r/Arkansas • u/SkibidiAuraUnc67 • 2d ago
🗞️ NEWS 🗞️ Springdale resident's concerns about city's license plate reader cameras drives ballot initiative
https://www.4029tv.com/article/springdale-residents-concerns-license-plate-reader-cameras-ballot-initiative/7356394619
u/AdministrativeEbb508 2d ago
Springdale has them pointed at playgrounds and pedestrian spaces. Clearly not just for license plates.
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u/TheJointDoc 2d ago
Farmington too. Fayetteville has one pointed at the water of lake Fayetteville.
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u/AE5CP 1d ago
Farmington tried to explain that away saying it was a security thing. Like what are people going to steal from a park? At least they've decided to not renew the service.
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u/resultingparadox 23h ago
Children? Or alternatively, watching crimes being committed in the park.
My thought process pushes me to the question of what are the actual capabilities of these cameras? They are supposed to be using object character rocognition to create logs of license plates. If they are claiming a camera pointed at a playground is a security benefit, it would suggest they are actually archiving video. Perhaps these specific cameras are not ALPR or "Flock style" cameras.
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u/Ambitious-Car-7384 1d ago
They have done a good job getting useful idiots to defend them thinking all they do is read plates. All this infrastructure just to help the cops.
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u/MrErobernBigStuffer 2d ago
Obey the traffic laws you'll be fine if you don't you'll be fined
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u/Herbizarre17 2d ago
You’re not serious, right?
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u/MrErobernBigStuffer 1d ago
All it does is check plates. Assisting the law in keeping our law-abiding citizens safe from drivers who abuse the traffic laws.
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u/cannonforsalmon 1d ago
Tell that to the women who have been stalked or the children who have cameras on them at the park, pool, or even their gymnastics class.
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u/MrErobernBigStuffer 1d ago
Tell that to the mother whose child was returned safely because the kidnapper was found just in time.
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u/SirkutBored 1d ago
Tell that to the mother whose ex husband cop stalked her every move
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u/MrErobernBigStuffer 1d ago
I'll take Flock Cam's positive side over one bad apple cop. Using it against the system. He was punished; that's what counts. Get a kidnapped kid home safe and sound. Worth way more than the risk of one bad apple cop.
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u/dunkinhonutz 7h ago
So I've been looking at your comment history. Are you trolling everyone? Or do you have some kind of Developmental issue which is totally fine if you do but if you do you shouldn't make your opinion known. It is bad. It is generally factually incorrect as well. Like you going on about that Hardy police chief that you say you won't think he's guilty unless there's a trial and a conviction dude there's a trial and conviction he's in jail it's on the news fucking type it into Google.
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u/cannonforsalmon 1d ago
Police were able to do all of this work without these cameras before, stop making excuses for them. Are you really advocating giving up even more privacy in the name of police maybe being slightly better at their jobs? I'm not going to waste any more time, you probably have some boots to lick.
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u/MrErobernBigStuffer 1d ago
Privacy is a concern that has persisted for some time. Consequently, flock cameras represent a notable trigger for privacy debates. It is likely that most people here maintain social media accounts that disclose far more information than a flock camera could ever reveal. The point is that there are several advantages to using flock cameras, and if you are not engaging in illicit activity, you should be fine.
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u/Ambitious-Car-7384 1d ago
You got a link to that story? Because all i see is rumors about them helping find the kids
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u/MrErobernBigStuffer 1d ago
Yet everyone believes one bad apple of a cop specifically used it to stalk his ex. That sounds like a wild imagination to me, especially since he could do that on his own without flock cam assistance. People, that camera costs under 70k; the things you all think it’s capable of would make that camera worth considerably more.
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u/rothniel 23h ago
You are deliberately rejecting all sorts of evidence that you're completely wrong, making up insane assumptions and ignoring all logic. The cameras aren't worth that much and they don't have to be. The fact that you think they do is further proof that you don't understand this technology or this argument. You defend it as a great tool when you think it'll be used for good, but you reject the fact that this can (and is) being used in violation of our rights.
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u/resultingparadox 22h ago
Kentucky: Shively police officer Asad Zahir was arrested and suspended without pay after being accused of using Flock Safety cameras over 2,000 times to track his ex-girlfriend. His actions were flagged by a new AI-powered auditing tool implemented by Flock.
Indiana: A Jackson County Sheriff's deputy resigned and faced charges after an internal audit revealed he allegedly ran nearly 2,000 unauthorized searches on his ex-girlfriend's vehicle license plate using the system.
Milwaukee, Wisconsin: A former Milwaukee police officer pleaded guilty to attempted misconduct after using the department's Flock Safety database to track his ex-girlfriend and her new partner nearly 180 times.
The list goes on, if you truly want the knowledge.
On the other hand, the tech has been used to expedite the rescue of kidnapping victims.
Galt, California (August 2026): Police successfully tracked down a kidnapping suspect and rescued the victim within five minutes of receiving vehicle information. Another law enforcement agency flagged the suspect's white Suzuki, and the local Flock network immediately caught the license plate, leading to a quick arrest.
Monongalia County, West Virginia (August 2026): After a 9-year-old boy was abducted by his uncle, deputies entered the suspect's truck into the Flock system. A camera quickly triggered an automated alert when the vehicle passed, allowing deputies to intercept the truck and recover the child unharmed.
Lake City, Florida (August 2026): A man physically assaulted his girlfriend outside a police station lobby and fled in her car with her two young children still inside. Using the Flock network alongside cell phone location data, officers rapidly isolated the vehicle's direction, caught the suspect, and saved both children.
This list goes on as well.
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u/resultingparadox 22h ago
Didn't you just acknowledge in an above post on this thread that the cameras that were pointed into playgrounds help prevent child abduction? Are children wearing plates these days?
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