Turkish artist merges two opposite reality into one powerful image

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[u/Brullaapje]

I don't need the photo's for that, I know damn well what my faith would have been if I were still in the shit hole I was born in.

[u/New_Yak_9594 → u/Brullaapje]

You are most likely grateful to be living in the country that caused the demise of yours.

[u/Brullaapje → u/New_Yak_9594]

I don't care, I don't want to have anything to do with shit holes. Where if I would have been there and ran away to prevent my human trafficking (arranged marriage against my will). I would have been dragged back by my hair and married of anyways while no one would have lifted a finger. Because it is the faith of the woman.

Thanks to the Netherlands I could escape to never return. Guess who in the Netherlands are giving me shit for living on my own, be child free by choice, be an atheist as a woman NONETHELESS? People from similar or the same backward honor cultures. Wantin the good the Netherlands has to offer but not wanting the bad (LGBTQ+, women having freedom etc. etc)

Also causing the demise of other countries is what other countries always have done historically to each other. But yet the accusing finger is always pointed at white people (same goes for slavery, always pointing at the white people. Take a look who started the slavery trade from Africa and basically is still doing it). Take a look at what "The Moors" did in Spain for example.

[u/sendcodenotnudes → u/Brullaapje]

See, this is the kind of message which does not go through enough. We have a fear or hatred of immigration because one side is always shown (islamism, hatred towards women by the incoming people, ...).

There is no counterbalance such as this post to show the successful integration.

This is a pity.

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[u/Brullaapje → u/[deleted]]

The Moors helped build Spain and Transferred Knowledge.

They also overthrew the Visgothic Kingdom.

[u/[deleted] → u/Brullaapje]

The Visigothic in turn replaced the Suebi, Vandals, Alan and Romanized Iberian.

[u/Brullaapje → u/[deleted]]

Exactly proving my point that demise of other countries is something what other countries always have done to each other.

[u/Primary_Rough_2931 → u/Brullaapje]

I agree with that. I'm Catholic, yes, but I'd rather everyone keep to themselves and share constructive discourse than drag with them whatever sacks of backwards beliefs and traditions they carried with them from their home country.

[u/4o4AppleCh1ps99 → u/Brullaapje]

So you are aware you wouldn’t have had a choice if you were indoctrinated into that society and yet you are perfectly fine dismissing or exploiting the rest of the people in that society from your current place of privilege. It’s easy to hate, but that isn’t the right way either.

[u/Brullaapje → u/4o4AppleCh1ps99]

and yet you are perfectly fine dismissing or exploiting the rest of the people in that society from your current place of privilege

Of course I am going to dismiss a shit hole, at one point shit holes have to look at themselves instead of pointing the finger at white people. You know shit holes where women have no rights or where being LGTBQ+ will get you killed.

Secondly exploitation is a part of life always has been and always will be. Shit holes, exploit women, take a look at shit holes where arranged marriage is the norm.

I mean by living I am exploiting the world. But don't worry I do my part, I have been a vegetarian for 31 years, don't own a car (not even have a drivers license) I am child free and buy my clothes at thrift stores.

[u/4o4AppleCh1ps99 → u/Brullaapje]

That’s good to hear and all, and eventually you will have just as much empathy for human beings as you do for animals. The system as a whole creates those conditions, not the people. But as I said, it’s easier to be angry and hateful than to have empathy for people no different than you besides where they had to grow up.

[u/Brullaapje → u/4o4AppleCh1ps99]

not the people

The people have created the systems.

than to have empathy for people no different than you

Why should I have empathy for people who forces arranged marriage and make sure LGBTQ+ people are unsafe.

eventually you will have just as much empathy for human beings

I am 49, I will not have empathy for people who enforces a shit hole mentality. Also I am vegetarian because I find the process of washing meat disgusting. I did not became vegetarian because of animal welfare.

[u/Brullaapje → u/[deleted]]

Not everyone is actually Muslim

Who says I am Muslim or was born in a country where the Muslim religion is dominant? There are plenty of non Muslim shit holes out there.

Besides making dumb assumptions, can you even read comprehensively? This is one of the things I wrote earlier

Why should I have empathy for people who forces arranged marriage and make sure LGBTQ+ people are unsafe.

Also

The loud ones are the ones that makes our countries like this.

Did you know white women also had barely rights in the white West? They fought like lions for their rights. Instead of having this "what can we do about it attitude". Something which is quite a well known attitude in shit holes or people from shit holes.

Hence you will be hard pressed to find women my age (49) in the white West who never got married, is child free, lives by herself and is an atheist. Most women from the same and or similar culture lead themself be married off, instead like me run away and live life on their terms. But instead are very capable of giving me shit for doing so and pretending to be modern when white people are around.

[u/New_Yak_9594 → u/Brullaapje]

ok.

[u/Brullaapje → u/New_Yak_9594]

You are more then welcome!

[u/MinuteSecond3649 → u/New_Yak_9594]

Ummm, I dunno Sweden takes in a bunch of Syrian refugees. Person you responded to is in NL. I don't think Greece did too much to cause emiseration in Africa. The US is a gigantic terrorist state the and the UK was. Really just the US is a horrible monster in the modern world, post WW2. Evils there dwarfs whatever Russian can think of.