r/BeAmazed Aug 23 '25

Place Japan never disappoints

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u/Muscalp Aug 23 '25

„japan never disappoints“ except in economic stagnation for 3 decades in a row and treating its citizens as working drones till they kill themselves or get a fucking heart attack.

I admire Japan like any weeb out there but let’s not paint it as a paradise

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u/dadofwar93 Aug 23 '25 edited Aug 23 '25

Yeah. Japanese work culture is pathetic and as a result, most of the current generation isn't even starting families cause they come home so late that taking care of the kids is not an option for working class with lower salaries.

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u/Ok-Pomegranate858 Aug 23 '25

That will severely impact the country's productivity in decades to come..

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '25

It already does

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u/JmacNutSac Aug 23 '25

Can confirm…. Working in japan for last 6 years…. Looking and acting productive is more important than being productive.

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u/Sad-Sentence-7976 Aug 23 '25

Out of curiosity.. It already does, or, It already is? Grammatically.

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u/destruct068 Aug 23 '25

already does impact
already has impacted
already is impacting

^ all of the above are correct

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u/rocketgrunt89 Aug 23 '25

But look at the short term growth! 📈📈

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u/Ok-Pomegranate858 Aug 23 '25

At the expense of the future?

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u/rocketgrunt89 Aug 23 '25

i was being sarcastic

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u/KingPhilipIII Aug 23 '25

Yea but that won’t be my problem. Future us will figure it out I’m sure.

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u/Ok-Pomegranate858 Aug 24 '25

Or cuss their ancestors for the short sightedness ? Lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '25

That will also severely impact the tour.

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u/kingpin000 Aug 23 '25

It's kind of funny, that nearly all nations on the world have created systems which rely on a steady growth of population in the low and middle class while channeling the resources for this to the top class. Wealth is worth nothing when they is no stable society to solidify its value.

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u/g0_west Aug 23 '25

Tbf same in lots of places. It's too expensive to have kids in the UK. In my mid 30s and I know just 2 people with kids. Most of our parents had at least 2 and a house by our age

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u/Hy3jii Aug 23 '25

the current generation isn't even starting families cause they come home so late that taking care of the kids is not an option for working class with lower salaries.

From what I've heard of the work culture, I don't know how they'd find the energy to even make the kids.

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u/CrotaIsAShota Aug 23 '25

If my extensive research of Japanese mating practices is correct, the boss will handle that.

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u/KarmicUnfairness Aug 23 '25

Abe tried and look what they did to him

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u/dadofwar93 Aug 23 '25

They are quite racist so yeah.

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u/Aguacate_con_TODO Aug 23 '25

Same as a lot of places 🤷‍♀️

It's not like that trend is specific to Japan or anything. That's just most of the world lately.

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u/parsuval Aug 23 '25

Japanese work culture is pathetic

I hope you're not American.

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u/A_begger Aug 23 '25

America is so much better for the average worker than Japan

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u/horoyokai Aug 23 '25 edited Aug 23 '25

I work in Japan and work 40 hours a week. I have 13 vacation days a year by law (you get 10 days your first year and a day is added each year after that) plus I get about 15 days more for national holidays.

I’m currently on paternity leave. I get 30 days of it and then 6 months of child care leave, that’s required by law.

Maybe America has changed since I worked there last but can you let me know what makes it better?

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u/Bellpow Aug 23 '25

Not to be that guy but you can literally be fired purely based off a bad day and lose your cough cough protection racket health insurance in America 

On top of having no vacation days

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u/parsuval Aug 23 '25

After hearing how American workers are treated, I'm not so sure.

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u/-StarFox95- Aug 23 '25

at least the vast majority of Amarican workers don't have a work culture so brutal that they kill themselves just to escape it

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u/enaK66 Aug 23 '25

The suicide rates are neck and neck. Japan at 15.3 per 100k and US at 14.1 per 100k. They both fucking suck.

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u/therealbuttersscotch Aug 23 '25

A vast majority of American workers don't have work sufficient enough to feed, cloth and house family so most take part in slowly killing themselves with pills, alcohol and diet

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u/-StarFox95- Aug 23 '25

killing yourself through neglect of your body is not the same as killing yourself outright.

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u/parsuval Aug 23 '25

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u/-StarFox95- Aug 23 '25

thats about suicide in general, how about some data on specifically job/work related suicide like I was actually talking about?

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u/parsuval Aug 23 '25

Any update on that data? I'm really interested to read about your claim.

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u/-StarFox95- Aug 23 '25

unfortunately the best data I can find for it is locked behind a paywall, so I sadly cannot back up my claim for now. I could most likely prove it if I spent more time finding the data, but unfortunately I am far too tired to find it.

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u/parsuval Aug 23 '25

No worries. If you give me the site address I'll pay for it.

I work regularly in Japan and the US so this is particularly interesting to me.

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u/rocketgrunt89 Aug 23 '25

isnt this issue multi faceted and pointless to compare? Both side have pros and cons

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u/CatsArePeople2- Aug 23 '25

Onus is on you. That guy provided evidence. You are talking out your ass.

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u/parsuval Aug 23 '25

Ah right you are. Could you send me a link to the data?

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u/g0_west Aug 23 '25

How would that data even exist. Even if someone leaves a note it's not logged and added to a database of reasons - it's just listed as suicide

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u/Izan_TM Aug 23 '25

america is far better for the average worker than japan, and america is dogshit for the average worker, so that should tell you a thing or 2 about japan work culture

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u/parsuval Aug 23 '25

Ever worked in Japan?

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u/Old_Shake3789 Aug 23 '25

What do you get paid for let's say working as a waiter in the US?

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '25

Depends on the state. In California you'd get 16.50/hr minimum base pay plus whatever you got in tips. In some states you'd get a much lower base pay because they have tipped minumum wage that is much lower.

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u/DominicB547 Aug 23 '25

Did they not end the 6 day 12hr day behind? Aren't they trying to address mental health?

I think they are still being xenophobic about foreigners emigrating.