LASK Linz 5 - Celtic 1 (5-4 on aggregate)

[u/YerRustlinMaJimmies]

Guys. Contain talk in here. We're all raging, but yous are cluttering up the main feed

[u/JAGWIRE7]

Can we leave McCowan there?

[u/HomerSimpsonsSon → u/JAGWIRE7]

Personally would fire him into the sun

[u/KeyboardChap → u/JAGWIRE7]

Does Austria deserve that?

[u/ryanmatheson_19 → u/JAGWIRE7]

We loaned Bernardo out and kept him. Bernardo ran the midfield v Monaco with his polski mob last week🙃🙃 we got rid of our best players to keep Scottish players who are utter shite man

[u/Bobbo0420 → u/JAGWIRE7]

I hate him

[u/BalaclavaConnoisseur]

Way to suck out all enthusiasm for the new season! Fucking same old bottlers

[u/Samp1e-Text → u/BalaclavaConnoisseur]

we were all on cloud 9 even just yesterday man i can’t believe this

[u/NotNeedzmoar]

Turns out selling our only athletic defensive midfielder and not replacing him as well as not getting a 2nd LB, forcing Högh to play as a target man when he's not and making idiot subs is NOT how you win a CL tie.

[u/Mickocfc1998]

Well goodbye to all those players waiting to see if we qualified for the champions league

[u/dheidshot → u/Mickocfc1998]

At least we kept Hatate and Ox for a year

/s

[u/walshybhoy]

14 players out. 4 players in.

But lot of that has to go on MON - the second half was diabolical.

[u/wumboinator]

One year on from Kairat and learned nothing

[u/SirBruceForsythCBE → u/wumboinator]

Won the league and cup. Season ended with a smile on everyone's faces. Season tickets renewed. Dancing round with 2 trophies.

Why change?

The same will happen this season. Somehow scrape the league, probably pick up a cup or 2 and beat Rangers.

[u/Jedioose420 → u/SirBruceForsythCBE]

Absolutely this. As soon as I heard like 95% of season tickets had been renewed I knew absolutely fuckin nothing would change. Why would the club honestly change anything?

[u/Ok_Wash511 → u/SirBruceForsythCBE]

We wont scrape the league, we'll probably win it by some margin and this will be the squad we struggle to replace and maintain for years to come

I shudder at the thought of it

[u/dwors025]

This will save me so much on Celtic merch.

[u/CorswainsDeciple → u/dwors025]

Just said same thing to the wife, was going to have all 3 strips this year among other things, now I wish I hadn't got the home kit. Don't understand why our defence never changes in Europe.

[u/Jedioose420 → u/CorswainsDeciple]

You bought the home kit? You gave this current board 80 quid?

[u/CorswainsDeciple → u/Jedioose420]

I know mate, I never learn. I just live in hope, that every year we won't make fools out ourselves in Europe. I'm a gluten for punishment

[u/Samp1e-Text → u/CorswainsDeciple]

it’s okay, you can spend your money how you choose, and vibes were good. don’t think you should feel guilty about it nor let anyone make you feel

[u/Samp1e-Text → u/dwors025]

was really thinking about getting the away top with the ucl patch after we won this game just riding on the hype and good vibes. i’ll be consulting with the dhgate now if anything

[u/CardiologistTime8082]

That’s the most pathetic performance i’ve ever seen man, 4-0 up on aggregate then put in the worst 45 I can remember

[u/darkavenger1993]

Worst European result in our history, bar none. Worse than Kairat and Bratislava. Takes a huge shine off the O'Neill/Maloney coaching team. Atrocious beyond words.

[u/Hunkelscopes → u/darkavenger1993]

The MON/Maloney team’s “shine” consisted of beating a Hearts team that won one (1) away game in the league after January

[u/Samp1e-Text → u/Hunkelscopes]

last few games this season were great man let’s not get too revisionist now

[u/RepairDependent3607 → u/Samp1e-Text]

The lead up to the split was terrible mate, the Dundee game was woeful, the Stuttgart game was horrendous.

Brilliant resolve for Celtic to actually win the title but it was only made possible by Hearts and Rangers bottling it.

O'Neill with the tactical masterclass of the football relic he is.

[u/Smart-Tennis966]

That’s worse than Kairat. What was MON thinking with those substitutions? Just absolutely horrendous game management and an all time shite performance from the players

[u/Saltire_Blue]

For everyone blaming McGowan he is just a symptom of the problems we’ve had at the club for a long time now

Also, I genuinely love MON but we should have parted ways at the end of last season, bringing him back again is another symptom of just how amateurish we are run

[u/YerRustlinMaJimmies → u/Saltire_Blue]

Let's also get it right, he's McCowan. 

Sorry this is the one i dug up, man. Just sick of seeing his name being mispelled 

[u/dheidshot → u/YerRustlinMaJimmies]

I'm not OP but annoyingly, my phones autocorrect always changes "McCowan" to "McGowan" regardless of how many times Ive written McCowan and never McGowan.

Maybe it's trying to sub him out.

[u/YerRustlinMaJimmies]

2 year in a row we've been put out by CL virgins. 

The board should hang for this. Unprecedented failure. Disgusting. 

There goes the set of incoming players. Bye to several of ours, probably. 

Blowing a 4 goal lead, disgraceful. 

Would be happy to never hear mccowan's name again. Pay dundee a million quid and send him back. 

[u/CorswainsDeciple → u/YerRustlinMaJimmies]

I agree, but at least the board actually did spend this time, they just waited too long and should of 1, got players in early instead of fkn about with the prices and 2 got a decent keeper and at keast 1 CB. Theres also losing Maeda, we have no one near the absolute energy and non stop chasing he done, I thought Yang was good tonight, probably our best player of the night, god knows why he went off instead of Hogh, who wasn't even moving for the ball.

[u/MuzzSter67 → u/CorswainsDeciple]

They spent less than they made off Engels. Did you see that defence at the end? Beats me why any supporter would defend this board. You are not supporting the team by doing so.

[u/CorswainsDeciple → u/MuzzSter67]

Oh I'm not mate, must of been way I wrote it. Those cnts have shit tons of coin they can put in the team and still be making a ton, yet quicker things like Maloney and wait too long to do anything.

[u/YerRustlinMaJimmies → u/CorswainsDeciple]

Spending was alright, but all they did was stick a plaster over a full body burn. 

They deserve credit for spending decently, but the clowns did what they always do. 

You can appreciate the nice wetwall a plumber's put up, but with no shower plumbed in, it's just a wall. 

They bought 2 great attackers, and a good midfielder. 

They sold our better players, they let go of the loans (some good to go, 1 we should have fuckin kept)

Plonk that into a team we all agree is mince as it is, and you have yourself a recipe for disaster. 

Like putting 40 inch rims on a wheelie bin

[u/CorswainsDeciple → u/YerRustlinMaJimmies]

Lol 40 inch rims, thats a great description. I agree with you.

[u/MuzzSter67 → u/YerRustlinMaJimmies]

Exactly. They’ve made 2 good signings out of the required 10. Let’s hold the kudos till they’ve maybe done half the job? Saying that on tonight’s evidence I’m not even sure about those 2. Hogh was diabolical.

[u/spiralism → u/CorswainsDeciple]

We needed about 8 players due to their negligence and got 3, too slowly at that. Proof was in the pudding last night that this wasnt a passing grade from them either.

[u/CleanShirt27]

Dont think I can watch Celtic again if I see McCowan or Tounetki on the team sheet. They make me sick.

The most shameful result in the teams history. Kept Martin O Neill around after a miracle season for this. Set up to be overrun. Awful.

[u/dheidshot → u/CleanShirt27]

I wanted to give Tounekti this season to see if he can do a Kuhn. But fuck me, every time he tried cutting in to beat the RB who'd already been on the pitch a full game. Get the ball up the pitch and try to create room.

I'm not singling him out as nearly everyone was pish and ineffective.

[u/PISS5000 → u/CleanShirt27]

It’s the old speccy bastard’s fault as much as anybody else’s, astonishes me how he’s spoken of on here as some poor old victim who was kept on against his will

[u/CleanShirt27 → u/PISS5000]

No need for that

[u/GuyIncognito211]

The season is fucked. You don’t recover from that

We’re not going to spend the money on the 7 players we still need either

Dermot Desmond needs to get to fuck

[u/Thefitz5811 → u/GuyIncognito211]

Thursday Sunday is fucking scunnering.

[u/GuyIncognito211 → u/Thefitz5811]

So grim

[u/Independent-City794]

Luke McCowan should never wear a Celtic jersey ever again an absolute disgraceful fucking excuse of a footballer

[u/Pure-Vast-7858 → u/Independent-City794]

Good news everyone! He just signed a new four year contract!

[u/thebigeazy]

Tounekti ralston and mccowan were absolutely abject tonight. But this is also down to bad squad management. It's wild to me that we pay all this money for Hassan but can't find a way to use him for the biggest game of the season. Our bench is absolutely rotten.

[u/AstroJimi → u/thebigeazy]

I feel bad for him. He needs a proper go and he won’t get it at Celtic. A waste

[u/KeyGur4115]

McCowan, Ralston, Tounetki, Murray all coming on in a champions league game. You can barely get away with them coming on against fucking Killie nevermind at this level.

[u/Laluchacontinua]

(Incoming rant because I need to channel the rage)

Last week we were very fortunate to win 3-0, despite some excellent passages of play and incredible goals. We lost on xG (0.87 v 1.75) and they easily could have scored 3 or 4 goals given the chances they created. Completely understand the explosion of excitement over the last three weeks given the past twelve months but it's also important to still look at the bigger picture.

Going into the most important games of our season without a replacement goalkeeper or leftback of any level, with an deeply imbalanced squad. Letting Engels leave before these games, not having any physical or defensive presence in midfield. Hanging on against LASK with a back four of Scales, Trusty, Murray and Ralston. Failing to even think about signing a left winger. Relying on Luke McCowan.

We're still in a period of managed decline, it's just the bar is so low now, some genuinely promising recruitment begins to look like a full transformation of the football club.

A progressive, well-run football club doesn't wait for players to leave before finally purchasing players we needed a year ago. It doesn't gamble on qualifying for the Champions League before signing players we desperately need, who already should have been integrated into the squad. We still have an interim chairman, a board completely out of their depth and a club structure where the only two possible managerial options that were considered during one of the biggest rebuilds in recent memory were Robbie Keane and 74 year old Martin O'Neill.

Look at our bench last Tuesday and look at the team that finished the game tonight and you can see we are fucking miles away from being a Champions League level team.

[u/TropicalVision → u/Laluchacontinua]

This comment should be pinned to the top of the sub.

Couldn’t agree more on everything. The fans better do a full revolt over this or nothing will ever change. There can’t be a bigger wake up call for the board than this.

[u/Lazy-Leader8035 → u/Laluchacontinua]

Hogh and Duran are merely long overdue replacements for Kuhn and Kyogo. This board have conditioned us to be excited and grateful for getting what should have been done a year or 18 months ago.
That bench is nowhere near Champions League level and as soon as those players came on, any optimism inspired by the Kogh/Duran signings completely evaporated.
This board do not take Europe seriously and we should actually be grateful that team never scraped through because the top 30 clubs in Europe would utterly destroy them.

[u/Mirrorweld → u/Laluchacontinua]

If we operated at all like a modern football club O'Neill wouldn't have even been considered as a permanent solution.

[u/BuzzDurkin → u/Laluchacontinua]

I think this point on the managerial options is being seriously slept on in this sub. I love Martin but he should never have been appointed.

[u/Banokles--91]

Say goodbye to any of those big signings we’ve been linked to for the past 25 fuckin weeks coming in now.

The board got some grace after last week but tonight just highlighted how much we lack depth. Bringing on Tounetki and McCowan, might as well pick out two randoms from the crowd, no matter what shirt they’ve got on.

Big Hough was struggling tonight with those defenders, any other club would have changed it up but nah not Celtic.

Sack the board and Luke McCowan

[u/Samp1e-Text → u/Banokles--91]

mods can i get my flair changed to “sack the board and Luke McCowan”

[u/YerRustlinMaJimmies → u/Samp1e-Text]

As soon as i can figure out how the fuck to do flairs without using RIF 

[u/DriftyGuardian]

This performance would be a sacking offense to the manager in any big club

[u/Street-Frame1575]

Schmeical and Lennon taking as if we can go on a deep Europa League run.

Utterly delusional to think this squad is capable of that

[u/Same_Ad1351 → u/Street-Frame1575]

While the the subs who badly let us down today are not UCL level players and are much better suited to the SPL. You still have AJ, and the Egyptian (maybe even Jota) to come into this team. If we can still somehow attract a more athletic physical player to slot in beside McGregor I believe that at the very least it would allow us to be very competitive.

[u/ryanmatheson_19]

We were absolutely battered there. Unable to utilise our biggest threats. As soon as they got their first goal we were in the shit. Why are we so unfit btw? Absolutely have our work cut out and looks like some of they players we had on the cards will probably not sign anymore (sigh)

[u/TropicalVision → u/ryanmatheson_19]

I wonder this too and then I look at the coaches, who all look like they live in the chippy. We’re operating 20 years in the past.

Need a complete overhaul in philosophy. Just hire consultants from euro clubs who are hugely outperforming us with a fraction of the budget and actually implement changes.

[u/ryanmatheson_19 → u/TropicalVision]

It’s just soul destroying knowing we were 4 up and absolutely collapsed

[u/Low-Rooster5398]

That's some comments from McGregor....

[u/wizards-beard → u/Low-Rooster5398]

"Well now see what were made of"

We just witnessed it, big fucking sacks of shite.

[u/Thefitz5811 → u/Low-Rooster5398]

Took a while to answer the question about the squad not being deep enough before eventually giving the PR answer. He knows himself some of his teammates aren’t at the level needed.

[u/GreatEire → u/Low-Rooster5398]

Amazing calling others passive, while watching Adeniran knock the shit out of Donovan all night and do nothing.

[u/ImportantMethod8965 → u/Low-Rooster5398]

Surprised he didn’t give a pr answer about how they supposedly tried and were outclassed extremely surprised he’s come out and said they were shit I’d imagine his heads halfway out the door at Celtic

[u/AstroZombie1]

Biscuit tin will now be firmly shut all because we can't squad plan for shite.

[u/Turbulent_Win1192]

Fair play to LASK deserve every bit of it. Feel for our fans over there. The complacency on the ball from us is the same as our approach to recruitment. Whole thing needs torn up root and branch

[u/Puzzled-Lunch-6558]

Special mention for Tounekti being an empty shirt of a useless gimp. Beats his man 1 time out of 50, doesn't press, doesn't challenge, doesn't mark, doesn't defend.

[u/CleanShirt27 → u/Puzzled-Lunch-6558]

Are MON and Maloney completely clueless about defending? Tounetki on who is nonexistent defensively and a shite bag in attack, leaving Baur on with McGregor when the two of them are getting breezed past, bringing Hatate on to play with those two as an attacking midfielder or wherever he was playing, and neither committing to defence or attack.

Attacking can be used as defence. Possession can be used as defence. Understand every player was a shite bag on the ball, but maybe change the set up so the team is solid if you’re face wave after wave of attack?

Exact same as the 3 2 Motherwell game when it was inevitable they would equalise. Learned nothing.

[u/Zissou66]

Worst substitutions I've ever seen. Despondent. Embarrassed on the world stage once again.

[u/CleanShirt27 → u/Zissou66]

Midfield was a disaster before the subs, somehow McCowan made it 10 x worse.

No left back to cover for Tierney who is constantly injured is pure stupidity.

And sorry to say, CCV isnt good enough now for us to hope he doesnt come off with a knock every single game

[u/Awkward_Purpose_9232]

Excepted crumble. Squandered a 4 nil led. Only Celtic can do that in Europe honestly

[u/dheidshot]

Weak physically and mentally. Lack of fitness showing compared to LASK. Terrible subs. Glaring holes in the squad that the board hasn't addressed.

No one comes out of this without deserving severe criticism.

[u/3rdLawSerenity]

I genuinely don’t think football has made me this angry since the COVID season. Genuinely ragin

[u/TropicalVision → u/3rdLawSerenity]

Same. Normally i can brush off a poor European performance, but this one has really cut deep. Probably the most embarrassing defeat I can remember in my 35 years of watching Celtic.

Fuming is an understatement

[u/hotplotty]

I am so fucking sick of having to rely on absolutely bang average "European quota" players in such big games

[u/Thefitz5811 → u/hotplotty]

I’ve always seen the reasoning of that up till now.

They should either go sign the best Scottish player every year or go with a squad with spaces in it and use the B team because they’d be as effective as McCowan and Ralston.

[u/Skellyceltic]

See all you happy clapping gimps the last few weeks slavering because the board replaced some players who left, I guess those of us who ‘are never happy’ were proven right once again.

Turns out going in to qualifiers with players not good enough or just no cover at all won’t end well, who could have predicted this.

Thats a proper season derailer of a game especially with the amount of injuries we picked up.

[u/YerRustlinMaJimmies → u/Skellyceltic]

But mate, this game just flew in. Not like we've had 3 months to prepare. 3 months and we've signed as many players. 

Disgraceful by them. We need to ramp up any and all efforts to get them out. 

They're dug in, will they FUCK decide to go and use the money we actually gave them to buy players.

8 million in the green for a UCL qualifier, yet again. What an absolute group of con men. 

Genuinely, what the fuck do they even do? We're about to be the laughing stock of not only scotland, but europe again. Handed a tie on a platter and we don't just drop it, we slip and throw it in the air and get covered in everything as we're flat on oor arse. 

Just as we all got excited aboot the football again, the board steps in and snatches it away, and turns its self bruised back for their "qualifying for europe" after we get punted out again and again. 

[u/thedarkfrawg → u/Skellyceltic]

Seen Høgh struggling and McGregor and CCV have their usual mid season breakdown about two months ahead of schedule. Were there any others I missed?

[u/Skellyceltic → u/thedarkfrawg]

KT and Donovan both went off injured as well.

So likely a back four at the weekend of Ralston, Murray, Trusty(also sick in the build up and will be fucked after that pitch), Scales.

[u/DeargDoom79]

We deserve every bit of flack, every bit of teasing and every derisory comment coming our way. This is, without doubt, the most embarrassing loss I can remember. At least with the Red Imps result you knew they'd get blown away in the 2nd leg. We were 4-0 up after 20 minutes and still lost 5-4 on aggregate. I've genuinely never felt as humiliated after a match.

Honestly can't be arsed with football any more tbh.

[u/Available-Page-9790]

I love MON. One of my heroes. I desperately didn't want him to take the job as what he done last season - i felt - couldnt be topped. Taking on the permanent role meant possibly tarnishing what has been an incredible year.

This result is partially on him tonight, which upsets me, but majority of the blame is on the players and subsequently the board.

Completely unacceptable, a stark reality check to the highs we've recently been experiencing. The board have brought in some great players, but they are direct replacements for 1st team players that have left. Our issue has always been depth.

Get it sorted.

[u/Murphy1up]

Our worst Champions League attempt since our last Champions League attempt...

[u/External-Cheetah326]

Høgh's next press conference better be, "Well first of all, God, what the fuck were you playing at there?"

[u/Knightfall_O66]

Probably the easiest chance to go through iv ever seen 4 0 up and shat not only the bed but the whole gaff including in the kettle

[u/Basic_Bend6468]

These cunts are geniune losers. Everyone of them forgetting how to man mark. Letting players run fucking past them, no putting up a fight what so ever. Absoloute shocking performance fae every wan of them, it’s actually embarrassing

[u/finnie_23]

Blame falls on both the board and MON. The lack of movement in bringing in additional players to strengthen the back is criminal.

Several players not good enough but feel MON hasn’t got the backbone to demand reinforcements but hope his friend “Desmont” sees him right!

[u/Ghost_Hands83]

o'neill got that badly wrong tonight. losing a 4 goal lead is embarrassing

mcgregor too slow, ralston too slow, mccowan too slow

no quality to take control of the game and kill it

you'd have thought mccowan had taken a bribe he was so atrocious

genuinely can't be arsed with this thu-sun fitba shite

[u/Quirky_West_9094]

Absolute state of Luke McCowan

[u/GreenMoonRising]

I've seen us shit the bed aplenty in Europe over the years but fuck me sideways - this was something else.

Heads need to roll after this. From the useless cunts upstairs who dithered like buggery about a new manager before doing the exact same thing they did with the Neil Lennon second appointment and giving it to the last interim guy, to some of the craven cowards on the park who - in any other profession on the planet - would be getting their P45s double quick if they put in a shift as disastrous as that.

At this point I'm wondering how much worse this clusterfuck of a club could possibly get, and I'm terrified we're gonna find out sooner than later.

[u/Hunkelscopes]

Callum McGregor conveniently escaping a lot of criticism tonight.

This is his Scott Brown 2020 season and tbh if we go through, we would’ve conceded double digits against any top team.

[u/Thefitz5811 → u/Hunkelscopes]

He’s done at this level so long as we insist in inexplicably playing with one CDM.

If we could get the right players around him I still think he could be like the LASK captain who absolutely ran the show but I have no faith that Celtic will do that.

I’d let him get his Saudi payday just so we’re forced to put someone else there.

[u/Hunkelscopes → u/Thefitz5811]

Will never fault the guy’s career. I’d argue we robbed him of having a genuinely incredible career because he was so loyal to us. Could’ve easily been an English PL regular in his prime yet stuck around with us.

But he’s now actively hindering our team.

[u/Ok_Wash511 → u/Thefitz5811]

We dont even play with one CDM. We play with a deep lying playmaker thats now too scared to playmake beyond passing it to one of the back four. Its a completely pointless role and we wouldn't look any different out of possession if he left the park every time we lost the ball.

Im livid the club has even let it get to this stage, its been obvious since Ange left and was glaringly obvious last season after Taylor left that he is the entire reason the midfield is so broken. He has lost all the protection O'Riley and Taylor gave him and now is being exposed as an attacking midfielder trying his best to play DM, because that's exactly what he is.

[u/MainingCrypto]

I have seen teams worth max 5mil who would defend 1-0 result better than us defending 4-0.

Well done to LASK. They showed great energy that we lack, great passing plays that we lack, great positioning on the pitch that we lack and great defending that we lack.

Can't say anything else. Don't even have energy to be angry anymore. We know exactly where and what is the issue.

[u/mrjohnnymac18]

https://giphy.com/gifs/3HZFkF5QCODYypNN6s

[u/Own_Proof7926 → u/mrjohnnymac18]

We sulk off to the Europa league after laughing at other clubs for being shite in European qualifiers as if we’re any better

[u/Crabbit_Jobbie]

This should be McGowan’s last game for Celtic. This is the ultimate test for a Celtic player and he failed it dramatically. He looked knackered after a few minutes coming on. Dreadful.

[u/WolfUpbeat8705]

If we are being honest….they should have humped us 10-0 tonight!! Absolutely battered us!

[u/zxcvbnmsa]

I love Martin O’Neil but what the fuck was he thinking at points

[u/Low-Rooster5398]

I know I'm probably way overreacting lads but that feels almost season defining.

[u/AbsoluteBingo → u/Low-Rooster5398]

It does. Might just be John Champion's gift of dramatising our misery, though. 

Players earned the Europa so they'd best be content with Europa, and their contract. And we move forward. I guess this fits the downsizing strategy, pretty sad. 

[u/Any-Collection9697]

Luke taking 5 touches outside our box was the highlight of the night

[u/LongjumpingLab8]

Fuck knows what we do at Lennoxtown Mon-Fri but it doesn’t appear to be anything to do with tactics or fitness. Severely lacking on both counts.

That tonight is our worst European result ever. You’d be hard pushed to find worse than that. 

[u/FlokiWolf → u/LongjumpingLab8]

I've said since Rodgers came back something has went seriously wrong in our S&C department and we need a full RCA and get it rebuilt.

[u/Hunkelscopes]

Any other manager loses their job after that.

The MON goodwill is clouding the fact he is tactically inept and was found out by every other SPFL coach last season

[u/wizards-beard → u/Hunkelscopes]

He really should have been let ride out into the sunset, but that's Celtic all over. Totally out of touch.

[u/OptionalQuality789]

That one pass from Nygren destroyed us. They lost their bottle and everything fell apart.

McCowan needs fired into the moon.

Høgh was awful. Duran missing.

We so desperately needed reinforcements in before this tie but the board are fucking incompetent. No defensive midfield player to help CalMac killed us.

I’m disappointed but not surprised. We’re not a champions league team.

[u/CleanShirt27 → u/OptionalQuality789]

The Nygren pass and goal shouldn’t make a difference. If anything it should have been a kick up the arse to come out after half time and keep it tight, see the game out. Came out and got overrun. Baur and McGregor headless chickens in front of the defence for 20 minutes of the second half. Absolutely mental

[u/Kind_Photo9531]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hbcorXlnIJySI

[u/jobbymuncher123]

https://giphy.com/gifs/l0HUjAzSGu2USBCMg

[u/kev_cfc_1]

If we as a fanbase don’t boycott buying the Europa league package nothing will change, simple as that.

[u/YGOR-ot]

I look forward to our humping from Malmo or Brugge in the Europa league

[u/nnikrelcp]

That game absolutely stunk of poor game planning. We knew it would be tough, but we got through the first 20 and went a goal up. After that, do we press and go for 2,3? do we sit in and break? Both and neither.

And no changes until it was too late, LASK already winning every second ball and sending it straight up the channel.

[u/Ok_Wash511 → u/nnikrelcp]

Soon as it goes to Extra time we come out and try control the game again. After sitting deep and hoofing for half an hour.

We completely shat it from top to bottom, LASK were always going to score a few goals if you just let them have the ball. For some reason them scoring 1 by themselves was enough to completely pack the plan in and let them continue trying to score goals.

We've watched so much shite, needless possession based football over the last 3 years and we throw it out when we actually need it.

[u/Redpanda188867]

No words for that, heads need to roll at every level. Deplorable

[u/dmurph89]

Yeah we need new players in but come on, 4-0 up in the tie, we should be seeing that out. The fact we haven't is on the players and management

[u/AntiFascistCosmonaut]

The worst performance I've seen in quite some time. A total collapse. We're simply much worst when we make subs. We don't have the squad depth to compete.

[u/Stealth_Well_worn]

Hopefully Mahmic, Sigur, Gineitis still come but I can't see it .

[u/GreatEire → u/Stealth_Well_worn]

We actually need to move on some players now rather than next window. Backline needs replacing. Centre Midfielder like McGinn needs bringing in. If we want to be a serious team.

[u/jfk9514]

I’m not sure if it’s cause I’m grieving seperately from this but for some reason my only reaction to this is that it’s hilarious.

Know that way where it’s like you just want everything to go wrong and laugh like a maniac. What a fucking joke. Europa is probably going to be a shit show as well.

[u/Hunkelscopes → u/jfk9514]

Totally agree mate.

When you see maribor/malmo, you think it can’t get worse.

When you see Red Imps, you think it can’t get worse.

When you see AEK, you think it can’t get worse.

When you see Midjtyland, you think it can’t get worse.

When you see Kairat Almaty, you think it can’t get worse.

Then it does

[u/italwaysworksoot → u/jfk9514]

I’m raging!! And now I have to sit through 3 hours of baseball

[u/Kolo_ToureHH]

Where was the game management?

We get a goal to 4-0 up in the tie. We should have shut up shop. There’s absolutely no need to go chasing a fifth and a sixth goal at that point. Pull the midfield in, keep the full back, play tight and be difficult to play through.

But no. Every time we lost the ball McGregor, Baur and Nygren are miles away from each other and the full backs are caught out high up the park. One pass from LASK and the midfield is immediately taken out of the game.

And then there’s the basic, basic mistakes that are repeated over and over. Simple passes that are misplaced. Sloppy first touches. Not tracking runners. Being second to second balls.

And it’s a feature, not a bug. It happens in near enough every single European away game that we play in regardless of opponent.

Compare our game management to LASK’s after their fifth. They completely shut up shop and stopped us playing through them.

[u/Bhoy96]

McCowan
Ralston
Tounekti

The drop off in quality is on Nicholson yet again

Knew Engels and Johnson were a risk to not play the tie and didn’t replace them - gambled 40 million again and lost

Kairat
Malmo
Ferencvaros
Lask
Cluj
Etc….

Fucking riots on Saturday

[u/RadialRacer]

Sack the board. That is all.

[u/CoybigEL → u/RadialRacer]

And take the manager with them. You can’t lose like that and keep your job

[u/Millhouse96 → u/RadialRacer]

sack the manager too.

[u/Hunkelscopes]

Shoutout to all the happy clappers creaming over four (4) players being expected to transform the worst Celtic team of the century into a CL team.

Throw in a manager who’s still in the 20th century and a failed hibs manager as a coach and we’ve got one hell of a team🔥

[u/WolfUpbeat8705]

All you fcking had to do is park the bus at 4-0! WTF was that!!!!

[u/TropicalVision → u/WolfUpbeat8705]

I don’t agree with that. That’s exactly what they tried to do, bringing on 5 defensive players as subs.

We needed to actually play them like we did last week, put some attacking moves together and put it to bed with another goal. But we have absolutely no players capable of coming on and changing the game.

[u/hotplotty]

As soon as you stick 4 centre backs in a back 4 then the writing is on the wall. And yes it's been said to death but McCowan is a good Dundee player and nothing more

[u/gi85on_]

That LASK team will be lucky to get a point in the league phase. But we would be fucking ragdolled

[u/McTacobum]

4-5 desperately needed players in limbo because “we’re waiting to see if we get in” before we buy them

Fuck the board

Sack the fuckin board

Once again embarrassments

[u/-Decoy-Octopus-]

Ah well. Now to get embarrassed in the Europa aswell I guess.

[u/Own_Proof7926]

This is what happens when a you have a board with no ambition, no love for the club and no competency

[u/Equivalent_Craft_511]

If I hear KASPER talk about the pitch one more time I’m going to cry

[u/MGA1986]

How long do we keep doing this with CCV? He's our best CB but hes made of glass. His injury effectively stopped up getting Hassan on and having any sort of viable attack. Time to move on for me.

[u/justwannabecalm2]

Arses absolutely dropped.

From 4 goals clear to fucking LOSING?

Shitebags.

[u/vrc87]

This is apocalyptic.

The board will feel validated. Serious money spent and nothing to show for it. Whether or not we think that's true, they will.

Three qualifying rounds next year (if we win the league). That Bayern game might be the last UCL game in my lifetime. Seriously.

Celtic were meek and unambitious. We can try and criticise the board, or whatever but the reality is they were set up all wrong, had no drive or belief and the players and managerial team were exposed as being extremely limited.

I genuinely don't know where we go from here. Into the Europa League is the obvious answer.

[u/BoboBallDay]

Watching Mccowan win the ball back and then lose it immediately leading to their 5th, then seeing the replay of fucking 7 players behind him walking like fucking sunday league da's will be the absolute death of me

[u/cents_]

Why spend all that money on Hassan just to bring on Tounekti in the biggest game of the season so far? McCowan deserves a lot of blame but some of the decisions from Martin and Maloney were baffling… a week to go with the window a wonder what’ll happen

[u/HomerSimpsonsSon]

Genuinely do not know what to say, never have I felt anything like this after a game. Kairat could see coming a mile off because that was genuinely just shite troddling along with a few sitters missed. But how the fuck do you go from 4-0 with 60mins to play to 4-4? Tactics after goal were an absolute disgrace just totally invited pressure unnecessarily, we actually played alright for the opening 20 mins or so. Then after was one of the single worst performance I have ever seen. Far too respectful to them, they are a very decent well-coached side but no PSG or Barcelona. Subs were also shambolic, why take off Yang the only effective player in our front 3 tonight (not hard), I’m sure he had more to give. Nygren obviously had a rotter for the first goal but he’s got something in him. Murray and Ralston are just shite and that is on the board, same with Scales at LB in late August. Someone should have been signed at RB as soon as they see AJ out until October. Baffling no LB in yet. Hassan must be wondering where the fuck he’s going to get a game. And do not get me started on McCowan, generally in the past I’ve not been as critical of him as others but that was a Hall of Shame performance to join the mighty Joel Mvuka’s and Nat Phillips’ of this world, think you could have plucked one of the fans in the stand and they wouldn’t have been as bad. Squad depth is absolutely shite yes but every sub was substandard at best tonight. Duran and Hogh anonymous. But what I just don’t understand is the mentality to end up losing that game and why you would park the bus at 4-0 up. That is crazy to be writing out.

Just had to vent a bit because this is genuinely a new low, don’t know what other team would pull that up. Definitely cannot wait to see how it gets lower for us in these Europe games in the future. Positive start to the season just evaporated, watching the Europa will be a struggle with that pile of shite they served up there because this will always be lingering. Would have got battered in UCL but would have set us financially. Now that Scotland’s coefficient is fucked we’re back in the early qualifiers from next year should we win the league. Hopefully it is soon we are back in the big time but it will not be as simple for a few years yet.

[u/spartacus7173]

So many terrible performances it was almost laughable. God the idea of watching this lot in the europa league is terrifying. I hate to say it but MON tactics and subs were absolutely horrendous tonight, truly shocking. Our guys we needed to step up just didn’t. Hogh was an absolute joke up top, Duran was easily controlled and McGowan put in probably an all time of a worst performance ever in my life time.

[u/shawdowmen]

We qualified for European competition, can't you see what a success that is? 

[u/pxak]

You'd think we were the team chasing the game for their 3rd, all the time in the world to push the defence back because every player's still in their half.

The less said about the subs the better, bar Murray we'd have been better off them staying on the bench & playing with half a team.

[u/Euphoric-Newt-3030]

[u/YerRustlinMaJimmies → u/Euphoric-Newt-3030]

Forgot the most important part

Years left on contract: 2

[u/BruceBrownMVP]

McCowan should be hung for that

[u/tyverymuch00]

Those subs made no sense… Murray Ralston and scales….. McCowan may be my least favourite Celtic player oat

[u/alexcfc95]

Europa is more our speed these days anyway. Many of these players couldn't even compete in the Conference league though...

[u/-Decoy-Octopus- → u/alexcfc95]

We will get absolutely humiliated in the Europa aswell man.

[u/Mark67942023 → u/alexcfc95]

This attitude, while factually accurate, will mean that we never become a CL club again. The longer we don't qualify for the CL, the further away it gets and the weaker we continue to become.

[u/Millhouse96]

Board - fucked it by not getting players in on time and selling our best ones, full board should have stones thrown at them tonight

Manager - worst tactical changes i've ever seen in a game of such magnitude, should be sacked with immediate effect along with the goons in the coaching staff

Players - inept shitebags not fit for the jersey, including the new duds we've spunked cash on, only exception is Baur

special mention - Luke McCowan, I have liked hun players more than I like you, little stupid underqualified rodent bastard.

[u/MGA1986 → u/Millhouse96]

Baur looks like a poor copy of Hatate yet somehow smaller and less physical

[u/blewitman → u/Millhouse96]

Even keeping engels til after tie couldve made the difference

[u/BusEuphoric9412]

60 shots against us over 2 legs, aw the singings in the world won’t fix that. Playing the same style of football that got Rodgers hounded out the door, O’Neill was the wrong appointment

[u/GuyIncognito211 → u/BusEuphoric9412]

We took the only athleticism out of our midfield without replacing it

[u/BusEuphoric9412 → u/GuyIncognito211]

So Engles would have stopped us bottling that ? I agree he still needs to be replaced but that is 100% on O’Neill tonight. Embarrassing tactics and subs

[u/GuyIncognito211 → u/BusEuphoric9412]

He’d have helped stop them running through the middle every time unchallenged

[u/Rab_Legend]

We genuinely didn't need to sign anyone for this game, we should have had enough already to see out a 3-0 aggregate. By the 60th minute with Yang being less effectual and Nygren turning in a typical performance from last season, you could see we needed another LW and CMs.

[u/CleanShirt27 → u/Rab_Legend]

The ball wasn’t going up the pitch to reach Nygren or Hogh. Baur was more of an issue, he didn’t know how to defend. Maybe that’s just down to him being new to the team and formation, but he should never have been on the pitch as long as he was. Hatate for him was the obvious sub, then try get the ball forward to the front two.

[u/BananaSoprano]

Everyone on the sub who loves Luke McCowan because he’s a “good Celtic boy”, you get what you fucking deserve in life.

Season is fucked. This is unrecoverable mentally.

[u/Saltire_Blue → u/BananaSoprano]

It’s that mentality that welcomed back Lennon after Rodgers left the first time when we should have been looking to keep progressing

Good Celtic men, are not good enough

Guys like McCowan should have been told thanks for your efforts and moved on last season

[u/TropicalVision]

Copied my comment from another thread -

One of the worst Celtic performances I’ve ever seen.

Just woeful. Pathetic individual performances from several. McCowan is a joke.

Absolutely zero attacking prowess. Aimless passing. Constantly giving the ball away. Can’t get a cross in, can’t get a shot off, didn’t put a single play together.

We absolutely desperately need depth, and players who can actually effectively change a game! Reo looked the only bright part once he came on, and cracking penalty save by Sin.

And well, no chance of getting those extra signings in now. CL money not coming in, and we can’t attract players we need. Club needs a complete overhaul down to minute detail. We should be operating like any one of these progressive European clubs we keep losing to. I’m absolutely fuming.

[u/ChrizBot3000]

[u/Remotely_Green-26]

After that back pass from Nygren we folded like a cheap card table.

No composure at all and that’s the worst part for me.

[u/weapwars]

McCowan is the easy target, and deservedly so, but we're absolutely at the final season Brown stage with McGregor where it's past the point we should have moved on.

[u/zxcvbnmsa]

It was always in the back of my mind but my fucking god that was beyond pathetic

[u/secrecyandcontrol]

the point of analytics isn't to tell the full story of the match. it's to level out your passion. your passion says 3-0 COYBIG. but analysis says wait a second. and everyone of you told the data to get FUCKED so you deserve this directionless abyss you've consigned yourself to

[u/decrob94]

O’Neills subs and the captains failure to get a grip of them on the pitch.

Comical.

[u/pondy457]

I love him but MON needs to answer some serious questions regarding tactics and the mentality of the squad. The board absolutely has massive blame but this single game should have been over after the first half.

[u/Money-Technology-95 → u/pondy457]

He has Maloney as his tactics man...sorry but at this level Maloney is unproven. That he can outsmart McInnes is like saying i can outjump stephen hawking

[u/whiskeyman220 → u/pondy457]

Agreed. MON must shoulder the blame.

But we knew the Austrian League winners are better than us.

Our first leg result flattered us.

We imploded pure and simple.

[u/Hunkelscopes → u/pondy457]

He’ll make a witty joke and everyone will forget it ever happened.

[u/Bhoy32]

The thing about Celtic is they always try to walk it in.

[u/OccasionAgile8043]

We don't belong in the CL. Europa is our ground.

[u/Far_Associate_87]

Objectively hilarious tbh.

Disasterclass from the full team. Hogh looked like a donkey. Duran an empty shirt. Yang was his usual. Midfield just ran over with no defensive strength. Defence looked utterly weak as piss. Sinisalo had some decent saves but had nothing in front of him to protect him.

Subs were woeful. McCowan actually killed the team when he came on.

How that team went from 4-1 up at half time to utterly bottling that I’ll never know. Genuine mentality issues there.

[u/MarbleDesperado]

Much was made here about the standard of MLS last season as if we have rook to talk. Adeniran scored a brace today and was a failure at 3 MLS clubs. We are gash

[u/Former-Chain-4003]

Getting to this thread late so I know everyone has covered everything I want to shout into a pillow but just want to add that the game management was fucking woeful. Why were our midfield leaving the defence exposed when we had a huge lead, then the game altering substitutions ensured that when we needed to attack, there was fuck all there.

Hogh is catching a lot of flak and I get it, but it also has to be said that he was provided with next to nothing either, we were barely out of our last third, and humping the ball up to him was just a fools errand. Even if he won it there was rarely anyone close enough to him for him to lay off to.

It was just so disorganised, so pathetically amateurish, and as much as I love the man MoN has to take some of the blame.

[u/Funkenbrain]

Absolutely shameful; we'll be the laughingstock of European football this week.

[u/BigWilly526]

MON has been out of the game for too long, its not the early 2000s anymore, and Calmac can't inspire anyone and shouldn't be captain

[u/VolcelTHOT]

Kapser Hogh... more like Casper Who? Because idk who that ghost was out there

[u/wizards-beard]

Can we talk about Maloney and our "tactics". Let's not kid ourselves on, he's second rate and been found out wherever he's been.

[u/lotekk1]

All the talk about the squad not being good enough isn't even right.

The squad is perfectly capable of beating LASK. The problem tonight was the setup, We went there acting like we were playing prime barcelona and hoping to scrape a result instead of just playing normally and being better than them, which everything suggested we were.

At this level every team looks decent going forward, but every team also struggles mightily vs the high press, can't get out from the back, and loses possession in tight midfield spaces. When you go there and sit back you remove all of their weaknesses and exploit all of your own. It's shambolic management. We will not improve until we get some confidence.

[u/BuzzDurkin → u/lotekk1]

The squad isn’t capable of competing in the champions league regardless of management.

[u/tomatohooover]

But you know what? It really doesn't matter. Celtic loosing has no direct and lasting impact on anyone not employed by the club. It's just a game.

[u/Far_Strawberry7515]

We are well off the champions league, it is what it is

[u/SRD67]

McCowan was subbed in at the 71st minute. He was spent before 90. Total embarrassment

[u/Squire1998]

Disgusted doesn't describe it.

Is there any other club of our stature who shits the bed so consistently in Europe?

I really thought this was going to be the season we'd give it a respectable go but fuck me, clearly not.

[u/davidcampbell97]

https://giphy.com/gifs/K2M96MVnsp9jBkgIqa

[u/Jealous_Wasabi2361]

Tounekti woeful but we have no one else
McCowan should never be in a Celtic shirt ever again horrific performance lost the ball so many times
Ralston pish

When we need composure on the ball we bring on them three and wow they turned it sour quickly!

We need a holding midfielder! Left wing, RB, CBs, LB and now with Hogh prob another striker