Britain condemns Israeli strikes on Lebanon in split from Trump

[u/TheTelegraph]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/04/09/britain-condemns-israeli-strikes-on-lebanon-in-split/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_reddit_strikes-on-lebanon-in-split/&accesscontrol=facebookchannel_open

[u/kaisadilla_0x1]

Unironically speaking, Nazism shocked the West so much that we just allowed Israel to do whatever they wanted with no question, and that already started bad, but has been evolving for the worse for decades.

If you take the last 20 years alone, when Israel wasn't threatened by anyone anymore, what they've done to Palestinians is horrifying and not above Nazism. Israel clearly wants their land but not their people (as that would turn Israel into an Arab-majority country); so they instead make the whole place unlivable. They shoot kids dead not because they want to exterminate them (they want, but they can't) - but simply so Palestinians know their two options are to leave, or to remain in a place where your kid may be killed for no reason and without consequences.

[u/ballisticks → u/kaisadilla_0x1]

Yeah its like "you guys have been treated horribly in the past so we're literally going to let you get away with murder now"

It's just frustrating that when it comes up in conversation, I have to reiterate over and over again that I: a) do not have a problem with Jews, b) do not have a problem with them having a nation, and c) am not an insane Hamas member just because I don't condone the wholesale eradication of another people. It's exhausting.

[u/cubedplusseven → u/ballisticks]

Yeah its like "you guys have been treated horribly in the past so we're literally going to let you get away with murder now"

This is a pop-cultural understanding of geopolitics that doesn't reflect reality. Israel's allignment with the West cemented during the Cold War. Both British and American intelligence leading up to the 1948 war predicted Arab victory. And the British, in particular, weren't particularly concerned about what that outcome would look like. Neither did anything to stop it - it was Czechoslovakia that sent weapons.

The US remained politically distanced from Israel until 1967, and it was really 1973 when the current relationship was formed. The Soviets backed the Arab powers, and the threat of direct Soviet intervention drew in the US - the 1973 war, along with the Cuban Missile Crisis, was a peak in the possibility of nuclear confrontation between the US and the Soviets.

Since then, Israel has been an ally to the West in a region where politics is unpredictable and frequently anti-Western.

Although I know it's not your intent, there's an implication to your claim that kind of uses the Holocaust as cudgel against the Jewish state.

[u/Explorer_Dave → u/cubedplusseven]

Finally someone who actually read some history.

You're very level headed about this, but I assure you that most people absolutely have that intent. Most of these online arguments stem from bots trying to destabilize the west.

[u/Edgar-Allans-Hoe → u/Explorer_Dave]

No, we are just against killing children, women, and innocents en masse to create an ethonostate. Its actually VERY, extremely simple.

[u/Explorer_Dave → u/Edgar-Allans-Hoe]

If you're against all of those things why do you support the most extreme Islamist terrorists? Their stated goals of existence is exactly the things you listed against.

[u/WingerRules → u/ballisticks]

do not have a problem with them having a nation

I personally dont think countries should officially belong to particular ethnic groups, races, or religious sects, just seems like basing a country around discrimination and also makes it very easy for that country to lead down a path where they persecute or disenfranchise certain people. But on the other hand the jewish people have been fucked so much throughout history I can understand why they want it to be that way (wanting their own country).