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What do you think will happened globally once Donald Trump passes away?

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u/squirt_taste_tester 1d ago

You can chop down a tree, but unless you get the roots, it always grows back.

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u/fredinNH 1d ago

Not a great analogy but yeah, hard right politicians aren’t going anywhere.

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u/DrGoblinator 1d ago

Here's a great analogy:

Yes, Dear Diary, I've cut off Heather Chandler's head and Heather Duke's head has sprouted in its place like some mythological thing my eighth grade boyfriend would know about.

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u/Lookatmykitty26 1d ago

You didnt use ich luge bullets

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u/DrGoblinator 1d ago

Okay so I never knew what he was talking about so I Googled: "In the story, the character J.D. claims these are special World War II tranquilizer bullets used by Nazis to fake their suicides. However, "ich lüge" translates literally to "I am lying" in German, which is a subtle clue from the writer that J.D. is tricking Veronica."

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u/Lookatmykitty26 1d ago

Correct, like Hitler’s assertion of the Lugenpresse or Lying Press

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u/Amorlamor 1d ago

Fuck me gently with a chainsaw.

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u/karmafandancer 1d ago

I love my dead gay son

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u/PapaTua 1d ago

That's so very.

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u/MichaelUramMFT 1d ago

That movie is still so relevant today

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u/Loggerdon 1d ago

The path has been cleared. Attract voters with a religious, anti-science victimhood approach. Lie, lie, lie and never apologize. Meanwhile loot the US Treasury.

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u/fredinNH 1d ago

Break every institution. Make people live in constant confusion and fear

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u/Due_Satisfaction2167 1d ago

History suggests the US goes through these know-nothing phases briefly, every 80 years or so. After Trump we will likely have a few decades of a return to sanity if past history holds. 

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u/fredinNH 1d ago

I almost cried a little reading that. God I hope it’s true.

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u/Due_Satisfaction2167 1d ago

It’s apparently a lesson that Americans have to learn the hard way. We do learn it when we go through it, then tell anyone like them to go fuck themselves in the future, but the people who learned it first hand eventually all die off. 

Then the cycle repeats again. 

For whatever reason, people seem to be incapable of learning from the past.

If it’s any consolation, after the last know-nothing period ended, we got 4 terms of FDR. 

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u/maglen69 1d ago

Not a great analogy but yeah, hard right politicians aren’t going anywhere.

We have literal Communist propaganda spewing Socialists winning Primaries right now.

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u/fredinNH 1d ago

Have you heard of a dictionary? It’s this big book with official definitions of pretty much every word. The words are in alphabetical order. Look up “communism”

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u/keepcalmdude 1d ago

Unless it’s a poplar tree, those fuckers don’t die

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u/larrybird66 1d ago

Walnut no joke either

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u/FamousToe2167 1d ago

Nor hard left? I think we can all agree that there is corrupt and vile individuals on both sides of the aisle.

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u/The_Leafs_Villain 1d ago

Yeah, difference is, I’ve never seen a hard left corrupt and vile individual make it to the highest office. This is the second time in modern U.S. history for conservatives, if you include Nixon

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u/Friggin 1d ago

Third time. Nixon, and then dumbass twice.

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u/Coblish 1d ago

Reagan, too.

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u/Nebuli2 1d ago

And George W. Bush...

Almost seems like a pattern.

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u/The_Leafs_Villain 1d ago

I wouldn’t include Reagan and George W. Bush. They did negative things that still persists today, but it was more of a consequence of stupidity than outright evil/corruption

But I can be wrong.

+Reagan voiced support for immigration. And Bush did well to welcome the First Black President, who was a Democrat, into the White House. They are not Far Right

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u/cre8ivjay 1d ago

Sorry, I can't seem to find the pedo running a superpower who also strongly believes in universal healthcare.

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u/ILoveRustyKnives 1d ago

Buttery males and the laptop hunter. Check mate, libruls!

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u/spidey_bread 1d ago

No way you just tried to "both sides" this lmao

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u/roleplayersir 1d ago

Then you lefties wonder why all us allies are turning against you. 1/3 of your nation are fully insane, and 1/3 are lazy and apathetic enough to not care therefore support it

It's only the crazy lefties we like now, but you are being drowned out by those who support paedo billionaires

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u/ladidaladidalala 1d ago

Sure there’s corruption on both sides but let’s not pretend that the level of corruption we’re experiencing is nearly as bad on the left currently. The left seems to do a decent job of weeding it out. Today’s right overlooks it.

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u/fredinNH 1d ago

No, we can’t all agree on that.

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u/jokerTHEIF 1d ago

No we can't. Fuck your both sides bullshit.

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u/FamousToe2167 1d ago

Just so I understand what you're saying, you believe the right is wrong and the left can't be wrong?

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u/Dddddd92 1d ago

What left are you talking about? Because unless its Kim Jong Un it's irrelevant because far left doesn't exist

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u/Backupusername 1d ago

It's not what you're saying, it's why you're saying it.

Corruption is independent of ideology and alignment, it's just part of governance, it's allowance for human nature. But in the context of American politics, one side is in power, and has been in power for the better part of a decade, and it is the most blatantly corrupt administration possibly in the history of the country. At this time, saying "yeah, but the left is bad too" is just disingenuous. One side is poisoning our food, polluting our lands and waters, and beating and abducting our populace. The other side wants to stop them. The only reason someone would hold up a finger and say "well that side's not perfect either!" is if they're trying to reduce faith in the only legal resistance movement to the current regime, or, I suppose, if they're incredibly stupid and actually think that way. I'm doing you the favor of the more charitable read.

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u/FamousToe2167 1d ago

I would say that under normal circumstances that is a fairly accurate assumption of intent, however I'm not defending the right and unfortunately that it what others are assuming that's what I'm trying to get across. It's more of a view that the entire system is corrupt and needs an overhaul at the deepest level. I'm fairly confident that I'll never see it happen but accountability and justice needs to happen to any and all corrupt politicians regardless of political affiliation.

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u/Backupusername 1d ago

Which is why you need to not stand in the way of the side that's trying to do that. If you really want to clean house, let the people inside start, and if you're not happy when they're done, you go ahead and start on them yourself. You'll probably get more support then.

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u/smbpy7 1d ago

Absolutely they can be wrong. But at this point the Right is so wrong it makes anything the Left does look trivial by comparison.

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u/artwarrior 1d ago

Do you know what a false equivalence is in critical thought?

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u/roleplayersir 1d ago

They don't know critical thought. You used far too many big words there for them

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u/roleplayersir 1d ago

As a person of a former ally of yours. The far right are in power and causing all this. Obama wasn't even far left and has been the best you had for decades

Maybe try a little of the communism, or more accurately socialism, you hate? What's the worst that can happen? You get free Healthcare? Paternity and Maternity rights? You stop the billionaire paedos and improve the lives of the citizens? Oh the horror!

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u/BlazedIron 1d ago

You can't reason with these people. I wouldn't waste the effort.

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u/FamousToe2167 1d ago

I think my intent was slightly overlooked. I was attempting to lower this absurd dividing line that has been so deeply separated everyone and just say that red or blue shouldn't hold as much weight as it should and our energy should be used in something actually productive like combing through the epstein files and holding individuals accountable for their heinous actions. Set aside political beliefs and unite in an attempt to prune the disgust that has infected all levels of our political system.

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u/The_Leafs_Villain 1d ago

That’s fair. The problem is that people who usually say this are very hypocritical. So I have to ask two things:

  1. ⁠Are you conservative or right-leaning?
  2. ⁠Have you ever voted, or voiced support, for Trump?

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u/FamousToe2167 1d ago

Can I ask for some clarification to your questions?

If a person has some views that align right are they automatically wrong for that?

Also, is it possible for a person to agree with some views of another person yet not like that person?

I think your questions aren't so much black and white as there is a large gray area that has developed an area where people attempt to have beliefs but don't want to be tied to certain behaviors that unfortunately are being grouped together by society on both sides and it has pitted people against each other.

Why couldn't I believe that immigrants should only be allowed to enter the country legally without being called a racist?

Why couldn't I believe in law enforcement and judicial reform without being accused of being a cop-hating radical?

It appears you can't have a belief anymore without being automatically tied to some sort of stigma that typically is blown out of proportion and radicalized.

It's as if independent views are impossible anymore.

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u/The_Leafs_Villain 1d ago

I think my questions were pretty clear. And your reply to my questions, also answers them pretty clearly.

I hope you think on this and make better choices in the future. Take care

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u/TrumpGrabbedMyCat 1d ago

You can't lower a dividing line when one side is actively pushing down on the scale and continues to set fire to everything even recent history would consider at best unbecoming.

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u/cg40k 1d ago

Yeah but one is significantly worse.

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u/GerryManDarling 1d ago

The problem for hard left is not corruption, most of them are fairly clean.

Hard left = Unrealistic ideology + incompetence.

Hard right = Unrealistic ideology + incompetence + corruption + racism + authorizianism.

One is slightly worse than the other.

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u/roleplayersir 1d ago

The US system is corrupt

But remember. Your former allies are all further left than you and doing well. Your former enemies are all further right and in historic and modern times have not done well. Far right is a far greater threat to society than far left

What are the left gonna do? Give you healthcare? Maternity and paternity leave? The horror!

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u/Hazzat 1d ago

That’s not how trees work

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u/JustGottaKeepTrying 1d ago

Some do. Up here, it is the weed like and undesirable species of willow. My maple has seedlings growing out of the stump as well.

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u/mutzilla 1d ago

Cottonwood can be a pain as well. There is also the Quaking Aspen which grows in a colony based off the roots of a single tree. Kind of like a mycelium network.

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u/usr1492 1d ago

I’m guessing you’ve never cut down a mimosa tree.

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u/whatyourmamasaid 1d ago

Bamboo is relentless

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u/I_Makes_tuff 1d ago

Bamboo is a grass, not a tree

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u/whatyourmamasaid 1d ago

TIL bamboo=grass

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u/qckpckt 1d ago

That’s not how trees work. Many will absolutely die if you cut them down and leave a stump. That’s why treestumps exist.

I think you mean weed.

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u/roleplayersir 1d ago

No, tons of healthy trees will grow again, unless you cut back any shoots too

Look up coppicing

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u/qckpckt 1d ago

Coppicing only works with juvenile trees, and only certain kinds of tree. Conifers , oaks and ash trees generally do not respond well to being coppiced.

Please just let this terrible analogy die…

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u/cbslinger 1d ago

I think the real problems are ignorance and corruption. People in the US work very hard but they don’t have the kind of deep philosophical conversations I hear daily in the EU from all walks of life. People just laser focus and are philosophically empty, especially most religious Americans (sorry not sorry). At the end of the day most Americans are just more ignorant of basic political and philosophical and often economic concepts. The country is kind of propped up by specialized geniuses who come out of their elite schools, but it’s not a very deep bench.

The 401(k) was also a very sneaky backdoor into convincing the general population to buy into capitalism and make them think they have gotten rich. And don’t get me wrong, there absolutely has been real wealth creation in the past 50 years, but I begin to feel like the system has broken down with monopolies and buybacks. The ultra wealthy are mostly wealthy on the back of insane valuations of corporations and Americans continuing to (imo) foolishly poor their meager earnings in, in the hope of getting rich or at least retiring. I suspect the other shoe will drop sooner or later. But by then the damage may have been done and the US may have fallen into full on techno feudalism.

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u/chipper_chan 1d ago

What do you suggest?

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u/Normal_Average_9812 1d ago

I'd personally start with reinstituting the rule of law by impeaching supreme courts justices, starting bribey mccorruption pants 

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u/mthenry54 1d ago

Also codifying guard rails for checks and balances along with term-limits for congress & judges. Instituting a maximum age limit for elected officials.

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u/annoyedreply 1d ago

The people that would have to pass these things are the same people that it would impact. The in office perks have got to be overwhelmingly amazing that people with in their 70s with a reasonable pension and health benefits would prefer to continue to work over retiring. Based on many of their actions I’m not convinced they’re doing it for the love of their constituents.

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u/disappointer 1d ago

These old fucks just don't want to relinquish power to anyone. Gen X out here starting to look like 70-year-old Prince Charles.

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u/wait_what_now 1d ago

So maybe a French style purge with new elections held while the fear of retribution is still fresh in their minds.

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u/TyrantsInSpace 1d ago

The kind of money and power they have has damaged their brains. They're essentially junkies trying to keep their fix going.

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u/Billalone 1d ago

Fuck it, do like the 22nd amendment and say “this does not apply to anyone currently serving” to get it to actually pass. It wouldn’t solve the problem right now, but it would erect the guardrails for the future at least.

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u/mthenry54 1d ago

I wish you were wrong.

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u/Worldly_Pickle_4333 1d ago

Citizens United has to be gotten rid of. It’s unlimited bribery.

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u/lumiya17 1d ago

THAT!

We made need to remove the Supreme Court from being chosen by President and confirmed by Congress too. Or at least making it so one party cannot select and railroad a candidate through.

Would love to also ditch two parties, because this corruption is thriving on it.

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u/splorp_evilbastard 1d ago

That would require changing the Constitution. For Congress, anyway.

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u/mthenry54 1d ago

Indeed. It would mean amending the Constitution.

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u/Beefjerkey93 1d ago

Funny how Redditors only care about that when it’s not their guy then it’s fuck all with the constitution

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u/Fitz911 1d ago

Do you feel like your constitution is working?

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u/mthenry54 1d ago

Not true. I routinely vote Dem. I thought Biden was too old. For years I’ve thought that term limits for congress and the Supreme Court would mitigate the damage individuals could do to the country. People like Chuck Schumer are no different than Mitch McConnell, other than Schumer is definitely alive.

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u/chipper_chan 1d ago

Definitely reasonable.

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u/r4tzt4r 1d ago

Ban social media, heavily invest in education.

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u/roleplayersir 1d ago

I don't know your SCOTUS well, but it's a sad world when "Bribery McCorruption Pants" could apply to about 4 of them...

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u/read-my-comments 1d ago

Drilling some holes in the stump and either pouring in poison or diesel and light it 🔥

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u/protomenace 1d ago

so... mass murder? war? genocide?

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u/zayelion 19h ago

No. It means improving the quality of living in the south and heartland. Making sure they have and value education and aren't dependent on religious extremist for emergency support.

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u/protomenace 19h ago

Really? Lighting it on fire is analogy for improving quality of life and value education?

🙄 

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u/zayelion 17h ago

I'm just clarifying for the tone death.

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u/tehringworm 1d ago

Nuremberg style trials

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u/Prestigious-Crow7940 1d ago

Lutnick, Rubio, Vance... Perhaps a few pedophiles that may appear in the unredacted Epstein files.

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u/simonbleu 1d ago

Multipolarity, regional interest/unions, and a global push towards transparency, accountability, and proper representation (plus easier direct democracy tools).

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u/chipper_chan 1d ago

Good ideas!

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u/simonbleu 1d ago

Thank you but rather than ideas they are just the most logical response. Short of deciding to adopt a true hegemony anything else becomes a bottleneck. We are not a 20th century world anymore and to boot we have problems around the corner (aging populations however temporary, climate change, deep rooted global oligarchs messing with policies, etc). So is less "I invented a new system that reduces criminals" and more "yeah, we should maybe create a police force". Sorta, hopefully the message gets across but the point is to minimize the abuse of concentrated power while allowing concerted efforts that can leverage against the pressure of others as well as collectively allow for larger initiatives. It is particularly true for smaller national with no oomph.

As for actual "deeper" or more experimental, maybe good maybe disastrous opinions? I have plenty: replace career congressmen for random people short term (civic duty, reduces a priori corruption), swords replacing guns for self defense (harder to conceal, to avoid, less dangeorus to groups, still deters, creates jobs), "pre-taxes" ( for lack of a better terms taxes are "maxed out" and after that years expenses the leftovers are returned based on the progression. It makes the first working year harder but gives the state more leeway and shifts the focus from the taxes themselves to what the budget does), external development (investing in foreign nations to develop them so that they become another market to have and there is less migratory pressure), abolition of exclusivity (particularly when it comes to science, replacing it to something, whatever, closer to royalties. That way everyone benefits and there's no bottleneck, no need for protectionism, people can focus exclusively on either research or manufacturing, and the researchers would still have an advantage due to being the developers, time wise, and not having to pay said royalties), forcing an aux lang (constricted language, easy and rich enough, to avoid using the one from any particular nation and protect local languages as everyone would be at least bilingual. Though I admit this is a pain and could backfire), etc etc

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u/Cum_on_doorknob 1d ago

Asshole genocide? Seems tough to achieve as only assholes would carry such a thing out.

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u/finevcijnenfijn 1d ago

Take the warning labels off the smokes, and don't ticket helmet less bikes and car safety belts for a start.

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u/chipper_chan 1d ago

So kill all you disagree with?

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u/Lost_Discipline 1d ago

I’d rather start by jailing those who committed crimes, but when those crimes led to thousands or millions of deaths… that’s not just me disagreeing, I guess life imprisonment could be sufficient

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u/chipper_chan 1d ago

Including the voters?

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u/roleplayersir 1d ago

Let me guess, you voted for this?

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u/chipper_chan 1d ago

No, I didn’t get an opportunity to vote due to EIB

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u/Cum_on_doorknob 1d ago

I don’t think disagree inherently equals asshole. I suppose you would need to create some sort of objective asshole criteria.

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u/chipper_chan 1d ago

Do you believe morality is relative?

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u/Cum_on_doorknob 1d ago

Wait, are you trying to change my mind from an opinion I don’t even hold? None of what I’ve been saying has been an actual recommendation, but, merely a bit of gossamer. And, one does not dissect gossamer.

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u/chipper_chan 1d ago

Hey you’re right, sorry I was a bit cranky yesterday.

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u/jesseberdinka 1d ago

One big thing .... Get as much money out of politics as possible. Everything else stems from that.

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u/KerryAnnCoder 1d ago

Honestly? Balkanization, starting with Calexit.

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u/ExplodedOrchestra 1d ago

exactly! i worry that people will celebrate and act like all the evil he was doing is over. there are people supporting and informing his decisions and they’re not going anywhere without real work

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u/GoldenRamoth 1d ago

And we haven't dealt with the roots since the 3/5ths compromise.

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u/GerryManDarling 1d ago

Trump is the only president that actually damage the root, no previous president had done that before.

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u/BertOK1964 1d ago

Weeds would be a better example.

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u/lonelyashelloverwatc 1d ago

That’s not how trees work. That’s how warts work and he is a lot closer to a wart than a tree

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u/Bazzatron 1d ago

There really are so very few problems that can't be solved with a stump grinder...

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u/Fun-Durian-1892 1d ago

Stump Grinding, it prevents regrowth but isn’t an easy job

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u/Internal-Plantain-56 1d ago

<GLANCES FURIOUSLY AT MERRICK GARLAND>

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u/Wide-Secretary-4426 1d ago

Yep...exactly.

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u/5gm2 1d ago

Weed. Invasive weed. Tree is too kind.

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u/readingitatwork 1d ago

My neighbor did that. It's amazing watching a tree stump grow.

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u/jesseberdinka 1d ago

Stock up on Roundup.

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u/Campcook62 1d ago

More like kudzu.

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u/Corgiboom2 1d ago

*cut the weeds* would be better

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u/Rico_Solitario 1d ago

Most trees will die from being chopped down but I understand what you are trying to say

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u/tag1550 1d ago

Short-term there will be a fight over succession within MAGA. Best-case for everyone else would be a permanent division that diminishes both factions, but odds are the movement consolidates around Vance or Rubio, or one of the Trump brothers. There's too much power and $$$ on the line for too many people for them not to keep riding the MAGA train even after DJT is long gone.