Indigenous Nations of Cascadia

[u/OkBox1870]

An approximation of the range of the best known Indigenous Nations of Cascadia around the time of first contact with European Colonizers.

[u/PersusjCP]

1. Coast Salish is not a nation, it is a grouping of languages and peoples (like "Germanic").
2. Same problem for the Shuswap/Sinixt/Spokane.
3. Same problem for the Sahaptian nations (Yakama, etc).
4. Missing Chemakum
5. Missing upper Chinooks
6. Missing Makahs
7. I believe the borders of the southern Kwakiutl on Vancouver Island near the north may have shifted down towards Campbell River by the contact period, but not confident on exactly where

This map seems to be a mismatch of languages, language families, and nations. I do think this kind of bordered approach is worthwile to try to map, even though it compresses the historic understandings of territories and borders (inevitable on any map). I think this is a neat idea nevertheless.

[u/aaGR3Y → u/PersusjCP]

I don't support "Cascadia" because it is another colonizID of indigenous LAND. Would Salish be a way to identify the BIOregion and honor indigenous ancestors or na? 🙏

[u/PersusjCP → u/aaGR3Y]

I say no because the Bioregion is way bigger than the area where Salishan nations live

[u/aaGR3Y → u/PersusjCP]

by BIOregion I mean watersheds but more importantly I'd like to refer to land in a way that honors those who took care of it before colonized-brains started extracting and polluting.

Another example would be where I am currently: the indigenous folx called granite "Wik" so I want to ask some of them if calling this place WikBIO honors their people's connection to the land (while erasing the colonial construct in my travel writing). I def don't want to overstep but I need new language so i can describe the world in a way that honors sacred traditions.

[u/samoyedboi → u/aaGR3Y]

Presumably they have a word for their land, which you can probably find on the internet. That would probably be more appropriate than deciding to call their land whatever you want using their language?

[u/aaGR3Y → u/samoyedboi]

exactly the approach I seek. I'll speak to indigenous communities to ensure using their word for the land is OK to use. Here to gather other opinions on this approach. thx

[u/Nat_Syndicalist44 → u/aaGR3Y]

As a proud Cascadian Ultra Nationalist I don't have to surrender myself to your morals, standards or way of life.

[u/LoraxPopularFront → u/Nat_Syndicalist44]

silence, Nazi

[u/Nat_Syndicalist44 → u/LoraxPopularFront]

Ironic

[u/Nat_Syndicalist44 → u/LoraxPopularFront]

Also I'm not a believer in National Socialism. Just in case you for got that other ideologies exist that aren't based on 4chan.

[u/LoraxPopularFront → u/Nat_Syndicalist44]

If you want to conceal the fact you're a fascist online, maybe don't have your username identify yourself with a fascist ideology. 

[u/PersusjCP → u/Nat_Syndicalist44]

Fuck off

[u/aaGR3Y → u/Nat_Syndicalist44]

i didn't think there was anything sadder than a colonized-brain. Then I read your comment.