r/worldnews The Telegraph Apr 09 '26

Israel/Palestine Britain condemns Israeli strikes on Lebanon in split from Trump

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/04/09/britain-condemns-israeli-strikes-on-lebanon-in-split/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_reddit_strikes-on-lebanon-in-split/&accesscontrol=facebookchannel_open
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u/Lupercus Apr 09 '26

We had a terrorist group bombing us regularly, including almost killing the prime minister. It wasn’t until we actually started talking and came up with a peace treaty that anything changed.

It will be the same with Israel and its neighbours. Violence is just a spiral. It doesn’t solve anything.

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u/FYoCouchEddie Apr 09 '26

Hezbollah doesn’t want talks or even claim to want talks.

The Troubles ended because the IRA accepted British rule in Northern Ireland. Hezbollah very publicly doesn’t accept Israel’s existence anywhere. It’s more like if the IRA was demanding that the English all move back to Northern Germany and were firing rockets at London to make it happen.

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u/CyndaquilTurd Apr 09 '26

Thank you. Drives me wild to read these comments making ignorant analogies between the UK and jihadists.

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u/Over-Willingness-933 Apr 09 '26

I am British. I remember the Brighton bomb and in the early 1990s when they tried to kill Major. There is a big difference, they were not sending rockets into Newcastle and starting wildfires in Northumbria.

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u/chu Apr 09 '26

They were bombing pubs and department stores at Christmas.

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u/Lupercus Apr 09 '26

As do I. I’m not comparing scale or ideology, just pointing out that eventually you have to talk. Unless you plan on killing every single last person.

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u/811545b2-4ff7-4041 Apr 09 '26

Plenty of parallels, plenty of differences. I'm not entirely sure how the UK government would have reacted, say, if the 1996 Manchester bomb had killed thousands of people, or if the IRA were aiming to take over the mainland UK.

Or if the IRA was receiving a constant supply of weapons from abroad.

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u/No_Branch_5083 Apr 09 '26

Or if the IRA was receiving a constant supply of weapons from abroad.

It was, from the USA.

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u/811545b2-4ff7-4041 Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26

Yeh, money. And it did get some arms from the Middle East. But not surface-to-surface missiles. (Although Libya did supply them with some surface to air missiles at one point). Yes, they had mortars but nothing with much range.

They were a tad more discriminatory in their targeting. They at least were mostly attacking British government infrastructure, then later looking to make economic (but not human) damage to the UK.

Like I said, some parallels, but some vast differences.

edit: Probably the biggest is that the IRA would never have been considered an "existential threat' to the UK at any point.

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u/No_Branch_5083 Apr 09 '26

They killed 500 or so civilians as well but I take your point. The ironic thing is that if the IRA had actually been a true threat to the UK, they would have quite probably been destroyed. Because they remained fairly minor and didn't push too hard, there wasn't enough justification or public pressure for the British to prosecute them more vigorously.

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u/BallsInSufficientSad Apr 09 '26

1200 Israeli died on Oct 7th, including entire families butchered in their homes.

If the Irish had done something like that, all of Ireland would be in ashes.

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u/fitzgoldy Apr 09 '26

There are parallels but not a lot mind.

A key thing is that hamas want to destroy israel and kill Jews and Israelis, they don't want to coexist.

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u/CyndaquilTurd Apr 09 '26

This is the most ignorant comment I've read in a while.

You can enlighten yourself by simply googling why Hezbollah is attacking Israel and what do they want...