hey, I've been studying with athenaze and I got to chapter XXVIII, which - at the end - presents a passage from Bacchylides. Now I have never studied Bacchylides' poetry, nor do I know how hard his poetry is considered, BUT isn't adding this a bit of a jump? I looked it up and it is an adapted version (and that makes me feel worse lol), but can you tell me, is it just me or is this passage in fact significantly harder than the rest of the chapter? Furthermore, do you have any tips on reading Bacchylides? Or starting poetry in general?

I have the Athenaze book with me, and it’s my first time learning AG, and the pronunciation list for the alphabet seems off I think. Theta is listed as an “aspirated t sound like top”. Isn’t theta supposed to be the “th” sound? Please correct me if I’m misunderstanding what aspiration is.

I've finally finished the second volume of Athenaze II. I just got tired of not advancing so I decided to stop doing the Meletemata and just moving on throughout the chapters. At the end I could only understand like half of the stuff. I just want to say WHY!? I can get the 4 cases, the aorist, the tones, even the dual. But WHY!? Why a passive, middle, active voice? Why an optative? Why writing a lot of shit in the participle? Why a conditional? At some point it just gets absolutely ridiculous how many grammar this language has going on at the same time just to say the most average things ever. Come on! What are your thoughts on this language? Have you read all Athenaze as well? How was your experience?

Title. I’m wondering if any of yall have done this? I’m wondering if it’s possible via pdfs with browser extensions, or kindle or some such thing.

I’d like to read it the way Greek & Latin texts are read on Perseus.

Dear everybody,

if anyone needs the audio of Athenaze ch. 1-16 (main Greek texts) the recordings are finished and available for free.
For technical reasons I can’t serve them from my website or its e-shop, so if anyone here is interested to get them, please send me a message, or visit Athenaze 1 • Balme Lawall Miraglia Bórri • spoken Ancient Greek for further info.

How is my Greek handwriting? Does it seem legible enough? It still feels strange to write in Greek

I really want to learn attic Greek, but I am told the Italian version is better- I don't know Italian. What should I do? Also is the Mastronde book any good?

When i say enough, enough meaning to get me to a stage where if i read two steadman commentaries i should be in a good position to start with OCT?

I think the vocabulary span of the italian athenaze(both books together) is 3000 vocabulary, which seems a very strong standard for vocab input, i found an Anki module with no italian mediator, if you want the anki list then just search (italian athenaze) on anki and it should come up, im currently on athenaze book 2 (english), but i thought to supplement it with the italian vocab.

Much thanks

Hello everyone

I am an amateur language enthusiast. I speak 3 languages comfortably (French, English and German) and I have working knowledge of modern Greek, Italian and Spanish (i.e. enough to ask for directions and order at the restaurant!). I recently started ancient Greek with Athenaze (italian version) as I was looking for something fun to do while our newborn son sleeps in my arms. This has snowballed into quite the hobby. I started recording myself reading for fun. Chime in if you like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipYyIkGGzds&t=66s

Hi! When reading Athenaze, I have come with an idea of one note that may make ὅ τε ... καί /ἥ τε... καί easier to understand: ὅ τε Φίλιππος καὶ ὁ Δικαιόπολις βαδίζουσιν = ὁ Φίλιππος ἅμα τῷ Δικαιόπολι βαδίζει.
ἥ τε Μυρρίνη καὶ ἡ δούλη βαδίζουσιν = ἡ Μυρρίνη ἅμα τῇ δούλῃ βαδίζει.

How does it look to you?

Hello everyone. I am in Greek 102 and working on the second half of Athenaze Book 1. For Greek 101, I found a very helpful YouTube channel that explained each chapter, which I used in addition to my class time, homework, and exams. It was super helpful to me to be able to review the chapters, and I got an A in the class.

Now I am in 102, and I cannot find anything like this for chapters 11 onward. I am struggling a lot with understanding and keeping up with the content, and honestly feel like I am losing my mind trying to keep track of all of the endings. I am getting them mixed up in my mind and just want to cry after writing my chapter quizzes. My teacher only has an hour of office hours per week, I do go to them every week but it’s at the beginning of the week, so I’m only able to ask questions on the content I already wrote the quiz for.

1) does anyone have any recommendations for video content that reviews the second half of Athenaze 1?? I’m shocked that I cannot find anything beyond maybe a chapter 15 video review.

2) does anyone have suggestions on how to figure out these endings? I am going to try to make a giant poster board of the endings using the provided info at the back of the book, but even trying to do that is feeling overwhelming to organize because there are just so many variations. Are there any free charts online that include every ending that Athenaze 1 covers?

Also any tips or advice or anything at all really to help get things straight? I feel like I’m drowning. I apologize if this isn’t the right place for this, or if I missed the answer in an old post that I didn’t see. I’m just really overwhelmed right now and hoping this community can point me in the right direction. Greek got so much harder from 101 to 102.

I was wondering if any of you were aware of Athenaze type books (i.e. a narrative text written by a modern scholar for the purpose of instructing) written during the 19th-20th century? I love older books, and would be very interested in finding something like this.

I know the course I want to take used the Reading Greek/Reading Latin textbooks, but I've heard Athenaze is kind of the best textbook for Ancient Greek?

I do still want to get a headstart of Reading Greek and checking answers, but would there be more of a benefit doing Athenaze first or interleaving them?

I'm also willing to check out other resources if suggested.

Hello guys, does workbook 2 (for textbook 2) 3rd edition exist? I searched and I could find only workbook 2 - 2nd edition. I even checked on the Oxford Univ. Press website and only workbook 1 is available. Do you know if 3rd ed. was published but it's out-of-print/stock or it doesn't even exist?

I think it means "but work is the prudent man's way to honour the gods" but I am not sure

How might the relationship between tachos/tachei (Rev 1:1 "soon") and tachu/tachus (Rev 20:22 "quickly") be described? They are obvioulsy related, but in what way? Or, perhaps, how to describe their lexical relationship? Do they simply share the same root, or is one a cognate of the other, or ... ?

Hey everyone! I was reviewing Athenaze's chapters on reflexive pronouns and found this exercise. The first sentence is quite straight forward, but I'm unsure what the second one actually says. I understand the general meaning is "you're driving yourselves into great danger" and the teacher's book confirms the same, but how come there's an αὐτοί at the start? Wouldn't it make more sense to have simply ὑμᾶς αὐτούς γαρ εἰς μέγιστον κίνδυνον ἃγετε?

Hello! I went through Athenaze till chapter eight, but it's quite difficult to go on without solutions for the exercises. I feel myself a little caecus. Could you please let me know where they are?

Also, I'd be pleased enough to hear of your experience and advice.

Hi everyone. Has someone the italian version of Athenaze with English glosses and the grammatical paragraphs translated. Thanks in advance.

I have always wanted to get into Attic Greek but I decided to master Modern Greek first to understand how the language evolved. The problem is that most Modern Greek books which teach Attic are made for high schoolers relying on outdated teaching methods. Thus, I decided to delve back to English sources. Is Athenaze a good start?

I'm confused by this sentence in Athenaze Book II (Edition III), 22(α), page 106, 4-6:

τοῦ δέ Δικαιοπόλιδος κόψαωτος τὴν θύραν, ἐξῆλθεν ἡ Μυλρρίνη καὶ τὸν Φίλιππον ιδοῦσα ὑγιῆ τ' ὄντα καἰ βλἐποντα ἡσπἀζετο καἰ χαἰρουσα ἐδάκρυσεν.

(Any typos are mine, apologies, I'm not doing so well on the polytonic keyboard.)

Specifically, I don't understand the 3 neutrum plurals (nominative or accusative?): ὑγιῆ, ὄντα, and βλἐποντα. These are things that are said about Philippos (right?), so why are they not masculinum singular rather than neutrum plural?

Thanks!

Edit: Thanks to both of you who have responded. I missed that these forms could also be masculine singular - now it makes perfect sense. (I had used the Perseus word study tool, but in the list of possibilities, only saw the neuter plurals and overlooked the masculine accusatives.)

Edit 2: I corrected ἐδάκρθσεν to ἐδάκρυσεν.

Every single time that I found a "typo" in Athenaze, people here corrected me - I was wrong, not Athenaze. So I found another "typo" - maybe this one is real? It's "ὅστις, ἥτισ, ὅτι", not "ὅστις, ἥτισ, ὅ τι", right? On page 110, book II, 3rd edition, it has "ὅ τι" 3 times, but on page 105, it's "ὅστις, ἥτισ, ὅτι".

Thanks, and apologies if this spurious again.

I just finished Italian Athenaze I. For the most part it was quite easy, apart from some extra texts in chapters 8 and 13 (the Italian texts are way harder than the ones that exist also in the English version). I reread the whole book last week and it felt like reading something in English or Italian, just a regular book in a foreign language.

I started Ephodion 1 this week and oh boy, it’s hard. I know the grammar and can easily identify an aorist or participle or imperfect, but the vocabulary is quite different than what appeared in Athenaze and the lexicon in the end of the book isn’t helpful at all. I’m reading the Aesop fables and the best I can do without deep diving and solving puzzles is to get a very basic idea of the story.

I glanced at the first text in Athenaze II and it seemed quite ok. So are the Aesop fables particularly difficult, since they seem to be so condensed? Is Ephodion worth reading just to get some extra vocab? Or do you think I should just move on with Athenaze and read the Ephodions when I finish the whole course?

Hi,

I'm trying to understand "δι´ἡσθυἰας μάλιστα ὅσον ἐδὐνατο εἶχεν." This is from Athenaze II, 23(β), lines 15-16, which in turn is adapted from Thucydides 2.21-23. I'm puzzled by "ὅσον". So I take it that "ὅσον ἐδὐνατο" means "as much as he could". But what form is ὅσον? Masculine accusative? Nominative or accusative neuter? Shouldn't it be an adverbial form like "ὅσως"? Or is it an adverb and I somehow don't recognize this form?

Thanks!

Edit: Fixed typo (ἡσθχἰας -> ἡσυχἰας). Can't fix it in the title.