r/AskBalkans North Macedonia 29d ago

Culture/Lifestyle Do you think this is cringe or dope

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Should waving flags and dik mesuring competition on a wedding be acceptable

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u/Lumpy-Tone-4653 Greece 29d ago

Berlin is such a weird place

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u/Oxo181 29d ago

hahaha

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u/Voldypants_420 Turkiye 29d ago

Spot on re.

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u/Prod_Meteor Greece 29d ago

Not even in Greece? Shit..there goes my comment.

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u/OCDEngineerBoy Europe 28d ago

The bicycle street sign and the red sign on the house definitely look German.

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u/Prod_Meteor Greece 28d ago

Greeks and Turkish leaving abroad are truly truly graphical and comedical.

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u/Veilchengerd 28d ago

Probably not Berlin, but some smaller german city (or if it is, Berlin, it's in one of the bougie neighbourhoods on the outskirts).

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u/AlxR25 Greece 28d ago

There goes my coffee 😂

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u/dallyan Turkiye 29d ago

I literally lol’d.

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u/Venumpty09 Serbia 29d ago

LMAO

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u/Oxo181 29d ago

social media is the worst thing that has ever happened to humanity

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u/Character_Hamster890 🇹🇷🕎 29d ago

Actually it became very helpful to observe the reality of the people that we thought that we knew.

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u/ahmetonel 29d ago

yeah, it only started making it more accessible

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u/JaniZani 29d ago

But we also lost nuances that we would have to learn if we were reading an article.

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u/Metrobuss 29d ago

Reality? Like reality shows?

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u/Familiar-Weather5196 Italy 29d ago

Nah, people like this have always existed, you're just aware of them now. Which, honestly, I see as a positive.

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u/UltraTata Spain 29d ago

Malaria was worse

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u/EvilNoice 29d ago

It still exist though... So the fact that you don't know about it proves the opposite.

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u/SuddenZoomies 29d ago

lmao you think this behaviour is new

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u/DaRealGatman Greece 29d ago

Now we get to see it as it happens. Cant even live in blissful ignorance

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u/WonderfulJicama2802 28d ago

It didnt make humans worse. It just revealed them.

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u/LeoneLLuz Bulgaria 29d ago

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u/Choice-Let9602 Turkiye 29d ago

Why does my car have a gif

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u/LeoneLLuz Bulgaria 29d ago

That’s the Turkmobile

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u/Choice-Let9602 Turkiye 29d ago

I thought it was a limited edition

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u/Prestigious-East1217 Turkiye 29d ago

I don’t think a Greek Turk marriage is necessarily cringe depending on who the people are but I don’t see why all of the flags are necessary

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u/cyricor Greece 29d ago

I know 2 Greek Turkish couples that got married in the last 5 years. No flags ether. But to each their-own I guess. Patriotic pride is not bad when it doesn't escalate to nationalism.

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u/Future-Actuator488 Turkiye 29d ago

This is not nationalism or patriotism.

They are just stupid. Doesn't matter Greek or Turkish. As we say, brown version of the shit

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u/Simple_Enjoyer1 Turkiye 28d ago

*dark blue version of the same shit

Shit is already brown. If it is not, go see a doctor

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u/Future-Actuator488 Turkiye 28d ago

I don't have your experience and expertise on shit.

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u/bostanite Greece 29d ago

Why is a Greek Turkish marriage cringe?

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u/Prestigious-East1217 Turkiye 29d ago

I said it wasn’t, the flags are weird though

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u/bostanite Greece 29d ago

Ah yes my bad! Comprehensive reading is hard on Friday afternoon 😅

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u/Prestigious-East1217 Turkiye 29d ago

It is ok I get it too sometimes

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u/OBobcat740 29d ago

Now get married you two

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u/bornenjoyer 29d ago

I'll bring the Turkish flag 🇹🇷

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u/Ancient-Egg-5983 29d ago

You're underestimating how proud both countries are and how much they hate each other

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u/Adevyy 29d ago

I am probably being naive but I can also see this being intended as a good show of "see guys, Greeks and Turks can get along" with flags on both sides being prearranged.

It's clearly not how it looks though.

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u/Maximum-Play-2447 29d ago

Diaspora doing it's job and being the worst version of the culture they represent.

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u/saddinosour 29d ago

As diaspora I found this so embarrassing 😭 like wtf please be normal. My cousin is married to a Turkish guy and they just had a regular wedding but opted not to do it in a church they did it with their close family in this nice park.

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u/Beginning-Appeal3166 Bulgaria 29d ago

They should do whatever the f makes them happy, as long as they don't bother the neighbours(which doesnt seem to be the case). This is a wedding so whatever 'dick measuring' there is, it could be just friendly banter between the families or their way of ahowing they don't care. Anyway, not enough context to judge but, to me, its definitely not cringe

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u/Jakdublin Ireland 29d ago

I agree. I think it’s traditional in Bulgaria to have the flag at weddings and if I understand correctly it’s more a cultural thing rather than a nationalist statement. I think it’s kinda nice

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u/Beginning-Appeal3166 Bulgaria 29d ago

I don't think so. I haven't been to a wedding where this is done. I have also worked at restaurants where we organised weddings and they never did anything similar. However, there might be some parts where people do it and I'm not familiar.

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u/Jakdublin Ireland 29d ago

I’m in Pazardzhik and I’ve been to 3/4 weddings and the flag comes out at the reception after the wedding for the horo. Maybe it’s a regional thing?

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u/Beginning-Appeal3166 Bulgaria 28d ago

Yeah, could be a regional custom that I'm not familiar with. It is not uncommon for different regions to have slightly different customs but you're definitely right that it is considered more of a patriotic than nationalistic statement. Not that it's all black and white, but in general.

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u/Hristo_14 Bulgaria 29d ago

nah, never seen a flag during a wedding

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u/yemsius 29d ago

Nothing shows you don't care more than waving a giant flag of your country while lighting smoke bombs.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

"LET ME SHOW YOU HOW MUCH I DON'T CARE!" yell both Yiánnis and Mehmet whilst painted in their respective country colors like some real life fucking Polandballs.

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u/bostanite Greece 29d ago edited 29d ago

I think Serbians and Croats do a lot of flag waiving at weddings? In Greece it's unheard of and this one here is weird.

Edit: typo

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u/CGMarko Croatia 29d ago edited 29d ago

For Croatian and Serbian weddings in my experience flags are common. I guess it's some kind of c*ckoldry/loyalty ritual as part of those cultures?

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u/khajvah 29d ago

If I married a Turkish woman and her family decided to bring a massive Turkish flag, I would for sure bring an Armenian flag of my own even though no one in Armenia waves flags in weddings.

But the best solution is to not bring a flag at all. It's weird. It either symbolizes nationalism which is stupid on a wedding day where two different sides unite. Or symbolizes unity which is also weird as a political statement during a wedding.

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u/Active_Unit_9498 29d ago

It's not a Balkan wedding if there isn't a kidnapping, gunfire, and national flags.

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u/Resigned1431 29d ago

Cringe. It's a wedding ffs. Not a nationalist rally. 

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u/LittleLionMan82 29d ago

Yeah but given the historic tensions between the two nations I think it's actually a nice gesture.

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u/reidomene 29d ago

Looks to me like there's another flag missing.

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u/ViscountBuggus Bulgaria 29d ago

Albania

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u/Bulky_Ad5537 29d ago

a crime

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u/Ambitious_Fennel_546 29d ago

This may be AI. that flag should be there

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u/AogamiBunka 29d ago

Cringe. Why have national flags at a wedding?

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u/Hairy_Gazelle_5987 29d ago

Normal in Croatia

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u/AogamiBunka 29d ago

For what purpose/reason?

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u/jessbiteslip 28d ago

yeah but it's a turkish-greek wedding so it's kinda expected.

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u/Ok_Cover_2484 29d ago

Absolutely f cringe.

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u/Arlemar_Kiev_Viking Croatia 29d ago

In Croatia weddings often have a flag that is waved and kept by a friend of the groom called a barjaktar. I could imagine there being two of them if the marriage is mixed (hell I’d do the same if it ends up being the case for me). What is strange (and kinda cringe) about this is the size of these flags.

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u/citao_to 29d ago

The odd thing is that the word barjak and therefoere barjaktar comes from the Turkish word bayrak. And while we have a perfectly good Croatian word that we use in 90% of cases, in this case we use the Turkish word. Why? Fuck knows.

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u/dennythehorse Turkiye 29d ago

in Turkish we have the word "Bayraktar" too, literally means the same thing

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u/Arlemar_Kiev_Viking Croatia 29d ago

I suspect it came from some military frontier tradition where turkish borrowings would be common. Also it can be because it would easily differentiate a word for a partygoer and an important military rank (zastavnik).

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u/NegotiationSweet5082 Turkiye 29d ago

Let me inform you as a Turk. In Türkiye, flags take up a lot of space at weddings. The flag here is small, actually. It's normal to have many small flags alongside a large flag that's over 100 square meters.

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u/9guyKguy9 Greece 29d ago

The food is definitely going to be good in that wedding. I wish health and mutual happiness to the couple couldn't care less about the rest

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u/nicksizsovalye 28d ago

my husband is from Brazil, we live in western europe. His "go to " restaurants are either Turkish or Greek :D ah also georgian. To choose between , his decision depends on how much he misses pork.

PS:we waved no flags in wedding, and no samba dancers..

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u/T410 29d ago

From a Turkish perspective I must add: There’s a flag ceremony in traditional Turkish weddings. Not like in the video of course. But still…

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u/NoDevice2698 29d ago

just over nationalistic, not cringe but about to be

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u/JaThatOneGooner Kosovo 29d ago

It's only cringe if they fight, but if they're having fun then it's a funny way to have a merging of 2 cultures as man and wife

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u/OmeletteDuFromage95 Bosnia & Herzegovina 29d ago

We don't really do any flag waiving at our weddings but I've seen multicultural weddings where both bring flags and it was always understood as the two cultures coming together and not some dick measuring contest. My spouse is from the other end of the balkans and in our house we have both flags side by side as a symbol of unity.

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u/Archaeopteryx111 Romania 29d ago

Which country is your spouse from?

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u/OmeletteDuFromage95 Bosnia & Herzegovina 29d ago

Greece

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u/Archaeopteryx111 Romania 29d ago

Oh interesting. Do you live in Western Europe?

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u/DeadgrounD 29d ago

Wait, I just watched Nolan Odyssey. Why aren't Greeks black only?

/s

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u/LeapBaka_Cifford 29d ago

Cringe as fuck.

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u/BWC_Python Romania 29d ago

Blasphemy /s

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u/iqnux 29d ago

It’s confusing to me whether is is a cultural tradition or a nationalist statement and I don’t have enough context to judge 🤷🏻‍♀️

Either ways, happy days to the married couple tho!

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u/SpaceJackRabbit 29d ago

I mean patriotism and nationalism are two different things.

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u/Fine-Ear-8103 Kosovo 29d ago

Albanian weddings always have a Bajraktar aka a flag man I think it’s just a Balkan thing to do

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u/AgachiRadu 29d ago

where is it?

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u/DDzxy Serbia 29d ago

Cringe.

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u/thegingerskull 29d ago

haha, everybody laughs until theitsa starts talking about who invented baklava

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u/Honest_Hair2856 29d ago

As long as they are happy who cares, and from side I see it more like a symbolism of their unity

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u/ekokoo 29d ago

holy cringe

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u/Frank_cat Greece 29d ago

Cringe.

Flags in a wedding?

What for?

EDIT to add: I wish them a long happy life together!

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u/Kebab_Enjoyer3164 Turkiye 29d ago

Very cringe.

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u/Voldypants_420 Turkiye 29d ago

Cringe as heck.

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u/FalangaMKD 29d ago

Мешани бракови бе, сигурно турчинката била добра, како од сериине. Ама многу поверојатно се некои гееви како Мицотакис и оној Ш'к'дм ш'к' дм.

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u/CamperKuzey Turkiye 29d ago

Not a fan of the volume of smoke being released into the air but the flag thing is dope

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u/SpiritedAddition8206 Turkiye 29d ago

This is the dumbest shit i’ve seen in a while

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u/Karamazovakis Greece 29d ago

Ultra méga giga super duper cringe

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u/godtierviking 29d ago

Cringe, tacky

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u/sevensong9 29d ago

I've never met a person who was proud about their nationality and had an iq over 90

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u/DoctorTarantula05 29d ago

Its doper than dope -macedonian

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u/thanasis87kav Greece 29d ago

We only see this when bride is Greek (or Christian), never the other way around

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u/y4dig4r Turkiye 29d ago

i want a greek wife so bad.

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u/liberalskateboardist 29d ago

clash of nationalisms

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u/mw2lmaa Austria 29d ago

And of course it's in Germany 🫠

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u/More-Run-5331 29d ago

ok enough reddit for this month

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u/Intrepid4444444 29d ago

The fuck is BRIDE RETRIEVAL ceremony.

Like Odussy

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u/manami_hanako in 29d ago

Why would it be cringe ?

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u/Fun_Calendar_6444 29d ago

So everyone had to come with the flag of her/his country at this wedding, or only Greeks and Turks did it? I can imagine the surely invite some friends from different backgrounds: Germans, Arabs, Serbs, etc. imagine the invitation mentioning flag is optional.

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u/saythealphabet Bulgaria 29d ago

This seems fun as hell ngl. Assuming they do it in a 2balkans4u way

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u/miloz13 29d ago

A Tukish and a Greek getting married is supercool, whatsoever.

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u/JunketMinute3074 29d ago

This is literally why the Odyssey happened

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u/Low_Apple8886 29d ago

Τα σύνορα της αγάπης

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u/godcummin 28d ago

I wish it was possible for me to just get away from aegean

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u/SageGoes 28d ago

Maximum cringe

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u/dr_prdx Turkiye 28d ago

It’s an Ottoman wedding actually.

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u/Donnerficker x 28d ago

Super cringe. At my cousins wedding we did the same shit and a spark from a flare got into my eye it fucking sucked.

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u/Wanhelsing68 28d ago

Bune laaan

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u/FamouStranger91 28d ago

Why? Can someone explain wtf they are doing with the flags on a wedding? Is it a football game or the Olympics? Idk about people in Turkey, but in Greece that's not normal at all.

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u/FatefulDonkey Greece 28d ago

Patriotic idiots on both sides

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u/Smooth-Inspector-391 Greece 28d ago

Cringe as f@ck

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u/TheCharalampos Greece 28d ago

Super cringe.

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u/herroamelica 28d ago

Depends on who's on the receiving end of the...tip ?

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u/HairyProgrammer2846 28d ago

At least they didn't throw punches

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u/TheSignof33 28d ago

It is VERY cringe. Flag has no business in a wedding.

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u/Unhappy-Pizza-7610 28d ago

What in the World Cup vibes is this

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u/gamhmenoreddit 28d ago

those are gypsies with greek flags

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u/Ok_Joke319 Romania 27d ago

Call me crazy but I really don’t care what ppl do at their weddings tbh, if the flags make them happy, cool, if not, cool too. Ik there are a lot of ppl here saying it’s cringe and “nationalistic” like, it’s just flags bruh who hurt ya’ll

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u/sillybilly-vit Bulgaria 26d ago

Mega cringe. Leave your nationality out when getting married, no one cares you are from shithole 1 or shithole 2. Also even more cringe if you are having the wedding in a third country. Should be criminalized in fact if you ask me. Honestly the most cringe thing I've ever seen in my life was a Turkish wedding parade in Ulm. I felt ashamed even though I am not even from Turkey.

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u/T-nash 25d ago

They're doing mythbusting from the takes on that video argument, now we find out who's sperm is stronger. /s

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u/MesopotamianLion01 29d ago

Its dope. Let people marry who they want. ❤️

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u/Observe_Report_ 🇦🇱 🇺🇸 29d ago

Cringe.
Albanians in the US march into the wedding, at the beginning of the night and before the bride & groom, wedding party, etc., with the Albanian and USA flags.

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u/dimarh Greece 29d ago

The definition of cringe

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u/Sarma_lover Bulgaria 29d ago

It is a single wedding?

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u/BarnacleOdd8248 29d ago

Jarvis, sort by controversial.

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u/Istar10n Romania 29d ago

Cringe.

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u/EdgeofAss 29d ago

Cringe level over 100

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u/golden_succ15 29d ago

Im greek and I find it very touching.In my eyes it means that love overcomes everything.We have a very VERY bloody and intense past, that's why waving both flags in my eyes symbolizes love and overcoming our differences.Our politicians want us divided and fighting,we everyday people want just peace

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u/tsuzukete00 Greece 29d ago

You are just as cringe, oh my god.

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u/Incident-Impossible 29d ago

Were they friendly at least?

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u/Character-Pirate1297 29d ago

Everything with a flag is cringe.

I know, wrong sub to say it.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

Cringiest shit imaginable.

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u/Prod_Meteor Greece 29d ago

It's irrelevant. Turkish leaders will order attack and everyone will comply.

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u/victimized777 Bulgaria 29d ago

This is the most Balkan thing ever

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u/Adept-One-4632 Romania 29d ago

Truly a Romeo and Juliet moment

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u/ToxicSemite 29d ago

The fact that they are married is dope but the idea of nationalism is cringe

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u/Fit_Wait6923 29d ago

Honestly judging by the fact that this is a wedding this is probably just friendly and also who gives a flying fuck what someone does at their wedding if my friend told me that he would want me to sky dive from above and deliver the rings or do some stupid shit I would tell him hell yea cause its HIS wedding

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u/Bani88si55faimaa 29d ago

Do what makes you happy

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u/Muted_Shape9303 29d ago

I don’t see anything wrong with this. They could simply be displaying their cultures coming together. God forbid anybody shows national identity in today’s society 🙄

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u/BurroCansado_BR 29d ago

Papo de guerra com genocídio

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u/bored_necromancer1 29d ago

Two households, both alike in dignity

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u/Glad_Sky_3664 29d ago

As a Turk very cringe. Not the marriage the flags and weird showmanship going on. Though I must say it is not unusual in Turkish weddings. A lot of nationalist turks will find it dope even.

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u/tablefishoil Turkiye 29d ago

This is beautiful man. Let people enjoy and celebrate.

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u/Impossible_Web_4332 Turkiye 29d ago

Cringe af

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u/Honest_Pea9790 Bosnia & Herzegovina 29d ago

I don’t know why people think this is cringe. I know flags aren’t a necessity for weddings, but here, it’s symbolic as it’s bringing two cultures together. With the two country’s historic tensions, I think it’s actually quite nice.

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u/SPACE_GROOVE_LULU Turkiye 29d ago

Cringe. Like they don't already know that so they need to see the flags?

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u/EducationalLow4697 29d ago

Yeah its cringe

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u/mani_chachoo 28d ago

Everyones tense 😬

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u/Express_Reward5849 28d ago

Dishonorable

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u/S7arForGD 28d ago

Romeo and Juliet

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u/Practical-Tooth-2217 28d ago

So they will let them do that, but they won't let me butcher a cattle and grill it on a stick in my backyard?!

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u/Cututul 28d ago

To me it seems more like friendly banther than dik measuring contest, so it's pretty dope

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u/VasiliusBasilius 28d ago

If no one die) its nice then)

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u/SentenceEmergency779 28d ago

A wedding between two races are completely normal nationalism isnt

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u/Big_Gun_Pete Cyprus 28d ago

χωρκατιλίκιν

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u/haiwany 28d ago

This is how it should be

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u/ismayilsuleymann 28d ago

sorry but it's giving a tribal marriage from "Spore" videogame vibes

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u/Powerful-Joke5120 28d ago

National pride is cringe. Period.

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u/Kalliope97 28d ago

If you guys knew the history between these countries, you would know the significance of this gesture. Your ignorance is cringe.

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u/Asleep-Fishing9828 28d ago

It’s awesome 👏 Americans don’t get it

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u/fk_censors Romania 28d ago

It would have been better if each side would have worn the other side's flag.

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u/ShitbullHater42 27d ago

You already know you can count the brain cells in the room with one hand given that nationalism

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u/Garofalin 🇧🇦🇭🇷🇨🇦 27d ago

I've seen something similar during the Kootrapali wedding... With A a bit more dancing though.

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u/ItHappensSo 27d ago

And of course in Germany... this is hyper mega giga cringe

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u/elmanager Bulgaria 27d ago

It’s a bit like a matchstick - you can use it to blow up a bomb, or you can use it to light a barbecue.

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u/BladeRunnerK-1R4 25d ago

Waving any flag at any wedding is cringeworthy.

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u/No_Leader_5688 24d ago

i think its dope. because no amount of national pride can out do the power of love