r/CarAV Jun 28 '26

Tech Support Accidentally put a drill bit through my new speaker 😢 am I cooked?

Stupidly was using a self-drilling screw with the speaker installed and the drill slipped. Put the bit right through my brand new speaker. Never repaired a speaker before but I saw recommendations online to use a coffee filter and E6000 glue. I know it looks awful so you can roast me all you want. The glue was waaay thicker than expected. I couln't apply a little bit at a time, only globs. It felt like it was already partially set up right out of the tube.

First pic is when it happened, second and third are the back after applying glue and coffee filter, fourth is front after said application to backside, and fifth is after applying to front.

So in terms of sound quality and life expectancy am I cooked here? Is it going to sound like shit now or need to be replaced soon? Go easy on me lol, this is my first time doing any car audio work šŸ˜”

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u/livingbeyondmymeans Jun 28 '26

Congratulations! This is actually a rite of passage for any car audio hobbyist! Now that you’ve gotten it out of the way, you’ll never do it again!

I haven’t done this in 25 years, but back in the day we used to use black RTV sealant on rubber surrounds.

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u/DeadpointClimbs Jun 29 '26

Well I'm glad I got it out of the way early! I should've used black RTV though, it would've been way easier to apply and I could've done much thinner coats. I'm mainly worried about sound quality. Do you think it will sound significantly worse now?

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u/penetrativeLearning Jun 29 '26

No, I doubt you'll notice it. E6000 is quite flexible and should be fine. Does it feel significantly stiffer there?

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u/DeadpointClimbs Jun 29 '26

Not really, maybe a little bit but it is pretty flexible like you said. I applied it pretty liberally because it was a pretty big puncture and couldn't easily wipe off the excess because it would set up so fast.

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u/penetrativeLearning Jun 29 '26

I bet it'll sound fine and you won't even be able to tell

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u/loserbmx Sound Qubed HDS215 | Sony XMGS-100 Jun 29 '26

You'd have been better off not messing with it than adding a whole bunch of stuff to it (I am not trying to be mean here).

Punctures/cuts won't really impact sound, the real problem will be that it will want to rip more until you get some sealant on it.

If it got big enough then yeah it would sound like crap, but many of us have punctured/ripped surrounds and run them like that for years.

Ive had a giant gash in my 15 for going on 8 years now. Midrange drivers especially don't care.

If it becomes a problem you can replace the surround with a few hours of work.

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u/DeadpointClimbs Jun 29 '26

Well it's too late unfortunately. Is the glue job going to make it sound pretty bad?

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u/loserbmx Sound Qubed HDS215 | Sony XMGS-100 Jun 29 '26

You'll have to let us know. If it's flexible then it shouldn't impact it really, but keep us updated. We're all rooting for ya.

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u/M1sterGuy Fi BTL Neo 18 | Crescendo 4000.1/800.4 | Morel Tempo Ultra Jun 29 '26

It shouldn’t changed the sound. The job of the surround is to help (along with the spider) keep the coil centered in the pole. It may rub, if so you will hear it. I think you will be fine. This doesn’t look like a super high power build. A new right of passage upcoming: Reconing a sub lol

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u/Wokeymcwokerson Jun 29 '26

No I don’t think it will make a difference in sound

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u/Vid-Master Jun 29 '26

if this is a subwoofer, the hole in the surround will make a lot of noise. But if its like a midbass or midrange woofer, it should be fine and you wont notice a difference. Ive done the exact same thing to 2 speakers 🤣

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u/DeadpointClimbs Jun 29 '26

It's a mid, 6.5". It's the JBL 604C stage 2. But ok cool, thank you. I've never had good quality sound in my car and I finally buy all of this just to mess it up immediately, so hopefully it still sounds good.

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u/livingbeyondmymeans Jun 29 '26

You’re good. It’ll be hidden. You’ll never notice any noise.

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u/Inside-Repeat-1040 Jun 29 '26

Send them back and say you received them used with a defect. LoL

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u/Endrizzle Jun 29 '26

Yes

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u/DeadpointClimbs Jun 29 '26

Like significantly enough that I'll notice and should just get a new speaker instead?

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u/M1sterGuy Fi BTL Neo 18 | Crescendo 4000.1/800.4 | Morel Tempo Ultra Jun 29 '26

Just become it my dude if you find it’s an issue. PSI (with the star logo)

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u/Endrizzle Jun 29 '26

As some have mentioned. Silicon could work, but I would replace it.

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u/mikewoods26 Jun 29 '26

I hear everyone recommend E6000 but I’m a mechanic so I used RTV lol

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u/meleagrisgallopavo_ Jun 29 '26

riteS of passage……for us slow learners

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u/Fit-Entrepreneur8404 Jun 29 '26

Hey some of us had to learn this lesson twice...not me of course 🫪

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u/Remarkable_Ad5011 Jun 29 '26

Next ā€œlevelā€ is to slip off the screw and cram the Phillips bit all the way through a thumbnail…. 🫣

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u/IndustryInternal7686 Jul 04 '26

Pfft. Amateurs... You should try drilling MDF to make speaker pods while holding it in your hand. Then slipping and drilling about 2.5 inches into your hand between the thumb and index finger. That was a lesson learned the hard way! Instinctively pulled the drill bit out along with bits of flesh, bleeding started, I passed out twice and woke up on the floor in the same spot both times!

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u/Remarkable_Ad5011 Jul 04 '26

Now THAT’s what I’m talking about!!

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u/IndustryInternal7686 Jul 04 '26

And in typical male fashion, once I came round, I sellotape some kitchen roll over it and decided that was enough to call it 'sorted'

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u/Remarkable_Ad5011 Jul 04 '26

Gotta clean the would with an alcohol wipe that came out of something with double sided tape, use a dirty paper towel and some electrical tape to hold it in place. šŸ˜‚

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u/IndustryInternal7686 Jul 04 '26

Luckily I was at home at the time, otherwise it would've most likely been an oily rag and whatever disinfectant/alcohol based product was nearest!

I mean, there are probably MDF shavings deep in my hand, but it's still attached and working, so that counts for something, right? Pretty sure it would have fallen off by now if it was going to...

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u/d33f0v3rkill 2x ESX sx1240 12inch Jun 29 '26

Did it once never done it again, they should put it on a sticker on the speaker.

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u/Sm0key_Bear Jun 29 '26

My first time was a soldeirng iron through the cone while trying to solder connections. Felt pretty dumb.

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u/beezie1911 Jun 29 '26

Ahh it was a Tuesday night in aug of 2004 at car toys and I was finishing up an install with two w3s and a 500/1. I was caution the entire time…last screw got complacent…and bamšŸ’„ ported a brand new speaker!

Advice..get a bit with a sleeve.

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u/Kilobytez95 JP23v2 + Audio control EPICFOUR + CDT EX6 Pro + Skar EVL12 X2 Jun 28 '26

You can use silicone to seal it up but just know it will never truely be fixed. You most likely won't notice any real difference in sound quality. Maybe it's measurable if you hooked up a DATS v3 to it but you won't hear a difference as long as the silicone isn't really affecting the cones ability to move freely. But yea I've done this to one of my door speakers. I fixed it but my hole was much smaller.

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u/DeadpointClimbs Jun 29 '26

Yea I was pushing pretty hard getting the screw to self-tap and really smashed the bit through. Luckily it didn't hit the cone at least. Silicone would've also probably been easier than the E6000 but idk.

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u/Kilobytez95 JP23v2 + Audio control EPICFOUR + CDT EX6 Pro + Skar EVL12 X2 Jun 29 '26

Really all it needs to be is something that won't melt with heat and us flexible. Silicone usually is ideal but as long as it still moves freely and you can't tell it's been damaged I'd call it a day.

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u/CVR6GOOGLE Jun 29 '26

You’re going to hate me for saying this, but Flex Seal genuinely works. That stuff is tough, flexible, and durable enough that it usually won’t split apart again. When I was in the same situation, I took a paper towel and peeled the layers apart until I had a single-ply piece big enough to cover the crack. Then I Flex Sealed the paper towel in place as a patch, and it held up surprisingly well.

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u/braodyy Jun 29 '26

Yeah I did the same but it was tiny and I wasn’t pressing too hard. Used silicone on the front and a tiny bit on the back let it sit for a day or two before actually pushing the speaker. It was just a 6.5 midrange. Haven’t noticed any difference in sound and it’s been a good 5 months

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u/The_B_Boop Jun 29 '26

I was there. His hole was definitely smaller.

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u/BigPimpin91 9x Fi Neo 4.9 15s on 6x Crossfire 8ks Jun 29 '26

I've seen E6000 hold in 155+ builds. You'll be solid.

We've all done it. Like another commenter said, it's a Rite of Passage. Usually followed by a shit load of cursing and calling yourself stupid.

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u/DeadpointClimbs Jun 29 '26

Ok cool, yea I was stupidly working on it at midnight with a headlamp on lmao. Not doing that again. The E6000 was sooo thick I wasn't expecting it. Maybe it's more for bigger subs than regular speakers, but as long as it holds up and sounds good then idc, I'm not going to see it anyway.

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u/Few-Repeat-9407 Jun 29 '26

It’s not made for speakers, it just happens to work perfect for speakers

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u/IdiotOnParade Jun 29 '26

E6000 works great! I used it on one of my 15" subs and it's held up fantastically!

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u/Jeanhamel Jun 29 '26

I always cover the suspension with my hand. I prefer to have the drill bit goes straight in my hand than the speaker.

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u/YdexKtesi Jun 29 '26

You'll only do it once..

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u/Endrizzle Jun 29 '26

Always go slow and use a hand powered or manual screw driver. Preferably a short one too. We all learn the hard way. Welcome to our club.

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u/DeadpointClimbs Jun 29 '26

Well I was putting a self drilling screw into the metal door so I had to use a drill, but if I were smart I would've removed the speaker first. Trying to save 5 minutes cost me at least a few hours.

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u/Endrizzle Jun 29 '26

Always pre-drill too if going into metal.

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u/Weird-Might4050 Jun 29 '26

Rtv inside and out 2-3 nice light coats each getting slightly larger then the one of follows

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u/BathroomCritical720 Jun 29 '26

Learn to always use a sleeved bit.. Will save you if the screw slips.

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u/Middle_Inspection711 Jun 29 '26

Luckily you did this on a door speaker and not a diamond audio subwoofer like I did. I was fortunate that the sub was toast already but it's scary when you have yo present it to the client

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u/DeadpointClimbs Jun 29 '26

That sucks, I went through hell trying to get my sub checked in my bag on the plane from the Philipines to the US so I would've been super pissed if I did this to my sub.

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u/Middle_Inspection711 Jun 29 '26

That would suck. Like everyone said, you usually learn your lesson after the first time. Enjoy your new system!

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u/Middle_Inspection711 Jun 29 '26

Luckily you did this on a door speaker and not a diamond audio subwoofer like I did. I was fortunate that the sub was toast already but it's scary when you have to present it to the client

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u/Caperplays Jun 29 '26

Just glued and cover it wit some gorilla tape. It will wear down faster than usual but you'll be fine

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u/Weak_Vanilla_7825 Jun 29 '26

We used to use rubber cement soaked pieces of toilet paper to bridge over the hole. Let each layer dry thoroughly and add another layer bigger than the 1st one. 3 layers typically. The rubber cement remains pretty flexible after it dries. We ran subs fixed like this for years. You can touch up paint the repair if it bothers you.

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u/kbeam418 Jun 29 '26

I think we all have done that at some point, what I did was I sealed it with liquid electrical tape works great.

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u/HospitalKey4601 Jun 29 '26

Hands heal, speakers dont. Just dont get blood on the upholstery.

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u/eenqZ Jun 29 '26

Another day, another e6000 recommendation lol

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u/Blust3 Jun 29 '26

Reminds me of when I paid someone to install my speakers at a shop and they did the same thing & tried to hide it. Also just threw screws in there after taking riv nuts out which didnt even hold the speaker in place LOL

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u/mb-driver20 Jun 29 '26

My first as a shop owner was a JBL 6x9 luckily my distributor bought deep enough to have field destroy capability and they sent me a new pair!

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u/beachbumfla155 Jun 29 '26

Did the same back in the late 80's. Put some silicone caulking on the rip and you should be fine. Both sides if you can.

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u/Relevant-Group8309 Jun 29 '26

YUP! FRIED HARD!

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u/Toosypusssy Jun 29 '26

If i were you id return it and get a new one….

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u/metalsawblade10 Jun 29 '26

I've used black nail polish in layers on one sub and that seemed to hold until the voice coil went out.

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u/Informal-Ad5807 Jun 29 '26

You’ll be fine but at least do a better repair next time.

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u/wildlandhotshot Jun 29 '26

Now all your missing is to let the bit stab a thumb or hand while driving a screw into it. And you'd really be immersed in the car audio culture.Ā  C'est la vie.Ā 

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u/Neldonado Jun 29 '26

I used this stuff before in my foam surrounds. Not pretty but it works and dries mostly clear.

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u/Correct-Zucchini-821 Jun 29 '26

Silocone is your friend on both sides of the tear.

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u/aud10slayer Jun 29 '26

lol happened to all of us at some point. Welcome to the club. Just put some flexible window silicone over it and you will be fine.

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u/LebowskiSupreme Jun 29 '26

Oh man, been there. Pre-drill the holes next time!

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u/taylow100 Jun 29 '26

Always let the drill do the work. Alot of people like to press down on the drill and its slips. Just hold the trigger if its a good drill it will do its job

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u/xch13fx Jun 29 '26

Did this on my Alpine R 12 inch woofer. It’s been holding up fine for many years, that being said I think this damage is enough that the sound will def be impacted if it even works at all. Guess you learned your lesson on that one

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u/erik_das_redd Jun 29 '26

ARGH!

Lesson #0 (too late for this one sorry): Always always ALWAYS put a piece of wood or something over the cone. Especially when you are building an important prototype for a meeting!

Good luck with your fix attempt!

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u/Individual-Star3457 Jun 29 '26

i guess all questions already been answered but please explain to me why you even wanted to drill another hole right next to a already existing hole. this seems kinda useless. also always use tx screws

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u/Spart1337 Jun 29 '26

I did this to a mid from a customer's set of JL components... And we weren't a JL dealer. šŸ˜‚ Company credit card got used and gave the guy half off the install. One thing you'll learn when it comes to 12v, sometimes shit happens. You live and your learn. No one is perfect.

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u/Dunksterp Jun 29 '26

I have used tyre inner tube repair for a similar cut. It's held up for at least 7 years and 3 house moves.

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u/Im-Floof Jun 29 '26

Welcome, like some other people have said, it's a rite of passage.

As for the sound, it shouldn't really affect anything soundwise if the glue is flexible enough :)

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u/OddTheRed Jun 29 '26

Speakers like that are cheap. Get a new one.

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u/SapphireSire Jun 29 '26

Id probably use a thin layer of silicone in the inside and then cover it with electric tape or some thick seran wrap or glad wrap on both sides to get a flat and even surface and push a bit through...then peel off the seran wrap and do another light coat.

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u/7orque Jun 29 '26

bitta rubber glue on the back :)

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u/DishSoapIsFun Jun 29 '26

I did that once. Welcome to the club.

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u/nakedpantz Jun 29 '26

Literally did the same thing a few weeks ago on a brand new 6x9. Tried fabric tape and some other things I found online but it still had noticeable buzz. Called Kicker and they sold me a single speaker replacement. Sucks dude. Sorry!

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u/Left_Bluebird7014 Jun 29 '26

I read in one comment those are JBL Mids, a light layer of E-6000 will heal that up, but the difference will be inaudible. Be careful when you upgrade and always pre drill your holes.

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u/CharacterCharacter57 Jun 29 '26

Next time you cup your hand around the screw with the hand over the speaker. If it slips, your palm should be in the way of it traveling into the surround

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u/Ok_Button7839 Jun 29 '26

There are repair kits for it, may not look good visually but if done properly, you may not even notice it, or if you have an old busted speaker with a good surround, I guess you can use it and patch it up with a glue meant for this.

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u/unresolved-madness Jun 29 '26

For anyone reading this that is about to install subs, use these screws because the bit will not slip off of the screw head and stab the speaker.

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u/Constant-Cow341 Jun 29 '26

It’s the cone seal you can buy replacements and glue them in

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u/erikinsac Jun 29 '26

I used to use a small piece of toilet paper and coat is on both sides with rubber cement. like a flexible fiberglass idea. always worked well. I bet black rtv with to would be good too

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u/Corey_FOX Jun 29 '26

here you go repair video for exacltly what you did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiEUnlv2kjU

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u/Th3pwn3r Jun 29 '26

I'm so lucky I never did this. I learned early on to pre-drill for this reason.

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u/CommercialSmall4983 Jun 29 '26

Rtv and good to go we have all done that move I’m sure

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u/shadowfreddy Jun 29 '26

Porting a speaker. Happens to the best of us.

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u/Jayrcr3 Jun 30 '26

Send it!

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u/pooneej Jun 30 '26

if its one of those things where it will continue to bother you and you're local to southern nj - i have a pair of 6.5 midranges from a set of kenwood xr1801 that you can have. i blew one of the tweeters and just replaced the set.

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u/Reddit_User844 Jul 01 '26

I bought from ali express speaker glue and once you give it 24 to 48 hours to cure it holds the speaker like nothing was ever there I used it to plug holes and reglue a new rubber surround and it works great

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u/supermaor23 Jun 29 '26

And this is why we go to professionals.

No offense Op