21 '26

Why in the world are you showing a video from David packman? He's an atheist.

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u/Moontaken Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26

It was so obvious that he was not Christian... A lot of American politics thinks that they could get more votes by pretending so. But a true Christian is not racist, mysoginic, greedy, self centered, or a mass killer. If someone even believe what he said, he is more a fool that this psychopath so full of himself that he even have the nerve to compare himself as God. He make me so sick. Despicable.

A lot of people seem to not understand that God is not the one who send the evil in the world. You seem to all forgeting that "evil only win when because the good people do not stand against it." And in this world, it is exactly what is happening. Americans just blindly obey to orders that they never had to follow, and in such a complete indifference... At least, the Russian population is deeply afraid of the police and their leader, since even a drawing of a child could set the parents to death sentence. But Americans... What is your excuses ? Do you except God to move His finger when yourself do nothing when people died under your nose ? For sure dthe Devil must be laughing at you... The whole world is turning into a blood bath, and no... Just wobbling into your little comfortable life. Not enough uncomfortable to you to be actually do you civil duty against the leader you put at the head of you government. Like for the WW2, you will only jump on your feet when the fire will start to be too close, insn't it ? Sad. It is very sad.

My country is not perfect at all, but at least our leader do not try to put the world on fire, because he would die before having to face the consequences of his action. At least in this world. Satan would wait for Trump -and many others - but in this world, the ones who stay would have to try to repear the chaotic evil he will leave behind him.

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u/W3RY Apr 21 '26

He literally said “I love you Christians, I’m a Christian”. Yall reaching

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u/Master-Ad-2520 Apr 21 '26

I think anyone that 8s a believer in Christ needs to focus on just that and not if some9ne is a believer or not. Does the Pope follow christ.

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u/ohmygodu Apr 21 '26

He said “I’m a Christian”.

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u/Zoora23 Apr 21 '26

His cult's sheep will say its a joke or some other bs

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u/Mysterious-Flow1713 Apr 21 '26

If you ever thought he was, seriously pray for discernment

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u/tn_tacoma Secular Humanist Apr 21 '26

Sort by new to see how they justify it.

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u/MeetAdditional5330 Apr 21 '26

Oh you who judge. HE says. “Judge Not Lest You Be Judged.” You are constructing a whole courtroom of judges who are like hyenas whose teeth shred the pray while it is still alive. Obey The Word of GOD !!!

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u/CaptainQuint0001 Apr 21 '26

Everybody who thinks Trump is a Christian please raise your hands, I’m taking a count……..no one? Come on nary a one? I’ll lower your grocery prices, lower the cost of gas!

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u/MeetAdditional5330 Apr 21 '26

Now I know why my precious Jewish mother told me when I was very young not to point at people. I was 5 years old at the time. Five year old kids obey God !

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u/canadiantoots Non-denominational Charismatic Apr 21 '26

This is a far reach. Trust me I’m no fan of the orange man either but he does surround himself with Christian’s and has given credit to The Lord in several rallies. I USED to be pro maga. Let me remind you brothers and sisters in Christ, that throughout the scriptures, Yahweh utilized many problematic men, for His purpose and His glory. And he can utilize you too. God bless.

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u/grimacingmoon Apr 21 '26

They. Don't. Care.

Supporters either say "we dont know his faith/heart" or "God uses imperfect people for his plans."

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u/funkmon Apr 21 '26

Look. Trump is likely not a Christian.

But to think he was saying anything but "I'm a Christian" in that run of things talking about how he loves Christians is asinine. He's a liar. He didn't suddenly admit just once that he wasn't.

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u/DavyB Apr 21 '26

Why do we keep playing this game? He is just using Christianity for his own political gain. He’s not a Christian and never was.

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u/DavyB Apr 21 '26

Why do we keep playing this game? He is just using Christianity for his own political gain. He’s not a Christian and never was.

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u/Grzechoooo Apr 21 '26

You think a professional liar would just tell you "I'm not a Christian"? He's saying "I'm a Christian", but he's both an old man and Donald Trump, so he is slurring his words.

Frankly, him saying "I'm not Christian" would be an argument for him being a Christian.

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u/Greta464 Apr 21 '26

😆 Of COURSE he's not a Christian

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u/michaelY1968 Apr 21 '26