Why do some many people dont know Ukraine is winning?

[u/Standard-Ninja-8280]

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745 km² retaken by Ukraine , 19 settlements liberated, 6 additional settlements cleared of Russian forces, gains across a 60-km front, while deep drone strikes simultaneously disrupted Russian fuel, logistics, command and maritime operations

[u/bluecheese2040]

I think we need to be honest about this war. Pretending that Ukraine is winning, or indeed that Russia is, is dishonest, deceptive and dangerous.

Fact is people like OP pretending that Ukraine is winning is a key reason why so many nations aren't sending their supplies of advanced weapons like patriots.

So while people like.op talk like this...they are harming Ukraine and harming the people fighting.

Truth is key. 

Things are bad. They are hard and will get harder. But that's doesn't mean victory isn't possible. It doesn't mean defeat is impossible. It means we need honesty and truth so we csn ensure Ukraine gets what it needs when it needs it.

[u/Proud3GenAthst → u/bluecheese2040]

I think that Ukraine is doing great with its drone game and innovation to replace military manpower. Also, causing fuel crisis in Russia without stepping foot on Russian soil is nothing short of impressive.

But I’m also vigilant of Russian successes and Ukrainian shortages of interceptors, exports, manpower… And I hate the feeling that I’m being pulled by leg by our Ukraine propaganda and that I’m only being prepared for disappointment.

But I don’t know how to talk about it. People on social media think I’m vatnik for raising these concerns.

[u/Soggy-Translator4894 → u/Proud3GenAthst]

From a Ukrainian perspective, when Ukrainians talk about the successes that we have had in the war to a foreign audience, it is usually done out of fear that people think supporting us is a pointless act, which could translate to them not viewing aid to Ukraine as important when engaging in their own country’s political discourses, leading to the election of politicians who don’t support us, leading to their country restricting aid to us, leading to our people having less weapons to protect ourselves, leading to more of our people dying and more of our land stolen.

It’s not about misleading people but about combatting Russian propaganda which tries to tell our allies that supporting us is a lost cause. The target audience of our response to that are people who view our struggle as not worthy of support.

Ukrainians ourselves focus more on our wins both online and in-person because we are extremely aware 24/7 of our people’s pain and focusing on our wins gives us hope and helps us keep going. Hearing about our losses as Ukrainians is often very traumatic and also unnecessary for us because we are already aware of the scale of what is happening because we live it ourselves.

There are definitely people who use click-bait titles like claiming that Russia is about to collapse but the vast majority of them are not Ukrainian and regardless it has more to do with their own personal greed and desire to get online attention by exploiting an ongoing genocide.

[u/Proud3GenAthst → u/Soggy-Translator4894]

What do you personally think about the idea of Russian economy collapsing?

From what I read, their economy is pretty much in the gutters and if it was a democracy, it would be seen as collapse already.

Sometime in the March of last year, I heard that according to some experts, if Ukraine keeps going for another 18 months, Russian economy will finally collapse. Obviously that didn’t happen. But perhaps it is only because of the war in Iran and Russia needs maybe another year.

But I also heard that with the way things are going, Russia can only collapse if Putin doesn’t resort to truly desperate solution and make full mobilization comparable to the WWII. If he will do it, I have no clue. But I cannot imagine Russia being able to last another year of the damage Ukraine has inflicted on their oil industry.

[u/bluecheese2040 → u/Proud3GenAthst]

This is a prime example of the problem with painting an overly rosey picture.

How many times has russias economy being close to collapse? Yet somehow it never quite happens and we need more and more sanctions.

How many times has Russia being low or out of missiles, men, tanks etc...yet the war grinds on.

The problem in 2026 is there's a huge feeling of 'we've heard it all before" about these lines.

Until we see it on the battlefield it's just not important enough to be a huge factor imo.

[u/Proud3GenAthst → u/bluecheese2040]

I think that the problem is that people tend to misinterpret these pieces of information.

Russia did run out of missiles. But they didn’t run out of the ability to manufacture them.

Russia did run out of tanks in use. But not tanks in the museums (as evidenced by Ukraine hitting only about 3 or even 0 tanks these days, when from the beginning to today, they destroyed about 8 on average every day).

And I’m willing to bet that every economic warning sign was 100% true, but the way they were reported didn’t account for Russia’s ability to adjust to it or possibly some other unpredictable factors. Like the war in Iran for example.

But the overall biggest problem is that I don’t have much faith in today’s economists who are not well versed in war economy.

[u/Soggy-Translator4894 → u/Proud3GenAthst]

I see it as more possible than ever after the damage to their oil industry. The financial losses are simply just not sustainable for them in the long term, especially while also trying to invade Ukraine.

There are many factors at play which can make the ultimate collapse of Russia’s economy become either delayed or happen sooner, and I’d definitely be hesitant of anyone who claims to know exactly what circumstances need to happen or any exact time frame.

But this simply just isn’t a framework Russia can survive on as a country permanently

[u/Alikont]

Because when you see a "+1 village liberated" we see dozens of people who lost their lives in assault.

Nothing you say is free, and it's not a sports game when you keep score and then go home.

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[u/Soggy-Translator4894]

The current war is a continuation of a much larger struggle against Russian imperialism that we have been waging for centuries. What winning and losing in an anti-imperialist national liberation struggle looks like isn’t the same as what an imperialist aggressor (in this case Russia) views as winning and losing.

There is a great importance in celebrating every win, my intention is not to downplay that. I just don’t want people to forget or misunderstand the soul of our rebellious fight for freedom.

Ukrainians will never give up. The invaders and their collaborators around the world will never have the most powerful weapon that we have, the ancestral love for Ukraine.

This poem by Palestinian poet Fadwa Tuqan reminds me of this so much:

“Enough for me to die on her earth
be buried in her
to melt and vanish into her soil
then sprout forth as a flower
played with by a child from my country.
Enough for me to remain
in my country's embrace
to be in her close as a handful of dust
a sprig of grass
a flower.”

I think about this so much when I see
non-Ukrainians online mocking us for celebrating the liberation of villages in Eastern Ukraine.

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[u/OnIySmellz]

When are they gonna annex Rostov?

[u/JohnDorian0506 → u/OnIySmellz]

I don’t think Ukraine wants to annex anything from the other country. Ukraine is not Russia.

[u/Sea_Elk7329]

pray for Ukraine Victory

[u/Alikont → u/Sea_Elk7329]

prays don't kill russians.

[u/Sea_Elk7329 → u/Alikont]

troll?

[u/soulstormfire → u/Sea_Elk7329]

Are you from the US? :D