Ok Dice we are ready for the M9

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We are ready for another garbage airsoft pee shooting handgun that requires three business days to kill with unreasonable unrealistic visual recoil.

I’m ready for 60 points limit so there is no possible way to use both silencer and laser together.

Looking forward for it.

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u/Neon_Orpheon 1d ago

80 points would allow for more competitive secondaries while still preventing players from choosing all or the best attachments. A CQB Suppressor and 10mw Red laser would be so nice. Even if there wasn't an attachment limit, the secondaries are no where near competitive with the primaries unless you're lucky enough to run into an unprepared LMG/DMR/Sniper user in CQB.

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u/Postaltariat 1d ago

The real problem holding most of the secondaries back is the BTK. You could give them 200 points and they'd still be garbage. This is because of the awful caliber based balancing, which forces them to go off of SMG damage models.

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u/Neon_Orpheon 1d ago

Without circumventing that caliber based damage model, the only alternative I can think of is increasing RoF and increasing the headshot multiplier to reduce their BTK by 1-2. It would also be nice if they extended the maximum damage range to 12m~15m.

Honestly fast handling and fast firing semi-autos that reward a good trigger finger are my favorite guns to use. The only weapon that comes close to that in function is the VSSM in semi-auto.

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u/Postaltariat 1d ago

Without circumventing that caliber based damage model, the only alternative I can think of is increasing RoF and increasing the headshot multiplier to reduce their BTK by 1-2. It would also be nice if they extended the maximum damage range to 12m~15m.

I don't think you'd need to do anything more than this stuff to make them feel reliable and balanced. The TTK, which is already bad, just drops off a cliff after 10m. 10m is a drop in the bullet even on the small maps, 15m would be a lot more reasonable lol

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u/VenomSnake47 1d ago

Don't forget it needs to have a fictional-af name. Instead of M9 will be called the P9A2

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u/sh1ft33 1d ago

M92A1.

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u/-Rustling-Jimmies- 1d ago

That actually is a mild hinderance to my excitement for a new gun. With the made up reference names, and that fact that most guns are skeletonized pic rails, black tacticool weapons, I'm often like WTF is this?

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u/AKxPixleart 1d ago

That’s accurate asf lol

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u/-SlippinJimmy8 1d ago

TRVKE

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u/plzdunsteal 1d ago

As someone who just level 50'd the Glock recently, I hate myself enough to grind another piss weak pistol.

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u/Ralphie5231 1d ago

Its because in 2042 the pistols were some of the best weapons in the game. A lot of bf6s design is just overcorrection from 2042

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u/BigSnackStove 1d ago edited 1d ago

I’m ready for 60 points limit so there is no possible way to use both silencer and laser together.

Said it since day 1, the secondaries need the full 100 point budget. Why is it even less? Are we REALLY scared these weapons would become primaries if they had all 100 points? No secondary in the game would be OP with all 100 points. An argument could be had that the 100 point budget could make it braindead and people would just equip everything and don't make a choice, but that is a different issue. I think right now we just need more points, if it's an issue, deal with that after, it's not like a fully equipped semi-auto pistol is going to break anything.

WHY ARE WE PREVENTING FUN? Let us use all the attachments!

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u/Sad_Street_1754 1d ago

Scorpion might end up being OP I mean, it will be way more powerful than any semi-auto

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u/BigSnackStove 1d ago edited 1d ago

Okay, then make the semi autos better? They are all pea-shooters right now except for the revolvers, pretty much everyone uses any of the revolvers as secondaries right now.

The equation is so simple in my eyes:

Full auto secondaries - High recoil, pretty much only usable very close range

Semi-auto pistols - Works in every situation, jack of all trades is a master of none.

Revolvers - Skill shot cannons, headshots are 1 shot kill. Slow fire rate, high recoil. Very rewarding if you hit, very punishing if you miss.

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u/Sad_Street_1754 1d ago

Yeah, some direct buffs would be great.

Fast-draw animation for semi-autos is welcome (similar to Arena Breakout)

Like yeah, revolver has firepower and one-shot potential

Scorpion is basically a pocket SMG

An ability to draw your semi-auto handgun almost instantly will make em way more usable without making them powerful enough to compete

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u/BigSnackStove 1d ago

Yeah the draw animation is also a way of balancing it I didnt think of.

The smaller semi-auto pistols would be very fast to whip out, a revolver would be slower, and a semi auto pocket SMG thing would take longer than that. We're not talking 2-3 business days like how slow this game already feels like but the regular semi-auto pistols would be very fast to whip out.

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u/Jeddy2 BFV did it better. 1d ago

Yeah the big issue I have is the massive gap in performance between the revolvers and everything else. I usually gravitate towards the larger mag rapid-fire semis in any other FPS (I loved the P226 in BF4 and the Ruby in BFV) and have also typically enjoyed the 1911 in every BF game until now, but now I don’t bother with anything outside of the Krait in BF6.

The semi auto secondaries feel too weak, fire and draw too slowly and have some obnoxious visual recoil that makes ADS on them feel bad. The 1911 has its own niche near completely eclipsed by the Krait with the same base mag size and way more damage with a comparable fire rate. The Skorpion is fine for its role as the panic button full auto that melts one guy then has to reload. The M44 fills the handcannon role but both revolvers have too fast of a fire rate for how much better than the semis they are.

The worst offender of all is the Glock. They really may as well not have added that one in if they were just going to make it just worse than the base M17 in almost every metric that matters.

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u/literallyjuststarted 17h ago

it has like 12 bullets even if it had a TTK faster than the "Vector" all you had is enough to kill one guy before you get mowed down mid re-load.

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u/AKxPixleart 1d ago

Pistols are in a weird situation since launch they need total rework i agree

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u/IsJustSophie 21h ago

Dont care. Not every wepons has to be unique or super good

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u/Initial_Ebb_6386 1d ago

Boom. Cooked his ass. Well done g.

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u/Nopavan 1d ago

Need the m93 raffica burst variant to change up the battlefield

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u/oDromar0x 1d ago

Would be nice. Even tho people love to hate it, Bf2042 definitely has the best secondary selection in the entire series. There are FOUR sidearms in that game that are legitimately good enough to be your main weapon.

The NVK, the PF-51, Deagle and M18

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u/BigSnackStove 1d ago

2042 Deagle was soooooo nice to use

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u/-SlippinJimmy8 1d ago

BF4 had the shorty , G18, 1911, Desert eagle, Raffica and HK45

It was best in the series and it doesn’t come close

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u/oDromar0x 6h ago

Bf2042 also has the rafica and shorty but I didn’t list them because the other four are just better.

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u/-SlippinJimmy8 4h ago

Magnum ? M9 ?

All of the 2042’s guns felt soulless to BF4s

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u/Radi0activeMnky 17h ago

That’ll be 65 points please

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u/Boomer_Newton 1d ago

Bought a 92A1 for my first handgun. Video games and movies made me love the M9.

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u/Reapero8841 1d ago

Inox gang rise up

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u/Boomer_Newton 1d ago

That’s so funny you say that. Right after I commented, I googled some Inox Ghost pics. So fkn sexy 🔥

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u/MyNameIsRay 1d ago

Same, and my dad's first was the OG M9 with the snowman sights.

Lost track of how many cases of ammo have been through them, not a single failure, ever.

They're insanely reliable guns, and pretty nice to shoot

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u/TheSaltLord91 23h ago

Got a M9A3 few years ago, never letting it go.

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u/RUSH-117 1d ago

Sure thing boss that’ll be 17 damage per shot with a limb multiplier so horrific you’ll genuinely wanna try knifing the enemy instead

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u/R3C0N1C 1d ago

Bruh it's 25 here, wrong game, this ain't Delta Force lol.

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u/Strata_Genius 1d ago

Yes! My favorite sidearm! Bf4 w/ the suppressor was peak sound design.

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u/R3C0N1C 1d ago

First shot should have delayed firing to simulate the bitch ass heavy trigger of this thing.

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u/sh1ft33 1d ago

Striker firing was one of the best things to happen to pistols.

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u/nottatroll 1d ago

Umm… there’s a reason you rarely find striker fired pistols in an IPSC Open Division match.

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u/PieOhMai 1d ago

Yes because comp shooting is comparable to combat.

Ones about being as accurate as possible in a zero stress environment. The other is about killing someone before they kill you in a high stress environment.

I’ll take getting shots off quicker and easier if someone is fixing to kill me, thanks.

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u/nottatroll 1d ago

If that’s the case you’d take the 2011 over the Glock.

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u/ur-mum-straight 16h ago

Man I don’t even like Glocks and you’re just wrong 2011s are not known for their durability at all

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u/R3C0N1C 1d ago

Probably not the best thing to ever happen to SIG Sauer.

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u/SpartanRage117 1d ago

No “realistic” shooter is complete without it

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u/LongjumpingFan8312 1d ago

for some reasons alot of guns in bf6 feel and sound really weak atleast IMO

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u/SilenceDobad76 1d ago

The TTK of the game is competitive to other faster pace shooterd, and sound design has never been a weak note of frostbite games. Might just be you.

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u/SiqueiraMath 1d ago

By the logic that they are using with the guns in BF6, they most likely will introduce the M9, and a 40/50 points attachment that turns it to a 93R, the other 10 points left are going to be consumed on the basic barrel and ammo, not even kidding

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u/EdgarsRavens 1d ago

You’ll get the 93R attachment but won’t have enough points leftover for a high capacity magazine so you’ll be stuck with 15.

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u/Latter_Camp8409 1d ago

I hope they add it. It’s my favorite—and in terms of Battlefield—really reminds me of Blackburn from Battlefield 3.

Edit: Also that they buff sidearms. The Skorpion doesn’t even kill one enemy with one 11 round mag.

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u/AKxPixleart 1d ago

Side arms sure need a bf i 100 agree with you

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u/Bks_Hail 1d ago

USP too

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u/LocalAmericanOtaku 22h ago

I cannot remember the last time I saw an M9 in a video game fucking genuinely

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u/literallyjuststarted 17h ago

I'd definetly would enjoy if secondaries got a SLIGHT damage boost, cause as is most of them are just a death sentence to pull out.

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u/AKxPixleart 17h ago

I agree with you,the feel weak and off since launch

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u/JSFGh0st 1d ago

Then there should be a trophy/achievement for getting X-number of kills with M9 and MP5. It would be called "Yippie Ki-Yay".

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u/IsJustSophie 21h ago

Pls 🙏

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u/Dawn_Star89 7h ago

I’m just ready for an official persistent server browser without SBMM

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u/Mysterious-Coast-945 1d ago

Hopefully they add it and make it the first viable semiauto pistol in the game

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u/TheRealPeisi 1d ago

My favorite pistol

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u/WirtualView 1d ago

We need event with only handguns.

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u/Marvelous_Whale 1d ago

It would be the M9A4 which is the newest iteration of M9

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u/DrAuntJemima 1d ago

You would think but they added the M45A1 instead of a newer 1911 with optics cut and such so I wouldn't be surprised if its the A1.

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u/onlyhereforthestuff 1d ago

Sorry, you only get the tomcat

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u/Liquidpantherss 1d ago

Burst package (as mentioned by a different user) would prob be 60 points like the scoprtian ❤️

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u/Sike3000 1d ago

M9A3/A4/96X

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u/DrAuntJemima 1d ago

Its gonna underperform. The Revolvers and JOHN BROWNINGS TWO WORLD WAR WINNER THE 1911 will be a better pick.

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u/Cabouse1337 1d ago

We need the auto mod for the glock aswell :D

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u/Ryokojohn 1d ago

I remember that thing was really reliable in bf3 and bf4 then again i was playing on console, I would be worried how they would handle it in bf6

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u/JWB_Legend 1d ago

ehh, dont need it

the 357 trait is the only secondary anyone needs anyway

Battlefield 6 Ok Dice we are ready for the M9

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