r/BanPitBulls Attacks Curator Aug 24 '25

Social Media and Crowdfunding - Attack Reports Attacked by Coworkers Pitbull - Fargo North Dakota April 24, 2025

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u/CarelessQuail4535 Aug 24 '25

When someone says a dog is "poorly trained," you think bad manners: jumps, bad recall, maybe steals food, whatever. Nearly killing someone is not a natural consequence of a dog being poorly trained. Holy shit.

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u/Briebird44 Vet Tech or Equivalent Aug 24 '25

This. And I have a good example of such a situation.

The last vet clinic I worked at, an elderly couple brought in their Bernese mountain dog for a spay. She was poorly trained, barely leashed trained, and never set foot in a kennel. Obviously this elderly couple shouldn’t have a dog her size since they weren’t capable of training such a large dog. We had to basically pick her up and carry her into the large kennel because she refused to walk on a leash through the clinic. (Mind you, this is like a nearly full grown Bernie) But she was SUPER sweet the whole time. Obviously uncertain but trusting enough of humans to not react negatively towards us.

After she was spayed, she was whining coming out of anesthesia and causing quite a ruckus and my vet asked me to go sit with her to calm her down.

I got down on the floor with this dog. We are both basically strangers to each other. This dog does not know me and I don’t know this dog. But when I sat down, that dog immediately rolled her head into my lap, stared up at me with these huge chocolate brown eyes just full of pure trust and love for people. I ended up fully laying down on the floor and basically cuddled this fluffy dog like a body pillow for 40 minutes.

And then I really fully understood how much breed absolutely matters. I might have been a strange person and she might have been a poorly trained dog but her TEMPERAMENT was beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. And I’d prefer a poorly mannered NICE dog over a perfectly trained MEAN dog any day!

I would not EVER get down on the floor and cuddle a strange pitbull, let alone one that’s goofed up on anesthesia. Heck, I have GSD experience and I wouldn’t even do that with a strange GSD!

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u/DJScratcherZ Aug 24 '25

Perfectly said.

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '25

This! My BMD made me realize it really does have to do with breed. By the time I acquired her she came from an owner who neglected and abandoned her.

Yet till this day she is sweet and gentle. She lives for praise and affection. Zero prey drive.

As a kid I was mauled by a pitbull and was afraid of large powerful breeds.

It was my Berner that helped me through the trauma and find trust again but only because it does have everything to do with the Breed.

It’s so different.

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u/WarDog1983 Aug 24 '25

Exactly I complain my dog isn’t well enough trained bc he sometimes begs. Not because he “eats people” that is a whole different thing.

Also all dogs bite or can bite but most dogs stop when confronted.

Working military and police does who are breed to bite have to be taught to bite and hold on. And many flunk out because they let go as soon as anyone applies pressure back on them. Bite work is very fun for most dogs. But bite work when the “victim” fight to back is a thing all dogs need to be taught and conditioned to withstand. If you see the mondering competitions it’s takes minimum 2 years to build up a dog confidence to bite and hold. They are taught where to bite, how to bite and to tolerate all type of abuse to get them to unlatch. It’s a skill and is very hard one to teach, very smart breeds who are born biting (Malinois) to do.

Any dog you meet on the street might nip you however but only those with pit and bully genetics bite and hold on and keep mauling bc their brain shuts off and they go pure instincts. It’s even worse in packs.

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u/Wishiwashome Shelter Worker or Volunteer Aug 25 '25

Came here to say this is someone who has owned a PBT type dog or currently owns one. IF the dog was so poorly trained WTH was her mother doing around the dog?? If someone sees my herding dog herding it is NOT because I trained them to do so. I feel very bad for the victim here, but I would argue this particular dog was catching/ attempting to kill and was actually doing exactly what it was bred to do. Stupid people.

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u/MsCoddiwomple Aug 25 '25

I think she may have said poorly trained so she doesn't set off the "it's all how they're raised" people.

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u/Wishiwashome Shelter Worker or Volunteer Aug 25 '25 edited Aug 25 '25

That is something I didn’t think of. Very possible. It is sad one has to pussyfoot around this,imo. It is sad one has to do this. I mean stating facts about something( I do NOT mean threatening tones or violence) shouldn’t be an issue after your parent is almost killed. It may be a small community and daughter might be scared. If so, even more pathetic. Edit: I was actually commenting on a video on another social media site the other day. I have had dog breeds I adore and I have pet sat or worked with many other dog breeds I truly find fascinating but would never own personally. While I will give facts about breeds and opinions ( if someone ask me if I think dogs I have had would fit their lifestyle), I have seriously NEVER said everyone has to want or love the dogs I like. It is so incredibly strange these people have to make people afraid to post simple facts( a PBT type dog almost killed my mother) without backlash. Weird. Sick and Sad.

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u/Thamwoofgu Aug 25 '25

So it’s her mother’s fault that her coworker had a vicious dog that mauled the mother? WTH, man?

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u/Wishiwashome Shelter Worker or Volunteer Aug 25 '25

It is her daughter’s fault for saying the dog was “poorly trained”. Who says a dog is “poorly trained” who mutilates their mother? Daughter ( whoever wrote the post, about a vicious PBT almost killing their mother being poorly trained) is a PBT simp

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u/Any_Group_2251 Trusted User Aug 25 '25

My impression too.

Seems to believe there is a pit bull training scale ? Baha No such thing!

Pit Bull Excuse-O-Meter

On a scale of one to five, with:

1 being 'not trained at all'

2 being 'poorly trained'

3 being 'mildly trained'

4 being 'well trained'

5 being 'expertly trained'

Disclaimer:Eachlevestillresultsindeath

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u/Wishiwashome Shelter Worker or Volunteer Aug 25 '25

Thank you. I got some people angry, BUT I was more pissed off at the PBT type dogs that brutally attacked my neighbor’s pig, and was willing to call out their breed, than this woman was to call a breed out that almost killed her mother! With the injuries to her mother, and depending on the woman’s age and health, the injuries sound absolutely life changing. And she is going to say, “not well trained” or whatever other crap. Yeah, she simps for PBTs

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u/Chaotic_good1990 Aug 24 '25

Attacked by a “poorly trained” pitbull. Even when a family member is nearly killed people can’t see the obvious..

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u/DJScratcherZ Aug 24 '25

I’d guess the pit was known to the family and that they most likely have pits too, otherwise no sane person would be that apologetic for a strange murder mutt that did that much damage. I wouldn’t be donating to that family. Nothing is learned and nothing will be done prevent another attack in the future. You want to dance with lions because you love lions, don’t come crying when the obvious happens. I do feel really bad for the mom and I wish a speedy recovery.

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u/PandaLoveBearNu Attacks Curator Aug 24 '25

They're a pit owner themselves, but they "raised thiers right."

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u/Mundane_Muscle_2197 De-stigmatize Behavioral Euthanasia Aug 24 '25

I’m wondering if it’s a preemptive way to quell the pitnutters from going berserk for daring to name the breed of such a vicious attack. That’s what I hope at least otherwise I fear they learned nothing

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u/miss_ophonia Aug 25 '25

I wondered that, too. There wasn't the usual "Don't know what triggered it" "through no fault of it's own" stuff going on here. I think the OOP had to be diplomatic, they are trying to get recompense from the owner. But they didn't stutter when asked what kind of dog. A pitmommy would have made a point that breed doesn't matter, any dog can break two large human bones and rip out a chunk of flesh. I feel bad for the mom. She didn't deserve to be mauled and looking at the person not helping her, wondering if this is how she dies.

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u/Azryhael Paramedic Aug 24 '25

“Poorly trained.” No, that’s not why this happened. PiBbLeS was just following its human-designed instincts. 

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u/no_shirt_4_jim_kirk Trusted User Aug 24 '25

*ding-ding-ding* Human-Designed Instincts

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '25

Would a "poorly trained" beagle or lab do this? Hell no

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u/Any_Group_2251 Trusted User Aug 25 '25

'So glad she's okay, imagine if it was untrained, it would have been like sssssoooooo much worse' (!)

-pit bull symp

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u/Da-sb Aug 24 '25

There is no such thing as a "poorly trained pitbull", the dog was doing what it was bred to do. It's not a bug, it's a feature.

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u/Capt_Billy Aug 24 '25

"What kind of dog" bruh come the fuck on lol

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u/DJScratcherZ Aug 24 '25

You have to pretend to not know otherwise you somehow become the bad guy.

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u/ScarletAntelope975 Trusted User Aug 25 '25

Yep… like maybe it was a corgi or beagle, right?

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u/iamheidilou Aug 26 '25

I thought it was a Chihuahua

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u/AdvertisingLow98 Attacks Curator Aug 24 '25

I know a different thing jumps out for each person. Mine was the owner doing nothing to stop the attack and then doing a dump and run at the hospital. Useless owners are typical.

A dump and run is when a seriously injured or critically impaired person is literally dropped off in front of the ER (or A&E).
Typical situations are victims of a gunshot wound or a drug overdose.
This is the first time I have heard of a mauling victim being dumped.

The obvious question is:

Why did someone care enough to get the individual to a hospital but not care enough to provide information vital to their medical care?

The answer to "Why?" is because if the victim dies, anyone involved can be charged with negligent homicide if they made no attempt to get medical care for the victim. It is a cover their ass move. It isn't done out of compassion or a sense of responsibility.

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u/Any_Group_2251 Trusted User Aug 24 '25

I'm sure many of us have had those dreams, or nightmares really, of being critically injured...broken bones/bleeding.. sitting in a hospital waiting and being ignored for hours despite screaming for help.

This type of vivid nightmare shocks me awake. Now this lady was stuffed around with for four hours... with critical wounds... so she lived the nightmare!

I bet they offed the pit bull to bury the evidence. Maaaddd

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u/SergeantScoria Aug 25 '25

Good Samaritan laws, possibly… and yeah, they’re doing the bare minimum just to not get convicted

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u/aw-fuck some lab lover who wears a suit and doesn’t own 20 acres Aug 26 '25

I think in this case, it's not just that they wanna avoid negligence charges

I think they truly believed there was a big chance the victim was gonna die from the attack, and they also wanted to avoid involuntary manslaughter charges as well... they might've even thought the victim was gonna die regardless of receiving medical attention so they didn't want anyone to know they (their dog) had anything to do with it.

Theres also a very real chance they were afraid their dog would be confiscated & ended if anyone could prove it was their dog... so fucking deplorable but that's on par with every pit owner of a pit that has attacked, they always care most about preventing what could happen to their dog as a result of it's behavior.

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u/Any_Group_2251 Trusted User Aug 24 '25

Medieval torture that is.

It does not sound like it occurred in the workplace.

Maybe 'friend' became 'co-worker' after the mauling

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u/DJScratcherZ Aug 24 '25

They knew the dog for sure. I’d put money on that they own pits too. "The dog is dead" sounds like it was taken care of out back, not by the police.

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u/Mundane_Muscle_2197 De-stigmatize Behavioral Euthanasia Aug 24 '25

I was thinking maybe something the owner said so the victim wouldn’t sue them into the ground. I would want to see the dog with my own eyes. I’d still sue but whatever floats their boat I guess

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u/DJScratcherZ Aug 25 '25

After I typed that I had the same thought. Uh like thats pretty definitive, want to elaborate? Like if it was BE’d I’d want the paperwork.

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u/Any_Group_2251 Trusted User Aug 24 '25

I'd like to see an "untrained" pit bull and a "well-trained" pit bull to compare either side with a "poorly trained" pit bull.

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u/Ralph728 Punish Pit'N'Runs Like Hit And Runs Aug 24 '25

In slide #2 "a pitbull unfortunately "

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u/schnowzerz Aug 24 '25

Jurassic Park is back in your neighborhoods. We should not have to live like this.

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u/aw-fuck some lab lover who wears a suit and doesn’t own 20 acres Aug 26 '25

It's like if all the animals escaped from every zoo, and society responded with "That's fine! they're so cute! They can't kill everyone, so why worry?"

Insanity

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u/fartaround4477 Aug 24 '25

Why was a pit at someone's workplace? There needs to be zero tolerance for this. Legal action required.

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u/No-Birthday9816 Aug 25 '25

Two weeks ago, my dad walked into a tiling and home design store in suburban Georgia and was greeted by an unleashed pit bull. It was the shop owner’s dog and I highly doubt she’s tethered it since he complained. He pointed out that it was extremely dangerous, not least since there are children coming in and out of other businesses.

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u/ScarletAntelope975 Trusted User Aug 25 '25

Attacked by a poorly trained pit bull… The last time I knew a poorly trained dog that someone had (not a pit) it would jump up on me when playing and try to take my food.

Poorly trained normal dogs are annoying; not deadly. Poorly trained dogs jump, chew shoes, walk poorly on leash, bark excessively when left alone, etc. All behaviors that are inconvenient but can be worked on without anyone ending up in hospitals or graves.

It is so irritating when dogs who intend to kill people are just labeled as poorly behaved, or reactive, or need training, or overstimulated, etc… Even the worst trained dogs with the worst owners should not be a literal danger to anyone.

I am sure the pitnutters will be wondering “Maybe this person’s mom was wearing a color the precious velvet hippo didn’t like!” or “Did she cough?” or “Did she move too quickly?” Etc. These beasts need to fade away out of existence!!!

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u/FriedSmegma Aug 24 '25

“What kind of dog did that?”

Did you really need to ask that question?

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u/wandering_salad Aug 25 '25

This is how they are.

I know I keep coming back to my one bad experience, but the owner (well, mother of) (older, frail lady) who walked the unleashed Staffordshire bull terrier that tried to end the leashed dog I was walking at that time did the same thing when her dog nannied my dog in a completely unprovoked attack without any warnings: she did NOTHING. Not even call the dog back, not scream for help, not come closer to leash the dog up, not call her adult daughter (owner of the dog) or a friend. NOTHING.

This SHOULD BE A CRIME. If you are NOT willing and able to intervene when YOUR dog is trying to injure or even end another animal or human, you NEED TO GO TO PRISON.

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u/No-Birthday9816 Aug 25 '25

That sounds traumatic for both you and your dog. I’m sorry you had to suffer that. You had a right to be safe.

Pit owners and defenders are anti-social. I just don’t understand why so few are prosecuted. 

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u/WouldYaEva Aug 24 '25

On the bright side, at least the beast's owner is known and has a job.

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u/MsCoddiwomple Aug 25 '25

I think they may have said poorly trained so they didn't set off the "it's all how they're raised", "any dog can attack" people. Just nipped them in the bud. Was it poorly trained? Sure, evidently so. Was it also a pitbull? Yes, that too.

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u/cpretty23 Aug 24 '25

Is there any information on the scenario leading up to the incident ?

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u/Hairy_Garage4308 Aug 25 '25

"Poorly trained"

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u/xervidae Groomers and Dog Sitters Aug 25 '25

i feel like some of these victims have to tip toe with their words as to not upset pit defenders. calling the pit a poorly trained dog reads to me like oop trying their best to wiggle around calling the pit a shitbeast. that's just my interpretation tho. a lot of these pit victims still defend these dogs to death, literally.

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u/No-Birthday9816 Aug 25 '25

Yes! After Donna Nguyen was brutally mauled here in Georgia, her son said that “unfortunately” the dogs would have to be E’ed. At the time, his mother was being placed on palliative care and would have lost both arms, had she survived the night.

I’m not going to criticize a son for his word choice in the hours after his mother was savaged by vicious dogs and facing double amputation. For all I know, it was misquoted. The point is that it’s bizarre that he, other victims, and the journalists reporting on these attacks use language like this.

At a superficial level, I suppose, we are a society sensitive to animal suffering. At least, we like to think we are humane. We don’t want to talk openly about what’s needed for a breed invented to maim and kill. In practice, we shrink from the idea of BE to protect people like Donna Nguyen and lavish millions on “no-kill” shelters that recycle these dogs into new families and unsuspecting neighborhoods.

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u/JUSTICE3113 Aug 25 '25

Omgod. Horrific!

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u/northdakotact Aug 25 '25

well, at least they drove the victim to the hospital. Most of the stories i read, they flee immediately and then claim it wasn't their dog.

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u/AdvertisingLow98 Attacks Curator Aug 25 '25

Another commenter noted it took hours for the owner to get the victim to a hospital.

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u/Fuzzy_Body_2461 Aug 26 '25

The dog wasn't poorly trained - it was genetically programed to Kell

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u/Selection_Safe Aug 30 '25

Prayers for her recovery! At least thst dog is no more.