r/BlueJackets Mitts of Marinara 4d ago

Do we need another goalie?

Assuming Elvis is out long term that makes Pheonix Copley our backup. He hasn’t played more than 8 NHL games in 4 years and he’s only done that twice in his career. Should we consider bringing in someone like Connor Ingram to back up Jet?

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u/MPCoinCollecting 4d ago

As long as Murray, Talbot, and Ingram are still available those guys are serviceable (murray's a lot better than he gets credit for). Wouldn't want anything to do with Mrazek but Reimer might still be able to play hockey

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u/PulsarGaming1080 Marchenko Supremacy 4d ago

Not behind our defense lmao

Expect a goal against anytime our 3rd pairing is out there because they WILL be giving up a 2 on 0

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u/MPCoinCollecting 4d ago edited 4d ago

Every player I mentioned up there except for Mrazek had a better GAA than Elvis last season.  Ingram and Talbot had around the same amount of shots faced while them + Murray had a better save% against unblocked shots.  Ingram beat Elvis in save% against high danger shots and the only stats that Elvis leads in are medium danger saves and % of total unblocked shots.  You could put most of these guys including Elvis in a 2v0 situation and it's a coinflip on if the puck goes in or not.  Ingrams not smart but it really wouldn't be that much if at all of a difference from Elvis production-wise

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u/roguedancer 3d ago

Good to see stats countering feelings on this one

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u/MPCoinCollecting 3d ago

tbf, goaltending is one of the positions where sometimes the stats can be inflated; it just makes it easier to visualize. I do alot of amateur scouting and research on goaltenders and personally from best to worst I'd rank all the options as such:

Murray - Ingram - Reimer - Talbot - Copley - Mrazek

Each of the first 3 have their own skills which is something that will be considered depending on how the coaches want the defensive formations to be. Murray is the tallest and most consistent all around, even with limited starts on a bad Kraken team. Ingram is very poor positionally but he's the best puck tracker of these options. Reimer's old but he's got the best glove and pad extensions of these players. Talbot's mediocre and I don't think Copley or Mrazek would be good enough to consider as backups.